Playing video games isn't the problem, both my daughters love video games. What they can't relate to is LDS men who don't pay tithing or think there's nothing wrong with gambling. LDS men who don't have a problem with stealing small things or who don't honor the sabbath day, who think nothing of going to sporting events or boating on a Sunday.iWriteStuff wrote: ↑October 16th, 2017, 1:05 pmI agree that we need a balanced approach. That was kind of my final point there. We can say there's not enough good men in the church because some would rather play video games and hang out with their buddies, and we can say that there are some women who won't go out with anyone less than apostolic. I'm guessing both are correct. I was mostly responding to AI2.0's comments, which seemed to bend slightly more in the "It's the guys' fault" direction.WhereCanITurn4Peace wrote: ↑October 16th, 2017, 12:00 pmHow about the "Blame the women" attitude that is frequently expressed by certain posters? Seems pretty hypocritical to see men complaining about Conference talks in which are made sweeping generalizations about Mormon women being perfect and then turning around to bang on that same discordant key with their own oft repeated and tiresome comments about LDS women as gold-digging harlots.iWriteStuff wrote: ↑October 16th, 2017, 10:59 am Usually I agree with your posts, but I rather take exception to the "Blame the man" attitude here.
I totally agree that "it takes both sides" and "blame and keeping score keep us apart". I see nothing good in pitting men against women (and vice versa) and wish there were less of these kind of threads and more uplifting discussions about relationships, marriages, serving one another, etc.
I think it safe to say both men and women are fallen individuals and have much need of repentance and humility.
Do you think that's looking for an 'Apostle?" I don't, I think that's what you should look for because people always get worse after you marry them.
Better that they have higher standards to begin with so that when they start to slide, it isn't as far. While to some, these may seem like over-zealousness, some of us LDS do actually have these standards. Some were raised with standards of what constituted living the gospel and wish to continue to have those in the homes that they set up. This isn't a matter of 'it's the guys' fault'...there are women who also don't have the same level of standards and LDS men shouldn't have to lower their standards to find a righteous woman. THAT goes both ways for certain.
What I don't like is the apparent resentment that some men on this forum have for women in general and LDS women in particular. It's appalling at times the vitriol spewed against LDS women in general.