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Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Mahonri » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:55 pm

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/ ... puppet.htm

Conclusive evidence that Romney's policies are CFR policies and that he is supported by the CFR
And I mean that in the nicest possible way. Insert tact here.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby truthseeds » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:34 pm

The Council on Foreign Relations published a speech by Mitt Romney in their July/August '07 issue of Foreign Affairs, titled "Rising to a New Generation of Global Challenges."
http://www.cfr.org/publication/13632/ri ... enges.html

The CFR also has a web page devoted to Romney's campaign issues.
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13226/mitt_romney.html

So the CFR promotes Mitt Romney...along with dissolving the nation-state and national sovereignty.
Obviously, there is going to be no peace or prosperity for mankind as long as [the Earth] remains divided into 50 or 60 independent states until some kind of international system is created. The real problem today is that of world government.
~CFR journal, Foreign Affairs endorsement for world government (1924).

And there's so much more in Foreign Affairs.

Then there's the writings of the member elitists, like the following straight from the Haass's mouth: Sovereignty and Globalisation
Author: Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations-

The world’s 190-plus states now co-exist with a larger number of powerful non-sovereign and at least partly (and often largely) independent actors, ranging from corporations to non-government organisations (NGOs), from terrorist groups to drug cartels, from regional and global institutions to banks and private equity funds. The sovereign state is influenced by them (for better and for worse) as much as it is able to influence them. The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded. [con't]

As a result, new mechanisms are needed for regional and global governance that include actors other than states. This is not to argue that Microsoft, Amnesty International, or Goldman Sachs be given seats in the United Nations General Assembly, but it does mean including representatives of such organisations in regional and global deliberations when they have the capacity to affect whether and how regional and global challenges are met. [con't]

Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function.
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Some governments are prepared to give up elements of sovereignty to address the threat of global climate change
...
All of this suggests that sovereignty must be redefined if states are to cope with globalisation.

Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary.

Necessity may also lead to reducing or even eliminating sovereignty when a government, whether from a lack of capacity or conscious policy, is unable to provide for the basic needs of its citizens. This reflects not simply scruples, but a view that state failure and genocide can lead to destabilising refugee flows and create openings for terrorists to take root.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby skmo » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:44 am

Be nice to Mitt. After all, he's really just a bad joke.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby sbsion » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:29 am

Mahonri wrote:http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/055364-2009-08-11-romney-exposed-as-new-world-order-puppet.htm
Conclusive evidence that Romney's policies are CFR policies and that he is supported by the CFR


NOW..........we see eye to eye........about time someone exposed him :idea: , now what :?:
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:04 pm

Is this Ron Paul's Blog or one of his supporters?

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/101890
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Mahonri » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:46 pm

problem with that article you posted illum, it claims Mitt is a member of the CFR. Though Mitt is no friend of good govt or the Gospel, he is not a member of the CFR. To say stuff that is not true ruins your credibility.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Mahonri » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:53 pm

is there a good lds constitutionally based article on the net against Mitt?
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby lundbaek » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:09 pm

There is enough documented information on the 2 or 3 threads on this forum about Mitt Romney to put together a good lds constitutionally based article on the net against Mitt. But it is not only his disdain for the Constitution that ought to be brought to the atrtention of LDSs. But what good would such an article do? Most American LDS voters would refuse to believe it.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby caddis » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:10 pm

You're exactly right Lundbaek. I tried to enlighten my family about Mittens when he was running for the GOP nomination. Every time I tried to point out his disdain for the constitution and his denial of the first vision, they would look at me like I was from another planet. I finally gave up. I even had family members voice concern with my support of Ron Paul. I'm not kidding, they even tried to link RP to the Anti-Christ. Must be because they couldn't understand why a very active member of the church (me) couldn't support a "good" brother in the gospel unless he had been deceived in some way. :roll:
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Mahonri » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:29 pm

yes, I had been accused of apostasy for not supporting Mitt as well, but I was also able to open some eyes as well. Got to endure to the end.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby lundbaek » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:50 pm

I have been pretty hard on Mitt Romney, but in so doing I have managed to awaken a few (very few) to their ignorance of what is going on, to their own ignorance of the Constitution and of their obligation to "befriend" the US Constitution, and their having been deceived by most of the candidates and the media. I show LDSs how he flubbed a great opportunity to tell the nation about Joseph Smith having seen God and Christ and been spoken to by them. I also point out that as a LDS, he could have lead the charge toward restoring constitutional principles to our government, but instead he went right along with the other constitution shredders, demonstrating that getting elected and muggying up to the "big boys" was more important than principles.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby hedgehog » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:10 pm

You should look up how many of Romney's contenders in 2008 were also on the CFR. A few CFR members managed to join together to knock him out of the primaries. Also one example policy wise, Romney would have to 180 his immigration stance to be inline with the body and goals of CFR.

In regards to if i support Romney... To paraphrase Obama "a man spends his life either living up to his fathers expectations or fixing his mistakes". I like the idea of Romney trying to succeed where his father failed. I also like much of his natural skills and abilities. Again Like Obama i like how he treats his family adn this is more insight then you can usually get into a politicians character. Unfortunately that usually says nothing about his real ideology.

Romney's wild card in my book though is his barely constrained ambition. This no matter how good intentioned can so easily be turned against you. Unfortunately with Mitt like Bush and Obama they may have the opportunity and/or desire to set themselves up as a king and we wont be sure which choice they will make until the day they leave office.

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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:25 am

OK:

Here is Mitt Romney's connection to the Council on Foreign Relations. In order to have an article(s) written about you, it has to come from a member.

1. Bain & Company (Company that founded his Bain Capital group):
Gadiesh, Orit B. - chairman of the board of Bain & Company; previously served in the office of the Deputy Chief of Staff of the Israeli Army
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html

For more on Bain & Company http://wapedia.mobi/en/Bain_and_Company
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But I think the BIGGEST condemnation on Romney's head is his companies (Bain Capital) promotion of toxic derivatives and subprime mortgages that brought about this economic collapse. Since this has been a "structured" plan to transfer all of our assets into the hands of the global elite (derivatives take your cash and sub-prime mortgages take your home.) How can anyone say that Romney is not a part of the Globalist plan to ruin America?

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMB_enUS339US339&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Bain+Capital+and+Derivatives

Bain Capital and Subprime Mortgages: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... f&oq=&aqi=
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Illuminattie exposed is exposed

Postby Mahonri » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:27 am

No, you do not have to be a member of the CFR to be published by them. Look at their membership roster. He is not on their... at all.

Again, I am not defending him. I think he is a pervert lucifarian. What I am doing is defending the truth so that the cause of freedom and exposing evil is not discredited
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:40 pm

Ummm. I believe I said that a member had to write about him. Did you notice any of the other things I pointed out?

1. His company was a big player in staging the financial collapse through toxic derivatives, hedge funds and sub-prime mortgages? That would be Bain Capital. Just another Mormon who isn't one. If he were, he would be fighting the New World order, not helping to fill its purse on ill-gotten gains.

2. Did you notice that the Boss of Bain itself is a CFR member? Illuminati through and through. Wonder how her and Mitt got to be friends? She could have wrote the positive articles about Mitt. They wouldn't have been published if Romney wasn't vetted and approved by the Illuminati that run the CFR. Otherwise, they would have trashed him. Thus we see it is nigh impossible to be friends with God and the Secret Combinations that run this world.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:03 pm

Toxic Loans Topping 5% May Push 150 Banks to Point of No Return
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... TT9jivRIWE

Thanks Mitt Romney!
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby lundbaek » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:37 pm

Actually, I'm not convinced the movers and shakers of the CFR approved of Mitt Romney. They probably didn't disapprove of him to near the extent that they disapproved of Ron Paul, and I believe they were prepared to make a mockery of him if he appeared to get close to winning the primary. He did have a couple of CFR advisors, although I cannot remember who they were. It would be interesting to see what Romney would do if he did get elected. Would he stand up for the Constitution and its principles, or would he support and participate in violations of it? Would he tell about Joseph Smith having been spoken to by God and Christ, or would he continue to hide behind Moses and the bush?
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:19 pm

The Economy Is In Deep, Deep Trouble http://rense.com/general87/econn.htm
Question for Bernanke: "Do you have
the cojones to raise rates?"
By Mike Whitney
8-15-9

Booyah. It's morning in America. The jobless numbers are stabilizing, the stock market is sizzling, quarterly earnings came in better than expected, traders have turned bullish, housing is showing signs of life, and clunker-swaps have given Detroit a well-needed boost of adrenalin. Even Cassandra economists --like Paul Krugman and Nouriel Roubini--have been uncharacteristically optimistic. Is is true; did we avoid a Second Great Depression? Is the worst really behind us?

Maybe. But there is only one way to find out for sure. Raise rates.

Bernanke should welcome the opportunity to show everyone how he's pulled the world's biggest economy back from the brink of disaster. All he needs to do is stop giving away free money, shut down a few of his so-called lending facilities, and stop manipulating interest rates by purchasing mortgage-backed securities (MBS) from Fannie and Freddie. How hard is that? The S&P 500 has skyrocketed 48 percent since March 9. What's Bernanke waiting for; a 75 percent increase; a 100 percent increase??? How high do stocks have to go to convince Bernanke that the economy can stand on its own two feet without the torrent of cheap liquidity issuing from the Fed?
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:23 pm

Alabama Based Colonial Bank Fails, BB&T Takes Over Branches

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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:50 am

Why Are Internment Camps Being Built?

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2009/c ... 90811.html
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby lundbaek » Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:44 pm

How, pray tell, is Mitt Romney personally responsible in any way for the construction of internment camps and the failure of any banks?
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Cowell » Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:11 pm

skmo wrote:Be nice to Mitt. After all, he's really just a bad joke.

How is helping to further politically brainwash many members of the Church a bad joke?
Mahonri wrote:Though Mitt is no friend of good govt or the Gospel, he is not a member of the CFR.

Romney very likely is a member of the CFR, just like Obama is likely a member. Are we to believe that Obama's wife is a member but Obama doesn't really know if he is a member?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8duHcXX0
Listen to the sheep laugh when he talks about not having an "official" membership card. The sheep don't even know what he is talking about. Then listen to him dis Ron Paul, the internet, and conspiracy theories. Very interesting video. And very interesting that the people are so stupid. In the same statement he halfway admits to being a member, he denounces their obvious working agenda for global government.

It is the same with Romney. Traitors.

lundbaek wrote:How, pray tell, is Mitt Romney personally responsible in any way for the construction of internment camps and the failure of any banks?

I know you want specific examples when you can find them, lundbaek, but at the very least, Romney is an accessory or accomplice to these crimes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accomplice, and likely a conspirator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(crime)

At law, an accomplice has the same degree of guilt as the person he or she is assisting, is subject to prosecution for the same crime, and faces the same criminal penalties. (i.e., the guy in the getaway car will get life in prison along with the principal to the crime who shoots and kills the bank teller.)
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Mahonri » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:47 pm

Cowell wrote:Romney very likely is a member of the CFR,



What are you talking about "likely"? The roster is public, he is not a member
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:55 pm

Do you honestly think the CFR publishes a FULL membership roster? As truthseeds pointed out, he is guilty as an accomplice to the Global Agenda which includes eliminating 90% of the world population through war, famine, plagues and riot. Yes, Mitt has served his Masters quite well. Do you have any idea what Hedge funds and toxic Derivatives have done to your money; retirement, home; community and world? Romney is a slick crook. But, he is still a crook. In fact, parading as an honest Mormon makes him that much more dangerous.

Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing (Joseph Smith defined sheep's clothing as the Priesthood). So beware of Wolves in Priesthood clothing; like Mitt Romney.

If I put a sign that says "Honest Mormon" around the neck of an orangutan at the local zoo, would you believe it? What if if it was on the front page of the Deseret News? Or was visited by General Authorities? What if Joe Cannon wrote an editorial on how honest the orangutan was?

Would you let your kid play with it?

We are here to learn how not to be deceived. That is how we overcome Satan. Ye shall know them by their works! So, what works make Mitt Romney an honest and good man?

For more evidence, just look at how he covered up for the 2001 Winter Olympics Board Members.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Illuminati Exposed! » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:18 pm

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=7548251

Romney supported Gay Rights as governor. Is he now lobbying for it in the Mormon Church? This is the typical propaganda run by our Utah media which is supposedly against Homosexual Marriage. Pathetic. If you do whats right some people are not going to like you. It is called persecution. It is also a sign of those that truly are followers of Christ.

"Blessed art thou when all men hate you for My Names's Sake...verily I say unto you, great is your reward in heaven!" (Jesus)

Brigham Young said he feared the day when the Saints would become popular in the eyes of the world. I wonder why?
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Cowell » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:23 pm

Mahonri wrote:
Cowell wrote:Romney very likely is a member of the CFR,

What are you talking about "likely"? The roster is public, he is not a member

So you also believe Obama is not a member and his wife is?
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Mahonri » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:49 am

what do you mean "believe"? It is the record. They haven't paid their dues, they are not a member. Now does that mean they don't believe in the agenda? no. They CLEARLY do. But, if we are going to try and get people to understand what is really going on (in addition to helping them understand correct principles) we have to tell them the truth.

In this case the truth is, they are not dues paying members, but they do the bidding of them any way.
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby obamohno » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:49 am

caddis wrote:You're exactly right Lundbaek. I tried to enlighten my family about Mittens when he was running for the GOP nomination. Every time I tried to point out his disdain for the constitution and his denial of the first vision, they would look at me like I was from another planet. I finally gave up. I even had family members voice concern with my support of Ron Paul. I'm not kidding, they even tried to link RP to the Anti-Christ. Must be because they couldn't understand why a very active member of the church (me) couldn't support a "good" brother in the gospel unless he had been deceived in some way. :roll:


Can you reference where he denied the first vision? Thanks
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby mirkwood » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:12 am

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Ro ... QO_MQ.cspx

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A comment by presidential hopeful Mitt Romney is raising some eyebrows here in Utah.
Romney was asked about God and, in essence, whether God speaks to him or to LDS Church leaders.
This interview between Romney and a Boston TV station aired in early December.
His comments about the LDS Church didn't cause too much of a ripple back east.
But here in Utah, they seem to raise questions about his view of how the LDS Church was founded.
In a lengthy interview with one of Boston's most prominent journalists, Mitt Romney was asked the following:
"Should God speak to you and ask you to do something that might be in conflict with your duties as president or should he speak to your Prophet who would speak to you - how would you make that decision, how would you handle that?
To which Romney responded: "I don't recall God speaking to me. I don't know that he has spoken to anyone since Moses and the bush or perhaps some others." But this answer appears to contradict one of the foundations of the LDS church.
In the Church's First Vision, a young Joseph Smith is visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ.
Smith hears one of them say, "This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!"
And if, as Romney suggests, that God hasn't spoken to anyone for thousands of years, then what happens to the LDS Church's belief in direct revelation from God to the Church's prophets?
Revelations such as the one in 1978 that blacks could hold the priesthood.
Contacted by ABC 4 News, Romney's campaign issued the following statement:
"Governor Romney is very proud of his faith and he endeavors to live by it."
We also asked the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for a comment about Romney's statement.
But the Church politely declined our request."
End of news article. The Salt Lake Tribune published a similar story on this.
Consider what it would mean to LDS youth if they heard him say that "I don't know that he [God] has spoken to anyone since Moses and the bush or perhaps some others." If a Church General Authority ever made a public statement like that.....or even a missionary in a street meeting.....
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Re: Mitt Romney: CFR puppet

Postby Swmorgan77 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:56 am

Mahonri,

It is common for CFR politicians to disavow membership before embarking on political ambitions, especially on the Republican side of the aisle. (like Huntsman Jr.) The membership rolls are not fully public at any given point.

There is a very good prima fascia case for his being a member.
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