Senate Stunner: Orrin Hatch Passionately Defends Medical Marijuana
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Senate Stunner: Orrin Hatch Passionately Defends Medical Marijuana
In a surprising move, US Sen. Orrin Hatch, a conservative Utah Republican and longtime cannabis prohibitionist, today introduced a bill to encourage more research into the effectiveness of medical cannabis.
Hatch didn’t just quietly introduce the bill, though. Rather, he took to the Senate floor and gave a passionate speech in defense of the use of medical marijuana, saying the plant “has the potential to help millions of Americans,” and “can truly change people’s lives for the better.”
“It’s high time to address research into medical marijuana,” he added. “Our country has experimented with a variety of state solutions without properly delving into the weeds on the effectiveness, safety, dosing, administration, and quality of medical marijuana. All the while, the federal government strains to enforce regulations that sometimes do more harm than good. To be blunt, we need to remove the administrative barriers preventing legitimate research into medical marijuana, which is why I’ve decided to roll out the MEDS Act.”
What the MEDS Bill Would Do
The Marijuana Effective Drug Study Act of 2017 (MEDS Act) debuts with four other co-sponsors, including Sens. Brian Schatz (D-HI), Chris Coons (D-DE), Cory Gardner (R-CO), and Thom Tillis (R-NC).
The MEDS bill would:
•Encourage more research on the potential medical uses of marijuana by streamlining the research registration process, without imposing a scheduling determination on the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).
•Make marijuana more available for legitimate scientific and medical research and the commercial production of any FDA-approved drugs derived from marijuana.
•Retain important checks to protect against diversion or abuse of the controlled marijuana substances.
•Require the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to develop and publish recommendations for good manufacturing practices for growing and producing marijuana for research.
•Require the attorney general to increase the national marijuana quota in a timely manner to meet the changing medical, scientific, and industrial needs for marijuana.
•Codify the administration’s decision to terminate the Public Health Service and its review of proposals for medical research on marijuana.
•Prevent the Department of Health and Human Services from instituting any other marijuana-specific protocol reviews, other than the voluntary review that a researcher can request from National Institutes of Health (NIH) in order to access the expedited DEA registration process.
A Movement Moment
Hatch’s statement on the Senate floor today represented one of the more remarkable moments in recent medical marijuana history. A longtime Republican icon, Hatch represents one of the nation’s most culturally conservative states. During his speech, he reiterated that he remains “strongly against the recreational use of marijuana,” and is “concerned about the cottage industry springing up” around the adult use of cannabis.
Nevertheless, he said, “we would be remiss if we threw out the baby with the bathwater.”
“It doesn’t take a sweeping overhaul of Obamacare” to substantially improve America’s healthcare, Hatch said, speaking of the medical potential of cannabis-based treatments. “Sometimes even small things can have big impacts on people’s lives.”
RELATED STORY
Utah Lawmakers Turn Timid on Medical Marijuana Plans
Why Hatch? Why Now?
What brought about the conservative senator’s changed outlook? He left a few clues in his floor speech. It sounds as though personal stories, the evidence of close friends, and America’s opioid crisis had a profound effect on his thinking around the issue.
Hatch included a reference to “my friend” who found him or herself taking 17 pills a day, including powerful opioids. That friend was able to find relief, and leave behind the pills, Hatch said, thanks to medical cannabis.
The opioid crisis clearly had an effect. “In Utah, and across the nation, opioid abuse continues to ravage hard-working families,” Hatch said. “Many are seeking non-narcotic alternatives,” including medical cannabis. “After deliberative thought,” he said, “I’ve determined that it’s an alternative worth pursuing.”
That statement is something close to stunning. Just a few months ago many political leaders dismissed out-of-hand the notion that cannabis could be a helpful tool in combatting America’s opioid crisis.
Hatch didn’t just quietly introduce the bill, though. Rather, he took to the Senate floor and gave a passionate speech in defense of the use of medical marijuana, saying the plant “has the potential to help millions of Americans,” and “can truly change people’s lives for the better.”
“It’s high time to address research into medical marijuana,” he added. “Our country has experimented with a variety of state solutions without properly delving into the weeds on the effectiveness, safety, dosing, administration, and quality of medical marijuana. All the while, the federal government strains to enforce regulations that sometimes do more harm than good. To be blunt, we need to remove the administrative barriers preventing legitimate research into medical marijuana, which is why I’ve decided to roll out the MEDS Act.”
What the MEDS Bill Would Do
The Marijuana Effective Drug Study Act of 2017 (MEDS Act) debuts with four other co-sponsors, including Sens. Brian Schatz (D-HI), Chris Coons (D-DE), Cory Gardner (R-CO), and Thom Tillis (R-NC).
The MEDS bill would:
•Encourage more research on the potential medical uses of marijuana by streamlining the research registration process, without imposing a scheduling determination on the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).
•Make marijuana more available for legitimate scientific and medical research and the commercial production of any FDA-approved drugs derived from marijuana.
•Retain important checks to protect against diversion or abuse of the controlled marijuana substances.
•Require the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to develop and publish recommendations for good manufacturing practices for growing and producing marijuana for research.
•Require the attorney general to increase the national marijuana quota in a timely manner to meet the changing medical, scientific, and industrial needs for marijuana.
•Codify the administration’s decision to terminate the Public Health Service and its review of proposals for medical research on marijuana.
•Prevent the Department of Health and Human Services from instituting any other marijuana-specific protocol reviews, other than the voluntary review that a researcher can request from National Institutes of Health (NIH) in order to access the expedited DEA registration process.
A Movement Moment
Hatch’s statement on the Senate floor today represented one of the more remarkable moments in recent medical marijuana history. A longtime Republican icon, Hatch represents one of the nation’s most culturally conservative states. During his speech, he reiterated that he remains “strongly against the recreational use of marijuana,” and is “concerned about the cottage industry springing up” around the adult use of cannabis.
Nevertheless, he said, “we would be remiss if we threw out the baby with the bathwater.”
“It doesn’t take a sweeping overhaul of Obamacare” to substantially improve America’s healthcare, Hatch said, speaking of the medical potential of cannabis-based treatments. “Sometimes even small things can have big impacts on people’s lives.”
RELATED STORY
Utah Lawmakers Turn Timid on Medical Marijuana Plans
Why Hatch? Why Now?
What brought about the conservative senator’s changed outlook? He left a few clues in his floor speech. It sounds as though personal stories, the evidence of close friends, and America’s opioid crisis had a profound effect on his thinking around the issue.
Hatch included a reference to “my friend” who found him or herself taking 17 pills a day, including powerful opioids. That friend was able to find relief, and leave behind the pills, Hatch said, thanks to medical cannabis.
The opioid crisis clearly had an effect. “In Utah, and across the nation, opioid abuse continues to ravage hard-working families,” Hatch said. “Many are seeking non-narcotic alternatives,” including medical cannabis. “After deliberative thought,” he said, “I’ve determined that it’s an alternative worth pursuing.”
That statement is something close to stunning. Just a few months ago many political leaders dismissed out-of-hand the notion that cannabis could be a helpful tool in combatting America’s opioid crisis.
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Nearly 3 in 4 Utah Voters Support Medical Marijuana, Survey Finds
Utah’s neighbors to the west, south, and east all have legal, regulated cannabis markets for both medical and adult use. Now a new poll suggests that Utah voters want to legal medical marijuana in their state, too.
The Utah Patients Coalition survey, published Monday, found that of 402 Utah voters polled, 73% support a medical cannabis ballot initiative. Only about 20% were opposed, and 7% remain undecided.
Voters from nearly all demographic groups expressed support for medical marijuana, the survey found, included 64% of Republican voters and 63% of active voters who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Utah’s neighbors to the west, south, and east all have legal, regulated cannabis markets for both medical and adult use. Now a new poll suggests that Utah voters want to legal medical marijuana in their state, too.
The Utah Patients Coalition survey, published Monday, found that of 402 Utah voters polled, 73% support a medical cannabis ballot initiative. Only about 20% were opposed, and 7% remain undecided.
Voters from nearly all demographic groups expressed support for medical marijuana, the survey found, included 64% of Republican voters and 63% of active voters who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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The downside is what hatch wants to do does not de-criminalize medical use.
Really, in many ways what he is proposing strengthens the case that things need to be approved through the FDA and big pharma will extract some drug that will have all kinds of side effects, be expensive and line their pockets.
Government should just get out of the way on this. Hatch may have done a 180, but it is because he sees where public sentiment lies and so he wants to strengthen government as he always does.
Really, in many ways what he is proposing strengthens the case that things need to be approved through the FDA and big pharma will extract some drug that will have all kinds of side effects, be expensive and line their pockets.
Government should just get out of the way on this. Hatch may have done a 180, but it is because he sees where public sentiment lies and so he wants to strengthen government as he always does.
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I agree with original intent. Hatch has always been a big government supporter and doesn't have an unpolitically-motivated thought in his head. Just decriminalize and back off, senator.
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3 out of 4 voters absolutely do NOT support recreational drug use or marijuana. Whoever quoted that is using fake statistics. People lie on statistics just like they lie in voting. So if I compared this to the 18 million fake votes then a huge chunk of that would be the fakes posing as sheep to make other sheep think it's OK. It's not OK because people are out there lying trying to twist your values and what people stand for. Last I checked half the state was still LDS. And most LDS have been taught since birth to avoid any substance that enslaves you.DEEPER storm wrote: ↑September 15th, 2017, 10:54 pm Nearly 3 in 4 Utah Voters Support Medical Marijuana, Survey Finds
Utah’s neighbors to the west, south, and east all have legal, regulated cannabis markets for both medical and adult use. Now a new poll suggests that Utah voters want to legal medical marijuana in their state, too.
The Utah Patients Coalition survey, published Monday, found that of 402 Utah voters polled, 73% support a medical cannabis ballot initiative. Only about 20% were opposed, and 7% remain undecided.
Voters from nearly all demographic groups expressed support for medical marijuana, the survey found, included 64% of Republican voters and 63% of active voters who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Captivity? Who would vote to be a slave? Would you raise your hand if you want to be in bondage? (Awaken to that awful state you are in...)
Throwing away standards and morality absolutely is and does lead to captivity. Captivity = slavery. Slavery = loss of freedom.
I would point out the obvious. Bear in mind there are other sources that support this. This is only the first one I grabbed among dozens;
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/ ... -marijuana
(From the above link):
-Long-term studies of drug use patterns show that most high school students who use other illegal drugs have tried marijuana first.
-...and 25 to 50 percent of those who use it every day become addicted.
-People at high risk of using drugs may use marijuana first because it is easy to get
-Someone who is using marijuana is likely to be in contact with other users and sellers of other drugs, increasing the risk of being encouraged or tempted to try them
-Exposure to marijuana may affect the brain ( I would argue a step further that it absolutely DOES affect the brain as I've met people with memory problems who used marijauna habitually.) (WHO WOULD VOTE TO HAVE MEMORY PROBLEMS RAISE YOUR HAND?)
If you become in bondage then you are a slave. Plain and simple. So who wants to be a drug slave?
(Also please get on board to oppose microchipping people as they are trying to start that now too and they will try to start it before people know what's going and get organized enough to oppose it.)
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Recreational vs medical. Deeper said medical. You argue that 3/4 people don't support recreational. 2 very different things.gardener4life wrote: ↑September 16th, 2017, 2:35 am3 out of 4 voters absolutely do NOT support recreational drug use or marijuana. Whoever quoted that is using fake statistics. People lie on statistics just like they lie in voting. So if I compared this to the 18 million fake votes then a huge chunk of that would be the fakes posing as sheep to make other sheep think it's OK. It's not OK because people are out there lying trying to twist your values and what people stand for. Last I checked half the state was still LDS. And most LDS have been taught since birth to avoid any substance that enslaves you.DEEPER storm wrote: ↑September 15th, 2017, 10:54 pm Nearly 3 in 4 Utah Voters Support Medical Marijuana, Survey Finds
Utah’s neighbors to the west, south, and east all have legal, regulated cannabis markets for both medical and adult use. Now a new poll suggests that Utah voters want to legal medical marijuana in their state, too.
The Utah Patients Coalition survey, published Monday, found that of 402 Utah voters polled, 73% support a medical cannabis ballot initiative. Only about 20% were opposed, and 7% remain undecided.
Voters from nearly all demographic groups expressed support for medical marijuana, the survey found, included 64% of Republican voters and 63% of active voters who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Captivity? Who would vote to be a slave? Would you raise your hand if you want to be in bondage? (Awaken to that awful state you are in...)
Throwing away standards and morality absolutely is and does lead to captivity. Captivity = slavery. Slavery = loss of freedom.
I would point out the obvious. Bear in mind there are other sources that support this. This is only the first one I grabbed among dozens;
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/ ... -marijuana
(From the above link):
-Long-term studies of drug use patterns show that most high school students who use other illegal drugs have tried marijuana first.
-...and 25 to 50 percent of those who use it every day become addicted.
-People at high risk of using drugs may use marijuana first because it is easy to get
-Someone who is using marijuana is likely to be in contact with other users and sellers of other drugs, increasing the risk of being encouraged or tempted to try them
-Exposure to marijuana may affect the brain ( I would argue a step further that it absolutely DOES affect the brain as I've met people with memory problems who used marijauna habitually.) (WHO WOULD VOTE TO HAVE MEMORY PROBLEMS RAISE YOUR HAND?)
If you become in bondage then you are a slave. Plain and simple. So who wants to be a drug slave?
(Also please get on board to oppose microchipping people as they are trying to start that now too and they will try to start it before people know what's going and get organized enough to oppose it.)
Who wants to be a drug slave? Who wants to not have freedoms?
People turn to drugs to deal with pain. Do you want the only option to deal with pain being one that is dictated to you by someone who is using unrighteous dominion through government?
Pain is a very general word. Kids are no longer taught how to deal with pain mental or physical anymore they are just pampered and coddled.
Most kids that try drugs as you stated do so because of bad parents Who haven't taught them how to find happiness.
Your right that abuse of a drug has an effect on people. A drug used incorrectly is always going to be a problem. Just like guns used incorrectly. That doesn't mean we should ban all guns or that guns are evil. Just as it doesn't mean the drug is evil and should be banned either.
It means parents need to take more responsibility in teaching their kids instead of leaving their education to socialist public schools who are controlled by evil elites and media who is controlled by evil elites as well. You say awake. I'm awake. Are you?
The word of wisdom teaches that god made the herbs for us.
God is the one who created marijuana. It's has wonderful medical property's if used correctly. And negative property's if abused or used incorrectly.
Our body's have endocannabinoid receptors. Mothers breast milk has cannabinoids in it naturally produced by the mother. So from birth we are wired to receive cannabinoids and have it effect us in a good way.
Can that be abused overloaded? Can you over eat? Get too much sleep? Drink too much water?
From my perspective you need to awake. Do some more research. It's a wonderful plant. Cbd oil Cured my sons autism.
And I'm 100% against recreational use of marijuana.
And I'm 100% for the freedoms to grow it in my own garden.
I believe it's unrighteous dominion to through government dictate what another person can and can't do with a plant god created.
And I believe as the scriptures say in d&c 88:76-82 that when we have become informed to warn our neighbors of pitfalls. If we see them doing something wrong we should reach out to them.
It turns into our sins when we take it upon ourselfs to control them through force of government.
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I've heard of Relief Society activities where they set off the smoke detectors from smoking too much weed in the chapel (true story). I guess Orin says that's Party of Heavenly Father's Plan...
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Not ideal, since constitutionally this isn't supposed to be a federal thing. But it beats what we have now. At least it's a move to consider using the power they shouldn't possess in a way that causes slightly less obstruction to legitimate uses of a plant to cure people of debilitating and deadly illness.
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Man, isn't our government fantastic?
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Man, isn't our government fantastic?
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What would Brother Brigham say?
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Orin Hatch is probably smoking it every day he is out of Utah.DEEPER storm wrote: ↑September 15th, 2017, 10:49 pm In a surprising move, US Sen. Orrin Hatch, a conservative Utah Republican and longtime cannabis prohibitionist, today introduced a bill to encourage more research into the effectiveness of medical cannabis.
Hatch didn’t just quietly introduce the bill, though. Rather, he took to the Senate floor and gave a passionate speech in defense of the use of medical marijuana, saying the plant “has the potential to help millions of Americans,” and “can truly change people’s lives for the better.”
“It’s high time to address research into medical marijuana,” he added. “Our country has experimented with a variety of state solutions without properly delving into the weeds on the effectiveness, safety, dosing, administration, and quality of medical marijuana. All the while, the federal government strains to enforce regulations that sometimes do more harm than good. To be blunt, we need to remove the administrative barriers preventing legitimate research into medical marijuana, which is why I’ve decided to roll out the MEDS Act.”
What the MEDS Bill Would Do
The Marijuana Effective Drug Study Act of 2017 (MEDS Act) debuts with four other co-sponsors, including Sens. Brian Schatz (D-HI), Chris Coons (D-DE), Cory Gardner (R-CO), and Thom Tillis (R-NC).
The MEDS bill would:
•Encourage more research on the potential medical uses of marijuana by streamlining the research registration process, without imposing a scheduling determination on the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).
•Make marijuana more available for legitimate scientific and medical research and the commercial production of any FDA-approved drugs derived from marijuana.
•Retain important checks to protect against diversion or abuse of the controlled marijuana substances.
•Require the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to develop and publish recommendations for good manufacturing practices for growing and producing marijuana for research.
•Require the attorney general to increase the national marijuana quota in a timely manner to meet the changing medical, scientific, and industrial needs for marijuana.
•Codify the administration’s decision to terminate the Public Health Service and its review of proposals for medical research on marijuana.
•Prevent the Department of Health and Human Services from instituting any other marijuana-specific protocol reviews, other than the voluntary review that a researcher can request from National Institutes of Health (NIH) in order to access the expedited DEA registration process.
A Movement Moment
Hatch’s statement on the Senate floor today represented one of the more remarkable moments in recent medical marijuana history. A longtime Republican icon, Hatch represents one of the nation’s most culturally conservative states. During his speech, he reiterated that he remains “strongly against the recreational use of marijuana,” and is “concerned about the cottage industry springing up” around the adult use of cannabis.
Nevertheless, he said, “we would be remiss if we threw out the baby with the bathwater.”
“It doesn’t take a sweeping overhaul of Obamacare” to substantially improve America’s healthcare, Hatch said, speaking of the medical potential of cannabis-based treatments. “Sometimes even small things can have big impacts on people’s lives.”
RELATED STORY
Utah Lawmakers Turn Timid on Medical Marijuana Plans
Why Hatch? Why Now?
What brought about the conservative senator’s changed outlook? He left a few clues in his floor speech. It sounds as though personal stories, the evidence of close friends, and America’s opioid crisis had a profound effect on his thinking around the issue.
Hatch included a reference to “my friend” who found him or herself taking 17 pills a day, including powerful opioids. That friend was able to find relief, and leave behind the pills, Hatch said, thanks to medical cannabis.
The opioid crisis clearly had an effect. “In Utah, and across the nation, opioid abuse continues to ravage hard-working families,” Hatch said. “Many are seeking non-narcotic alternatives,” including medical cannabis. “After deliberative thought,” he said, “I’ve determined that it’s an alternative worth pursuing.”
That statement is something close to stunning. Just a few months ago many political leaders dismissed out-of-hand the notion that cannabis could be a helpful tool in combatting America’s opioid crisis.
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I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
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How many kids in your ward smoke?Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 17th, 2017, 11:55 pm I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
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Sounds like survival of the fittest not a tragedy at all.Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 17th, 2017, 11:55 pm I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
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My Dad uses the CBD oil to help him control severe pain and inflammation. It has helped him get off the terrible opioids that had him by the throat. It was hell on earth getting him off them. I am a big supporter of the oil. It has a place for those who suffer. I would take it over opioids any day of the week. It is not meant for recreational usage. It is for MEDICAL purposes. Youngsters smoking joints to get a high should NOT be tolerated any more than DUI drivers who drive impaired and risk theirs and others lives. They pose a terrible risk on the road and otherwise.
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No idea.Ezra wrote: ↑September 18th, 2017, 6:33 amHow many kids in your ward smoke?Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 17th, 2017, 11:55 pm I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
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I added emphasis to a discrepancy I find profoundly important.gardener4life wrote: ↑September 16th, 2017, 2:35 am3 out of 4 voters absolutely do NOT support recreational drug use or marijuana. Whoever quoted that is using fake statistics.DEEPER storm wrote: ↑September 15th, 2017, 10:54 pm Nearly 3 in 4 Utah Voters Support Medical Marijuana, Survey Finds
A claim cannot be made that MEDICAL drug use and RECREATIONAL drug use are the same.
I believe a majority of LDS people would oppose legalization of recreational marijuana. I am not in that group (well, I'm still not even LDS again yet, but you get my drift) but I have no problem with the voters in my state here voting to allow medical marijuana while legalizing it for medical purposes. I would decriminalize it completely with the idea that, like Brother Joseph said, we teach our people righteous principles and they govern themselves. However, I do believe that a majority of UT LDS people support the use of marijuana under the approval of a doctor for medical use.
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Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 18th, 2017, 10:03 pmNo idea.Ezra wrote: ↑September 18th, 2017, 6:33 am95%?Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 17th, 2017, 11:55 pm I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
How many kids in your ward smoke?
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It's not, because the unproductive need your money to support them. The Roman Empire lost its productive people, then resorted to foreign mercenaries for labor and military, then you probably have heard the rest. With today's modern technology and conditions, western nations will fall faster than Rome did.Ezra wrote: ↑September 18th, 2017, 8:43 amSounds like survival of the fittest not a tragedy at all.Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 17th, 2017, 11:55 pm I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
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That's an interesting take on it.Benjamin_LK wrote: ↑September 19th, 2017, 5:20 amIt's not, because the unproductive need your money to support them. The Roman Empire lost its productive people, then resorted to foreign mercenaries for labor and military, then you probably have heard the rest. With today's modern technology and conditions, western nations will fall faster than Rome did.Ezra wrote: ↑September 18th, 2017, 8:43 amSounds like survival of the fittest not a tragedy at all.Seek the Truth wrote: ↑September 17th, 2017, 11:55 pm I'm in a legal mj state and it is a disaster. Kids openly smoke weed in public, probably 95% of kids I run into smoke weed. It is a human tragedy.
You cannot ask for my taxes to pay for your schooling and then bake your brains out on a drug when you get out of school.
No way in the world.
I understand it to be that they voted themselves into a democracy from a republic. Then voted themselves into the poor house with public programs. We are already on that path.
drug abuse is caused by #1 bad parents #2 government over reach. Which both can be summarized as poor education.
Neither should be our problem but thanks to government over reach it is. When I say survival of the fittest It's in reference to if we had a correct system of government in place.
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The Utah Legislature has caved to church and political pressures and given lip service to proposed legalization. As a result, a group in Utah, called the Utah Patients Coalition, is pushing for voter approval of medicinal cannabis next year. It claims its polls show that 64 percent of Republican voters and 63 percent of active voters who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints support legalizing medicinal cannabis. It also claims its polls show that older voters in Utah support medical cannabis legalization at an even higher rate, that 75 percent of voters 50 and older are in favor of medical use. When chronic pain is brought into the equation, 72 percent of all respondents said they felt cannabis should be available for treatment.
I understand that legalizing medicinal cannabis does not ensure that there won’t be people taking advantage of the law, that there won’t be those who fake their way into a prescription.
But, given the fact that throughout recorded history there has not been one incident of a cannabis overdose, that there are no physically addictive properties attached to cannabis and that it is an affordable, efficient way for those suffering to find relief, it is time to reconsider the sham that has been prohibition.
It’s not only the compassionate thing to do, but the right thing to do.
I understand that legalizing medicinal cannabis does not ensure that there won’t be people taking advantage of the law, that there won’t be those who fake their way into a prescription.
But, given the fact that throughout recorded history there has not been one incident of a cannabis overdose, that there are no physically addictive properties attached to cannabis and that it is an affordable, efficient way for those suffering to find relief, it is time to reconsider the sham that has been prohibition.
It’s not only the compassionate thing to do, but the right thing to do.
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Petitioners with the Utah Patients Coalition must collect a minimum of 113,000 signatures in 26 of the state’s 29 senate districts by January to get the proposed Utah Medical Cannabis Act on the ballot.
https://www.utahpatients.org/
https://www.utahpatients.org/
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Re: Senate Stunner: Orrin Hatch Passionately Defends Medical Marijuana
While I assume you meant no other implications than exactly what you said there, as one who has suffered through opiate withdrawals from legally (albeit VERY generous and loose) obtained pills, I feel it incumbent to point out that this is NOT the same thing as saying "cannabis is not addictive." If observing elements of reproductive activities on a phosphor screen can be addictive, certainly anything with a chemical reaction in humans can be as well.DEEPER storm wrote: ↑September 19th, 2017, 9:21 am ...that there are no physically addictive properties attached to cannabis...