Don’t be ‘alarmed’ if elderly die after receiving COVID vaccine

[SPIRIT]

Doctor on CNN: Don’t be ‘alarmed’ if elderly die after receiving COVID vaccine

"This is appalling and utterly evil! Please see the agenda they are putting forth"

Dr. Kelly Moore said that people 'should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility.'

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/docto ... must_reads

[Original_Intent]

So first, if we didn't mask, we were killing grandma.

Then they flip the script and say "This vaccine may kill grandma, but it's for the Greater Good."

Come Quickly, Lord.

[Luke]

So first, if we didn't mask, we were killing grandma.

Then they flip the script and say "This vaccine may kill grandma, but it's for the Greater Good."

Come Quickly, Lord.

Shows that they actually don't give a toss about grandma

[Robin Hood]

Doctor on CNN: Don’t be ‘alarmed’ if elderly die after receiving COVID vaccine

"This is appalling and utterly evil! Please see the agenda they are putting forth"

Dr. Kelly Moore said that people 'should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility.'

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/docto ... must_reads

It's ok SPIRIT. They're allowed to die from a vaccine, but heaven forbid they die with Covid.

[markharr]

Wasn't it already obvious that they don't care about the elderly when Cuomo and other governors murdered thousands of them?

[NewEliza]

As soon as they can get the older generations gone, young voters can really take over.

[David13]

Doctor on CNN: Don’t be ‘alarmed’ if elderly die after receiving COVID vaccine

"This is appalling and utterly evil! Please see the agenda they are putting forth"

Dr. Kelly Moore said that people 'should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility.'

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/docto ... must_reads

It's ok SPIRIT. They're allowed to die from a vaccine, but heaven forbid they die with Covid.

No, not heaven forbid.

It is hell they are invoking with the hoax and the Satanic mask and the Satanic vaccine.

"... but they will use hell to forbid they die with Covid."
dc

[tdj]

That statement tells me they expect this to happen in large numbers. The flu vaccine kills off a few folks every year, and leaves them with that freaky Guillian Barre thing

[Rose Garden]

My dad is 85 and disabled from a stroke he had a couple of years ago. He got the flu shot last week sometime and hasn't felt well since. He's not eating well and feels very weak. I'm really frustrated that they tout the flu shot as necessary when they must know that it affects people that way.

[Rose Garden]

Here's the original article and it is very concerning to me: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/health/c ... index.html.

The doctor who voted against administering the vaccine has spent her career studying vaccines in the elderly. She says they don't work the same as in younger people but they don't bother to test in older people before administering them.

Also, the logic behind vaccinating the elderly in the care centers right from the start is flawed. The guy advocating it says one big reason is because it means the difference between 2 trips to vaccinate or 4, because the elderly can't go to be vaccinated. What he fails to mention is that the staff who would be vaccinated in the first round are totally capable of going somewhere else to get vaccinated. There's no need to do 2 extra trips for the people who work there.

Additionally, the full quote about not being alarmed leaves me feeling uncomfortable:

"We would not at all be surprised to see, coincidentally, vaccination happening and then having someone pass away a short time after they receive a vaccine, not because it has anything to do with the vaccination but just because that's the place where people at the end of their lives reside," Moore said.

"One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes."

I feel like this leaves the door open to dismiss any deaths related to vaccination as deaths that would have occurred anyway.

Anyway, I'm unhappy with this article and plan on talking to my mom about making sure my dad is not vaccinated until there is more information on how it affects the elderly.

[Silver Pie]

I remember reading this some days ago and was like, "What!?"

Rose Garden, I hope your dad recovers from the shot.

This sounds like the perfect way to kill people in plain sight and get away with it. Great solution to too many elderly on social security, no? (No!)

I wonder if I'll be on their hit list in 7 or 10 years, even if I'm living at home self-sufficiently.

Here's the original article and it is very concerning to me: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/health/c ... index.html.

The doctor who voted against administering the vaccine has spent her career studying vaccines in the elderly. She says they don't work the same as in younger people but they don't bother to test in older people before administering them.

Also, the logic behind vaccinating the elderly in the care centers right from the start is flawed. The guy advocating it says one big reason is because it means the difference between 2 trips to vaccinate or 4, because the elderly can't go to be vaccinated. What he fails to mention is that the staff who would be vaccinated in the first round are totally capable of going somewhere else to get vaccinated. There's no need to do 2 extra trips for the people who work there.

Additionally, the full quote about not being alarmed leaves me feeling uncomfortable:

"We would not at all be surprised to see, coincidentally, vaccination happening and then having someone pass away a short time after they receive a vaccine, not because it has anything to do with the vaccination but just because that's the place where people at the end of their lives reside," Moore said.

"One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes."

I feel like this leaves the door open to dismiss any deaths related to vaccination as deaths that would have occurred anyway.

Anyway, I'm unhappy with this article and plan on talking to my mom about making sure my dad is not vaccinated until there is more information on how it affects the elderly.

[Rose Garden]

I remember reading this some days ago and was like, "What!?"

Rose Garden, I hope your dad recovers from the shot.

This sounds like the perfect way to kill people in plain sight and get away with it. Great solution to too many elderly on social security, no? (No!)

I wonder if I'll be on their hit list in 7 or 10 years, even if I'm living at home self-sufficiently.

Here's the original article and it is very concerning to me: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/health/c ... index.html.

The doctor who voted against administering the vaccine has spent her career studying vaccines in the elderly. She says they don't work the same as in younger people but they don't bother to test in older people before administering them.

Also, the logic behind vaccinating the elderly in the care centers right from the start is flawed. The guy advocating it says one big reason is because it means the difference between 2 trips to vaccinate or 4, because the elderly can't go to be vaccinated. What he fails to mention is that the staff who would be vaccinated in the first round are totally capable of going somewhere else to get vaccinated. There's no need to do 2 extra trips for the people who work there.

Additionally, the full quote about not being alarmed leaves me feeling uncomfortable:

"We would not at all be surprised to see, coincidentally, vaccination happening and then having someone pass away a short time after they receive a vaccine, not because it has anything to do with the vaccination but just because that's the place where people at the end of their lives reside," Moore said.

"One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes."

I feel like this leaves the door open to dismiss any deaths related to vaccination as deaths that would have occurred anyway.

Anyway, I'm unhappy with this article and plan on talking to my mom about making sure my dad is not vaccinated until there is more information on how it affects the elderly.

Thanks, Silver Pie. He is doing much better. He ate all his dinner tonight and asked for more.

[Silver Pie]

That's good to hear.

[ATB]

Thumbs up on all these comments. As I mentioned in another thread, depopulation is one of the many goals with this poison. I can't understand why so many members are eagerly awaiting something that they don't need and will harm them. I guess "first, do no harm" isn't taught in med school anymore.

I was watching some football today and one of the announcers mentioned that "with the new vaccine, we'll pack the seats next year". Wth? One more thing I won't be participating in if that's a requirement.

My doc used to try and convince me to get the flu vax and went round n round about. I found out recently that my pop (almost 80) doesn't get them...warmed my heart.

Happy Sabbath.

[SPIRIT]

Why vaccinate our most frail? Odd vote out shows the dilemma
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/04/heal ... index.html


The vote to recommend long-term care residents be among the first to receive the injection was not unanimous.
Out of a panel of 14 CDC advisers, one doctor said no.

[tdj]

Thumbs up on all these comments. As I mentioned in another thread, depopulation is one of the many goals with this poison. I can't understand why so many members are eagerly awaiting something that they don't need and will harm them. I guess "first, do no harm" isn't taught in med school anymore.

I was watching some football today and one of the announcers mentioned that "with the new vaccine, we'll pack the seats next year". Wth? One more thing I won't be participating in if that's a requirement.

My doc used to try and convince me to get the flu vax and went round n round about. I found out recently that my pop (almost 80) doesn't get them...warmed my heart.

Happy Sabbath.

When I was a kid, my mom made me get one every single year in September. And every year between Christmas and February I'd still get sick. More then once I had to miss out on a Christmas party because I had to stay home with the flu.
Since becoming an adult, I no longer take the flu shots and all this time (26yrs) I've only gotten sick a handful of times. And one of those was from Covid.
I'm in no hurry to get this vaccine. I might not even get it at all.

[ATB]

Thumbs up on all these comments. As I mentioned in another thread, depopulation is one of the many goals with this poison. I can't understand why so many members are eagerly awaiting something that they don't need and will harm them. I guess "first, do no harm" isn't taught in med school anymore.

I was watching some football today and one of the announcers mentioned that "with the new vaccine, we'll pack the seats next year". Wth? One more thing I won't be participating in if that's a requirement.

My doc used to try and convince me to get the flu vax and went round n round about. I found out recently that my pop (almost 80) doesn't get them...warmed my heart.

Happy Sabbath.

When I was a kid, my mom made me get one every single year in September. And every year between Christmas and February I'd still get sick. More then once I had to miss out on a Christmas party because I had to stay home with the flu.
Since becoming an adult, I no longer take the flu shots and all this time (26yrs) I've only gotten sick a handful of times. And one of those was from Covid.
I'm in no hurry to get this vaccine. I might not even get it at all.

Good on you. As someone who worked for a Flu vax provider, I don't recommend it, nor the C-19 vax (it's not anything like a Flu vax in the way it works and side-effect aren't discussed much in the media). These viruses mutate, and their side-effects lessen over time as they go through the population. You know you best, so it's obviously your call. Like your mom, most people want to do the right thing, but aren't always correctly informed.

Last year in WA, we had a bad flu year, lots of kids out of school for a many days at a time, but I don't remember anyone losing their job or business over it, or told to lock down, or even wear a mask. It seems like common sense, but if one is sick with anything, stay home.

[tdj]

I looked up the reddit article, and got the impression from reading it that not every latter day saint who attends church wears their mask? Is this true for any of you guys? I know full well there are people on here who refuse to wear a mask, but do you also go to church and are you given a hard time at all about it? We attend in services, and EVERYONE wears a mask. I just assumed it was like that everywhere else.

[EmmaLee]

I looked up the reddit article, and got the impression from reading it that not every latter day saint who attends church wears their mask? Is this true for any of you guys? I know full well there are people on here who refuse to wear a mask, but do you also go to church and are you given a hard time at all about it? We attend in services, and EVERYONE wears a mask. I just assumed it was like that everywhere else.

Our ward started having church at church again back in June - then, for zero stated reason, they stopped in October, and we all went back to having church at home, which we still are. During June - October, we went to church every Sunday, and we never wore a mask. There was another large family (parents and 5 older children), an older couple (in their late 60's), and a single older man (mid-60's) who also never wore a mask, as well as our family of 7 (our youngest son, who attends the YSA ward, also never wore a mask to church). Everyone else wore masks every week, but some would take them off as soon as the closing prayer was over, so, lol - because I guess germs only roam during the actual church service.

There was never a statement given to our area that masks were required to attend church, not on a ward or stake level. They "recommended" it, but never "required" it and certainly never turned anyone away that wasn't wearing one. When we stopped meeting at the building again at the end of October, we were told we'd be having home church at least till January - no reason given. Our local leadership (stake, at least) seems all-in with the masks and now, the vaccines - so it would not surprise me if, when they do try to start church back up again next year - they "require" one or the other. At any rate, no one in our family will be wearing masks to church, ever. I will also mention that there hasn't been one single case of anyone in our ward being sick or diagnosed with covid - and from our many contacts in the stake (we've lived here 33 years and my husband has a stake calling), we know of no one in the stake who has been sick with it either.

[Cruiserdude]

I looked up the reddit article, and got the impression from reading it that not every latter day saint who attends church wears their mask? Is this true for any of you guys? I know full well there are people on here who refuse to wear a mask, but do you also go to church and are you given a hard time at all about it? We attend in services, and EVERYONE wears a mask. I just assumed it was like that everywhere else.

I've only noticed just a few people in all this time that haven't worn a mask. Granted my ward demograph (single adult 35-45... or whatever the age is now) might skew the numbers. I do wear a mask in the church building. I simply respect the request from the leader about wearing the mask in church. I'm fine with that, it doesn't make me feel less truthful or anything.
You just made me realize, I think I pay a lot more attention to my feelings now in this current world scenario we're in. With so much truth hidden, or removed, we kinda have to trust our gut and instinct (our spiritual guidance) ALOT more than usual.... And that's a good thing

[tdj]

I know as soon as I started wearing mine down below my nose so I could breath better, a bulletin came out that displayed proper mask wearing and asked the members not to deviate from that. Of everyone in the building, I was the only one not wearing it proper, so I'm assuming the bulletin may have been inspired by me?

[ATB]

I know as soon as I started wearing mine down below my nose so I could breath better, a bulletin came out that displayed proper mask wearing and asked the members not to deviate from that. Of everyone in the building, I was the only one not wearing it proper, so I'm assuming the bulletin may have been inspired by me?

Funny thing about that is that people think you're wearing it wrong...no, that's intentional, so I can breathe. We've stopped going (currently alphabetical, every other week) until they drop the requirement, and watch it online each week. Since we're new, it's impossible to meet or see anyone. Many have done the same, or don't go for fear of the 'rona and/or are older or have health issues, but it has put the fear of dirt into people. There is such a psychosis about this, that even if all mask requirements were lifted in society, people would still be scared of their own shadows in some parts.

I was in a UPS store today...didnt wear a face diaper and was the only one not doing so, but no one said anything. We went to a restaurant the other night and the greeter asked if I had a mask and I just nodded, but wasn't wearing one...if looks could kill. Costco is about the only place I wear one, but only covering my mouth. I'd probably drop it completely once inside, but my better half isn't quite as brave yet.

Has anyone been kicked out or unserved when not wearing one? This won't end until people stop complying...just like all .gov "mandates". We need a national "Drop the Masquerade" day, that turns into a week, then month, then never again. Who's in?

[EmmaLee]

Has anyone been kicked out or unserved when not wearing one?

Nope, not so far.

[tdj]

I know as soon as I started wearing mine down below my nose so I could breath better, a bulletin came out that displayed proper mask wearing and asked the members not to deviate from that. Of everyone in the building, I was the only one not wearing it proper, so I'm assuming the bulletin may have been inspired by me?

Funny thing about that is that people think you're wearing it wrong...no, that's intentional, so I can breathe. We've stopped going (currently alphabetical, every other week) until they drop the requirement, and watch it online each week. Since we're new, it's impossible to meet or see anyone. Many have done the same, or don't go for fear of the 'rona and/or are older or have health issues, but it has put the fear of dirt into people. There is such a psychosis about this, that even if all mask requirements were lifted in society, people would still be scared of their own shadows in some parts.

I was in a UPS store today...didnt wear a face diaper and was the only one not doing so, but no one said anything. We went to a restaurant the other night and the greeter asked if I had a mask and I just nodded, but wasn't wearing one...if looks could kill. Costco is about the only place I wear one, but only covering my mouth. I'd probably drop it completely once inside, but my better half isn't quite as brave yet.

Has anyone been kicked out or unserved when not wearing one? This won't end until people stop complying...just like all .gov "mandates". We need a national "Drop the Masquerade" day, that turns into a week, then month, then never again. Who's in?

I mentioned this somewhere, may have been on here, but I wasn't allowed into our local sprouts grocery store because my 12yr old special needs daughter wasnt wearing a mask. I was and my husband, but with her sensory issues, she just wont do it. I tried explaining to the woman that she special needs and I just going to run her to the restroom, but nope. When I complained to corporate they sent an email apologizing but still backing the policy. They basically told me to just order online. Which I would do if it weren't for the high cost of shipping.

[EmmaLee]

When the elderly and frail die after receiving the COVID vaccine

by Jon Rappoport

CNN has the story. And it’s quite a story: “Why vaccinate our most frail? Odd vote out shows the dilemma”, December 4.

“The vote to recommend long-term care residents be among the first to receive Covid-19 vaccinations was not unanimous.”

“Out of a panel of 14 CDC vaccine advisers, a lone doctor said no.”

"’Odd woman out, I guess,’ Dr. Helen ‘Keipp’ Talbot, of Vanderbilt University, told her colleagues. ‘I still struggle with this. This was not an easy vote’."

“Talbot was worried about whether the vaccine would even work in such frail, vulnerable patients. Even more, she worried about how it might look if the vaccine failed in that group, or how it would affect public perception if residents died soon after getting the vaccine.”

“The Covid-19 vaccines have not been tested in the frail elderly, many of whom are residents of long-term care facilities.”

Let’s stop here for a moment. First, we learn that the clinical trials of the COVID vaccine have not used the frail and elderly as volunteers. Therefore, there is NO evidence that the vaccine is safe or effective in that very large group. If this doesn’t give the frail and elderly and their families pause for thought, nothing will.

Second, Dr. Talbot is worried about “public perception,” when the elderly die right after getting the vaccination.

Well, what would YOU think if your mother died the day after she received the COVID shot?

The CNN article gets worse. Read on. Next up is a comment from Dr. Kelly Moore, “associate director of the Immunization Action Coalition, which is supporting frontline workers who will administer Covid-19 vaccinations.”

"’Since they [the COVID vaccines] haven't been studied in people in those [elderly] populations, we don't know how well the vaccine will work for them. We know that most vaccines don't work nearly as well in a frail elderly person as they would in someone who is fit and vigorous, even if they happen to be the same age,’ Moore said.”

Again---zero evidence the COVID vaccines work in elderly and frail populations. Most vaccines don’t “work nearly as well.”

CNN: “When shots begin to go into arms of [nursing home and long-term care facility] residents, Moore said Americans need to understand that deaths may occur that won't necessarily have anything to do with the vaccine.”

"’We would not at all be surprised to see, coincidentally, vaccination happening and then having someone pass away a short time after they receive a vaccine, not because it has anything to do with the vaccination but just because that's the place where people at the end of their lives reside,’ Moore said.”

"’One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes’."

Right. Don’t be alarmed.

Don’t worry if people who are doing reasonably well suddenly die right after getting the COVID shot. It’s just a coincidence.

Their long-term health conditions just happened to kick in a day or two after vaccination. Nothing to wonder about.

Don’t kick up a fuss if it’s YOUR father or mother who died. Stay calm. You can be sure the doctors will let you know if your mother died from the vaccine. Of course they will.

Even though the vaccine has never been tested on the elderly and frail, the doctors know whether a death occurred from the vaccination or from other causes. And they’ll tell the truth. They always do.

The doctors quoted in this CNN article are obviously worried about people dying as a result of the vaccine. They know it’s going to happen. They’re thinking out loud about what they can do to stem the tide of public outrage---particularly from the families of those who die.

The best idea they can come up with is: “these people die anyway.”

I remind readers that, for months, I’ve been reporting on the huge percentage of all so-called COVID deaths that have been occurring among the elderly in nursing homes, in long-term care facilities, in hospitals, in their homes.

These people were already suffering from multiple long-term serious health conditions. On top of that, they had been treated for years with an array of toxic medical drugs.

And then, they’re absolutely terrified when they receive a diagnosis of COVID. Then they’re isolated, cut off from family and friends.

And they give up and die.

NO VIRUS IS REQUIRED TO EXPLAIN THESE DEATHS.

This is forced premature killing of old people. It’s murder by COVID diagnosis and isolation.

And now, these people will receive an experimental RNA vaccine, whose effects include auto-immune reactions; the body basically attacks itself.

More killing.

And doctors advising the CDC are telling us not to be alarmed.

The deaths are just routine.

Lots and lots of doctors who know what’s going on are thinking, “What if all this comes back on ME?”

Well, it IS coming back on you, Doctors.

You’re killers in white coats who are supposed to be saving lives.