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by brlenox
Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Emergency Preparedness & Self-sufficiency
Topic: Harvesting carrot seeds?
Replies: 10
Views: 204

Re: Harvesting carrot seeds?

eddie wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:31 pm
I'm only interested in obtaining donut seeds.
Those can be found at this link:
http://www.cheerios.com/en/Articles/Donut-Seeds.aspx
by brlenox
Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:26 pm
Forum: Emergency Preparedness & Self-sufficiency
Topic: Harvesting carrot seeds?
Replies: 10
Views: 204

Re: Harvesting carrot seeds?

So I've been wondering how to harvest carrot seeds. The key here is that they are biennial. That means they will not produce seed the first year but will make the seeds the second year of the plant. There are a lot of plants like this, like kale and swiss chard. Some types of radishes can either be...
by brlenox
Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:47 pm
Forum: Emergency Preparedness & Self-sufficiency
Topic: Harvesting carrot seeds?
Replies: 10
Views: 204

Re: Harvesting carrot seeds?

So I've been wondering how to harvest carrot seeds. The key here is that they are biennial. That means they will not produce seed the first year but will make the seeds the second year of the plant. There are a lot of plants like this, like kale and swiss chard. Some types of radishes can either be...
by brlenox
Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:58 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How to gain a testimony of the current lds church
Replies: 43
Views: 987

Re: How to gain a testimony of the current lds church

Wonderful post, thank you. Sometimes I don't even want the words in my head, although I'm not impressionable, some are. I'm not impressionable = You are closed minded. You think that is a good thing? The best way to gain a testimony of the church is to ignore things that should never be ignored. Yo...
by brlenox
Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:58 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How do we best educate adult LDS members w/o losing them?
Replies: 79
Views: 1975

Re: How do we best educate adult LDS members w/o losing them?

Why would you think think that leaving the church isn't hurting them? Why would you think that leaving the only way back to Heavenly Father isn't a wound that won't be fixed? (Spiritual wounds don't heal on their own without help.) If you remember this, then of course you think that if they leave w...
by brlenox
Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How do we best educate adult LDS members w/o losing them?
Replies: 79
Views: 1975

Re: How do we best educate adult LDS members w/o losing them?

Arenera wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:41 pm
mes5464 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:44 am
I don't understand this thread. I just read the church's post on the origin of the Book of Abraham and I am at a loss as to what is the controversy?
Enthusiastic enmity...
Fabulous response +100...
by brlenox
Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:27 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: My favorite Joseph Smith story ever. What's yours?
Replies: 42
Views: 967

Re: My favorite Joseph Smith story ever. What's yours?

I understand completely why you'd say that. I've been warned...twice now. So if I'm a troublemaker it won't be worth the effort to stay and provoke. If I'm sincere then I have to change my tone which is my plan. I do want to dialogue with you guys about JS but I'll never understand the sensitivity ...
by brlenox
Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:50 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How do we best educate adult LDS members w/o losing them?
Replies: 79
Views: 1975

Re: How do we best educate adult LDS members w/o losing them?

Stop complicating salvation. The rock is Jesus Christ. The wise man built his house upon the rock. Faith in Jesus Christ alone is what should be taught. D&C 11:1 A great and marvelous work is about to come forth among the children of men. 2 Behold, I am God; give heed to my word, which is quick and...
by brlenox
Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:59 pm
Forum: Last Days / Signs of the Times
Topic: A scripture for all who put personal revelation (falsely called) above prophetic counsel
Replies: 146
Views: 4439

Re: A scripture for all who put personal revelation (falsely called) above prophetic counsel

Thank you for sharing LDS Anarchist. Your and my revelations seem to be of the same kind. I, more than most people, know the damaging effects of following an emotional revelation. I basically ruined my teenage years and was almost thrown out of college for “stalking” (I wasnt) because I believed I ...
by brlenox
Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:30 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: My favorite Joseph Smith story ever. What's yours?
Replies: 42
Views: 967

Re: My favorite Joseph Smith story ever. What's yours?

I believe all these threads posted, are meant to demean Joseph Smith's character, causing doubt as to him being a Prophet. The poster is manipulating the thread with his thanks and praise, in an attempt to seem sincere. Posting stories like this, from people who had been excommunicated, is far from...
by brlenox
Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:36 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

I'm glad I participated. I have no I'll feelings towards anyone. I point out ad hominems because they are fallacious arguments and irrelevant to the topic at hand. This can be useful to others who are reading so they understand that me as a person is not the topic and that arguments should stand on...
by brlenox
Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

I'm glad I participated. I have no I'll feelings towards anyone. I point out ad hominems because they are fallacious arguments and irrelevant to the topic at hand. This can be useful to others who are reading so they understand that me as a person is not the topic and that arguments should stand on...
by brlenox
Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

I'm glad I participated. I have no I'll feelings towards anyone. I point out ad hominems because they are fallacious arguments and irrelevant to the topic at hand. This can be useful to others who are reading so they understand that me as a person is not the topic and that arguments should stand on...
by brlenox
Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:44 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: My favorite Joseph Smith story ever. What's yours?
Replies: 42
Views: 967

Re: My favorite Joseph Smith story ever. What's yours?

One of my favorites of all time recorded in the autobiography of Parley P. Pratt: Chapter 26 I must not forget to state that when we arrived in Richmond as prisoners there were some fifty others, mostly heads of families, who had been marched from Caldwell on foot (distance 30 miles), and were now p...
by brlenox
Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:42 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

I 'll add a personal observation. If this discussion had never introduced the arguments of men for justifying what constitutes a valid discussion then we would not be subject to the conditions that those arguments impose. In such a situation it is a wonderfully valid and recommended approach to shar...
by brlenox
Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:13 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Brlenox, actually, when Arenera said to Finrock, "You think you are the only one to have the Spirit" - that is a form of ad hominem. It's a personal attack, an accusation, that attempts to define Finrock as unfair, superior, and condescending to others. And it is not what Finrock actually believes....
by brlenox
Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:35 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

In the end it is a fact in my life that I was lead to the LoF by the Holy Ghost. I had heard of them and knew they existed, but had not read them or read only parts. At a time in my life more than any other time in my life when I was humble, had been brought low, and was ready to be taught by God H...
by brlenox
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:06 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

JaredBees wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:49 pm
I stand by what I said, and tell you with confidence that you miss apply your argument with me.
I hope is true.
by brlenox
Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:52 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

we all connect the dots how we will... in the end-- fidelity to Christ is the only way. AS we are yoked to Christ many of our cherished beliefs will be validated. Many won't. this is ok. Because angst only comes from being founded on the rock of man. When we are founded on the Rock of Christ it is ...
by brlenox
Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:10 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Help Me Understand Why it Takes "Courage" to Come Forward Now
Replies: 23
Views: 905

Re: Help Me Understand Why it Takes "Courage" to Come Forward Now

Look, I'm a very active Mormon but I have no problem separating what was pure divine intelligence and what was immoral. If you haven't read the Nauvoo essay then I don't understand how you can say I made an "erroneous comparison." Tell me this. Prophets have always done immoral / grotesque things t...
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:08 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Help Me Understand Why it Takes "Courage" to Come Forward Now
Replies: 23
Views: 905

Re: Help Me Understand Why it Takes "Courage" to Come Forward Now

Playing devil's advocate here. There is more than enough evidence that Joseph Smith and Brigham Young committed the very crimes you'd kill men for doing today. I'm all for justice today but we can't be credible if we aren't willing to examine the very mistakes we collectively made in the past. What...
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:38 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

One of the problems is I do not think we are recognizing that the lectures where assigned to a committee to be organized: It is instructive to review the evidence that links Joseph Smith and others to the writing of the Lectures. First, perhaps, it should be noted that a committee of four men—Joseph...
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:31 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Here is a question to ponder. Did Sidney Rigdon know God had a body? Why would he phrase it that way in the lectures? Why did Jospeh never say anything about it and approve it? Jospeh was pretty adamant about false doctrines especially the nature of the Godhead of which he had learned first hand ab...
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:19 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Question 3: How many personages are there in the Godhead? Two: the Father and the Son. (5:1) God is a Spirit? Christ is a personage of tabernacle, like man? How many personages are in the Godhead? So give this to someone who knows nothing about the LoF, and hasn't spent years trying to figure it ou...
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:01 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Question 3: How many personages are there in the Godhead? Two: the Father and the Son. (5:1) God is a Spirit? Christ is a personage of tabernacle, like man? How many personages are in the Godhead? So give this to someone who knows nothing about the LoF, and hasn't spent years trying to figure it ou...
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:47 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Arenera wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:45 am
brlenox wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:42 am
However, I appreciate your efforts at presenting the appearance of a modicum of study and research that minimizes this as just one more rant by someone who didn't have a clue.
You are so devious.
:D
by brlenox
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:42 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Arenera, The errors in this case are not in the LoF, L5, but in your understanding/interpretation. L5 and what is being taught there is truly a beautiful, eye opening, and wonderful truth about Heavenly Father, the Godhead, and us. The seeming error and contradiction does not actually exist. I see ...
by brlenox
Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:05 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

The LoF don’t compete with scripture, especially when there are some errors, like in L5. They are ok for a teaching manual in the 1800’s. Most people are confused thinking JS wrote them, he didn’t. And where are the Book of Mormon scriptures, the most correct book in the world? Arenera, The errors ...
by brlenox
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

Let us here observe, that three things are necessary in order that any rational and intelligent being may exercise faith in God unto life and salvation. First, the idea that he actually exists. Secondly, a correct idea of his character, perfections, and attributes. Thirdly, an actual knowledge that...
by brlenox
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:33 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.
Replies: 164
Views: 2714

Re: LoF: God is NOT a personage of spirit.

And through the whole history of the scheme of life and salvation, it is a matter of faith: every man received according to his faith—according as his faith was, so were his blessings and privileges; and nothing was withheld from him when his faith was sufficient to receive it. He could stop the mo...

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