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by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Confused as usual: You are right. Those blokes are confused. However, it is more correct to simply say this: Neither alarisherem or jan-in-the-ditch truly belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They have to lie to get a temple recommend, if they even have one. They have obviousl...
by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:40 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

All of these other scriptures talk about what will happen in the world to come. They do not talk about overcomming all things now. It will be a long time until you will be able to overcome as the Savior has overcome. No they don't we overcome in this world - read those scriptures again - they are v...
by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:09 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Isn't it sad that the deepest truths of the gospel, spoken by the Lord himself, are trampled under foot and not considered at all? As if Jesus is simply talking about having a meal with him! "When men open their lips against [the truth] they do not injure me, but injure themselves. … When things th...
by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:23 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Confused as usual: Short answer the greater works are referring to family history and ordnance work for the dead . It is work that Christ could not do as it only started after his resurrection. Why is that as there was no physical body prior to this earth life and there is no more mortal probation e...
by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Confused as usual. I am not sure why I wast my time on this - it is very simple... Christ did indeed create Adam and patterned Adam's physical body after his spiritual body as he did not have a physical body - that is what the scripture and church teaches - where is your teaching or scripture just w...
by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:55 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

You are confused as usual.... You cant take one Scripture out of context and deny all the revelations and teachings of the prophets on the subject. We overcome in this world and move on no need for more probation's it serves no purpose. One does not need to live a sinless life but repent and overcom...
by Spaced_Out
Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:38 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Matthew 20:20 ¶ Then came to him the mother of Zebedee’s children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. 21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy king...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

his is how you become perfect. Jesus said be perfect as I am perfect. Revelation says - once we reach that level - we will overcome even as He overcame. The scriptures are clear - crystal clear. You teach MMP as a hidden mystery and deeper doctrine how is it crystal clear. It is not taught in the s...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Well at least you got rid of the angry faces. You should really take the combative language out of your posts. It's a waste of time - stick to the substance of why you think this doctrine is wrong - even a perversion - but your condemnations and accusations are silly and needless and certainly are ...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:23 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Honestly, I am starting to see why Alaris believes in MMP. Parts of the D&C talk about how Christ had to progress to get to where he was in the Pre-existence, much less where he is now. IE He progressed from grace to grace, line upon line, precept upon precept. The scriptures are clear His progress...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:09 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Is this more or less merciful than those here screaming with angry faces that there is only one eternal round for us and that's that! Does this give the Savior more or less power - for all those tripping over themselves to conclude for us that MMP somehow not only cheapens the Savior but makes His ...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Another scripture damming MMP, the resurrection is the redemption of man and those that gain the first resurrection at the second coming . dwell with Christ for ever and ever ie gain eternal life the greatest gift God has to offer... Doctrine and Covenants 76:62 62 These shall dwell in the presence...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:57 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Alright Spaced_Out. For the sake of our positive interactions we have had, I'll give you one last chance as well to engage in a civil, respectful debate. If you can stick to the substance and drop these condemnations and stop misstating me, I'll be happy to continue this conversation. You do not ho...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

And still alaris insists that everybody pray about his false teachings. We're bad if we don't pray. You can see the flaw in his pleading, can't you? I have been praying and fasting and going to Church and attending the temple and reading the scriptures and trying to stay worthy of the constant comp...
by Spaced_Out
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

I hear you. If Heavenly Father was a Savior like Joseph Smith taught, then who did he save? Certainly not Jesus Christ. Who will save your spirit children some day? That is conjecture but it does not teach MMP. There is only one Infinite and eternal sacrifice there can be no more sacrifice Alma 34....
by Spaced_Out
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

I have told you I will be happy to admit I am wrong when a prophet - who has the sole authority to define doctrine - declares it false - or at the judgement bar - whichever happens first. If President Uchtdorf said that and it was an answer to your prayers - great! Pardon my incredulity but every s...
by Spaced_Out
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

I don't believe he is talking about eternal increase. For brevities sake I didn't provide the complete quote but let me share the middle section. Brigham says: We know nothing about how many time it can be divided, and it is just so with regard to the lives in us, in animals, in vegetation, in shru...
by Spaced_Out
Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:57 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

I have told you I will be happy to admit I am wrong when a prophet - who has the sole authority to define doctrine - declares it false - or at the judgement bar - whichever happens first. If President Uchtdorf said that and it was an answer to your prayers - great! Pardon my incredulity but every s...
by Spaced_Out
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:41 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Brigham Young explained how multiple resurrections work. He said: Take, for instance, a grain of sand. You can not divide it so small that it can not be divided again - it is capable of infinite division. We know nothing about how many times it can e divided, and it is just so with regard to the li...
by Spaced_Out
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

I shared with Sarah my personal feelings and beliefs. The only disgusting aspects in this thread is the behavior of those who cannot abide my beliefs or the sharing of them without stooping to this base behavior. This opposition only reinforces my beliefs. We allow all men that same privelege. Let ...
by Spaced_Out
Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:33 am
Forum: Last Days / Signs of the Times
Topic: Second Civil War - REFERENCES
Replies: 13
Views: 1421

Re: Second Civil War - REFERENCES

There are a couple discussions about a coming civil war. I was wondering if anyone has compiled a complete list of references to a second civil war or internal strife/conflict in the US? All I'm looking for is the references and not peoples interpretation. I have seen a few references already but t...
by Spaced_Out
Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

We were reading these verses in Sunday School yesterday and it made me think of this thread. 22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones; 23 And God saw these souls that they ...
by Spaced_Out
Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Thanks Sarah - I've said from the beginning I don't have all the answers but have shared the ones I've received to some degree. I do agree there could be some choice given at some point - accept your inheritance or choose to move on and earn a higher inheritance and better resurrection. Perhaps Ada...
by Spaced_Out
Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

I never said I speak for God - in fact I keep inviting you all to speak to God. You can pray and ask God if I was moved upon by the Spirit to write this, in fact I challenge you to. The limited substance offered has been on repeat for how many pages now? How many of Silver's many many posts have ha...
by Spaced_Out
Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:18 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Standing before that judgment bar we won't need to be chided or corrected for standing in the presence of His love will reflect perfectly those times in which we were inadequately reflecting His love. This is one of our fallacies as a people and a culture... An overemphasis on correct doctrine at t...
by Spaced_Out
Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

We were reading these verses in Sunday School yesterday and it made me think of this thread. 22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones; 23 And God saw these souls that they ...
by Spaced_Out
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: When Will The City Of Zion Be Built?
Replies: 29
Views: 2323

Re: When Will The City Of Zion Be Built?

Besides all of the scriptures that contradict the idea that the New Jerusalem shall be built before the Second Coming (which I’ve not time to address at the moment) does it not strike anyone besides myself that if it were true, it would undermine the element of surprise that is supposedly associate...
by Spaced_Out
Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

Don't take my word for it. Pray about it in humble sincerity. I told you I planted the seed as in Alma 32 and pray and meditate on it day and nigh watering it and dunging it, responding to all your post which you have no explanation for., but the seed keeps dying therefore I know with a perfect kno...
by Spaced_Out
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:48 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

For one star differeth from another star in glory.... 1 Corinthians 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celest...
by Spaced_Out
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Multiple Mortal Probations Article
Replies: 590
Views: 32024

Re: Multiple Mortal Probations Article

For one star differeth from another star in glory.... 1 Corinthians 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celest...

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