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Not a whole lot... but I know he is a Fundamentalist, and has written a lot of books: http://ogdenkraut.com/bookavailability.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;reese wrote:Does anybody know anything about a man named Ogden Kraut?
Update 2:One of the most renown of all “independents,” Ogden Kraut was set apart as a “Seventy” by Joseph W. Musser in the mid-1940s, but afterwards served a mission for the Church. Excommunicated in 1972 for “teaching and promoting the living of plural marriage in our day,” he went on to champion the cause of polygamy by authoring more than sixty books defending its continued practice. Staying neutral regarding the specific teachings of the larger “groups,” most fundamentalists applauded Kraut’s writings even if they didn’t agree with all of his interpretation of fundamentalist traditions. Though an activist in many ways, he did not support violence or confrontation as a way to promote the practice of plural marriage. His diplomacy earned him the respect of most of the people he met, regardless of their stand on plural marriage.
In one of his more popular publications is 95 Theses, Kraut attempted to mimic Martin Luther who on 31 October 1517 nailed a list of “95 Theses” or problems he had identified with the Catholic Church, on the door of the castle church at Wittenberg, Germany. Some of the “95” topics included by Kraut are unimpressive such as “fear of enemies” and “healing instruments.” However, he also listed the dozen or so more common concerns consistently repeated in fundamentalist literature.
Curiously in all of his writings, it appears that he never explained his beliefs regarding the “one” man mentioned in D&C 132. Reportedly he approached Louis Kelsch to perform some sealings in the early 1970s, but later was influenced by Alex Joseph and Robert C. Crossfield. In 1991, one of his plural wives was asked regarding the sealing authority used to solemnize his own marriages, she paused a moment and then responded, “I’ll have to ask him.” On one occasion he complained: “It is a very perplexing problem today for individuals who want to enter into the law of Abraham, to find someone to perform the sealing, because of the restrictions established by the groups themselves and even some of the independent prophets. If the Lord should reveal to a man and a woman that they are to be joined in the law, and they approach someone they feel has that calling in one of the groups, they are usually told that they must first be baptized into their church group, attend meetings for a year, and pay their tithing to them. The people feel it is priestcraft because it looks like they are required to pay for that ordinance.”
In defense of the distance he kept from the larger polygamist groups, Kraut wrote: “John Taylor authorized and set apart several men to perpetuate the principle of plural marriage and gave them the calling to perform such marriage, regardless of what the Church or the government might say or do... There is no mention of setting up a church, taking tithing, having weekly meetings, or setting up a colony somewhere. Their calling (or keys) was to (1) live plural marriage, (2) perform plural marriage sealings, and (3) set apart others with this same calling.”
Shortly before his death in July of 2002, Kraut penned his opinion of the status of modern polygamy: “The fulness of the Gospel is still alive B seriously wounded, but it does survive. It has been splintered and the splinters have splinters B who disagree over who has the most ‘authority’ or the most ‘keys.’ But a few righteous Saints still defend the restored Gospel and its eternal Priesthood laws as given to Joseph Smith, scattered though they may be.” He also added: “The Mormon Church believes Joseph Smith is a prophet and so do the Fundamentalists; so why are they at such odds with each other? The answer is simple: one believes everything the Prophet Joseph taught, and the other does not. And the gap grows wider.”
That was a very interesting interview. Thanks for the link! (Kraut comes on at 23:40).Rand wrote:I found this at: http://www.morningliberty.com/2010/05/2 ... den-kraut/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
HeirofNumenor wrote:In other words he is an apostate who didn't believe that God would have His prophets do something different. He did a lot of intellectual research and used his research to change his opinions, and pushed out the Holy Ghost.
Same here (with the exception of reading it on my mission).iamse7en wrote:I first read "Jesus Was Married" on my mission, and I had no idea it was written by an ex'd fundamentalist. It was a great book. I like a lot of his books. Good research. I don't agree with all of his conclusions, but I could say the same about lots of authors I love reading.
Before we were born, we listened to two different programs presented for this earth. The devil's plan was not that he would let people kill, rob, rape, go to war and do evil. Absolutely not! Rather, he said, "I'm going to save everyone; I'm going to make them obey. I'm going to establish federal police, state police, city police, officers and agents. I'll issue thousands and thousands of laws, codes, statutes, rules and regulations for the people to obey. I will make people get licenses, permits, charters, and exemptions. They will need to be finger-printed, photographed, registered, and computerized. They will be identified in numerous ways including numbering.
And, we are going to protect them by offering many different ways to get welfare, food stamps, grants, loans, aid--even foreign aid. And we will institute a complete taxing system to tax everyone except those who are on our welfare programs.
I’m excited to talk to Anne Wilde about her own polygamist marriage to Ogden Kraut. She was the second wife of Ogden. We’ll also talk a little bit about Jesus. Was he a polygamist?
That is a good clarification,. As said in many of the responses above, he was a fundamentalist. However, his books are often more like collections of quotes than something written by himself. So if one is interested in the gift of tongues, three Nephites, or dreams or something else, one can check his books and read quote after quote about the topic. Usually it is pretty easy to skip the fundamentalist stuff in them. And not all of his books have any fundamentalist agenda at all. Many orthodox Mormons enjoy his books too.gardener4life wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:39 pmMost comments here bring to light the fact that he is a teacher and followed the gospel etc, but fail to bring up he was excommunicated. When you are excommunicated there's a reason. No offense but I think some of the answers above are misleading about him. If you don't say it like how it is people will get confused and start looking at sources of teaching not approved by the Lord.