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Some LDS women are too picky, they are raised that way. I see the teenagers and young adults in my ward that drive older cars they dont ever seem to be talking to any girls, the rich mama's boys always have them piling out of their nice flashy cars or brand new jacked up trucks.

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gkearney wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:26 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
I don’t mean this to be flip but maybe she has too many condition to the point no man will ever measure up. There was only one perfect man and he is not available.
It's true. I've been happily married for ten years now. 8-)

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brianj wrote: September 28th, 2017, 10:34 pm Newgirl, I just did a brief search and found the Festinord young single adult conference in Scandinavia, https://www.festinord.org/

You mentioned that you are 33 so you aren't eligible to attend, but I would highly recommend going to their contact page and filling out the form. Tell them that you are 33 so you can't attend then ask if they can point you to groups or activities for single Saints your age.

If you haven't already, I would also suggest asking your Bishop of Stake President. I could tell you about single adult groups in and near Salt Lake City or Seattle, but not Stockholm or wherever else in Sweden you may be.
Thanks brianj. I will look into this.
I don't know how to ask the bishop, but yes he might know if there are events. I'm just a bit nervous to talk about it I guess.

I will admit I'm a bit overweight, like someone said it might be an obstacle. So I'll loose the weight. Other than that I think I look ok. Just gotta keep my faith up and be strong. I've been praying my family finds Jesus but it doesn't seem to happen...that woulld make life easier.

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The app "Mutual" seems promising(hasn't been launched for android yet)! We should have more of these apps/registers of ppl.

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iWriteStuff wrote: September 29th, 2017, 10:12 am
gkearney wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:26 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
I don’t mean this to be flip but maybe she has too many condition to the point no man will ever measure up. There was only one perfect man and he is not available.
It's true. I've been happily married for ten years now. 8-)

Go to Marc's humble thread. You belong there. 8-)

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Spaced_Out wrote: September 29th, 2017, 7:16 am
gkearney wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:09 am
Matchmaker wrote: September 29th, 2017, 3:19 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 28th, 2017, 11:40 pm This is not a unique problem. My beautiful, tall, slim, fit, healthy, abundantly financially secure daughter has given up on finding an LDS husband to her liking.
Heavenly Father must be preparing a special man for her right now. She sounds like a wonderful woman. It's only a matter of time before she meets him. As long as she doesn't give up hope and faith in the Lord, she'll find him.
Elizabeth, see needs to go over to Perth when men, even in the church out number women by a wide margin.
We need to import the men from the west to East Coast Australia, if what you say is true. I have only ever been to one sacrament meeting in Perth, I was in transit to Port Headland for work. I don't remember seeing a gender disparity outside of the normal LDS demographic, but it was not on my mind at the time. I do remember the SS teacher was female and there was discussion that it would soon become illegal to do marriages in LDS temples due to equality for marriage requirements.
How is the NO vote going in Perth?....

I would anticipate the yes side will win even in WA which is the most conservative of the States.

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Fiannan wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:15 am
Spaced_Out wrote: September 29th, 2017, 3:56 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 28th, 2017, 11:40 pm This is not a unique problem. My beautiful, tall, slim, fit, healthy, abundantly financially secure daughter has given up on finding an LDS husband to her liking.
In the ward I am in there is like 8 female active YSA one partially active male. My two YSA daughters have never been on any date or had any male friend in the church, the youngest one is now finishing her degree this year. They long ago gave up looking for any male partners/friends/dates etc just move on with their lives. The Bishop now has the missionaries teaching the YSA Sunday school class and they don't even attend the investigators class, but most of the YSA are placed into primary and there is no functioning YSA group.
I had a friend who went through a divorce. He was extremely devout but innactive. He was in his 30s and moved to Utah. He was generally going on dates with females 19 - 25, some return missionaries and he only dated stunning women. He said he averaged 6 dates a week and no, he just had a low-paying working-class job. And this was over a decade ago.

A message to LDS women: Unless your guy is into gay porn just ignore it. Unless your guy drinks hard alcohol and smokes ignore the coffee and energy drinks. Unless your guy refuses to work or refuses to have children then adapt. You are luckier than you can imagine. Ingratitude is one of the worse sins there is.
Seriously?? Women, don't lower your standards because some people have a low opinion of the men who are available in the dating pool. There are good ones to be had.

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Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)

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Crackers wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:15 pm
Fiannan wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:15 am
Spaced_Out wrote: September 29th, 2017, 3:56 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 28th, 2017, 11:40 pm This is not a unique problem. My beautiful, tall, slim, fit, healthy, abundantly financially secure daughter has given up on finding an LDS husband to her liking.
In the ward I am in there is like 8 female active YSA one partially active male. My two YSA daughters have never been on any date or had any male friend in the church, the youngest one is now finishing her degree this year. They long ago gave up looking for any male partners/friends/dates etc just move on with their lives. The Bishop now has the missionaries teaching the YSA Sunday school class and they don't even attend the investigators class, but most of the YSA are placed into primary and there is no functioning YSA group.
I had a friend who went through a divorce. He was extremely devout but innactive. He was in his 30s and moved to Utah. He was generally going on dates with females 19 - 25, some return missionaries and he only dated stunning women. He said he averaged 6 dates a week and no, he just had a low-paying working-class job. And this was over a decade ago.

A message to LDS women: Unless your guy is into gay porn just ignore it. Unless your guy drinks hard alcohol and smokes ignore the coffee and energy drinks. Unless your guy refuses to work or refuses to have children then adapt. You are luckier than you can imagine. Ingratitude is one of the worse sins there is.
Seriously?? Women, don't lower your standards because some people have a low opinion of the men who are available in the dating pool. There are good ones to be had.
At the same time young women should not erect such high standards that no one could ever meet them. My youngest son has a hard time getting LDS girls to pay much attention to him? He is worthy hold a recommend and everything. The problem? He a chief petty officer in the Navy so no mission and no fancy college degree.

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No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
BeNotDeceived wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:50 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)

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Better to be happy single than to lower your standards and be miserable married.
gkearney wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:26 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
I don’t mean this to be flip but maybe she has too many condition to the point no man will ever measure up. There was only one perfect man and he is not available.

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Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
BeNotDeceived wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:50 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)
Racism is OK on LDSFF now?

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If a LDS young single female cannot find a LDS priesthood holder that can provide the things she needs she will marry outside the Church. I see more and more girls marrying the rich non members and coming to Church alone. These young folks are not worried about eternal families, they are worried about big houses, big boats, and a bank account filled with cash.

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Mormon women breakdown.

Ages 18 - 22: Must be return missionary with good earning potential.

23 - 26: Must have good degree and hopefully was return missionary.

27 - 31: Must have job and active in Church

32 - 36: Hope he is a member.

37 - : Alive.

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Fiannan wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:37 pm Mormon women breakdown.

Ages 18 - 22: Must be return missionary with good earning potential.

23 - 26: Must have good degree and hopefully was return missionary.

27 - 31: Must have job and active in Church

32 - 36: Hope he is a member.

37 - : Alive.
I had to laugh at this one!

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See the latest Ensign magazine.

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Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:13 pm Better to be happy single than to lower your standards and be miserable married.
Very true marriage is a higher law if if one can't be happy single being married could very well be a lot worse.

I get the feeling that the person who started this thread is looking to get married to get out of a bad situation, but not so much focused on the implications of marriage. But it is still the right things to do... Develop one's talents get a good job and move oneself to a place where one is independent then it is much easier to focus on the real priorities in life and also reduce the potential to make a very serious mistake.

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Silver wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:19 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
BeNotDeceived wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:50 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)
Racism is OK on LDSFF now?
Yes, but it is not raciest it is more culture, having common outlook on life and heritage which is a very different discussion.

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gkearney wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:51 pm
Crackers wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:15 pm
Fiannan wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:15 am
Spaced_Out wrote: September 29th, 2017, 3:56 am In the ward I am in there is like 8 female active YSA one partially active male. My two YSA daughters have never been on any date or had any male friend in the church, the youngest one is now finishing her degree this year. They long ago gave up looking for any male partners/friends/dates etc just move on with their lives. The Bishop now has the missionaries teaching the YSA Sunday school class and they don't even attend the investigators class, but most of the YSA are placed into primary and there is no functioning YSA group.
I had a friend who went through a divorce. He was extremely devout but innactive. He was in his 30s and moved to Utah. He was generally going on dates with females 19 - 25, some return missionaries and he only dated stunning women. He said he averaged 6 dates a week and no, he just had a low-paying working-class job. And this was over a decade ago.

A message to LDS women: Unless your guy is into gay porn just ignore it. Unless your guy drinks hard alcohol and smokes ignore the coffee and energy drinks. Unless your guy refuses to work or refuses to have children then adapt. You are luckier than you can imagine. Ingratitude is one of the worse sins there is.
Seriously?? Women, don't lower your standards because some people have a low opinion of the men who are available in the dating pool. There are good ones to be had.
At the same time young women should not erect such high standards that no one could ever meet them. My youngest son has a hard time getting LDS girls to pay much attention to him? He is worthy hold a recommend and everything. The problem? He a chief petty officer in the Navy so no mission and no fancy college degree.
Could be they are not interested in having a husband that can be shipped off and killed in the newest gadiantan cause.

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Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
You're always saying how people should be allowed to associate with their own race. What if your daughter fell in love with a black man and wanted to marry him? Does she have that right, too?

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Spaced_Out wrote: September 30th, 2017, 5:29 am
Silver wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:19 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
BeNotDeceived wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:50 pm

Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)
Racism is OK on LDSFF now?
Yes, but it is not raciest it is more culture, having common outlook on life and heritage which is a very different discussion.
Even though Elizabeth, the racist, thanked you for your post, your point is not what she wrote. A 4th generation Chinese-Australian would share a "common outlook on life and heritage" yet still appear Chinese which would make him a non-starter in the eyes of Elizabeth, the racist.

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Silver wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:19 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
BeNotDeceived wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:50 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)
Racism is OK on LDSFF now?
What triggered that accusation Silver?

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Fiannan wrote: September 29th, 2017, 9:15 am
Spaced_Out wrote: September 29th, 2017, 3:56 am
Elizabeth wrote: September 28th, 2017, 11:40 pm This is not a unique problem. My beautiful, tall, slim, fit, healthy, abundantly financially secure daughter has given up on finding an LDS husband to her liking.
In the ward I am in there is like 8 female active YSA one partially active male. My two YSA daughters have never been on any date or had any male friend in the church, the youngest one is now finishing her degree this year. They long ago gave up looking for any male partners/friends/dates etc just move on with their lives. The Bishop now has the missionaries teaching the YSA Sunday school class and they don't even attend the investigators class, but most of the YSA are placed into primary and there is no functioning YSA group.
I had a friend who went through a divorce. He was extremely devout but innactive. He was in his 30s and moved to Utah. He was generally going on dates with females 19 - 25, some return missionaries and he only dated stunning women. He said he averaged 6 dates a week and no, he just had a low-paying working-class job. And this was over a decade ago.

A message to LDS women: Unless your guy is into gay porn just ignore it. Unless your guy drinks hard alcohol and smokes ignore the coffee and energy drinks. Unless your guy refuses to work or refuses to have children then adapt. You are luckier than you can imagine. Ingratitude is one of the worse sins there is.
Setting standards for the person you marry is essential to assure a good marriage but what the standards are is what will make the difference. For example, requiring that your future spouse be respectful is absolutely necessary, I believe, if you intend to build a happy marriage that will last. I also believe it's okay to have other requirements, like being physically fit or excelling in romance. You are trying to find someone who you personally can live happily with.

The key is, whatever standards you set for your spouse, you need to be working on achieving yourself. You shouldn't be expecting a person to bring something into your life that you yourself aren't working for. But if you are hoping for someone to add to what you already have, then you are more likely to find the right person.

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Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.

I find this remark troubling in the extreme. I would hope that personal traits such as loyalty, kindness, and faith would play a more important role than ethnicity. Particularly give that every living person on the planet has some African background.

Under this condition a worthy Asian young man, is disqualified even if his family had lived in Australia for many generations such a the Japanese community in Brome has (150+ Years). Also what would be your response if your daughter came home with a young man who was aboriginal Australian?

I was going to suggest that perhaps I should introduce my son to your daughter but given the remarks above I must reconsider should she share her mother’s views.

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Silver wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:19 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 11:08 pm No, that is not even a consideration, she has all the financial resources she will ever need.
No Negro or Asian ancestry is a must.
BeNotDeceived wrote: September 29th, 2017, 6:50 pm
Elizabeth wrote: September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am I have been to LDS single activities myself in Perth as well as in Brisbane, Sydney, Britain and America, all seemed much the same.

My daughter is particular, the men who interest her must be healthy, fit, tall and slim... as well as other characteristics.
Minimum acceptable characteristics include:

The use of two commas to specify annual income. 8-)
Racism is OK on LDSFF now?

Preferences are not racism. Taste is not racism.
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