BYU's public statement on Dr Jones

[AGStacker]

I know that Dr Jones doesn't probably care to have this posted but every time I hear his story it makes me very angry. I can't believe that they would do this to Brother Jones.

I guess it makes sense that during a prayer at BYU Nibley mentioned that they were gathered together "in the black robes of the false priesthood".

This is simply posted for those who haven't had read it before.

"Brigham Young University has a policy of academic freedom that supports the pursuit and dissemination of knowledge and ideas. Through the academic process, ideas should be advanced, challenged, and debated by peer-review in credible venues. We believe in the integrity of the academic review process and that, when it is followed properly, peer-review is valuable for evaluating the validity of ideas and conclusions.

"The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Centerbuildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review."

[BroJones]

"I know that Dr Jones doesn't probably care to have this posted but every time I hear his story it makes me very angry. I can't believe that they would do this to Brother Jones."

It is a concern to me as well, AGStacker. And I don't understand it. It was painful for me and my family. We will understand some day.
You know, I served as on the Stake High Council in the BYU 10th Stake then as a Bishop in the BYU 99th Ward, while I was serving also as a Full Professor of Physics. I gave it my all.
I thought I should at least deserve a hearing, a chance to hear the charges against me and answer them -- which I requested, as noted in the newspaper.

I know that Dr Jones doesn't probably care to have this posted but every time I hear his story it makes me very angry. I can't believe that they would do this to Brother Jones.

I guess it makes sense that during a prayer at BYU Nibley mentioned that they were gathered together "in the black robes of the false priesthood".

This is simply posted for those who haven't had read it before.

"Brigham Young University has a policy of academic freedom that supports the pursuit and dissemination of knowledge and ideas. Through the academic process, ideas should be advanced, challenged, and debated by peer-review in credible venues. We believe in the integrity of the academic review process and that, when it is followed properly, peer-review is valuable for evaluating the validity of ideas and conclusions.

"The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Centerbuildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review."

What is the date on this statement? and where was it posted?

I think it is old, and has long since been taken down. If this CHALLENGED statement by BYU is still up somewhere by BYU, I would like to know about it.

I have published several PEER-REVIEWED papers on 9/11; see my web-page here:

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note the peer-reviewed papers at the top of my web-page.

Curriculum Vitae. Notable peer-reviewed publications (from over fifty)

· J. Rafelski and S.E. Jones, "Cold Nuclear Fusion," Scientific American, 257: 84-89 (July 1987).

· S.E. Jones, "Muon-Catalysed Fusion Revisited," (Invited article) Nature 321: 127-133 (1986).

Steven E. Jones, “What accounts for the molten metal observed on 9/11/2001?”, Journal of the Utah Academy of Sciences, Arts and Letters, 83:252, Apr 2006.
S.E. Jones, et al. "Fourteen Points...", Open Civil Engineering Journal, April 2008.
K. Ryan, J. Gourley and S.E. Jones, "Environmental Anomalies at the World Trade Center: Evidence for Energetic Materials", Environmentalist, August 2008.
Niels Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven Jones, et al. "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe", THE OPEN CHEMICAL PHYSICS JOURNAL, April 2009.

One "scientific venue" was a forum I presented at BYU in the Eyring Science Center in September 2005, with faculty-peers present. I presented 9/11 research and they applied "rigorous technical peer review" for about two hours. Scientific forums with peers present are common arenas for peer review.
This seminar, open also to the public, was followed up by FORMALLY REVIEWED AND PUBLISHED papers; see above.

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[AGStacker]

Here is the link I got the information from Dr Jones. http://rense.com/general69/discred.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When you mentioned that they publicly outed you I wanted to see it for myself. I never not believed you.

[BroJones]

From your specific research into 9/11 and your understanding of physics, etc., has this caused you to question what other things governments may be capable of?

Yes, certainly. Clandestine weapons of war and torture are terrible. Such weapons can and have been used for false-flag attacks which are historically precedented.

In the pages of this forum and elsewhere, I have spoken against wars of aggression and against torture, and against abridgements of human freedom including the right to seek redress for grievances, the right of free speech, the right of habeus corpus, and the right of freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures -- and the right of due process when charged of wrong-doing. My experience and observation -- we are losing those rights vouch-safed in the Constitution of the United States of America by the founders.

[BroJones]

Here is the link I got the information from Dr Jones. http://rense.com/general69/discred.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When you mentioned that they publicly outed you I wanted to see it for myself. I never not believed you.

That statement dates to November 2005 -- the BYU statement about peer-review was challenged as incorrect and was TAKEN DOWN long before I was put on Admin. leave in Sept. 2006 (about ten months later).

Quoting from your source:

BYU Discredits Prof
Jones For 911 WTC Paper!
BYU Brass Discredit Physics Professor For Saying
WTC Brought Down by Controlled Demolition



Professor Steven E. Jones only was in the public eye for five days before BYU told him to stop giving interviews. Now the university has issued a public statement distancing itself from Jones and even discrediting his work. Critics suggest Bush administration had its dirty hand in forcing BYU to 'shut up' its professor.


By Greg Szymanski
11-29-5

Brigham Young University (BYU) issued a public statement this week, discrediting and distancing itself from physics Professor Steven E. Jones for publicly claiming the WTC was brought down by explosives not jet fuel like the government contends.

Jones, a tenured BYU professor, went public two weeks ago after releasing a 19 page academic paper, essentially showing how the laws of physics do not support the WTC's freefall and, consequently, the official government story.

While expressing doubt about the government's version of 9/11, he called for an independent investigation concerning the strange collapse of the towers and Building No. 7, something the 9/11 Commission failed to do and something the Bush administration adamantly opposes. ....

[AGStacker]

Wait, so the statement actually came from BYU or it did not?

[BroJones]

Wait, so the statement actually came from BYU or it did not?

Yes, the statement you quoted (repeated below for clarity) was from BYU; posted in November 2005; and it was TAKEN DOWN by BYU long before Sept 2006 when I was placed on BYU-Admin. Leave;

"Brigham Young University has a policy of academic freedom that supports the pursuit and dissemination of knowledge and ideas. Through the academic process, ideas should be advanced, challenged, and debated by peer-review in credible venues. We believe in the integrity of the academic review process and that, when it is followed properly, peer-review is valuable for evaluating the validity of ideas and conclusions.

"The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Centerbuildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review."

I believe it is to BYU's credit that they TOOK DOWN this statement when it was challenged (and before Sept. 2006).

[gclayjr]

Just curious... Jones is a common name... as I read this thread, I assume that the Dr. Jones you are talking about is not our Dr. Jones.. here on this site... actually posting to this thread.

Am I correct?

Regards,

George Clay

[Seek the Truth]

Yes it is. While I do not agree with him I have come to have a great deal of respect for him and wish nothing but the best for him. It is a tragic situation, but such is life.

[BroJones]

Just curious... Jones is a common name... as I read this thread, I assume that the Dr. Jones you are talking about is not our Dr. Jones.. here on this site... actually posting to this thread.

Am I correct?

Regards,

George Clay

To be clear, this is Dr. Steven E. Jones, the one who posts here fairly often, and the same who served as a Bishop in the BYU 99th Ward and as High Councilor in the BYU 10th Stake, two awards for teaching at BYU, was placed on Admin. Leave very publicly in Sept. 2006 evidently for speaking out about 9/11 and challenging the "official narrative" -- that's me.

I have also done research on alternative energy since about 1980, and I continue that research. And we're making great progress!

PS -- our daughter is home from her mission to Baton Rouge, La! what a joyful occasion and a great lunch.

[Col. Flagg]

PS -- our daughter is home from her mission to Baton Rouge, La! what a joyful occasion and a great lunch.

:ymhug: That's awesome - I am sure that was a joyful reunion Steve and a hat tip to your daughter for desiring to serve in that capacity. :ymapplause: We're expecting our son's mission call soon, possibly in the next 2-3 weeks - he's requested state-side since he suffers from panic & anxiety attacks and he spent a few months getting some counseling through LDS Family Services to help him cope with and deal with any anxiety he may have while out. We're excited for him and his girlfriend is in the process of submitting her papers to go and so with her going, it will be easier for him (hopefully).

[InfoWarrior82]

Just curious... Jones is a common name... as I read this thread, I assume that the Dr. Jones you are talking about is not our Dr. Jones.. here on this site... actually posting to this thread.

Am I correct?

Regards,

George Clay

To be clear, this is Dr. Steven E. Jones, the one who posts here fairly often, and the same who served as a Bishop in the BYU 99th Ward and as High Councilor in the BYU 10th Stake, two awards for teaching at BYU, was placed on Admin. Leave very publicly in Sept. 2006 evidently for speaking out about 9/11 and challenging the "official narrative" -- that's me.

I have also done research on alternative energy since about 1980, and I continue that research. And we're making great progress!

PS -- our daughter is home from her mission to Baton Rouge, La! what a joyful occasion and a great lunch.

Keep up the good work Dr. Jones! As of today (Jan 17th, 2013), your work has yet to be dis-proven. Congratulations that your daughter is back safe and sound from her mission!

[Col. Flagg]

As for Dr. Jones and BYU's decision to force him into retirement... it's all pretty simple... BYU chose to distance itself from Steve's work because they didn't want the federal government breathing down its neck and the financial repercussions for BYU could have been severe in the form of reduced or even suspended grants and loans for BYU students not to mention threats to the church's tax-exempt status (501c3). It was a pure money decision, but that doesn't make what they did right, in fact, it was downright despicable. I'd like to know how it is that Dr. Jeffrey Farrer is still teaching and employed by BYU when he's come out 100% in support of Dr. Jones and his 9/11 research/conclusions? Why hasn't he lost his job yet for backing the truth? Guess it's been long enough now and decisions already made that they don't have to worry about the feds and Bush/Cheney are long gone anyway. It is this man's humble opinion that those BYU officials responsible for Steve's dismissal from the school will have to answer to the Lord some day on the other side. At best it was cowardice and at worst, betrayal. X(

[JohnnyL]

Maybe.

I GUESS it was a lot of factors:
1. GR pushed it. Remember to choose your wars and resource expenditure wisely.
2. Many at BYU accepted and believed the official story--internal pressure and contention resulted. Remember, brainwashing doesn't just come by pressure... ( I remember Rex Lee being all up on vaccines and how they got him to believe that).
3. Many donors called BYU and said they would stop donations unless Jones was FIRED.

The fact that BYU did as they did... well, was pretty good/ reasonable, given the circumstances.
Honorable? Not in a celestial world.

[BroJones]

Thanks for comments and encouragement, fellas.

Would like to help on this one, Flagg:

he's requested state-side since he suffers from panic & anxiety attacks and he spent a few months getting some counseling through LDS Family Services to help him cope with and deal with any anxiety he may have while out.

I had this problem about 13 years ago now; a real pain. Doc insisted I take Prozac stuff. I did for 2 days -- gave me hallucinations! that was scary. So I went to a different doctor. As I recall, he explained it better (low serotonin and high cortisol builds up) -- and that EXERCISE especially in the sunshine is SHOWN to be just as good as Prozac, with NO bad side effects.

That's it! Exercise! so I walked/hiked day after day about 45 minutes per day. Lowers stress hormones like cortisol. Fast. Then running, wind-sprints. I prayed (often) as I hiked, prayers of thanksgiving.

It worked so well!! prozac from the doctor thrown away. Recovering from this problem, I felt stronger -- and determined to tell the truth with love. Love casts out fear, John says.

That was the "therapy" I was blessed with -- work on love, gratitude and exercise!

[Benjamin_LK]

As for Dr. Jones and BYU's decision to force him into retirement... it's all pretty simple... BYU chose to distance itself from Steve's work because they didn't want the federal government breathing down its neck and the financial repercussions for BYU could have been severe in the form of reduced or even suspended grants and loans for BYU students not to mention threats to the church's tax-exempt status (501c3). It was a pure money decision, but that doesn't make what they did right, in fact, it was downright despicable. I'd like to know how it is that Dr. Jeffrey Farrer is still teaching and employed by BYU when he's come out 100% in support of Dr. Jones and his 9/11 research/conclusions? Why hasn't he lost his job yet for backing the truth? Guess it's been long enough now and decisions already made that they don't have to worry about the feds and Bush/Cheney are long gone anyway. It is this man's humble opinion that those BYU officials responsible for Steve's dismissal from the school will have to answer to the Lord some day on the other side. At best it was cowardice and at worst, betrayal. X(

How open and forward was Jeffrey Farrer about his support of Jones. It's more than possible the government just wants to make an example of someone rather than find every last heretic. If you can discredit a man as dishonest and a liar, well, in today's world, that's good enough.

As far as Jones goes, what speaks louder than his leaving BYU is the fact that the church still has him in good standing, which cannot be said for every resigning professor out there.

If I can say anything, this thread sounds like it deserves some insight into the real story about Galileo.

[eric]

Thanks for comments and encouragement, fellas.

Would like to help on this one, Flagg:

he's requested state-side since he suffers from panic & anxiety attacks and he spent a few months getting some counseling through LDS Family Services to help him cope with and deal with any anxiety he may have while out.

I had this problem about 13 years ago now; a real pain. Doc insisted I take Prozac stuff. I did for 2 days -- gave me hallucinations! that was scary. So I went to a different doctor. As I recall, he explained it better (low serotonin and high cortisol builds up) -- and that EXERCISE especially in the sunshine is SHOWN to be just as good as Prozac, with NO bad side effects.

That's it! Exercise! so I walked/hiked day after day about 45 minutes per day. Lowers stress hormones like cortisol. Fast. Then running, wind-sprints. I prayed (often) as I hiked, prayers of thanksgiving.

It worked so well!! prozac from the doctor thrown away. Recovering from this problem, I felt stronger -- and determined to tell the truth with love. Love casts out fear, John says.

That was the "therapy" I was blessed with -- work on love, gratitude and exercise!

Thanks for sharing Dr. Jones. Yes, my wife suffered with this kind of thing for years. Exercise was key - also regular (weekly) B-12 injections were key in getting her through them. I have decent insurance and a years supply in a vial, including needles, cost her $9 and she self-injects now, similar to diabetes meds (very tiny needles - just a prick with little pain). I CANNOT express vigorously enough how important B-12 is in controlling serotonin/cortizol/ and other hormone levels.

Check into it:

Micronutrient Information Center
Vitamin B12

Vitamin B12 has the largest and most complex chemical structure of all the vitamins. It is unique among vitamins in that it contains a metal ion, cobalt. For this reason cobalamin is the term used to refer to compounds having vitamin B12 activity. Methylcobalamin and 5-deoxyadenosyl cobalamin are the forms of vitamin B12 used in the human body (1). The form of cobalamin used in most supplements, cyanocobalamin, is readily converted to 5-deoxyadenosyl and methylcobalamin in the body. In mammals, cobalamin is a cofactor for only two enzymes, methionine synthase and L-methylmalonyl-CoA mutase (2).

Function

Cofactor for methionine synthase

Methylcobalamin is required for the function of the folate-dependent enzyme, methionine synthase. This enzyme is required for the synthesis of the amino acid, methionine, from homocysteine. Methionine in turn is required for the synthesis of S-adenosylmethionine, a methyl group donor used in many biological methylation reactions, including the methylation of a number of sites within DNA and RNA (3). Methylation of DNA may be important in cancer prevention. Inadequate function of methionine synthase can lead to an accumulation of homocysteine, which has been associated with increased risk of cardiovascular diseases (diagram).

Cofactor for L-methylmalonyl-CoA mutase

5-Deoxyadenosylcobalamin is required by the enzyme that catalyzes the conversion of L-methylmalonyl-CoA to succinyl-CoA. This biochemical reaction plays an important role in the production of energy from fats and proteins. Succinyl CoA is also required for the synthesis of hemoglobin, the oxygen carrying pigment in red blood cells (3).

Deficiency

Vitamin B12 deficiency is estimated to affect 10%-15% of individuals over the age of 60 (4). Absorption of vitamin B12 from food requires normal function of the stomach, pancreas, and small intestine. Stomach acid and enzymes free vitamin B12 from food, allowing it to bind to other proteins called R proteins (3). In the alkaline environment of the small intestine, R proteins are degraded by pancreatic enzymes, freeing vitamin B12 to bind to intrinsic factor (IF), a protein secreted by specialized cells in the stomach. Receptors on the surface of the small intestine take up the IF-B12 complex only in the presence of calcium, which is supplied by the pancreas (5). Vitamin B12 can also be absorbed by passive diffusion, but this process is very inefficient—only about 1% absorption of the vitamin B12 dose is absorbed passively (2).

Causes of vitamin B12 deficiency

The most common causes of vitamin B12 deficiency are: 1) an autoimmune condition known as pernicious anemia and 2) food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption. Although both causes become more common with increasing age, they are separate conditions (4).

Pernicious anemia

Pernicious anemia has been estimated to be present in approximately 2% of individuals over 60 (6). Although anemia is often a symptom, the condition is actually the end stage of an autoimmune inflammation of the stomach, resulting in destruction of stomach cells by one's own antibodies. Progressive destruction of the cells that line the stomach causes decreased secretion of acid and enzymes required to release food-bound vitamin B12. Antibodies to intrinsic factor (IF) bind to IF preventing formation of the IF-B12 complex, further inhibiting vitamin B12 absorption. If the body's vitamin B12 stores are adequate prior to the onset of pernicious anemia, it may take years for symptoms of deficiency to develop. About 20% of the relatives of pernicious anemia patients also have pernicious anemia, suggesting a genetic predisposition. Treatment of pernicious anemia generally requires injections of vitamin B12 to bypass intestinal absorption. High-dose oral supplementation is another treatment option, because consuming 1,000 mcg (1 mg)/day of vitamin B12 orally should result in the absorption of about 10 mcg/day (1% of dose) by passive diffusion (4). In fact, high-dose oral therapy is considered to be as effective as intramuscular injection (7-10).

Food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption

Food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption is defined as an impaired ability to absorb food or protein-bound vitamin B12, although the free form is fully absorbable (11). In the elderly, food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption is thought to result mainly from atrophic gastritis, a chronic inflammation of the lining of the stomach that ultimately results in the loss of glands in the stomach (atrophy) and decreased stomach acid production. Because stomach acid is required for the release of vitamin B12 from the proteins in food, vitamin B12 absorption is diminished. Decreased stomach acid production also provides an environment conducive to the overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria in the stomach, which further interferes with vitamin B12 absorption (3). Because vitamin B12 in supplements is not bound to protein, and because intrinsic factor (IF) is still available, the absorption of supplemental vitamin B12 is not reduced as it is in pernicious anemia. Thus, individuals with food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption do not have an increased requirement for vitamin B12; they simply need it in the crystalline form found in fortified foods and dietary supplements.

Atrophic gastritis

Atrophic gastritis is thought to affect 10%-30% of people over 60 years of age, and the condition is frequently associated with infection by the bacteria, Heliobacter pylori. H. pylori infection induces chronic inflammation of the stomach, which may progress to peptic ulcer disease, atrophic gastritis, and/or gastric cancer in some individuals. The relationship of H. pylori infection to atrophic gastritis, gastric cancer, and vitamin B12 deficiency is presently an area of active research (4).

Other causes of vitamin B12 deficiency

Other causes of vitamin B12 deficiency include surgical resection of the stomach or portions of the small intestine where receptors for the IF-B12 complex are located. Conditions affecting the small intestine, such as malabsorption syndromes (celiac disease and tropical sprue), may also result in vitamin B12 deficiency. Because the pancreas provides critical enzymes as well as calcium required for vitamin B12 absorption, pancreatic insufficiency may contribute to B12 deficiency. Since vitamin B12 is found only in foods of animal origin, a strict vegetarian (vegan) diet has resulted in cases of vitamin B12 deficiency. Alcoholics may experience reduced intestinal absorption of vitamin B12 (2). Individuals with acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) appear to be at increased risk of deficiency, possibly related to a failure of the IF-B12 receptor to take up the IF-B12 complex (3). Long-term use of acid-reducing drugs has also been implicated in vitamin B12 deficiency (see Drug interactions).

Symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency

Vitamin B12 deficiency results in impairment of the activities of B12-requiring enzymes. Impaired activity of methionine synthase may result in elevated homocysteine levels, while impaired activity of L-methylmalonyl-CoA mutase results in increased levels of a metabolite of methylmalonyl-CoA called methylmalonic acid (MMA). Individuals with mild vitamin B12 deficiency may not experience symptoms, although blood levels of homocysteine and/or MMA may be elevated (12).

Megaloblastic anemia

Diminished activity of methionine synthase in vitamin B12 deficiency inhibits the regeneration of tetrahydrofolate (THF) and traps folate in a form that is not usable by the body (diagram), resulting in symptoms of folate deficiency even in the presence of adequate folate levels. Thus, in both folate and vitamin B12 deficiencies, folate is unavailable to participate in DNA synthesis. This impairment of DNA synthesis affects the rapidly dividing cells of the bone marrow earlier than other cells, resulting in the production of large, immature, hemoglobin-poor red blood cells. The resulting anemia is known as megaloblastic anemia and is the symptom for which the disease, pernicious anemia, was named (3). Supplementation with folic acid will provide enough usable folate to restore normal red blood cell formation. However, if vitamin B12 deficiency is the cause, it will persist despite the resolution of the anemia. Thus, megaloblastic anemia should not be treated with folic acid until the underlying cause has been determined (5).

Neurologic symptoms

The neurologic symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency include numbness and tingling of the arms and, more commonly, the legs, difficulty walking, memory loss, disorientation, and dementia with or without mood changes. Although the progression of neurologic complications is generally gradual, such symptoms are not always reversible with treatment of vitamin B12 deficiency, especially if they have been present for a long time. Neurologic complications are not always associated with megaloblastic anemia and are the only clinical symptom of vitamin B12 deficiency in about 25% of cases (6). Although vitamin B12 deficiency is known to damage the myelin sheath covering cranial, spinal, and peripheral nerves, the biochemical processes leading to neurological damage in B12 deficiency are not well understood (3).

Gastrointestinal symptoms

Tongue soreness, appetite loss, and constipation have also been associated with vitamin B12 deficiency. The origins of these symptoms are unclear, but they may be related to the stomach inflammation underlying some cases of B12 deficiency, or to the increased vulnerability of rapidly dividing gastrointestinal cells to impaired DNA synthesis (6).

The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA)

The current RDA was revised by the Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) of the Institute of Medicine in 1998. Because of the increased risk of food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption in older adults, the FNB recommended that adults over 50 years of age get most of the RDA from fortified food or vitamin B12-containing supplements (6).
Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for Vitamin B12
Life Stage Age Males (mcg/day) Females (mcg/day)
Infants 0-6 months 0.4 (AI) 0.4 (AI)
Infants 7-12 months 0.5 (AI) 0.5 (AI)
Children 1-3 years 0.9 0.9
Children 4-8 years 1.2 1.2
Children 9-13 years 1.8 1.8
Adolescents 14-18 years 2.4 2.4
Adults 19-50 years 2.4 2.4
Adults 51 years and older 2.4* 2.4*
Pregnancy all ages - 2.6
Breast-feeding all ages - 2.8

*Vitamin B12 intake should be from supplements or fortified foods due to the age-related increase in food bound malabsorption.

Disease Prevention

Homocysteine and cardiovascular disease

The results of more than 80 studies indicate that even moderately elevated levels of homocysteine in the blood increase the risk of cardiovascular diseases (13), though the mechanism by which homocysteine increases the disease risk remains the subject of a great deal of research. The amount of homocysteine in the blood is regulated by at least three vitamins: folate, vitamin B12, and vitamin B6 (diagram). Analysis of the results of 12 homocysteine-lowering trials showed folic acid supplementation (0.5-5 mg/day) had the greatest lowering effect on blood homocysteine levels (25% decrease); co-supplementation with folic acid and vitamin B12 (mean 0.5 mg/day or 500 mcg/day) provided an additional 7% reduction (32% decrease) in blood homocysteine concentrations (14). The results of a sequential supplementation trial in 53 men and women indicated that after folic acid supplementation, vitamin B12 became the major determinant of plasma homocysteine levels (15). Some evidence indicates that vitamin B12 deficiency is a major cause of elevated homocysteine levels in people over the age of 60. Two studies found blood methylmalonic acid (MMA) levels to be elevated in more than 60% of elderly individuals with elevated homocysteine levels. An elevated MMA level in conjunction with elevated homocysteine, in the absence of impaired kidney function, suggests either a vitamin B12 deficiency or a combined B12 and folate deficiency (16). Thus, it is important to evaluate vitamin B12 status as well as kidney function in older individuals with elevated homocysteine levels prior to initiating homocysteine-lowering therapy. For more information regarding homocysteine and cardiovascular diseases, see the article on folic acid.

Although increased intake of folic acid and vitamin B12 has been found to decrease homocysteine levels, it is not presently known whether increasing intake of these vitamins will translate to reductions in risk for cardiovascular diseases. However, several randomized placebo-controlled trials are presently being conducted to determine whether homocysteine lowering through folic acid and other B vitamin supplementation reduces the incidence of cardiovascular diseases. A meta-analysis of data from four of the ongoing trials shows that B vitamin supplementation had no significant effect on risk of coronary heart disease or stroke, but only about 14,000 participants were included in analysis and thus any conclusions are limited (17). Nevertheless, the completion of ongoing clinical trials should help to answer whether or not supplemental B vitamins lower risk for cardiovascular diseases.

Cancer

Folate is required for synthesis of DNA, and there is evidence that decreased availability of folate results in strands of DNA that are more susceptible to damage. Deficiency of vitamin B12 traps folate in a form that is unusable by the body for DNA synthesis. Both vitamin B12 and folate deficiencies result in a diminished capacity for methylation reactions (diagram). Thus, vitamin B12 deficiency may lead to an elevated rate of DNA damage and altered methylation of DNA, both of which are important risk factors for cancer. A recent series of studies in young adults and older men indicated that increased levels of homocysteine and decreased levels of vitamin B12 in the blood were associated with a biomarker of chromosome breakage in white blood cells. In a double-blind, placebo-controlled study, the same biomarker of chromosome breakage was minimized in young adults who were supplemented with 700 mcg of folic acid and 7 mcg of vitamin B12 daily in cereal for two months (18).

Breast cancer

A case-control study compared prediagnostic levels of serum folate, vitamin B6, and vitamin B12 in 195 women later diagnosed with breast cancer and 195 age-matched women who were not diagnosed with breast cancer (19). Among women who were postmenopausal at the time of blood donation, the association between blood levels of vitamin B12 and breast cancer suggested a threshold effect. The risk of breast cancer was more than doubled in women with serum vitamin B12 levels in the lowest quintile (1/5) compared to women in the four highest quintiles. The investigators found no relationship between breast cancer and serum levels of vitamin B6, folate, or homocysteine. A case-control study in Mexican women (475 cases and 1,391 controls) reported that breast cancer risk for women in the highest quartile (1/4) of vitamin B12 intake was 68% lower than those in the lowest quartile (20). Stratification of the data revealed that the inverse association between dietary vitamin B12 intake and breast cancer risk was stronger in postmenopausal women compared to premenopausal women, though both associations were statistically significant. Because these studies were observational, it cannot be determined whether decreased serum levels of vitamin B12 or low dietary vitamin B12 intakes were a cause or a result of breast cancer. Previously, there has been little evidence to suggest a relationship between vitamin B12 status and breast cancer risk. However, high dietary folate intakes have been associated with reduced risk for breast cancer in several studies, and some studies have reported that vitamin B12 intake may modify this association (21, 22).

Neural tube defects

Neural tube defects (NTD) may result in anencephaly or spina bifida, devastating and sometimes fatal birth defects. The defects occur between the 21st and 27th days after conception, a time when many women do not realize they are pregnant (23). Randomized controlled trials have demonstrated 60% to 100% reductions in NTD cases when women consumed folic acid supplements in addition to a varied diet during the month before and the month after conception. Increasing evidence indicates that the homocysteine-lowering effect of folic acid plays a critical role in lowering the risk of NTD (24). Homocysteine may accumulate in the blood when there is inadequate folate and/or vitamin B12 for effective functioning of the methionine synthase enzyme. Decreased vitamin B12 levels in the blood and amniotic fluid of pregnant women have been associated with an increased risk of NTD, suggesting that adequate vitamin B12 intake in addition to folic acid may be beneficial in the prevention of NTD.

Alzheimer's disease and dementia

Individuals with Alzheimer's disease often have low blood levels of vitamin B12. One study found lower vitamin B12 levels in the cerebrospinal fluid of patients with Alzheimer's disease than in patients with other types of dementia, though blood levels of vitamin B12 did not differ (25). The reason for the association of low vitamin B12 status with Alzheimer's disease is not clear. Vitamin B12 deficiency, like folate deficiency, may lead to decreased synthesis of methionine and S-adenosylmethionine, thereby adversely affecting methylation reactions. Methylation reactions are essential for the metabolism of components of the myelin sheath of nerve cells as well as neurotransmitters. Also, moderately increased homocysteine levels as well as decreased folate and vitamin B12 levels have been associated with Alzheimer's disease and vascular dementia.

Some but not all studies have associated elevated homocysteine concentrations or decreased serum levels of vitamin B12 with an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease. A case-control study of 164 patients with dementia of Alzheimer's type included 76 cases in which the diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease was confirmed by examination of brain cells after death (26). Compared to 108 control subjects without evidence of dementia, subjects with dementia of Alzheimer's type and confirmed Alzheimer's disease had higher blood homocysteine levels and lower blood levels of folate and vitamin B12. Measures of general nutritional status indicated that the association of increased homocysteine levels and diminished vitamin B12 status with Alzheimer's disease was not due to dementia-related malnutrition (26). In another study, low serum vitamin B12 (< 150 pmol/L) or folate (< 10 nmol/L) levels were associated with a doubling of the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease in 370 elderly men and women followed over three years (27). In a sample of 1,092 men and women without dementia followed for an average of ten years, those with higher plasma homocysteine levels at baseline had a significantly higher risk of developing Alzheimer's disease and other types of dementia (28). Specifically, those with plasma homocysteine levels greater than 14 micromol/L had nearly double the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease. A study in 650 elderly men and women reported that the risk of elevated plasma homocysteine levels was significantly higher in those with lower cognitive function scores (29). A prospective study in 816 elderly men and women reported that those with elevated homocysteine levels
(> 15 micromol/L) had a significantly higher risk of developing Alzheimer's disease or dementia, but vitamin B12 status was not related to risk of Alzheimer's disease or dementia in this study (30). Similarly, another prospective study in 965 older adults found that vitamin B12 status was not related to the risk of Alzheimer's disease (31). Further, a prospective study in 1,041 older adults, followed for a median of 3.9 years, found that vitamin B12 dietary intake was not associated with risk of developing Alzheimer's disease (32).

B vitamin supplementation is commonly used to treat hyperhomocysteinemia. A recent randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial in 253 older individuals with plasma homocysteine concentrations equal to or greater than 13 micromol/L found that daily B vitamin supplementation (1 mg folic acid, 0.5 mg vitamin B12, and 10 mg vitamin B6) for two years did not affect measures of cognitive performance despite an average 4.36 micromol/L reduction in plasma homocysteine concentrations (33). Another randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study in 195 elderly adults reported that oral vitamin B12 supplementation (1 mg daily) for six months had no effect on measures of cognitive function (34). Several of the homocysteine-lowering trials primarily focused on assessing cardiovascular disease risk will also assess measures of cognitive function (35). Thus, the findings of these ongoing trials may provide insight into whether long-term B vitamin supplementation is protective against dementia.

Depression

Observational studies have found as many as 30% of patients hospitalized for depression are deficient in vitamin B12 (36). A cross-sectional study of 700 community-living, physically disabled women over the age of 65 found that vitamin B12 deficient women were twice as likely to be severely depressed as non-deficient women (37). A population-based study in 3,884 elderly men and women with depressive disorders found that those with vitamin B12 deficiency were almost 70% more likely to experience depression than those with normal vitamin B12 status (38). The reasons for the relationship between vitamin B12 deficiency and depression are not clear but may involve S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe). Vitamin B12 and folate are required for the synthesis of SAMe, a methyl group donor essential for the metabolism of neurotransmitters whose bioavailability has been related to depression. This hypothesis is supported by several studies that have shown supplementation with SAMe improves depressive symptoms (39-42). Because few studies have examined the relationship of vitamin B12 status and the development of depression over time, it cannot yet be determined if vitamin B12 deficiency plays a causal role in depression. However, due to the high prevalence of vitamin B12 deficiency in older individuals, it may be beneficial to screen for vitamin B12 deficiency as part of a medical evaluation for depression.

Sources

Food sources

Only bacteria can synthesize vitamin B12. Vitamin B12 is present in animal products such as meat, poultry, fish (including shellfish), and to a lesser extent milk, but it is not generally present in plant products or yeast (1). Fresh pasteurized milk contains 0.9 mcg per cup and is an important source of vitamin B12 for some vegetarians (6). Those vegetarians who eat no animal products need supplemental vitamin B12 to meet their requirements. Also, individuals over the age of 50 should obtain their vitamin B12 in supplements or fortified foods like fortified cereal because of the increased likelihood of food-bound vitamin B12 malabsorption.

Most people do not have a problem obtaining the RDA of 2.4 mcg/day of vitamin B12 in food. In the United States, the average intake of vitamin B12 is about 4.5 mcg/day for young adult men, and 3 mcg/day for young adult women. In a sample of adults over the age of 60, men were found to have an average dietary intake of 3.4 mcg/day and women had an average dietary intake of 2.6 mcg/day (6). Some foods with substantial amounts of vitamin B12 are listed in the table below along with their vitamin B12 content in micrograms (mcg). For more information on the nutrient content of specific foods, search the USDA food composition database.
Food Serving Vitamin B12 (mcg)
Clams (steamed) 3 ounces 84.0
Mussels (steamed) 3 ounces 20.4
Crab (steamed) 3 ounces 8.8
Salmon (baked) 3 ounces* 2.4
Rockfish (baked) 3 ounces 1.0
Beef (cooked) 3 ounces 2.1
Chicken (roasted) 3 ounces 0.3
Turkey (roasted) 3 ounces 0.3
Egg (poached) 1 large 0.6
Milk (skim) 8 ounces 0.9
Brie (cheese) 1 ounce 0.5

*A three-ounce serving of meat or fish is about the size of a deck of cards.

Supplements

Cyanocobalamin is the principal form of vitamin B12 used in supplements but methylcobalamin is also available as a supplement. Cyanocobalamin is available by prescription in an injectable form and as a nasal gel for the treatment of pernicious anemia. Over-the-counter preparations containing cyanocobalamin include multivitamin, vitamin B-complex, and vitamin B12 supplements (43).

Safety

Toxicity

No toxic or adverse effects have been associated with large intakes of vitamin B12 from food or supplements in healthy people. Doses as high as 1 mg (1000 mcg) daily by mouth or 1 mg monthly by intramuscular (IM) injection have been used to treat pernicious anemia without significant side effects. When high doses of vitamin B12 are given orally, only a small percentage can be absorbed, which may explain the low toxicity. Because of the low toxicity of vitamin B12, no tolerable upper intake level (UL) was set by the Food and Nutrition Board in 1998 when the RDA was revised (6).

Drug interactions

A number of drugs reduce the absorption of vitamin B12. Proton pump inhibitors (e.g., omeprazole and lansoprazole), used for therapy of Zollinger-Ellison syndrome and gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), markedly decrease stomach acid secretion required for the release of vitamin B12 from food but not from supplements. Long-term use of proton pump inhibitors has been found to decrease blood vitamin B12 levels. However, vitamin B12 deficiency does not generally develop until after at least three years of continuous therapy (44). Another class of gastric acid inhibitors known as H2-receptor antagonists (e.g., Tagamet, Pepsid, Zantac), often used to treat peptic ulcer disease, has also been found to decrease the absorption of vitamin B12 from food. Because inhibition of gastric acid secretion is not as prolonged as with proton pump inhibitors H2-receptor antagonists have not been found to cause overt vitamin B12 deficiency even after long-term use (45). Individuals taking drugs that inhibit gastric acid secretion should consider taking vitamin B12 in the form of a supplement because gastric acid is not required for its absorption. Other drugs found to inhibit vitamin B12 absorption from food include cholestyramine (a bile acid-binding resin used in the treatment of high cholesterol), chloramphenicol and neomycin (antibiotics), and colchicine (anti-gout medicine). Metformin, a medication for individuals with type 2 (non-insulin dependent) diabetes, decreases vitamin B12 absorption by tying up free calcium required for absorption of the IF-B12 complex. This effect is correctable by drinking milk or taking calcium carbonate tablets along with food or supplements (5). Previous reports that megadoses of vitamin C destroy vitamin B12 have not been supported (46) and may have been an artifact of the assay used to measure vitamin B12 levels (6).

Nitrous oxide, a commonly used anesthetic, inhibits both of the vitamin B12- dependent enzymes and can produce many of the clinical features of vitamin B12 deficiency, such as megaloblastic anemia or neuropathy. Because nitrous oxide is commonly used for surgery in the elderly, some experts feel vitamin B12 deficiency should be ruled out prior to its use (4, 12).

Large doses of folic acid given to an individual with an undiagnosed vitamin B12 deficiency could correct megaloblastic anemia without correcting the underlying vitamin B12 deficiency, leaving the individual at risk of developing irreversible neurologic damage (6). For this reason the Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine advises that all adults limit their intake of folic acid (supplements and fortification) to 1000 mcg (1 mg) daily.

Linus Pauling Institute Recommendation

A varied diet should provide enough vitamin B12 to prevent deficiency in most individuals 50 years of age and younger. Individuals over the age of 50, strict vegetarians, and women planning to become pregnant should take a multivitamin supplement daily or eat a fortified breakfast cereal, which would ensure a daily intake of 6 to 30 mcg of vitamin B12 in a form that is easily absorbed. Higher doses of vitamin B12 supplements are recommended for patients taking medications that interfere with its absorption (see Drug interactions).

Older adults (> 50 years)

Because vitamin B12 malabsorption and vitamin B12 deficiency are more common in older adults, some respected nutritionists recommend that adults older than 50 years take 100 to 400 mcg/day of supplemental vitamin B12, an amount provided by a number of vitamin B-complex supplements.

References

Written in March 2003 by:
Jane Higdon, Ph.D.
Linus Pauling Institute
Oregon State University

[friendsofthe]

Col. Flagg wrote:
As for Dr. Jones and BYU's decision to force him into retirement... it's all pretty simple... BYU chose to distance itself from Steve's work because they didn't want the federal government breathing down its neck and the financial repercussions for BYU could have been severe in the form of reduced or even suspended grants and loans for BYU students not to mention threats to the church's tax-exempt status (501c3). It was a pure money decision, but that doesn't make what they did right, in fact, it was downright despicable. I'd like to know how it is that Dr. Jeffrey Farrer is still teaching and employed by BYU when he's come out 100% in support of Dr. Jones and his 9/11 research/conclusions? Why hasn't he lost his job yet for backing the truth? Guess it's been long enough now and decisions already made that they don't have to worry about the feds and Bush/Cheney are long gone anyway. It is this man's humble opinion that those BYU officials responsible for Steve's dismissal from the school will have to answer to the Lord some day on the other side. At best it was cowardice and at worst, betrayal. X(

I see the issues involved with Dr Jones findings regarding 911, BYU and the church form a much broader perspective. I absolutely support Dr Jones conclusions, don’t have a shadow of a doubt that they are correct. However, the gads that pulled off 911, in my opinion would not hesitate to do much worse to BYU, the Church and it’s members than what you have stated above if backed into a corner. There is no way that BYU and by extension, the church, could afford to go toe to toe with the great and abominable church. I don’t think that was the Lord’s will.

The church of an earlier day was in essence directed through the Lord’s prophet to back down on the issue of polygamy. So why would the Lord direct the church of our day to take on the great and abominable church over the issue of 911?

Dr Jones, things happen for a purpose, as mortals we are not able to see the end from the beginning but I am confident that you did what you were supposed to do. Be happy for that! In the end, when all truth is known, you will be honored for your courage and forthrightness. What else matters?

[JohnnyL]

Try EFT (emotional freedom technique). It can often "take care of" (can't say CURE--federal agency disclaimer) these problems, sometimes in one session. I've seen it done for bipolar twice for others, both in about three sessions of an hour each, and much more... It's real, and it lasts when done right.)
Or maybe try PEAT, or Yuen Method.

eric,
That sounds very interesting and much better than pills!
Can you just get them anywhere with a prescription? What kind of doctor did you see to get the prescription, and how did you say it?

[BroJones]

I see the issues involved with Dr Jones findings regarding 911, BYU and the church form a much broader perspective. I absolutely support Dr Jones conclusions, don’t have a shadow of a doubt that they are correct. However, the gads that pulled off 911, in my opinion would not hesitate to do much worse to BYU, the Church and it’s members than what you have stated above if backed into a corner. There is no way that BYU and by extension, the church, could afford to go toe to toe with the great and abominable church. I don’t think that was the Lord’s will.

The church of an earlier day was in essence directed through the Lord’s prophet to back down on the issue of polygamy. So why would the Lord direct the church of our day to take on the great and abominable church over the issue of 911?

Dr Jones, things happen for a purpose, as mortals we are not able to see the end from the beginning but I am confident that you did what you were supposed to do. Be happy for that! In the end, when all truth is known, you will be honored for your courage and forthrightness. What else matters?

A very interesting perspective, Friendsofthe... It is comforting to know that the truth will come out ONE DAY.

I'd like to add one other thought -- I believe that the great meeting at Adam-ondi-Ahman will be pivotal. That is, after that meeting, I understand that the "tide will turn" clearly. My desire is to help people through the fog until that great day of bright sunlight.

[gr8ideas]

Every 6 months or so I need to say again +1 Dr. Jones!! :ymapplause:

[Col. Flagg]

Thanks for comments and encouragement, fellas.

Would like to help on this one, Flagg:

he's requested state-side since he suffers from panic & anxiety attacks and he spent a few months getting some counseling through LDS Family Services to help him cope with and deal with any anxiety he may have while out.

I had this problem about 13 years ago now; a real pain. Doc insisted I take Prozac stuff. I did for 2 days -- gave me hallucinations! that was scary. So I went to a different doctor. As I recall, he explained it better (low serotonin and high cortisol builds up) -- and that EXERCISE especially in the sunshine is SHOWN to be just as good as Prozac, with NO bad side effects.

That's it! Exercise! so I walked/hiked day after day about 45 minutes per day. Lowers stress hormones like cortisol. Fast. Then running, wind-sprints. I prayed (often) as I hiked, prayers of thanksgiving.

It worked so well!! prozac from the doctor thrown away. Recovering from this problem, I felt stronger -- and determined to tell the truth with love. Love casts out fear, John says.

That was the "therapy" I was blessed with -- work on love, gratitude and exercise!

Thanks for the advice and words of encouragement Steve. :ymhug: In all actuality though, I think his anxiety stems from the unknown more than anything and he's done a pretty good job keeping it under control since he was about 12. He's become more independent with his own job, vehicle, etc. and pretty much just sleeps at the house anymore as we rarely see him much owing to always being with friends, his girlfriend, etc., although, his girlfriend has sort of cooled things off as they both prepare for a mission. Fortunately he's not bad enough to warrant any medications - he was on something for about a year when he was 12-13, but hasn't been on it since thankfully (can't remember what it was)? I just hope he doesn't get into the MTC and have it erupt on him.

I love your exercise advice... there's really nothing like the sun, exercise or an animal to cure mental/emotional problems... that was a good move by your doctor. I know one thing for sure... I could never live in a place like Washington state because I have to have the sun because it really affects your mood - I couldn't stand 200+ days without the sun like they do in the northwest... that would be depressing and would certainly affect me negatively. Studies have shown that natural sunlight is a big time mood enhancer and if you couple exercise with that, you're in business as exercise makes you feel good. Again, thanks for your post Steve... I appreciate it. :ymhug:

[friendsofthe]

Dr Jones wrote:
A very interesting perspective, Friendsofthe... It is comforting to know that the truth will come out ONE DAY.

I'd like to add one other thought -- I believe that the great meeting at Adam-ondi-Ahman will be pivotal. That is, after that meeting, I understand that the "tide will turn" clearly. My desire is to help people through the fog until that great day of bright sunlight.

Yes, you are correct and I don’t think that the “great day” is very far off. So you won’t have long to wait until you are completely vindicated, at least in the eyes of church members and other seekers of truth.

By the way, suppose I were a teacher at BYU, what do you suppose their reaction would be to my writing a book like “A Year With No Rainbow”. LOL, not the kind of material you commonly see come out of the religion department over there, is it?

[hyloglyph]

Sorry guys I am just now noticing this thread. Thanks Dr. Jones for all you have done to spread truth! Back in '07 I was just becoming aware of our awful situation, and I invited some people over to my house and together we watched one of your presentations on 9-11. Everyone that attended ending up sooner or later coming around to the cause of freedom and truth!

Both my aunt and uncle teach at BYU (physics and engineering depts), and have very nice things to say about you, even though they may not have had the guts to stick up for you when they should have. It is a shame and an embarrassment that the "Lord's University" could not stand up for truth, and in fact actually fought against it, when the opportunity arose to expose a part of the latter-day gadianton's plan.

Thanks Bro Jones! I suspect your efforts may have had even more impact than you know.