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Possible civil unrest/UN troops in US

Postby minuet1 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:41 am

So what do you think the possibilities are that the "worst case scenario" will really happen?

LUBBOCK (CBSDFW.COM) - A Texas leader is warning of what he calls a ‘civil war’ and possible invasion of United Nations troops if President Barack Obama is re-elected.


http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/texa ... e-elected/
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Re: Possible civil unrest/UN troops in US

Postby Nan » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:41 am

I don't know what the chances are that civil unrest will happen. On my list, it is actually pretty far down. I think economics are going to get a lot worse before civil unrest will happen.
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Postby sadie_Mormon » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:46 am

Good for that Judge. Wonder how long he'll be "sticking around" after saying that out loud. In my mind I imagine it being really bad but we really have no idea of the magnitude of the aftershock. Consider what broke out on a small scale during events like Rodney King where they burnt down a city. Can you image that in a much larger magnitude? It would be explosive.
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Postby Tribunal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:05 am

Nan wrote:I don't know what the chances are that civil unrest will happen. On my list, it is actually pretty far down. I think economics are going to get a lot worse before civil unrest will happen.

I disagree. I believe they are one and the same (election and economy) that might just spark a civil conflict rather soon. Governments throughout the US are preparing for such.
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Postby Tribunal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:26 am

Tribunal wrote:
Nan wrote:I don't know what the chances are that civil unrest will happen. On my list, it is actually pretty far down. I think economics are going to get a lot worse before civil unrest will happen.

I disagree. I believe they are one and the same (election and economy) that might just spark a civil conflict rather soon. Governments throughout the US are preparing for such.

And might I add that because of government's fears of the economy and election results there are Oath Keeper-type groups forming all over the United States from the federal to local levels.
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Postby imperfectionst » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:27 am

Pure insanity. If anyone is going to spark violence, it's boneheaded paranoids like this cretin.
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Postby patriotsaint » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:41 am

I agree with Nan. Every election cycle people on both sides of the aisle predict doom if their opponents are elected to office. I remember zealous neo-cons squealing that the world would end if BO were elected. Well surprise, surprise....we're still here 4 years later. Now these same people predict the world will implode if he is elected again. They're performing the same chicken little song and dance they do every election cycle.

Presidential politics is part of the "bread and circuses" the puppet masters use to keep the masses busy. It won't be the President that pulls the rug out from under the economy and destroys the dollar....and in my opinion that will be the catalyst to civil unrest if it occurs.
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Re: Possible civil unrest/UN troops in US

Postby Tribunal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:41 am

imperfectionst wrote:Pure insanity. If anyone is going to spark violence, it's boneheaded paranoids like this cretin.

Not to take your lord's name in vain BUT President ObamaNation must be a cretin because he's sending Mini-Me-Biden to the National Republican Convention to spark violence. It is because of these Chicago-style tactics that this ObamaNation continually plays that is causing so much fear among politicians on both sides of the razor blade. And knowing that Attorney General Holder will not prosecute any problems caused by the Occupiers or Black Panthers or Muslim Main Streamers (also known as workplace terrorists), those who follow the ObamaNation feel empowered this coming election to do harm without consequence.
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Postby Tribunal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:46 am

patriotsaint wrote:I agree with Nan. Every election cycle people on both sides of the aisle predict doom if their opponents are elected to office. I remember zealous neo-cons squealing that the world would end if BO were elected. Well surprise, surprise....we're still here 4 years later. Now these same people predict the world will implode if he is elected again. They're performing the same chicken little song and dance they do every election cycle.

Presidential politics is part of the "bread and circuses" the puppet masters use to keep the masses busy. It won't be the President that pulls the rug out from under the economy and destroys the dollar....and in my opinion that will be the catalyst to civil unrest if it occurs.

I would agree with you and Nan but at what point do we say the paranoia and reactionaries have done just what people feared they would? People cry wolf each election and each year the dogs are more rapid. I think we are becoming desensitized to the political corruption and the response people have to the corruption.
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Postby SmallFarm » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:34 am

imperfectionst wrote:Pure insanity. If anyone is going to spark violence, it's boneheaded paranoids like this cretin.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. :ymdevil:
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Postby imperfectionst » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:38 pm

I think someone is having "Red Dawn" fantasies. Biden out to spark violence? He's the vice president for gosh sakes! Have you no respect at least for the office?

What I see going on is people who live in a bubble of their own media, building up a feedback loop of ever increasing irrational hysteria. They have built up a giant strawman called liberalism or socialism or Obamanation that has nothing to do with reality. I really think it's some kind of phobia. They need Republican Rehab badly.
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Postby InfoWarrior82 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:32 pm

imperfectionst wrote:I think someone is having "Red Dawn" fantasies. Biden out to spark violence? He's the vice president for gosh sakes! Have you no respect at least for the office?

What I see going on is people who live in a bubble of their own media, building up a feedback loop of ever increasing irrational hysteria. They have built up a giant strawman called liberalism or socialism or Obamanation that has nothing to do with reality. I really think it's some kind of phobia. They need Republican Rehab badly.



Oh I see. So you've never read the official government documents that state they will use U.N. troops to quell insurrection within the United States? Hey, that's cool.

I'm not a genius or anything, but I think it's safe to say that once the welfare class stops recieving their EBT funds.. etc, etc... that they're going to be a little... I don't know, how should I say this? Upset?
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Postby imperfectionst » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:18 pm

Welfare is limited to 5 years total in your lifetime, so there is no "welfare class'. Nor is Obama eliminating welfare.

As far as plans, our government has and always has developed plans for every contingency. It's not a big deal. I mean if you are really afraid of the effectiveness of the UN, you haven't been paying attention.
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Postby Rensai » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:14 pm

imperfectionst wrote:Welfare is limited to 5 years total in your lifetime, so there is no "welfare class'. Nor is Obama eliminating welfare.

As far as plans, our government has and always has developed plans for every contingency. It's not a big deal. I mean if you are really afraid of the effectiveness of the UN, you haven't been paying attention.

That only applies to the federal TANF welfare program. Lots of other welfare programs out there without the 5 year limit. Also, how is it ok for a government to make contingency plans to make war on its own people? The excuse that the government "always has developed plans for every contingency" is not only untrue, but far from an acceptable justification for such plans. I can't think of any legitimate reason to even consider this as acceptable.
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Postby Andrew52 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:16 pm

Could it be that economics and civil un-rest go hand in hand?

People are frustrated with the state of the Union. Something needs to
change rather abruptly. Be prepared is my motto.
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Postby Tribunal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:20 pm

imperfectionst wrote:I think someone is having "Red Dawn" fantasies. Biden out to spark violence? He's the vice president for gosh sakes! Have you no respect at least for the office?

No Red Dawn fantasies, because no one in their right mind would fantasies about something like that happening. Vice President Biden is being dispatched to counter the National Republic Convention in Tampa. This is both disrespectful to the opposing party and is only meant to do one thing, cause conflict with the opposing party.

I have total respect for the office of the President and the Vice President. I spent eight years of my life protecting these people. But Obama and Biden are not your normal office holders. Biden is that last person I would want to be next in line to the presidency. More so than Dan Quayle. If something were to ever happen to Obama and Biden became president, we would be the laughing-stock of the world. There is a huge difference between the office and the office holder.

What I see going on is people who live in a bubble of their own media, building up a feedback loop of ever increasing irrational hysteria. They have built up a giant strawman called liberalism or socialism or Obamanation that has nothing to do with reality. I really think it's some kind of phobia. They need Republican Rehab badly.

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Postby Still Learning » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:17 am

It amazes me how blind people can be. Of course there are people that are paranoid or overthink these things. But it doesn't take a genius to see our freedoms slipping away and see the corruption at the top. Maybe I misinterpret some of the previous comments, but it seems like I am either some crazy conspiracy theorist or someone is so entrenched in a deep sleep that it makes me shake my head in disbelief. I would suppose that the truth lies somewhere in the middle...things aren't as bad a they seem to some (although they probably are headed that way IMO) but to have complete faith in our governing powers to me is far to the other extreme. If that is the case, I will just donate my food storage, guns, ammo, etc. and go on living, eating, drinking and being merry. why worry, tomorrow we will die anyway.
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Postby patriotsaint » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:53 am

Still Learning wrote:It amazes me how blind people can be. Of course there are people that are paranoid or overthink these things. But it doesn't take a genius to see our freedoms slipping away and see the corruption at the top. Maybe I misinterpret some of the previous comments, but it seems like I am either some crazy conspiracy theorist or someone is so entrenched in a deep sleep that it makes me shake my head in disbelief. I would suppose that the truth lies somewhere in the middle...things aren't as bad a they seem to some (although they probably are headed that way IMO) but to have complete faith in our governing powers to me is far to the other extreme. If that is the case, I will just donate my food storage, guns, ammo, etc. and go on living, eating, drinking and being merry. why worry, tomorrow we will die anyway.


I don't know if you were referring to my comment, but either way I feel like explaining that my post was specifically directed at the ridiculous idea quoted in the original post that the re-election of Obama would result in civil war. The threat the gadiantons pose is real, but how can we ever explain that threat to our countrymen and expect to be taken seriously if we are lumped in with tinfoil hat crackpots? I'm confident in my belief that the country will not erupt into civil war after election day.....regardless of who wins.
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Re: Possible civil unrest/UN troops in US

Postby samizdat » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:25 am

Will civil war happen if BHO is reelected? Probably not. The economy though is a completely different story, that could lead to civil unrest.

There is lots of stress out there. Look what happened at the Empire State Building today, nothing more than the reason that the man got fired, he took it out on ten other people besides his old boss :(
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Postby AussieAmerican » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:14 pm

In the Sept 2012 Ensign are two very interesting articles. "Restoring Religious Freedom" and "Book of Mormon Insights for Troubled Times". Is a very interesting read and those on this forum would especially find it so. In the Restoring Religious Freedom article p36 by Elder Cook (Apostle) he is discussing civility and makes this comment. "We live in a world where there is much turmoil. Many people are both angry and afraid." I remember when I first heard the term "revolution" (expressed for our day). It was almost a dirty word that one dare not mention. Today it is discussed freely on the alternate media as well as MSM. I currently attend university and should this discussion come up I am amazed at how ready these young people to clean things up and they are not talking about the ballot box.
I am watching closely the effects of this election. I have known of Pres George Albert's Smith's vision for many years along with Charles D. Evans (Church patriarch) but have now heard from very different sources Obama's "Whatever it Takes" plan to maintain his presidency. Not all used that phrase. I believe the turmoil is way close. As usual, I watch closely, keep preparing and listen to our First Presidency and the Apostles. Should they tells us to go, I'll be one of the first in line.
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Re: Possible civil unrest/UN troops in US

Postby imperfectionst » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:56 am

Rensai wrote:
imperfectionst wrote:Welfare is limited to 5 years total in your lifetime, so there is no "welfare class'. Nor is Obama eliminating welfare.

As far as plans, our government has and always has developed plans for every contingency. It's not a big deal. I mean if you are really afraid of the effectiveness of the UN, you haven't been paying attention.

That only applies to the federal TANF welfare program. Lots of other welfare programs out there without the 5 year limit. Also, how is it ok for a government to make contingency plans to make war on its own people? The excuse that the government "always has developed plans for every contingency" is not only untrue, but far from an acceptable justification for such plans. I can't think of any legitimate reason to even consider this as acceptable.

No let's just sleepwalk into the future unprepared. Oh wait, that was the Bush presidency...
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Re: Possible civil unrest/UN troops in US

Postby InfoWarrior82 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:34 pm

imperfectionst wrote:
Rensai wrote:
imperfectionst wrote:Welfare is limited to 5 years total in your lifetime, so there is no "welfare class'. Nor is Obama eliminating welfare.

As far as plans, our government has and always has developed plans for every contingency. It's not a big deal. I mean if you are really afraid of the effectiveness of the UN, you haven't been paying attention.

That only applies to the federal TANF welfare program. Lots of other welfare programs out there without the 5 year limit. Also, how is it ok for a government to make contingency plans to make war on its own people? The excuse that the government "always has developed plans for every contingency" is not only untrue, but far from an acceptable justification for such plans. I can't think of any legitimate reason to even consider this as acceptable.

No let's just sleepwalk into the future unprepared. Oh wait, that was the Bush presidency...



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