The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

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The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:29 pm

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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby firefly » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:00 pm

I saw the other videos of the ISON comet with the wings. I'm convinced. This is not a normal comet. How do we know there will be a debris field?
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:29 pm

[quote="firefly"]I saw the other
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby gkearney » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:33 pm

Well all comets have debris fields. However earth will be passing through this one some 2 to 3 month after the comet itself has passed by. In that time the debris field will have spread out a considerable amount so as to cover a large area of the surface of the earth.

What I find interesting is that we still cling to the old idea of comets being indicators of doom. You would think we live in the dark ages or something. There is nothing to suggest that this comet is anything other than just a comet. It will likely provide us with some interesting night viewing then it will sweep on out into space never to return.

In a few years time another comet will sweep in towards the sun and this list will again fill up with links to Youtube posting pronouncing that this new comet is a sign of the times and we all face doom for sure. Everyone will be sure they are right, really sure, no this time is different from ISON really...believe us it is...really!
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:14 pm

[quote="gkearney"]Well all


Imagine if it is a super dense and magnetic remnant from a super nova. Not only could it be the reason why earths magnetic poles have been moving so quickly in a straight line, but it could cause them to flip when it goes by causing some major earth adjustments. Also, if it is super dense and magnetic just think of what going through a cloud of super dense and magnetic dust is going to do to earth's atmosphere...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AUljj2XTSI
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby gkearney » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:46 pm

Imagine that is is just a comet.
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby firefly » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:08 pm

gkearney wrote:Imagine that is is just a comet.


Let's look at NASA's image of what they report as the comet ISON.
I went to this site http://hla.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/display?image=hlsp_ison_hst_wfc3_130430_f606w_v1&autoscale=&title=Ison+130430+WFC3+F606W
found the comet and then darkened it until I could see for myself this same image shown below of comet ISON. (To find the comet you have to go to the website, unzoom two levels, and then darken the image three times. You should see what you are looking for in the top half.)




Comets are balls of ice and rock. This is not a comet.
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby AshleyB » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:28 pm

The idea that comets are balls of ice and rock is false. Rock yes, Ice no.. You need to look up electric comets from the electric universe model. The reason comets have "Tails" are not because of ice particles melting away. These tails are called plasma discharges. This happens when these objects have a differing charge positive/negative from the other objects it comes into contact with. Namely the sun. At times we can see venus has a faint tail too. This happens when Venus comes in closer contact to the earth and it causes venus to let off these plasma discharges. You can see the same phenomenon between Jupiter and one of its moons. I kind of see it like how a little kid can go down a slide and when you grab the kid you get shocked. Charge builds up and then it has to discharge. These long range comets which go way out into space tend to have the most spectacular tails after coming back into close contact with the sun.
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby firefly » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:21 pm

AshleyB wrote:The idea that comets are balls of ice and rock is false. Rock yes, Ice no.. You need to look up electric comets from the electric universe model. The reason comets have "Tails" are not because of ice particles melting away. These tails are called plasma discharges. This happens when these objects have a differing charge positive/negative from the other objects it comes into contact with. Namely the sun. At times we can see venus has a faint tail too. This happens when Venus comes in closer contact to the earth and it causes venus to let off these plasma discharges. You can see the same phenomenon between Jupiter and one of its moons. I kind of see it like how a little kid can go down a slide and when you grab the kid you get shocked. Charge builds up and then it has to discharge. These long range comets which go way out into space tend to have the most spectacular tails after coming back into close contact with the sun.




Can you show me images of other electric comets that look like this comet?

So you are saying the light coming off from the sides of the comet are plasma discharges. Why do plasma discharges last so long? Shouldn't discharges last as long as a bolt of lighting ? How does the comet stay charged, so that it can keep discharging?

Why are there two evenly sized discharges happening at once, about 120 degrees apart from each other? where are they discharging to?
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:07 pm

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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby firefly » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:20 pm

No, the electric comet model does not predict nor explain these images.
The electric comet theory is used to explain the formation and shape of the comet's tail. When you look at these images the two wings from ISON are 120 degrees apart from each other. When you darken the image the comet's tail completely disappears and all you are left with are three lights. The "wings" form two straight lines that have distinct edges on all sides. Discharges do not have such distinct edge, but instead have a trail off much such as we see in a comet's tail.

Because of the sharpness of the lines, three objects inside comet ISON is a better explanation.
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby samizdat » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:07 pm

Explained with this video. This is PARALLAX. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puHE9yhR ... AvR_D-nIWQ
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby firefly » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:50 pm

The idea of parallax is that you get a streaking image of the foreground objects due to the changing position of the telescope. In this case its the Hubble as it orbits the earth. The foreground object would be ISON. In this youtube video (between the 4 and 7 minute marker), the presenter shows images showing there is a problem with the parallax theory for the ISON's wings. He states that if this streaking motion were truly due to parallax then we should also see that same streaking motion with the tail and debris behind ISON. When you look at the image of the comet you can see that tail remains in one direction and not in the two or three parallax streaking you would expect. If the Parallax explains the lines inside the comet's coma, then you should also see the same parallax with the comet's tail, and you do not.

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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby SkyBird » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:16 pm

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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:56 pm

Russians;ISON'S Orbit Changing.
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:09 am

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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby Bgood » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:55 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKFXcaR5 ... NxIKNizOiQ
Comet ISON Debris Hitting Earth Now (NASA Preparing)
By November we will see Ison coming into the Atmosphere, the Tail that is bringing Tons of Debris some the size of Cities.
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Re: The ISON Debris Tail 3 Jan., 2014

Postby SkyBird » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:48 am

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