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by Lizzy60
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)
Replies: 131
Views: 11121

Re: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)

French Philosopher Montaigne: "He who stands for everything, stands for nothing." It is against nature. "Like" cannot procreate. This was the first commandment. In the interest and the preservation of society, such things should be recognized as non-conducive to progression or development. In a ver...
by Lizzy60
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)
Replies: 131
Views: 11121

Re: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)

Welcome to the LDS church, only-slightly-future version. It does remind me of the pre-1978 change in Priesthood for all worthy males. Previous to that time, at least one bishop just took the matter in his own hands, and ordained an African-American. I THINK he was ex-communicated at the time, but s...
by Lizzy60
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)
Replies: 131
Views: 11121

Re: Thread Deleted

Someone asked if this Bishop and his wife are pro-practicing gay supporters, or just supporters of gay people who are not having gay sex. Yes, they are pro-practicing-gay, pro-gay-marriage. One of the speakers talks about her "wife" and the joy she has found after coming out as gay, and getting marr...
by Lizzy60
Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:57 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)
Replies: 131
Views: 11121

Re: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)

Well, in any case, I think its important that we have all of the facts before anyone judges this ward or bishop as being in apostasy. Reaching out to others and trying to make them feel included, welcomed, and loved, doesn't sound like apostasy to me. When I was living in my little hell and was sur...
by Lizzy60
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)
Replies: 131
Views: 11121

Re: Apostasy in Riverton (Bishop Paul Augenstein)

I would find another ward/stake to attend. I predict we will see more of this. We are literally seeing things turned upside down. Opponents of gay marriage are portrayed as "Westboro Baptist Church" crazy bigots, and the leaders of the LDS Church are being blamed for teen suicide because they preach...
by Lizzy60
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Last Days / Signs of the Times
Topic: America is deteriorating; just like the world.
Replies: 18
Views: 2488

Re: America is deteriorating; just like the world.

Our murder rate is lower than the 1960's ONLY if you disregard the million-plus babies we in the US murder every year. Abortion isn't murder. It's a sin, it's a poor choice, it's unfortunate, but it's not murder. The baby is alive. Then the baby is dead. The act causing the death of the baby is tot...
by Lizzy60
Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Last Days / Signs of the Times
Topic: America is deteriorating; just like the world.
Replies: 18
Views: 2488

Re: America is deteriorating; just like the world.

I believe things are going to get bad (very bad) sometime in the future as explained in the scriptures, but that time is not now. 1.Humans live longer, healthier lives than any time in the past. 2.There is less hunger and poverty than any time in the past. 3.And according to this news article, the ...
by Lizzy60
Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What are your favorite professional sports teams?
Replies: 36
Views: 3538

Re: What are your favorite professional sports teams?

Today's spectator sports (college and professional) are symptoms of our collective idolatry and immersion in Babylon.

Yeah, that's my opinion, and most don't agree, but I've never wanted to be part of the "popular" crowd.
by Lizzy60
Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What are your favorite professional sports teams?
Replies: 36
Views: 3538

Re: What are your favorite professional sports teams?

The quote above is from Avraham Gileadi's "Twelve Diatribes of Modern Israel.

I found the entire article on the website By Study and Also By Faith, from the Neal A Maxwell Institute.

https://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscr ... 9&index=12
by Lizzy60
Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What are your favorite professional sports teams?
Replies: 36
Views: 3538

Re: What are your favorite professional sports teams?

As the decline of Roman civilization set in, the games became the total preoccupation of the elite as well as the masses; people made no pretense at anything higher in life. They devoted exorbitant resources to the games, so much that charitable programs rated a poor second.55 Of all peoples in the ...
by Lizzy60
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Principles of Liberty
Topic: Current bill to make it illegal to record own conversation
Replies: 14
Views: 1045

Re: Current bill to make it illegal to record own conversation

Bishop's interviews have hit the news with the resignation of Rob Porter.
It doesn't paint the church in a good light.
by Lizzy60
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: When Spandex Attacks!
Replies: 33
Views: 2364

Re: When Spandex Attacks!

When my daughter was at BYU in the late 90's, they tried to make a rule that the girls could not wear the strap of their backpacks or purses diagonally across the front of their bodies, as it defined their chest area too much. However, multiple earrings were fine. She had 5 piercings total in her ea...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:06 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

We are just as capable of choosing what kind of soil we are, as we are capable of choosing whether we are a wheat seed or a tare seed, or whether we are born a sheep or a goat. We had agency for eons of time before this mortal probation. We made choices, and we continue to make choices, and God is s...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

As a mortal parent, I see one of my children active in the church, while another has decided he doesn't believe in religion. Am I now capable of rendering final judgment on them? Of course not. I don't know if the wayward child is an Alma the Younger or a Lemuel. But, I know that God knows. So if th...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

So are you saying that God does not know what kind of soil you are? Do you believe that The Eternal Father does not know who will ultimately be exalted, and who will receive a lesser reward?
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

You may benefit from reading the parable of the wheat and tares. There is no botanical way that a wheat seed that is planted can grow into a tare. Just like a sheep cannot turn into a goat. The problem is with your metaphor. We aren't born wheat or tares, we become wheat or tares through our choice...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:09 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

EVERYBODY born on Earth comes from the wheat. Most people just become blinded. You may benefit from reading the parable of the wheat and tares. There is no botanical way that a wheat seed that is planted can grow into a tare. Just like a sheep cannot turn into a goat. The problem is with your metap...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

There are two groups of people here on Earth. Wheat, whose Father is God, and tares, whose father is the Devil.

Jesus taught this very plainly, both in a parable, and in direct language to the scribes and Pharisees who were asking who He was, and what His lineage was.
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

From John 8 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your fat...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

There are three groups of spirits. There is the group that chose to follow Lucifer and to not come to earth to receive a body. Then there are the wheat that Christ has sown here, also known as His sheep, which are numbered unto Him, and of which none will be lost. Then there are the tares that the ...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: Principles of Liberty
Topic: Current bill to make it illegal to record own conversation
Replies: 14
Views: 1045

Re: Current bill to make it illegal to record own conversation

It is shameful that the Church is on the side of protecting those in power (the leadership) rather than those with little power. Just recently, a Bishop in Utah was convicted of sexual molestation. It's ridiculous to do MORE to keep interviews secret, when there is the real possibility of abuse by l...
by Lizzy60
Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: undecided premortal spirits
Replies: 25
Views: 2244

Re: undecided premortal spirits

There are three groups of spirits. There is the group that chose to follow Lucifer and to not come to earth to receive a body. Then there are the wheat that Christ has sown here, also known as His sheep, which are numbered unto Him, and of which none will be lost. Then there are the tares that the d...
by Lizzy60
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Dow drops record 1175 today
Replies: 9
Views: 532

Re: Dow drops record 1175 today

Futures markets for tomorrow, beginning with the Nikkei 225 which opens in 2 hours, show 5-7% drops right now. It's looking like more than a "correction".
by Lizzy60
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: News
Topic: Presidency of the Seventy letter to affirm LDS/BSA Relationship
Replies: 47
Views: 6162

Re: Presidency of the Seventy letter to affirm LDS/BSA Relationship

Why? When Joseph F Smith partnered with the Boy Scouts, it was a relationship that helped to normalize the Church. It has brought in lots of converts and done lots of good will with this partnership. That was when the Boy Scouts had standards and goals that closely aligned with the church. That's n...
by Lizzy60
Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Progression from Telestial Kingdom
Replies: 124
Views: 5832

Re: Progression from Telestial Kingdom

Also, any sealing ordinances done here on Earth are not valid in the eternities unless the person is worthy of the Celestial Kingdom, where the Family of Christ will reside.
by Lizzy60
Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Progression from Telestial Kingdom
Replies: 124
Views: 5832

Re: Progression from Telestial Kingdom

The prophet. I was sealed to my wife in the temple. You are not actually sealed TO your wife. You are married to her, and you have had the blessings of Abraham Isaac and Jacob sealed upon each of you, and this is contingent upon your righteousness, of course. And then there is the Holy Spirit of Pr...
by Lizzy60
Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: The name of Jesus Christ
Replies: 16
Views: 1457

Re: The name of Jesus Christ

Heaven forbid we should be anything like our Protestant friends. Geesh. 2 Nephi 25:26 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their...
by Lizzy60
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: JFK files bush connected
Replies: 7
Views: 584

Re: JFK files bush connected

I agree. I just watched "JFK to 911 - Everything is a Rich Man's Trick" on YouTube. It's done by historian Francis Richard Conolly and is excellent.

i highly recommend it, unless you're queasy about knowing just how bad the Gadiantons are, and have been for over a century.

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