Antifa nationwide protest?

[David13]

How are antifa authoritarian nationalists? Maybe by fascist you mean intolerant or totalitarian?
"Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

I will agree with you on that one issue. They are globalists, I believe, and not at all in favor of any American nation or the US of A.
However, they are on most other factors.
dc

In a sense they are so nonsensical that they are much along the lines of anarchists. But I do believe there is a global socialist/communist agenda behind what they are up to.

And, anarchy is known to be a stepping stone tactic for socialist/communists.

[SmallFarm]

How are antifa authoritarian nationalists? Maybe by fascist you mean intolerant or totalitarian?
"Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

Fascism and communism are two extremes of totalitarianism. Antifa are everything they hate, they're on the other end of the political spectrum.
It's almost like they're authoritarian "anti"- nationalists. You could keep the rest of the definition though. Everyone the same under communism, right? (Except the leaders, of course) anything else is "_______ist" or "________phobic".

I'm not sure that all antifa are pro-communist, though many certainly are. Lately my friends have been sliding closer to rejecting any authority, and since that means they are moving away from support of communism I'm glad.

[Mark]

How to appease a leftist.

Give up 100% of your income and total control over every aspect of your life to a government that they control 100%. They will never be appeased until you do that.

If you are not OK with that then stop trying to appease them.

My friend, a retired Airman MP has a way worth looking into. Take a large, long, square piece of hickory, carve a handle on one end and the word "APPEASEMENT" on the other end. Apply liberally. Very liberally.

I say just take those large VERY POWERFUL water cannons out where they are causing problems and spray the crap out of them. When they are tired of floating down the street gutters with all the rest of the dirt and debris they will get the picture and stop acting like the communist agitators that they have become. Or useful idiots as they say..

[cathyk]

My friend, a retired Airman MP has a way worth looking into. Take a large, long, square piece of hickory, carve a handle on one end and the word "APPEASEMENT" on the other end. Apply liberally. Very liberally.

Now you're sounding a little too much like them.

[skmo]

How are antifa authoritarian nationalists? Maybe by fascist you mean intolerant or totalitarian?
"Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe."

Because they are willing to accept only one outcome: Theirs. If your ideology differs, you will be silenced by whatever means they need to use regardless of how they do it. Fascism is not solely nationalistic, it includes the idea that only ONE government/ruling body/controlling force should be in charge: Theirs. It's not an idea of strictly nations per se, but one of control through whatever means.

I don't know that there's anybody in any of the Antifa groups who can really explain specifics of how to implement their ideas other than with mouthed platitudes. They're not fighting For something, they're fighting Against something. It's a way to let angry teens and people who never matured beyond (or even to) teen emotional development get pissed about something.

No, I'll amend that: It certainly is that, but it also exists to provide direction for those who are already upset. Although some may understand why, my feeling is that a lot of these "activists" are too intellectually lazy to really be informed enough to explain anything much beyond their shouted slogans.

[gardener4life]

I don't know much about this but the clues and articles about it seem to think that they plan to do MORE than just protesting. And with so many people doing it all at once it could collapse very easily into violence.

But here's my thought...

I think that whatever this group is doing they plan to masquerade as peaceful protesters until they are so big and widespread that they perceive that they can't be stopped. They gain strength through seeing each other in open rebellion with each other. When their numbers get serious enough, then I think they'll flip a switch and then do their real plan which is to take over. This seems to be the most logical scenario. That's also how a lot of Islamic takeover strategies start; pretend peace until you build up strength enough to overthrow.

As of yet people in this country don't take seriously the threat of overthrowing a government. We don't punish this seriously. And if we wait too long to realize it should be a very serious crime we'll be too late.

[Elizabeth]

http://www.gopusa.com/?p=31884?omhide=true


"For some time, the mainstream media has been doing its best to cover up the threatening and violent ways of the far-left extremist group of political activists known as Antifa, which more and more conservatives are recognizing as a militant masked anti-Trump gang masquerading as self-proclaimed anti-fascists.
After Fox News recently called out the liberal anti-American militants – who marred Columbus Day with their anarchist vandalism – one progressive news hub accused the conservative media and Fox News of blowing their threat out of proportion.
“Fox News panics about the menace of’ ‘leftist antifa thugs,’ local news networks worry about the prospect of anarchist invaders, and think piece after think piece warns that antifa’s tactics are going too far,” left-leaning Vox author Carlos Maza wrote, according to WND. “But so far, antifa have made up a small part of the protests they showed up at.”
Maza goes on to indicate that Antifa is just a harmless, misunderstood group with a good cause that has been victimized by a concerted right-wing smear campaign.
“They may look scary, but much of the hype around them is a product of sensationalized media coverage,” he continued. “[The conservative media is] incentivized to focus on the most extreme and badly behaved members of any protest.”
But similar accusations can be made about the mainstream media’s slanted depiction of so-called white nationalists – and their trumped-up connection to the president.
“However, the same could be said of the liberal media’s coverage of white racist movements and their attempt to link the groups to President Trump,” WND pointed out. “But unlike the so-called alt-right, antifa activists have powerful supporters within the mainstream media who consciously work to downplay the extremism of the masked radicals. Some establishment media members even proudly claim the label of antifa.”
Project Veritas Founder and President James O’Keefe exposed the hypocrisy of the leftist media when he recently unleashed a video showing New York Times Video Audience Strategy Editor Nick Dudich admitting that part of his job is slanting the news to color Trump in an unfavorable light.
When an undercover Project Veritas journalist asked Dudich if he was objective when delivering the news at the Times, he had a surprisingly candid response.
“No, I’m not,” he replied, according to Project Veritas. “That’s why I’m here … My voice is on… my imprint is on every video we do.”
He made no pretenses to hide his bias against Trump, making his contempt for the president and his family known by sharing what he would like to do to him.
“I’d target his businesses, his dumb [expletive] of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric…” Dudich impressed. “Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott… So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they’re hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he’d lash out and do something incredibly illegal – which he would have to.”
The Times staff member was then asked by the undercover journalist if he could make sure that anti-Trump stories make it to the front.
“Oh, we always do,” Dudich replied.
At another time, he shared that during his youth, he was a member of America’s notorious far-left terrorist group.
“Yeah, I used to be an Antifa punk once upon a time,” Dudich boasted when speaking with the Daily Caller.
For some time, the leftist news media has loyally adopted the task of portraying Antifa as if it were a patriotic, selfless and sacrificial group seeking to bring about truth and justice for all Americans, but discerning onlookers can easily identify the group as little more than a politically motivated gang of brawlers.
“There is … one group guilty of regularly assaulting members of the media, and that group just so happens to be the very same leftwing gang of masked thugs that the media frequently compares to the American troops who stormed Normandy on D-Day, to freedom fighters, to righteous opponents of hate and bigotry,” Breitbart reported.
Those who have steadfastly protected the militant group have often been the recipients of its wrath.
“While a quick Internet search came up with too-many-to-count instances of Antifa committing various acts of personal and property violence, I was able to find no fewer than 10 instances of Antifa assaulting members of the very same media so enamored with Antifa, so eager to defend these leftwing terrorists who stalk, disrupt and assault everyday Republicans, who (like the media) see no moral difference between a Trump supporter and a neo-Nazi,” Breitbart’s John Nolte divulged before listing off Antifa’s leftist victims.
Incurring this abuse does little to motivate the mainstream media to expose Antifa for what it really is.
“Now, don’t be fooled by pleas of ignorance,” Nolte stressed. “Our media is very well aware of what is going on here – well aware of the fact that these leftwing hooligans regularly target their colleagues in this manner. Why, then, doesn’t the media – who love to report on themselves as brave victims – go to Defcon 1 against Antifa?”
The conservative reporter then answered his own question.
“Despite the physical assaults, the bullying, the equipment damage, the menacing, the cuts and bruises, our media still sees Antifa as an ally – as their own righteous army of vigilantes roaming the Earth, to beat up anyone who does not hold the ‘correct’ political views,” Nolte argued.
He emphasized that the left-leaning mainstream media never forgets who its real enemy is.
“Just like the Democrat Party, the national media loves that this mob is out there, wants them out there, cheers, excuses and rationalizes their violence, their riots, their suppression of ‘unapproved’ speech,” Nolte concluded. “[T]he media hates us enough that they do not at all mind being bloodied themselves – if that is what it takes to further The Holy Cause of Social Justice.”

[SmallFarm]

Still only seeing news of this from right wing sources.

[gardener4life]

You know we still don't know what is the likelihood of something like this happening on November 4th or whatever day it is now. I hope more people will be aware and let on if they know something.

[oneClimbs]

Sounds like propaganda, the media putting the call out there and giving people ideas.

[gardener4life]

Why do people not just call them rioters, instead of protesters too? When they throw rocks, set stuff on fire, block the highways, and damage property that's pretty far from protesting. Yet doing those activities they are still calling them protesters. And it gives people the wrong idea that we aren't allowed to defend ourselves or call it out and identify it.

[Serragon]

Why do people not just call them rioters, instead of protesters too? When they throw rocks, set stuff on fire, block the highways, and damage property that's pretty far from protesting. Yet doing those activities they are still calling them protesters. And it gives people the wrong idea that we aren't allowed to defend ourselves or call it out and identify it.

The media and the left sympathize with the antifa ideology, so they call them protesters because in America protesting is considered a noble and sacrificial activity. Rioters makes them sound like criminals.