Hugh Hefner has Passed Away
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This might belong in the News thread but I will put it here. With news like this I wanted to ask a question. When a knowingly evil man as widely known as Hugh dies.... what do you feel/think/do?
Do you rejoice?
Do you mourn thinking he may have done some good in the world right?
Do you .... not care?
Do you try to avoid the news articles and threads because there is possible contention brewing?
Do you pray for him?
All of the above?
There are many different ways to take news like this. I thought about making a poll, but I really do not care to go that far. I had 0 respect for the man. I think he represented everything wrong with the world. He helped build the great and spacious building. You'd have to let go of the rod to visit his mansion.
Should we rejoice then? Should we pray that God has mercy on him and forgive him? Both?
Do you rejoice?
Do you mourn thinking he may have done some good in the world right?
Do you .... not care?
Do you try to avoid the news articles and threads because there is possible contention brewing?
Do you pray for him?
All of the above?
There are many different ways to take news like this. I thought about making a poll, but I really do not care to go that far. I had 0 respect for the man. I think he represented everything wrong with the world. He helped build the great and spacious building. You'd have to let go of the rod to visit his mansion.
Should we rejoice then? Should we pray that God has mercy on him and forgive him? Both?
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I am not sure if Hugh is in a better place now, he had it pretty good here. ha, bad joke.
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I don't know if I'd see it that way - he spent his life surrounded by shallow, troubled women. That's about the farthest thing from heaven, if you ask me.
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Made a lot of money off selling pictues of women's nipples.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
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I remember when President Hinckley died, my first thought: "Oh good. He is with his wife!" I loved him and missed him, but I do not doubt he "filled the measure of his creation" and I was glad to see him progress in his eternal journey and rest from the cares of this world.
When I saw the headline today, I was glad Hugh Hefner would no longer be able to pollute the souls of the women who worked for him and the men who bought his pornography. A son of God, yes, but one who was killing the souls of men and women. This is something worse in my opinion than even killing the physical body. A body will be resurrected, a soul may be lost forever.
When I saw the headline today, I was glad Hugh Hefner would no longer be able to pollute the souls of the women who worked for him and the men who bought his pornography. A son of God, yes, but one who was killing the souls of men and women. This is something worse in my opinion than even killing the physical body. A body will be resurrected, a soul may be lost forever.
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I am not really mourning for either one. Men and women use porn and must suffer any consequences for their decisions. Women abused by the industry? I have heard porn stars state that, at least in high-end porn, the kind regular men and women watch, most of these women are extreme narcissists and get a thrill off what they do on camera.CelestialAngel wrote: ↑September 28th, 2017, 12:40 pm I mourn for all the porn addicts he created and women who were emotionally and physically abused in the porn industry.
The culture is what i mourn for. Hefner helped to jump start the sexual revolution and what has that given us? Weak men who cannot commit, women who think that drinking and having sex with dozens of men makes them "hot," abortion to clean up the mess and a rising epidemic of STDs.
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You mourn for men that bought the magazine and for women that gladly posed in it? Women that would of given a big toe to be in the magazine and a right arm to be on the cover. Nobody forced anyone to buy his magazine or pose in it.
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Yeh those "abused" women in the porn industry wear their 6 inch heels proudly all the way to the bank.Fiannan wrote: ↑September 28th, 2017, 12:55 pmI am not really mourning for either one. Men and women use porn and must suffer any consequences for their decisions. Women abused by the industry? I have heard porn stars state that, at least in high-end porn, the kind regular men and women watch, most of these women are extreme narcissists and get a thrill off what they do on camera.CelestialAngel wrote: ↑September 28th, 2017, 12:40 pm I mourn for all the porn addicts he created and women who were emotionally and physically abused in the porn industry.
The culture is what i mourn for. Hefner helped to jump start the sexual revolution and what has that given us? Weak men who cannot commit, women who think that drinking and having sex with dozens of men makes them "hot," abortion to clean up the mess and a rising epidemic of STDs.
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Where are the Feminist? Will they protest at his funeral for the years of objectification of women in his magazines? All I hear from women are from the ones that said he boosted their careers and gave them their start.
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Here's Henry Makow's take on the man, refurbished from a 2001 article; ties him into Kinsey, etc., another pervert (from: https://www.henrymakow.com/playboy-and- ... al_re.html ). A good and acccurate analysis, in my view:
Hugh Hefner & the (Homo) Sexual Revolution
September 28, 2017
PLAYBOY founder, Hugh Hefner, died Wednesday. No man has done more to destroy family values by making sex an end in itself. While the PLAYBOY philosophy was touted as the height of masculinity, it was really in essence homosexual.
This key article describes how baby boomers were brainwashed to eschew marriage in favor of promiscuity. This social engineering was designed to induct society into a satanic cult, . . . . . . see also: Makow How Society Became a Sex Cult
(Originally posted in 2001)
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
What sort of man reads PLAYBOY?
He is fastidious about his appearance, his home, and his possessions. He wants as much sex as possible and chooses sexual partners mostly on the basis of appearance. He is self-absorbed and doesn't want emotional involvement or commitment. He thinks a woman would stifle him and children would be a burden.
Does this sound like homosexual behavior? It is also the masculine ideal purveyed by PLAYBOY magazine to men since the 1950's.
At the End of Time, when they open the envelope labeled "What is the essence of manhood?" I suspect it will say: "Looking after women and children. Men act as God's agent by creating and supporting new life. The family is the red blood cell of society." But in 1972, when circulation peaked at seven million, 75% of college men got their ideas about masculinity from PLAYBOY, at an incalculable price to themselves, women, children, and society.
The similarity between the PLAYBOY and homosexual ideal is no coincidence. "The Kinsey Report" (1948) shaped current mainstream attitudes to sex. It championed unfettered sexual expression and became the manifesto of the counterculture and sexual revolution.
Kinsey said that deviant and unhealthy sexual behavior was so common as to be normal.
Thanks to psychologist Dr. Judith Reisman, we now know that the "Kinsey Report" was a fraud. Alfred Kinsey, left, a Rockefeller-funded University of Indiana zoologist, pretended to be a Conservative family man. In fact, he was a child molester and homosexual pervert who seduced his male students and forced his wife and associates to participate in pornographic home movies.
Kinsey's agenda, in Reisman's words, was "to supplant what he saw as a narrow procreational Judeo Christian era with a promiscuous "anything goes" bi/gay pedophile paradise." (Crafting Gay Children: An Inquiry, p.4)
More than 25% of his sample were prostitutes and prison inmates including many sex offenders. Kinsey, who died prematurely of "orchitis," a lethal infection in his testicles that followed years of orgiastic "self-abuse", said 10 percent of American men were gay when, in fact, only two percent were.
Kinsey and his team of pedophiles abused 2,000 infants and children to prove that they have sexual desires.
Reisman concludes: "America's growing libidinous pathologies...taught in schools...and reflected in our fine and popular arts, the press, law and public policy largely mirror the documented sexual psychopathologies of the Kinsey team itself." (Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences)
HEFNER'S DEBT TO KINSEY
The Kinsey Report inspired Hugh Hefner to start PLAYBOY in 1953. Hefner said the Kinsey Report "produced a tremendous sexual awakening, largely because of media attention...I really view Kinsey as the beginning. Certainly, the book was very important to me."
With messianic fervor, Playboy took its message of sexual freedom to the American male who, in the 1950's and 1960's, still consecrated sex for marriage.
But the freedom was illusory. Playboy's aim, the aim of all pornographers, was to hook men on the glossy fantasy. To do this, they had to prevent them from finding true satisfaction in marriage.
In Reisman's words, "Playboy was the first national magazine to exploit college men's fears of women and family commitment. Playboy offered itself as a reliable, comforting substitute for monogamous heterosexual love." (Soft Porn Plays Hardball, p 47)
Thus "sworn enemies," Playboy and feminists, found common ground in their hatred of healthy heterosexuality expressed in the nuclear family. As a result of the (homo)sexual revolution, society now suffers from epidemics of family breakdown, pornography, impotence, child sexual abuse, sado sexual violence, teen pregnancy, a cocktail of STD's and, of course, AIDS. The birthrate has plummeted by 60% since 1960 and is now below replacement level.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT HEALTHY
Homosexuality is a developmental disorder caused when a male child fails to bond with his father. Psychologist Richard Cohen, in "Coming Out Straight: Understanding and Healing Homosexuality" (2000) argues persuasively that, by having sex with men, the adult gay is trying to compensate for father-love denied in adolescence. Cohen was a homosexual himself and is now married with three children.
He attributes lesbianism to a woman's reaction to being rebuffed or abused by her father. He has cured hundreds of homosexuals but is under constant attack for undermining the gay political agenda, (i.e. redefining societal norms.)
Psychiatrist Jeffrey Satinover has pointed to another cause of homosexuality. A 1990 survey of 1000 gays shows that an older or more powerful partner physically assaulted 37% of them before the age of 19. (Homosexuality and American Public Life, 1999, p.24). In addition, according to Anne Moir in "Why Men Don't Iron," some men may be "born gay" due to fetal hormone imbalances. They seem to be a minority.
In 1973, the Rockefellers bullied the American Psychological Association into proclaiming homosexuality normal. Together with feminists (who believe heterosexuality is inherently oppressive), gays began to dismantle all heterosexual institutions: masculinity, femininity, marriage, the family, the boy scouts, sports, the military, and the education system.
Using their control of the media, the Rockefellers (i.e. Illuminati bankers) largely dictate our cultural sensibility. They are responsible for the obsession with pornography and the occult that pervades television, music videos and the Internet.
This state of arrested human development is characteristic of homosexuals who cannot form long-term relationships with the opposite sex. With straight women acting like men and vice-versa, with TV and schools promoting it, we are being turned into homosexuals.
SHOCK TACTICS
Gay activists talk about "normalizing" their gross-out sexuality and "de-sensitizing" straights by flaunting it. I was livid when I took my 10-year-old son to see Adam Sandler's movie Billy Madison and heard one teenage male youth in the film casually ask another: "Would you rather bone Pamela Anderson or a young Jack Nicholson?"
Just as Communists once conned do-gooders to think radicalism was chic, gays define trendy for gullible liberals today.
Gay and feminist activists think traditional morality was invented to perpetuate an unjust status quo. In fact, morality is the accumulated wisdom of mankind regarding what is healthy and fulfilling. Perversion is the deviation from what is healthy.
(Relic of bygone days?)
Heterosexual morality places sex in the context of love and/or marriage because it "humanizes" the sexual appetite. It ensures that the most profound and intimate physical act between two people expresses a commensurate emotional-spiritual bond. This is the only way sex can be truly satisfying for both men and women. It is also healthy for society because it provides for the natural and necessary outcome of sexual love, children.
With Hugh Hefner's help, Alfred Kinsey detached sex from love and procreation. He reduced it to titillation like an amusement park ride, or relief like urination.
Homosexuals seem to champion anonymous bathroom sex; some fornicate through a hole in a cubicle wall. Most have 10s -100s of partners each year. In less extreme form, this is the model heterosexuals have adopted. Recently a social columnist enviously described straight couples she knows who have just broken up: "they're out partying, having the time and the sex, it seems of their lives."
In conclusion, the "sexual revolution" was really a triumph of perverse homosexual norms and values. The gay-feminist agenda is to redefine healthy as pathological and vice-versa and they have succeeded.
In forty short years, almost all sexual constraints have dissolved and heterosexual society is reeling. The cultural and social breakdown will only get worse. We need a counterrevolution.
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First Comment by Jude:
The corporate sexual revolutionaries worked in the certain knowledge that there's nothing human beings are more insecure about than sex. As C.S Lewis wrote many years ago, many men engage in extra-marital shenanigans, not out of overwhelming desire, but in order to reassure themselves of their virility, modernity, or whatever. In my experience, the most avid bed-hoppers among men are rarely the ones most appreciative of women - even on the physical level. Instead, they tend to have pronounced narcissistic personality traits.
This ties in with something else Lewis said: the lascivious man thinks of women's bodies, the lascivious woman thinks of her own. The Playboy style stud has a feminine personality when it comes to sex - he's thinking primarily of his own starring role as Don Juan.The most promiscuous (in the heterosexual sense) guy I ever knew outed himself to his friends as bisexual on a drunken night out. Hefner himself admitted to engaging in homosexual swinging.
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Feminists are not 'pro-women', they are anti-family, anti-truth, and anti-freedom.
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I like what Matt Walsh said about it on facebook.
Hugh Hefner died last night. I'm sorry he's dead. I'm sorry for his family. But mostly I'm sorry for the incredible damage he did to society as one of the pioneers of the sexual revolution and a driving force behind our cultural decay.
It's unfortunate that we must point out the fact that Hefner was a pornographer and a pimp. That his life's work was to amass a collection of desperate women who were willing to be used and exploited. But we must tell this truth in order to combat the untruths that people are now saying about him.
We live in a country where men like Hefner are immediately canonized upon death. I've seen Hefner described as a "hero" and a "role model." These are lies, and we must call them lies. The fact that Hefner is dead does not change the fact that he was a peddler of filth. If a man wishes to be remembered as virtuous and decent, he must live virtuously and decently. We don't become virtuous and decent when we die, as if death itself washes away every bad thing we've done. Quite the opposite, actually. Death is when we reckon with the bad things.
I've been assured that Hefner is "in a better place" now. I realize this is just a thing we say about all dead people, no matter who they are and what they did. And indeed it's possible that Hefner repented before death and has now entered the Better Place. But to confidently state as fact that a pornographer is in Heaven is arrogant and dangerous. Pray that God has mercy on him, but do not run around declaring that a man who spent his life having orgies and taking pictures of naked women must necessarily be reaping eternal rewards.
Let's try to be serious for a change. Let's treat the death of a man like Hefner with somber honesty. It is always sad when someone dies. It is even sadder when a corrupt and decadent man dies. We may have hope that a man of great faith and goodness is in Heaven. We may have the same hope for the corrupt man, but it is a slimmer hope. So, we simply trust in the mercy and justice of God, knowing that He will deliver us all to the destinations we have chosen. And, if we must learn anything from Hefner's life, it's that a life of selfish pleasure seems so pointless once it's over. That is the great lesson he taught us.
May God have mercy on him and all sinners. Amen.
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He was a hedonist. There are more serious sins, probably committed by people in your own ward who quite truthfully pass their temple recommend interviews with flying colors.
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A few years ago (5-6, or so), Hefner had a minor stroke or some other diseased onslaught, and said he was going to reform his life as a result . . . undoubtedly caused by the fear of the "undiscovered country" of imminent death, and the sense that "a life of selfish pleasure seems so pointless once it's over".
This apparently didn't last long and seemed to dissipate with his recovery. Too bad he didn't stick to this resolution.
Maybe Bill Cosby, a Hefner devotee, will have enough time to begin to turn his life around before he's "snatched up by the gray grim reaper, across the broad highway".
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It's one thing being a hedonist in your personal life style. It's another thing entirely to draw a goodly portion of your society in the same debauched direction.Original_Intent wrote: ↑September 28th, 2017, 10:12 pm He was a hedonist. There are more serious sins, probably committed by people in your own ward who quite truthfully pass their temple recommend interviews with flying colors.
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I wonder, and I hope.
I wonder what life is like for him now. I wonder if he will accept the gospel. I wonder how difficult repentance will be if he does accept the gospel.
I hope he does accept the gospel. I hope he repents. And I hope to one day see the wonderful fruits he brings forth after converting and repenting, as he follows the path of Paul or Alma Jr. and works to make amends and positively influence many of the people he negatively influenced.
I wonder what life is like for him now. I wonder if he will accept the gospel. I wonder how difficult repentance will be if he does accept the gospel.
I hope he does accept the gospel. I hope he repents. And I hope to one day see the wonderful fruits he brings forth after converting and repenting, as he follows the path of Paul or Alma Jr. and works to make amends and positively influence many of the people he negatively influenced.
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My first thoughts were: (1) what a sad way to have lived life & (2) I wouldn't want to be in his shoes facing the judgement of God and realizing how he wasted his life and promoted so much evil.
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It is one thing to have a private personal weakness and struggle to overcome it.Original_Intent wrote: ↑September 28th, 2017, 10:12 pm He was a hedonist. There are more serious sins, probably committed by people in your own ward who quite truthfully pass their temple recommend interviews with flying colors.
It is quite another to not only publically glory in a particular sin, but also establish a world-wide institution that promotes, distributes, and seeks to legitimize it.
Remember how Phinehas of the OT responded to pornography?
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That's a simple answer: They're screaming hate about him.
Of course, that's quite a difference from the position that many took while he was alive and was very involved in financing political notions which they shared. While "Hef" was supporting feminist agendas, he was a "sexual liberator" and a "social reformer" for those on the left. Now that he's no longer financing what they want, they're happy to say how much they hate him.
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Maybe the NFL could take a knee for Hef.skmo wrote: ↑September 29th, 2017, 11:38 amThat's a simple answer: They're screaming hate about him.
Of course, that's quite a difference from the position that many took while he was alive and was very involved in financing political notions which they shared. While "Hef" was supporting feminist agendas, he was a "sexual liberator" and a "social reformer" for those on the left. Now that he's no longer financing what they want, they're happy to say how much they hate him.