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John Podesta of the Hillary Clinton campaign is the father of Megan, who is the wife of lead FBI investigator in the Mandalay Bay shooting, Aaron Rouse.

Should we now find it obvious why the Las Vegas shooting investigation is so messed up even though Mandalay Bay has thousands of security cameras?



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Elizabeth wrote: October 9th, 2017, 11:06 pm https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... s-shooting

"The Las Vegas gunman opened fire on a security guard six minutes before he rained down bullets on a crowd and killed 58 people, officials said on Monday in a change to the timeline of the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.
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A View To A Kill
By Bernard Grover
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Of late, there’s been a lot of slavering nincompoops in the US media, and even a few much higher functioning folks, who keep repeating the line, “Las Vegas is the worst mass shooting in US history.”

Apparently, these folks don’t read history.

First of all, those US Democrat “leaders” and “authorities” who are whining endlessly about gun violence would, in the exact same breath, defend the “right” to abortion with equal vehemence and passion.

Abortion has killed between half a million and a million and a half humans every year in the US since 1973 (Roe v. Wade decision). Abortion is licensed, sanctioned and protected by the US government, and in some cases, it even pays for the slaughter.

OK, so some readers’ eyes glaze over when the topic of abortion comes up, so how about the US Civil War – the one whose monuments the Left are trying to destroy? Abraham Lincoln is directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of 640,000 men, not to mention the horrors inflicted on women and children by Union forces, a true count of which will likely never be known but through family diaries and stories.

The number of slave ships operated under the US flag? It’s hard to find an actual number of US-registered slave ships, but it is safe to say a couple of dozen, and how many of those government-sanctioned and licensed ships were directly or indirectly responsible for how many deaths? We’ll never know, because slaves were livestock and accurate numbers weren’t kept.

How about the Native Americans? I disagree with the term “Native American” on several accounts, but that’s a different argument. Most folks know to whom I am referring, but for clarity’s sake, this refers to the dozens of original nations that existed in North America before the British – and later the American – invasion.

At the Sand Creek Massacre in December of 1864, US “soldiers” slaughtered several hundred Cheyenne and Arapaho who were peacefully camped near Sand Creek in Colorado. The majority of the dead and wounded were women and children, and the “soldiers” mutilated some of the bodies and placed various body parts in their hat bands as a sign of “bravery”. This incident was planned and sanctioned by the US government.

In December of 1890, as many as 300 Lakota Sioux were slaughtered by US “soldiers” on the banks of the Wounded Knee Creek for no particular reason. Again, many of the dead were women and children, and the “soldiers” gleefully scalped and mutilated the bodies (a practice common to US troops).

The atrocities committed by the US government are numerous and egregious. Sand Creek and Wounded Knee Creek are just two of the more famous incidents. Slavery is well-know to most folks, though few acknowledge that it was sanctioned and controlled by the US government (see Dred Scott decision). The Civil War is always justified in a dozen different ways, but if you read the true history of it, you realize that the US government was the aggressor and that its agents committed horrific atrocities in the South. And regardless of how you justify it, abortion is the killing of a human being, and it is a recognized “right” defended by the US government.

All of this is to say that when the US government and its paid mouthpieces tell us that the Las Vegas massacre is the worst mass killing in US history, we should immediately think of the word, “LIE“.

Furthermore, when that same US government is responsible for investigating the massacre, we should be highly suspicious of the findings. And when folks say that the US government is good and would never do anything that wasn’t in the best interests of the American people, folks should back away slowly, realizing they are staring in the face of terrible Evil.

We should have an equal reaction to any “information” put out by the US government and its minions. Who did the Las Vegas shooting and why; where the shooter(s) was(were); any photos, leaks, notes, audio/video recordings, etc.; these should all be viewed with the highest suspicion.

If one thinks that the US government would never plan and execute such a thing on its own people in order to further an agenda, I invite the gentle reader to scroll back up and reread just the highlights of what the US government has already done. I won’t even begin to reprise the atrocities it has committed in foreign lands (Korea and Vietnam come to mind, not to mention Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan).

Just for good measure, however, I invite the gentle reader to view the declassified documents detailing Operation Northwoods. If that’s not enough, perhaps a review of the Kent State Massacre will help drive home the point.

In any highly publicized and politicized event, such as the Las Vegas massacre, the gentle reader would do well to take every word from the “authorities” with a large dose of salts. Not only is the US government willing and able to PLAN such an event, it has a long history of EXECUTING such things, as well.

The aware reader must be very wary of anything the US government and its minions (including the Geezer Media) tell us about this incident. It is far easier to believe that a murderous organization with a long history of atrocities pulled this off, than a millionaire accountant with no history of violence or gun training and an arsenal of illegal military-style guns in a luxury hotel suite – and barely a history at all, for that matter.

This is not conspiracy theory, this is common sense.

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JK4Woods wrote: October 4th, 2017, 5:52 pm I suggest everyone who doesn't know what they are talking about from extensive personal experience to refrain from positing rumor, conjecture, and outright speculation.
And then you did what you asked others not to do, lol.

Also, is your buddy trained in echolocation? Seeing the videos right below your post, and others, seems not...

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Elizabeth wrote: October 10th, 2017, 9:35 pm The security guard got shot six minutes before the mass shooting and didn't call the police after a crazy person fires 200 rounds of automatic fire at him?!!!

Shouldn't he limp down the hall, get in the stairwell and call 911 immediately?

Why didn't anyone in the surrounding rooms call 911 and report the 200 rounds of automatic weapons fire ?
Elizabeth wrote: October 9th, 2017, 11:06 pm https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... s-shooting


"The Las Vegas gunman opened fire on a security guard six minutes before he rained down bullets on a crowd and killed 58 people, officials said on Monday in a change to the timeline of the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

At t 10 p.m. there might not have been anyone in their hotel rooms. They would be at the shows, in the casino, out eating, at the C&W concert, etc. Also, there is a mass exodus from Las Vegas to Los Angeles every Sunday morning. Their biggest audience is people coming from Los Angeles for the weekend. Unless Monday is a holiday they all leave at the same time on Sunday creating a horrid massive traffic jam. I know, I have got near it on my travels from other locations.

I did see one report of someone in a room on a different floor who was on the phone with 911 about the shooting.

How many people do you think called 911? 100, or 1000? If so the last 990 or so would get nothing but a busy signal and the lines would be tied up with those who had no good information.

If the security guard was shot, he may have been unable to call, or move. Did he have his phone with him? A radio? I don't know.
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According to reports, the security guard Jesus Campos came to investigate an open door near Paddock’s suite, and heard drilling from Paddock’s room. Paddock, who had installed three cameras to monitor the approach to his suite, opened fire through the door, spraying 200 shots down the hall and wounding the guard, who alerted other security officials. Clark County Assistant Sheriff Tom Roberts stated that Campos possibly used a hallway phone to contact hotel security. “He manually called down and he used his radio to call.”

Campos was sufficiently mobile when the swat team arrived in that he assisted them and did not seek treatment until after the crisis and the presumed shooter in the room was found deceased.

Campos was struck in the leg as the gunman, from behind his door, shot into the hallway on the 32nd floor. Paddock shot the guard at 9.59pm local time, six minutes before beginning his deadly assault on the Route 91 Harvest festival in an attack that began at 10.05pm and lasted 10 minutes.

10:05 First shots fired. 10:15 last shots are fired. 11:20 officers blew open door and entered the room. It took them an hour and 15 minutes after the shooting started, and an hour and five minutes after it stopped, to go into the room. Why wasn't the door blown open and entry done by the SWAT team with protective equipment ASAP?

David13 wrote: October 11th, 2017, 2:58 pm
If the security guard was shot, he may have been unable to call, or move. Did he have his phone with him? A radio? I don't know.
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Joe Lombardo reports that the examination of Paddock’s brain has revealed ‘no abnormalities’.

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Elizabeth wrote: October 11th, 2017, 3:20 pm According to reports, the security guard Jesus Campos came to investigate an open door near Paddock’s suite, and heard drilling from Paddock’s room. Paddock, who had installed three cameras to monitor the approach to his suite, opened fire through the door, spraying 200 shots down the hall and wounding the guard, who alerted other security officials. Clark County Assistant Sheriff Tom Roberts stated that Campos possibly used a hallway phone to contact hotel security. “He manually called down and he used his radio to call.”

Campos was sufficiently mobile when the swat team arrived in that he assisted them and did not seek treatment until after the crisis and the presumed shooter in the room was found deceased.

Campos was struck in the leg as the gunman, from behind his door, shot into the hallway on the 32nd floor. Paddock shot the guard at 9.59pm local time, six minutes before beginning his deadly assault on the Route 91 Harvest festival in an attack that began at 10.05pm and lasted 10 minutes.

10:05 First shots fired. 10:15 last shots are fired. 11:20 officers blew open door and entered the room. It took them an hour and 15 minutes after the shooting started, and an hour and five minutes after it stopped, to go into the room. Why wasn't the door blown open and entry done by the SWAT team with protective equipment ASAP?

David13 wrote: October 11th, 2017, 2:58 pm
If the security guard was shot, he may have been unable to call, or move. Did he have his phone with him? A radio? I don't know.
dc

Well, they may have been waiting for anything. More back up. The command from the Sargent, the Lt, the Capt, or the Chief. They may have been waiting for more equipment. They may have been waiting for a warrant.
And then again they do work for the government.

Still, it seems unconscionable. But what does it mean? They were all in on the conspiracy?

Give me the evidence.
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You know, the who how and why of this really makes little difference to me.
Those who insist they must know, usually say it's because then they have to have a solution so that "this can never happen again".

This will happen again.

There has been evil in the world since the beginning of time, and there will continue to the end of time. So this is something we have to accept if we want to live in the real world.

No law, policy, procedure, nor anything else can or will stop it.

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A Tactical Analysis Of The Las Vegas Mass Shooting Incident
Wednesday, 11 October 2017 Brandon Smith

I set aside some time for more details of the Vegas shooting to emerge before writing this article. A few important data points have been released, but I have to say that this remains one of the most confusing terror incidents in decades.

The tactical and strategic thought applied in this attack denotes a sophisticated and experienced shooter, yet, we are told by Stephen Paddock's family and girlfriend that there was no indication that he had such knowledge or experience. There were some advanced tactical decisions involved in every aspect of the staging of the event, yet, there were also a few glaring mistakes that do not fit. Beyond this, there is evidence that Paddock (the alleged shooter) did not act alone, yet, the official mainstream narrative continues to tell us that he was a lone wolf.

Now, every terror event these days produces an endless supply of alternative theories, some practical and some ridiculous. I will be keeping my theories to a minimum here, because I don't think they serve much purpose in this instance beyond comfort for those that desperately want explanations. What I will be doing is presenting some questions and pointing out inconsistencies. My goal is merely to show that there is evidence which indicates far more complexity to the Vegas shooting than the mainstream media and federal officials are willing to discuss.
First, lets look at how the attack was staged versus what we are told about the background of Stephen Paddock.

Mass Shooter Psychological Profile
Psychological disposition is the root of tactical behavior.  It is important to note that mass shootings are an extremely rare occurrence despite the propaganda often poured onto the pages of the mainstream media. Psychological profiling of the people behind these crimes is difficult because the number of candidates is very small. There are, however, some common themes.

For example — many mass shooters are motivated by revenge or envy. Shooters often exhibit signs of sociopathy, a self-centered nature and a lack of compassion along with past instances of abuse and violence towards other people and animals. There is also usually a previous history of mental illness. In most cases there is a "triggering event" which leads to a psychological break and a reaction to violence.

According to the personal accounts from the people that knew Paddock, including his girlfriend, none of these attributes seems to fit. Marilou Danley described him as a "kind and caring man," stating that he had never taken any action which would have led her to believe he was capable of such violence. The only factor that stands as evidence of a potential psychological break is the fact that Paddock was prescribed the anti-anxiety drug diazepam months prior, which has been known to cause aggression when taken in larger doses.

Did Paddock take this drug because of unrelated anxiety and did it trigger his shooting spree? Or, was his anxiety caused by the fact that he was already planning a shooting spree and the drug was meant to "take the edge off" so he could more easily follow through with the attack?
Paddock was prescribed the drug once in 2016 and on June 21st of this year.  I have seen no evidence that he was using the medication in the days before the attack.  The meticulous planning that went into this attack, as well as possible evidence that Paddock was renting rooms adjacent to major musical events for some time, shows that this was not initiated by a psychological break. Rather, there was a considerable level of conscious critical thought and foresight.

There is also no available evidence of domestic instability or financial troubles. Paddock was a multi-millionaire with a successful real estate investment portfolio. He was a former postal worker and tax auditor, as well as an employee for defense contractor Lockheed Martin (I have not seen any statements by Lockheed on what exactly he did for them). It should be noted that Paddock, at age 64, was one of the oldest mass shooters in recent history.

Paddock's father, a bank robber on the FBI's Most Wanted list, was not present for the most of the early lives of the children according to his brother, Eric Paddock, which undermines the notion of poor environmental influences.

Eric Paddock claims Stephen also had no strong ideological or religious leanings and simply "didn't care" about such matters. Meaning, no apparent ties to extremist views. He had no social media profiles and police claim they have found nothing in his home computers or phones to suggest a philosophical or political motive. So far I have not seen a single concrete and verified piece of evidence proving Paddock believed in anything other than making money, gambling and traveling the world for fun.

I personally find this extremely hard to believe. Stephen Paddock, for all intents and purposes, was positively the perfect "Gray Man," a ghost that blended completely into the background, so much so that his own family and girlfriend had no idea that he was amassing the weapons and training needed to pull off the Vegas attack.

The Tactical Know-How Of A Nobody
This is the area which brings up the most questions for me in terms of the Vegas incident. As an avid tactical shooter and long distance shooter, I immediately recognized some strange factors. For instance, the choice of his perch, two adjacent rooms on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, was rather effective for a number of reasons.

If you have the chance to study counter-sniping methodologies or talk with veterans involved in counter-sniping in urban areas, you will learn that the most successful snipers tend to choose mid-ground perches to take shots from. Meaning, they never choose the highest points nor the lowest points, and never shoot from the closest points or the furthest points. Well trained snipers can and do sometimes shoot from 1,000 yards or more, but they prefer to shoot from the "sweet spot" around 300-400 yards away at an elevated point from an expedient hide in the middle of a building or structure.

They do this because when people (including trained combat soldiers) are shot at, their eyes naturally tend to scan for the highest points in the background and the closest points in the foreground first. Choosing mid-ground positions makes snipers more difficult to pick out quickly and also harder for the average person to shoot back at.

I would note that average, untrained mass shooters are more likely to enter a crowd and start shooting at point blank range in order to ensure hits on targets. Paddock chose the position of a trained shooter, which you can see a photo of in this article by The New Yorker. It was NOT the best possible position, but a very good one.

Paddock's choice to fire from the position of a large occupied hotel gave a layer of cover to his attack; anyone attempting to suppress him with their own fire would risk hitting innocent people within the building.  Only a person with an understanding of counter-sniping and a scoped rifle would have the ability to stop the attack from outside.  Nevada is a very concealed carry friendly state and attacking a crowd at close range on the ground would be a high risk scenario.  Firing from the Mandalay was the shooter's most likely chance of a high body count without meeting opposition, as long as he had the proper training.

The first room Paddock used in the Mandalay is in the corner of the 32nd floor with a view of the concert area and the north. It has a diagonal range of around 400 yards and a linear range of around 240 yards. When firing from an elevated position snipers range targets and bullet drop according to the shorter linear range or "true ballistic distance" (base of the ground to the target) rather than the direct range from their perch to the target. This is because gravity only affects the bullet over the true ballistic distance and elevation in a scope must be adjusted to that distance. It is not as easy as it seems to hit targets from an elevated position, even with an "automatic" weapon.

It has been recently stated by Las Vegas police that the "note" found near Paddock's body was scribbled with calculations for bullet drop from his position. These calculations can be done with newer laser rangefinders, but Stephen apparently chose to do them on paper. Las Vegas Detective Casey Clarkson was on the grounds of the concert during the attack, and recounted "I'm like, how is he so accurate" (in reference to Paddock) in an interview with 60 Minutes. Yet another piece of evidence showing that Paddock (or someone else) had extensive shooter training.

The two adjacent rooms at the Mandalay offered extensive coverage of possible approaches for first responders. The first room gave the shooter good coverage of the concert and the north approach of Las Vegas Blvd. The second room gave the shooter a very wide angle of coverage to the south approach to the Mandalay as well as the main entrance of the hotel. More tactical know-how on display.

Finally, Paddock allegedly placed small surveillance cameras in the hall approaching his room. A valuable tool which a shooter could use to surprise law enforcement, maintaining a longer period of shooter effectiveness as well as possibly allowing for an escape. Las Vegas police are quoted as stating that it appeared as though Paddock had planned to evade capture. This fits in line with the rest of his tactical staging. His suicide does not.

Things That Don't Add Up
Again, I am not going to enter into much discussion on theory, here. I am only going to cite some instances of evidence and narrative that, for me, do not make sense.  Let's begin...

The motive: No apparent motive. Paddock led a life of near luxury, had a happy relationship with his girlfriend and gave no indication to anyone of any instability or ideological affiliation. He had no criminal record. He was also well beyond the average age range of people commonly involved in such crimes. He does not fit any of the characteristics of mass shooters.  Period.

The arsenal: Paddock put a substantial amount of thought and planning into the position of his perch as well as a potential escape. He had the knowledge and experience to calculate accurate shots from an elevated position at distance. But, for some reason the 64-year-old-man decided it was warranted to drag at least 23 guns and hundreds of pounds of ammunition in ten separate suitcases to his room at the Mandalay Bay. A person with the intelligence displayed in the planning of this event would know that most of these rifles were not needed in the slightest to achieve the effect desired. They are dead weight, and moving them into the Mandalay only presented unnecessary risk of discovery. Unless, of course, the original plan involved multiple shooters.

A strange year?: Family and acquaintances have mentioned Paddock's propensity for "disappearing" in the year previous to the Vegas attack. And, there is the fact that 33 of the 47 firearms Paddock owned were purchased in the last 12 months.

Security calls: Paddock called hotel security at least twice to complain about "loud music" on the floor below him the day of the shooting.  Why would a mass shooter care, or take the risk of drawing too much attention to himself?
The windows: Why, after so much careful planning, did Paddock expose his position by smashing two separate windows in his adjacent hotel rooms? There are other ways of providing a shooter's loophole with less exposure? Very odd.  Almost as if the decision to actually shoot was made suddenly, which does not fit the rest of the narrative or evidence.

"Unrelated" room alarm leads security right to Paddock: The Las Vegas Sheriffs Department indicates that security was originally led directly to the floor that Paddock was shooting from by a "door alarm" that was set off by someone three rooms down from him. Now, authorities have been forced to admit that this alarm and the confrontation between security and Paddock took place BEFORE he began his shooting spree.  This means that police should have been alerted to Paddock's presence and exact location in advance of the attack.  Who set off this alarm which conveniently helped to give away Paddock's position early, and why?

The surveillance cameras: Paddock had a head start on security, SWAT and anyone else that approached his rooms. He fired at hotel security through his door injuring employee Jesus Campos. He also had thousands of rounds of ammunition including .308 rounds which could easily be fired through several walls on the floor of his hotel room. Why did Paddock prepare for an escape, use his cameras to allow him to fire at hotel security through his door, equip rounds capable of annihilating any SWAT team that stacked up to breach his room, but decided to shoot himself instead before SWAT ever entered? Some people might argue that there is no logic to the mind of a "madman," but again, I've seen no evidence that Paddock was insane beyond the criminal act itself.  Also, the hotel had its own surveillance in the hall near Paddock's rooms.  No one noticed the man placing cameras about the area?

Multiple shooters?: Las Vegas County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is quoted as saying that it was only logical to assume given the evidence that Paddock "had some help at some point" in the staging of the Vegas attack. To me, this is absolutely clear in the tactical planning.  Paddock does not appear to have the background or training to have chosen and staged the perch.

The report suggesting that a phone charger was found that did not belong to Paddock has since been refuted by police, as well as the report that his card key was used to access his room while Paddock was gone. Of course, hotel surveillance would prove this one way or the other and should be made available to the public.

Still, there are multiple accounts by witnesses that there may have been a second shooter, including the initial reports given by first responders on the scene, who were told a shooter was on the 29th floor as well as the 32nd floor.  All of these accounts have been dismissed as a result of "panic" and the fog of war.

The mystery woman: A witness on site at the concert stated that a woman (and her apparent boyfriend) approached people near the stage 45 minutes before the attack, telling them that "they were all going to die." She was later escorted out of the venue by security. Who was this woman? Was she trying to menace the concertgoers or warn them? Or, was it all coincidence?

Conclusion
In my view, there is simply no way that a man with Stephen Paddock's history and background committed the Vegas shooting alone. There is no motive, no clear evidence of mental illness, no ideological markers and nothing to be gained. The tactical expertise displayed in most cases shows considerable training. Theories will abound. It is possible that he was used. It is also possible that he was secretly radicalized and trained, as ISIS has continuously asserted since the attack. Or, perhaps he never pulled a single trigger and somehow ended up shot through the head in a room full of guns overlooking Las Vegas Blvd. and dozens of dead concertgoers.

The most disturbing aspect of this event and the mainstream narrative, though, is what it insinuates. It insinuates that anyone no matter how seemingly normal could one day simply "snap" and murder crowds of people with impunity. It is the anti-Second Amendment narrative personified, because if "anyone" is capable of such horror, and motive is nonexistent, then the mere existence of firearm access means that we are surrounded by millions of latent mass shooters. That is to say, we are supposed to fear everyone around us at all times. I will write about the solution to this problem in my next article. In the meantime, I suggest everyone ponder on the oddities of this event and continue to ask questions.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... uTlO3lJt8s


Eric Paddock Brother of Stephen says "Steve was an Arm---" and then stops suddenly.
Arms dealer?

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My mathematical mind liked this presentation very much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc6GcViB-Sk

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Man dressed as security guard fires machine gun into crowd. Start at 1:50.

Or was it a flash light? You decide.

Las Vegas Multiple Shooters Confirmed PROOF Part 2 - YouTube

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#LasVegas #1: The Mandalay Bay Massacre - YouTube

Detailed report of happenings at Las Vegas and multiple locations.

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"FBI ‘WIPED’ PHONES AND LAPTOPS OF LAS VEGAS MASSACRE VICTIMS
Ever since the Las Vegas Massacre took place, the mainstream narrative has contradicted itself over and over again. Officials have changed the timeline, there’s been witnesses claiming that there were multiple shooters, and now it’s been found that the FBI has completely wiped the phones and laptops of the survivors.

On that fateful night, dozens of Americans were murdered and hundreds more were injured. America has been struggling to understand how such a thing could happen, yet as more information comes to light, more have become suspicious of the FBI.The mainstream narrative has already contradicted itself numerous times, such as when they changed the time that the security guard was shot. Silence is Consent previously reported that the hotel was warned BEFORE Stephen Paddock allegedly opened fire onto the crowd of 20,000+ concert goers.

Now however, a maintenance man at Mandalay Bay hotel has spoken out, and his words are shocking Americans. “Call the police, someone’s firing a gun up here! Someone’s firing a rifle on the 32nd floor down the hallway!”
Stephen Schuck was checking on a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel when he stumbled onto the deadliest mass shooter in all of US history. Suddenly, he heard gunshots and saw a security guard who’d been shot in the leg. “Take cover!” the guard yelled.
“As soon as I started to go to a door to my left the rounds started coming down the hallway,” Schuck said. “I could feel them pass right behind my head.” Schuck immediately warned hotel management to call the police and report an active shooter, yet for some reason, they weren’t able to stop Stephen Paddock from murdering 48 people and injuring hundreds more."

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According to rumour:
"The killers were ISIS and the FBI has been supplying ISIS in the US with weapons to infiltrate the group."

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"My, what a difference a week makes.

Police have dramatically altered their original timeline and sequence of events, which only makes the official story regarding the Las Vegas shootings all the more unbelievable.
For a week, authorities (and their toadies in the media) told us that a hotel security guard was shot through the door by Paddock when he approached the room during the firing. Now we are being told that the unarmed guard was shot a full six minutes BEFORE the shooting began.

This new altered sequence of events changes the whole narrative completely. So instead of approaching the room after the shooting had begun, the security guard was shot a full SIX MINUTES before the shooting even started—and police DID NOT KNOW IT?

What?

Is this 1817? Were there no walkie talkies, telephones, or cell phones inside the Mandalay Bay Hotel? How about a telegraph machine?

How could there be a shooting inside one of the largest and most sophisticated hotels on the internationally famous Las Vegas strip at 9:59 pm and police did not even know about it until they happened to stumble upon the wounded security guard at around 10:18 pm—and after the shooter had killed 58 people?

So, the security guard was conscious and alert enough to warn a maintenance worker about the shooter (and his wounds by the shooter, I would presume), but he was unable to alert hotel management? Did the maintenance worker alert hotel management? Were there no guests in the hallway that heard the security guard get shot and alert hotel management? Did hotel management get the report that one of their security guards had been shot inside their hotel and not contact police? Did police get the report from the Mandalay Bay Hotel that a security guard had been shot and not respond?

I tell you, folks, this is more than bizarre. And it flat doesn’t make sense.

And what made the shooter STOP shooting? Now we are told it was NOT the security guard. He was shot six minutes before assumed shooter Stephen Paddock even started firing. What made the shooter stop? It wasn’t the security guard; it wasn’t the police. What made him stop?

Furthermore, why would police “not be in a hurry” to enter the shooter’s room? How could they know he was dead? The official story is that police arrived at the 32nd floor at 10:17 pm and discovered the wounded security guard at 10:18 pm. The guard pointed the officers to the shooter’s room, and officers arrived at the door moments later. The shooter had stopped firing at 10:15 pm. So, officers were at the door only minutes from the time the shooter had stopped firing. For all they knew the shooter’s rifle could have jammed, and he was trying to get it working or something. They couldn’t know if he was alive or dead or just what was going on UNTIL THEY GOT INTO THAT ROOM. But they were “not in a hurry” to do so? Now get this: police didn’t enter Paddock’s room until 11:20 pm—over an hour later. What? This is baffling.

It’s been well over a week since the shootings took place, and not only are our questions not being answered, more and deeper questions keeping popping up.

At this point, all I can say is that I am personally convinced that there was more than one shooter. It seems virtually impossible to me that an untrained 64-year-old Stephen Paddock could have carried out these shootings by himself.

The next shooting (and there will be another one) will be worse than Las Vegas. They will not stop until America is disarmed OR until the American people awaken to what is happening and demand that the light of truth start shining on the dark forces behind these atrocities.

Of course, the other thing these mass shootings accomplish is to put America deeper and deeper in a cage. You can bet that from now on getting into a Las Vegas hotel casino will be like boarding a commercial airliner—or worse. Larger cities across America will enact stricter and stricter security measures in more and more places, which means our liberties will go down the toilet even faster. Plus, don’t forget that numerous insider security peddlers such as former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security under President G.W. Bush (and co-author of the Patriot Act) Michael Chertoff are going to make billions of dollars promoting the security industry.

Plus, instead of enacting MORE gun control, what Congress and the states should be doing is start rolling back gun control laws already on the books and stop limiting the American people's liberties to freely obtain and carry firearms virtually ANYWHERE. In short, eliminate gun-free zones and stop turning honest, God-fearing people into criminals because they choose to defend themselves.

The more we are told about the Las Vegas shootings, the less believable it is." ~ Chuck Baldwin

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"I don't understand what's happening with this Las Vegas investigation. First they told us Paddock was stopped in the middle of his massacre by the security guard. Then they changed it and said the security guard was shot a full 6 minutes before the shooting began. Now the hotel has come out and claimed the security guard was shot only 40 seconds before Paddock fired on the crowd.

What?

This is a hotel in Las Vegas. The guy emptied 200 rounds into the hallway. You're telling me they can't pinpoint exactly what time that happened? There are cameras everywhere. Paddock even had his own cameras. And the security guard was there. And weren't there other guests in the hotel? Between all of these resources -- especially the cameras -- you're telling me they still haven't quite figured out the timeline almost two weeks later?

What?

But let's go with the revised and most recent timeline from the police. They say the security guard was shot (only once in the leg somehow) when Paddock fired 200 rounds through his door. Then six minutes later, he began shooting at the crowd and continued for 10 whole minutes. That's 16 minutes from the first shot to the last. He was not interrupted by the police.

How?

They knew exactly where he was. We're told the cops were in the building during or immediately after the security guard was shot. Yet they didn't make it to the 32nd floor until a minute after the last shot was fired. 18 minutes to get upstairs? 18 minutes?

What?

And then an hour -- an HOUR -- passed before they breached the door and found Paddock already dead. I'm told that they probably had to wait for SWAT because the average cop doesn't come equipped to handle a situation like this. OK, so you're telling me that a guy can spend 16 minutes firing thousands of rounds in various directions in the middle of one of the busiest, most monitored, most secure cities on Earth and yet it will take almost an hour and a half for SWAT to get on the scene?

What?

And this is all to say nothing of the fact that Paddock set up his elaborate kill room in this hotel without anyone in the hotel getting suspicious.

By the way, why haven't any videos of Paddock surfaced? Why haven't we heard from a single guest on the floor where the shooting happened?

I don't understand any of this. And it's hard to escape the conclusion at this point that we're being lied to. I simply don't believe that they're truly confused about the timeline.

All of this was very loud and noticeable and there were witnesses and video cameras everywhere. You're telling me they didn't know what time it was when a dude sprayed bullets into the hallway? I don't believe it. It makes no sense. None of this does." ~ Matt Walsh

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/la ... views.html

Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews

Where in the world is Jesus Campos?

The Mandalay Bay security guard shot by Stephen Paddock in the moments leading up to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.

Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.

“We were in a room and we came out and he was gone,” Campos' union president told reporters, according to ABC News’ Stephanie Wash.

Campos is represented by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which did not respond to requests for comment from Fox News earlier this week.

Fox News' Sean Hannity tweeted out that Campos, who was scheduled to appear on "Hannity" Thursday night, “cancelled” his appearance.

Little is known about Campos, with few pictures to emerge of the security guard and no apparent online footprint surfacing to provide details about one of the central figures in the mass shooting.

SPFPA President David L. Hickey told reporters new information about the timeline of the attack -- for which Las Vegas Police and MGM Resorts have given conflicting accounts – doesn’t dispute Campos is still a hero for saving a maintenance worker and possibly stopping additional shots, Wash reported.

MGM Resorts issued a statement Thursday to “correct some of the misinformation that has been reported."

“We know that shots were being fired at the festival lot at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after, the time Jesus Campos first reported that shots were fired over the radio,” the statement said. “Metro officers were together with armed Mandalay Bay security officers in the building when Campos first reported that shots were fired over the radio. These Metro officers and armed Mandalay Bay security officers immediately responded to the 32nd floor.”

In the most recent police timeline, provided Monday, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said Paddock fired about 200 bullets from his room at the resort starting at 9:59 p.m. on Oct. 1 -- the volley in which Campos was hit -- and then began opening fire on the music festival crowd six minutes later.

Police had earlier said the opposite – that Campos was struck after Paddock started firing out the window.

Nearly two weeks into the investigation, authorities have yet to disclose a motive for Paddock’s attack, which left 58 dead.

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EmmaLee wrote: October 13th, 2017, 3:49 pm
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It’s been well over a week since the shootings took place, and not only are our questions not being answered ...


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The truth is, Emma Lee, and Chuck Baldwin, for that matter. I really don't have any questions.

This was a tragedy, it happened, there's no way to prevent these things, I accept that. And I must go on with my life.

I know that there will be armies of self righteous know it alls who will go on a crusade to "make sure this never happens again". But it's a totally misguided effort.

Taking a gun, any gun away from me will never stop someone else from shooting people.

But that's what these misguided self important, bloated egos think. That they know "the answer".

The only answer is that there is no answer. That evil has existed in this world from the beginning of time, and will continue to the end of time.

Just like taking my car away from me won't stop other people from driving under the influence of drugs and or alcohol, and killing people.

But that doesn't matter to those who want to "feel good" about themselves and say "I DID something!"

They will never question did what they did, what they supported, did it stop these things? It can't. It isn't related.

So speculate on. Look at every "expert". Look at all the conspiracy theories. Spend a lot of time at it, questioning, re-questioning, wondering, etc.

I've got some painting to do.

I'll go do it.
dc

PS I know the government is corrupt. And filled with conspiracies. I still have to do my painting.

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For someone who doesn't want to "spend a lot of time" on this subject, you sure spend a lot of time on this subject.

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"The Mandalay Bay security guard supposedly shot by Stephen Paddock was set to break his silence Thursday night with five television interviews, including one on Fox News, Campos' union president said.

Except when the cameras were about to roll, and media gathered in the building to talk to him, Campos reportedly bolted, and, as of early Friday morning, it wasn't immediately clear where he was.

— Stephanie Wash (@WashNews) October 13, 2017
“We were in a room and we came out and he was gone,” Campos' union president told reporters, according to ABC News’ Stephanie Wash.

Campos is represented by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which did not respond to requests for comment from Fox News earlier this week.

Fox News' Sean Hannity tweeted out that Campos, who was scheduled to appear on "Hannity"Thursday night, “cancelled” his appearance."

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EmmaLee wrote: October 13th, 2017, 5:28 pm For someone who doesn't want to "spend a lot of time" on this subject, you sure spend a lot of time on this subject.

No. I just type extremely fast.
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Las Vegas Shooting Witness Who Identified Multiple Shooters, Found Dead.

Kymberley Suchomel died suddenly after giving statement exposing multiple gunmen.

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I have been receiving phone calls, messages &... - Kymberley Suchomel

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"5 October at 04:12I have been receiving phone calls, messages & texts galore since Sunday night, and I have been providing the same copy & pasted message to each of those who have contacted me. A really quick, vague, account of what happened at the Route 91 Festival in Las Vegas. It has been nearly 72 hours since the nightmare took place, and I am finally able to sit here & put into words my own personal account. I have attached some photos of the fun we did have.
I would first like to give a huge giant thank you to both Casie Barnard & Ricky Ardito, without them I can guarantee you I wouldn’t have gotten out like I did- I would have dropped to the floor, stunned, and I would not have been able to get up. I owe them both my life.
Sunday morning we woke up sore & hungover from the nights before. Friday & Saturday nights were a blast- we drank too much, and fought the crowd to get as close to the stage as possible. We acted like we were in our early 20s and hitting Vegas for the first time; however, when we woke up Sunday we all were in complete agreeance that we would not be doing that again. We decided, instead, to bring in a king sized sheet & sit on the astro-turf in the way, way back & just peacefully watch the concert from our spacious sheet. We also decided to drink the morning and afternoon of, but not the evening, as Ricky, Cassie & Mendy had an early day ahead of them, having to leave at 4am to get Ricky to work Monday morning. When we had full bellies & got our retail fix in-shopping the vendors, we headed to the main stage where we immediately sought out that back sitting area. Unfortunately, we procrastinated getting to our seats for too long, and every spot was taken. We ultimately ended up on the next fake-grass area much closer to the stage- but we still had a decent amount of space & great viewing area, so we spread out our sheet and claimed it our territory. We remember exactly where we were, because most of us (excluding myself) left to go to the bathroom & get water during the concert, so we used landmarks to be able to find each other again. I remember distinctly that one of the bars was to my left and I had to look behind me to see it- thinking maybe I should get one more beer, but I already had a full bladder & I have an irrational fear of porta-potties, so I decided against it.
We are all hanging out on this sheet, dancing our booties off, enjoying ourselves so much that we took off our boots to get even more comfortable. Casie & I were on opposite sides of our little 5-person group. I was on the far right side, and I had so much room to dance that this guy who walked by, who we called “camo man”, actually said to me “taking up a lot of real estate there, eh?” jokingly. After about 20 minutes of Jason Aldean’s set, I got this overwhelming feeling to go stand over by Casie. I can’t tell you why, but I did. The entire time I was dancing next to her I kept thinking to myself, “why? Why don’t I go back to my spacious area?? There is no room to dance over here.. I am not having a good time over here… okay, on the next song I will”. But, there wasn’t a next song.
From about 50 feet in front of us, and a little to the right, fire crackers were set off. Let me repeat that… FIRE CRACKERS WERE SET OFF. I verbally stated “some @#$#%@! just shot of fire crackers in close proximity to so many people”. I was literally pissed off. You could see Jason Aldean look to his left kind of startled by it, but he was also clearly irritated. I would say about 15 seconds later, the first volley of gunfire was released. It was a shorter volley than any of the others, and the gunfire was not as close together either. EVERYONE looked up, down, around. We thought it was more fire crackers at first, but then Ricky reached over, told us all to put our boots on, quickly. And the volley ended. Then people started to panic. The gentlemen behind me looked at me as I was putting on my boots, half laying down, and said “calm down crazy, its just fireworks, jeez”. That is when the 2nd volley went off, Ricky yelled at us all to get down, flat, & we immediately knew there was someone shooting at us. I remember getting down, but I didn’t lay flat for some reason, thinking- oh my gosh, I need to get flatter than I am now, but my body just wouldn’t let me. That was the 2nd volley. At the end of that volley ( I am still struggling to get my boots on), we turned and tried to run, but the people behind us still weren’t moving. I yelled at the lady “RUN! ITS GUNFIRE! RUUUUUUUUUNNNNN!!!” The look on her face was pure terror, but she finally dropped her stuff and turned to begin running…. But then the 3rd volley hit… and it was close. Very, very close to us. I could physically see the impact of the bullets on the astro-turf, I could feel the warmth & the passing of bullets. Once that 3rd volley was over, Casie linked her arm into mine, and we decided at that moment we weren’t stopping- we were getting the Hell out of there. And I do mean Hell. We were in literal Hell. The gentlemen that mocked me stating it was just fireworks fell to the ground, and he never got back up. The lady behind me (who was now in front of me) who was terrified as I told her to run, never got back up. I actually had to physically step over her body to run (something I am still struggling with, so please don’t attack me. I was absolutely in flight-or-fight mode). There was another person to my right who also wasn’t moving. We ran. I don’t know what direction we ran, I don’t know towards which landmark we ran. We just ran. It was at this time our group got split up. Casie & I were together. Ricky, Cassie & Mendy were together.
We were rounding some sort of corner maybe- and I looked to the right and I saw this large cowboy sitting down with his legs spread, holding a blood-soaked woman. I thought to myself “we NEED to hide”, but as I looked quickly for somewhere to go, the gunfire once again got closer and closer. We couldn’t hide because they (and I do mean THEY) were chasing us. That exact moment is when I started to really panic. That is the exact moment in which I thought this was it, I was going to die, I was never going to see my family again. So, as we are running, we approach this fence where men are throwing women over, and we ran up to it as they had knocked It down, so we were able to get out. As we crossed the threshold of the venue, my mind went straight to other mass shootings and hearing the victim’s families in my head talk about how they never got to say goodbye. I did not want this for my husband (who was at work) & my grandma (who had my daughter, Scarlett). So, at 10:07pm I called my husband franticly leaving him a voicemail- telling him that I loved him and was in the middle of a shooting & I wasn’t sure if I would make it out alive. Next, while still running, I called my grandma to tell her the exact same thing. But the gunfire wasn’t stopping this whole time. It wasn’t ceasing. It wasn’t slowing down. And It was directly behind us, following us. Bullets were coming from every direction. Behind us, in front of us, to the side of us. But I know, I just know, that there was someone chasing us. The entire time I felt this way. The farther we got from the venue, the closer the gunfire got. I kept looking back expecting to see the gunmen- and I say MEN because there was more than one person. There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.
As we were running, we kept changing direction, because it felt like no matter what direction we took, we were being followed. So we ended up running in a weird triangular path. The first place I remember getting to was a parking lot, and I told Casie (who was slightly in front of me) we needed to get under one of the trucks. She turned to me and started her way back to me, and that is when the gunfire got even CLOSER than ever before. It was RIGHT THERE. It was within the parking lot. Everyone around us was panicking once again. So we ditched the idea of getting underneath a vehicle, and we continued the run for our lives. If you know me, you know I am a big girl, who is out of shape, and who definitely does not run for any reason. But I can tell you I ran like I have never run before.
The 2nd place I remember going by was Hooters- which is where we met back up with the rest of our small group. We ran towards the entrance thinking we could take cover there, but as we got closer, a stampede of people ran out, terrified. We could only conclude that there was another gunman inside of that hotel. This made us even more scared- we had nowhere to go- no one to trust. At some point, we ended up at the airport & even entered the building for safety. Everyone as we entered were screaming at the staff “IS IT SAFE IN HERE?” but we weren’t getting anyone to answer us, so after running about 30 feet into the building, not getting the answers we so desperately needed, we decided it, too, wasn’t a safe spot, so we got out of there quickly and continued running.
After all this running, we were tired, sore & having to stop to cough, gag and even vomit. We ran across an intersection & us & another group of people pleaded with a limo driver to let us in and get us out of there. He was clearly confused & didn’t understand what was going on, so he didn’t let us in. Next, we ran to a taxi van & she was willing to let us in, but she told us her van only held 4 people & she wasn’t going to let the 5 of us in, so we said screw it and continued running. At one point, we ran passed a small liquor store where they so graciously gave us water bottles. We passed UNLV as well.
Some things I can’t remember exactly where we were or at what time of the night they happened. But we were running along what I am guessing was Tropicana Avenue, and this dark colored sedan drives by, slows a little, and a smaller Hispanic, dark-haired woman leans out the window, and she yells something we couldn’t understand in a clearly taunting manner. It really freaked us out, because again, we didn’t know who we could and could not trust.
I don’t remember at which time, but at some point, Ricky was reminded by Cassie that his Uncle Manny lived in Vegas. He called him, and we made a plan to meet him at a grocery store a couple miles away to get picked up. We finally made it to him, he shoved us all in his car, drove us to our hotel (we stayed off the strip), waited for us to pack (this literally took us all of 10 minutes max to do), and escorted us to the freeway to get us home. A HUGE thank you to Uncle Manny for his love, generosity & kindness.
The what-ifs still kill me. What if we hadn’t decided to be chill that night? What if we went to the same sardine-like spot we were in the two previous nights? What if we had been drinking as much as we had been Saturday night? Would we have had the reaction time to escape? What if I hadn’t had the desire to move next to Casie? Would we have been separated? There are still so many what-ifs from that night.
I have bene watching the news non-stop since I arrived back home to my family. And it just doesn’t make sense. The story that are feeding everyone doesn’t add up to our eyewitness accounts. There is something wrong with what they are saying & the evidence seems fake if you ask me. There are multiple people stating that there was a lady towards the beginning of the evening who had made her way up to the stage warning people that we were all gunna die- her and her boyfriend were escorted off the premises. Why has she not been mentioned by authorities? Every single survivor I have talked to also remembers multiple shooters, and at least one from the ground- why aren’t we being taken more seriously? Tons of things don’t add up.
I know I am forgetting a bunch of what happened, and I will edit this post to include it as I remember.
I praise our Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ, for surviving a horrific incident. People were dropping like flies all around me, and there is absolutely ZERO reason why I wasn’t at least struck with a bullet. I left the Route 91 Festival completely unharmed physically, besides some scrapes and super sore bones & muscles. Mentally, however, is a different story. I do okay during the day, but as soon as nightfall hits, I get super scared & anxious. I am even typing this up with butterflies in my stomach and a racing heart. I don’t want to be alone. I don’t want to go anywhere, ever. I can no longer be in any place with large crowds- concerts, festivals, theme parks, zoos, etc. I can no longer trust anyone around me. I can no longer close my eyes without seeing those bodies & hearing the sound of gunfire. I am ruined, as are thousands upon thousands of people.
We were given wristbands to wear for the 3-day event. I can’t seem to take mine off.
We went to Las Vegas for a super fun, down to Earth country concert featuring our favorite artists. We left scared, scarred, traumatized and broken. And for that, we demand answers."
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