Raised without gender?

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Gage wrote: July 31st, 2017, 9:10 am I dont care what kind of agenda the media tries to push or what kind of agenda a handful of lesbians march too, a woman- most women, still want a "manly man" that takes care of them, that takes the lead and takes control and takes care of them.
Sadly such men are becoming a rare breed.

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Gage wrote: July 31st, 2017, 9:10 am I dont care what kind of agenda the media tries to push or what kind of agenda a handful of lesbians march too, a woman- most women, still want a "manly man" that takes care of them, that takes the lead and takes control and takes care of them.
Look at who is getting the dates and you'll increasingly find guys in skinny jeans, with legs skinnier than women, who have long hair and very lotioned skin.

I do believe that on some deep level women want a masculine man who will take care of them and take the lead, but they reject those men. They go after prissy girly men then read things like Fifty Shades to indulge the fantasy of what their nature really craves.

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I just finished a long miserable conversation with family members who subscribe to this lifestyle.
It brings nothing but heart ache and pain.
They think they are free, but they have no agency. Their choices are so limited and their lives are falling apart.
I hate that this is being glorified.

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Yahtzee wrote: August 1st, 2017, 2:51 am I just finished a long miserable conversation with family members who subscribe to this lifestyle.
It brings nothing but heart ache and pain.
They think they are free, but they have no agency. Their choices are so limited and their lives are falling apart.
I hate that this is being glorified.
I have never known anyone who was happy who lived like that, they're all miserable and very unsuccessful (their love of socialism makes them sit around all day whining that they need money but not willing to work for it).
I've never met a happy lesbian.
Social Justice is infecting all sorts of things, women my age are very mean and sour.
Ironic since as they are nearing 30 they begin to get slightly nervous if still single and if they want kids but they get angrier and more bitter so, yeah doesn't make me want to get out there.
Not that I am much of a catch (and I have the nerve to refuse single mothers).

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I have never known anyone who was happy who lived like that, they're all miserable and very unsuccessful (their love of socialism makes them sit around all day whining that they need money but not willing to work for it).
Even left-leaning Mormon ones.
I've never met a happy lesbian.
Or single woman without kids.
Social Justice is infecting all sorts of things, women my age are very mean and sour.
Because they are repressing their natural instincts and desires. Freud knew how that worked. That is why modern feminists hate Freud...and biology as well.
Ironic since as they are nearing 30 they begin to get slightly nervous if still single and if they want kids but they get angrier and more bitter so, yeah doesn't make me want to get out there.
Not that I am much of a catch (and I have the nerve to refuse single mothers).
My kids want a dog and so we have been studying breeds. It is noted that female dogs who have puppies once in their lives tend to be far less neurotic as they age. The biology principles of mammalian reproduction are probably not that much different in regards to humans, dogs or chimps.

It is interesting though that as a woman reaches 30 she may have been intimate with dozens of men, and a few women, who could spend money on them and give them a good time but eventually the pool of dynamic or fat-wallet prospects ceases to give them attention. As the guy said in the movie "Dazed and Confused" he could get older but the young women never age as there is always a new crop. Then the women who would never give a beta or even omega male the time of day will suddenly show interest in him. Then they marry, reproduce a time or two, and then probably think about some "more superior" lover they had back in the day whenever they can't use a headache as an excuse.

Of course not all women are like this and you can find many in the LDS faith that are more traditional and have not grown up on Disney and MTV. I think you should give the LDS brand a try.

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Without knowing it these parents are just preparing their children for eternity in the lower kingdoms:
Some of the functions in the celestial body will not appear in the terrestrial body, neither in the telestial body, and the power of procreation will be removed. I take it that men and women will, in these kingdoms, be just what the so-called Christian world expects us all to be - neither man nor woman, merely immortal beings having received the resurrection. (Joseph F. Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 2:287-288)

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/GenlAuthor ... n-JFeS.htm
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Matchmaker wrote: July 27th, 2017, 7:43 pm
Fiannan wrote: July 27th, 2017, 3:09 pm
I think one of the reasons these ideologies that deny basic reality are pushed and promoted by governments and societies has little to do with rights and more to do with population control. If you cannot abort enough babies or kill enough people through wars and such, then why not encourage relationships and lifestyles that are not centered on, or capable of, reproduction at all.
You got that one right. Appears you have researched this issue way more than the average person.
I'm surprised the powers that be are not doing more to stop the Muslims, Mexicans, Africans in Africa, and the Indians in India from reproducing. They are reproducing much faster than the Americans or Europeans.
They want the white population to become extinct or the minority

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They want to rule over a garbage planet with a 3rd world population, not the 1st world one that expects prosperity.

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yea they want them to be uneducated and to work etc to support those so called "ELITE"

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Some may be surprised to hear that I agree with and support the concept that gender is an essential characteristic of individual identity and purpose.

I also believe that there are measurable, valid, and important differences between individuals; there are general differences that we can measure about the majority of men (but not all men), and there are general differences that we can measure between the majority of women (but not all women).

Clearly, a majority of men's physical, mental, and emotional characteristics (including brain development, cognition, and skill development) differ from a majority of women's physical, mental, and emotional characteristics (including brain development, cognition, and skill development). I believe it's best to understand, acknowledge, build, and capitalize on those strengths and talents that come naturally to any given individual.

In addition to emphasizing the importance of recognizing those measureable trends within the majority, it's equally important to acknowledge and understand that there are variations from 'the norm,' and not every individual's physical, mental, and emotional characteristics align with the majority's. For example, in many respects, gay men's physical, mental, and emotional characteristics (including brain development, cognition, and skill development) more closely mirror straight women's. And in many respects, lesbian women's physical, mental, and emotional characteristics (including brain development, cognition, and skill development) more closely mirror straight men's. Additionally, intersex individuals may display a complex interplay of both male and female characteristics. The same is true of many transgender individuals.

In short, general rules are reflective of the majority, but are not universally applicable. Just as it's important to recognize the validity of the differences between sexes as they apply to the general majority, it's equally important to understand and recognize that the general rules don't apply to individuals who, based on their own inherent characteristics and/or development, fall outside the norm.

The expression of gender is uniquely personal to each individual, depending on where they fall on the spectrum. It's a classic example of the need to discover, live, and breath the peace found within "The Serenity Prayer":

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
the courage to change the things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

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Joel wrote: November 13th, 2017, 6:12 pm Without knowing it these parents are just preparing their children for eternity in the lower kingdoms:
Some of the functions in the celestial body will not appear in the terrestrial body, neither in the telestial body, and the power of procreation will be removed. I take it that men and women will, in these kingdoms, be just what the so-called Christian world expects us all to be - neither man nor woman, merely immortal beings having received the resurrection. (Joseph F. Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 2:287-288)

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/GenlAuthor ... n-JFeS.htm
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It's one thing to not retain "the power of procreation"--that's simply called infertility.

It's another thing entirely to be resurrected without certain body parts in tact. This notion that individuals in the Telestial or Telestial Kingdoms won't be resurrected with their genitals is false doctrine that violates the core LDS doctrine that every part of our bodies will be resurrected in their most perfect form--not even a hair lost.

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I think the concept of a "TK smoothie" is rather nonsensical. All that we know is that there will be no procreation in the lower kingdoms. Technically, that doesn't even mean sexual intercourse (sans fertility) won't exist there, though that's unlikely.

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Fiannan wrote: July 27th, 2017, 2:35 am So what do you think, is this the future of the USA?
No it's not, it's just a fad. Once they realize that real women won't/can't have sex with them then they will change, and probably develop a hated for their parents for raising them the way they did, and rightfully so.

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Joel wrote: November 13th, 2017, 6:12 pm Without knowing it these parents are just preparing their children for eternity in the lower kingdoms:
Some of the functions in the celestial body will not appear in the terrestrial body, neither in the telestial body, and the power of procreation will be removed. I take it that men and women will, in these kingdoms, be just what the so-called Christian world expects us all to be - neither man nor woman, merely immortal beings having received the resurrection. (Joseph F. Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 2:287-288)

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/GenlAuthor ... n-JFeS.htm
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And in Britain:

https://archbishopcranmer.com/teacher-t ... two-sexes/ In the video on the page the teacher notes that educational policy...oh wait, just watch.

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