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freedomforall wrote: May 22nd, 2017, 3:57 am My comment:
Too bad that for those so against Trump, so intent on demeaning Trump and posting everything possible to cause others to join in and spew hate and the like...can't see that Trump is not a part of the socialist agenda in every sense of the word...they ignore the real enemy to our country and Constitution. One has to ask, why is not Trump and Obama in the same corner?
Look what Obama is doing, which is a strong indication that Trump is far removed from being so treasonous.

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The link below lists 68 times ol' Marmalade promised to repeal Obamacare, and yes, some of those promises included the words, "on day one." Do you think he meant on day one of his 2nd term?

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-promise ... 9500dad31e

Well, he lied, but then all politicians trying to get elected do that. "A chicken in every pot comes to mind."

Now Obamacare has gotten another boost.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... -again-now

Trump Saves Obamacare Again... For Now

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by Tyler Durden
May 22, 2017 12:36 PM

The Trump administration and the House have officially asked for another 90 days to work out a lawsuit over subsidies that help poorer people afford to use their Obamacare insurance plans, further delaying a long-running legal fight that’s already destabilizing the health law.

As Axio snotes, the key point is - "The parties continue to discuss measures that would obviate the need for judicial determination of this appeal, including potential legislative action."

Bloomberg continues...

Without the payments, insurers have threatened to drop out of Obamacare or substantially raise premiums, and customers could face thousands of dollars in unexpected costs. The Trump administration could still choose to drop the appeal, though other parties are attempting to take up defense of the payments.

State officials, the health industry and Democrats in Congress have pushed for the payments to continue, saying that ending them would upend the insurance market and cost millions of people their health insurance.

“We need swift action and long-term certainty on this critical program,” Cathryn Donaldson, a spokeswoman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, said in an email.

“It is the single most destabilizing factor in the individual market, and millions of Americans could soon feel the impact of fewer choices, higher costs, and reduced access to care.”
The group is one of the main lobbying associations for health insurers.

However, as Bloomberg reports, while the latest delay is a reprieve for Obamacare, it does little to resolve the underlying uncertainty created by the case and by Republican efforts in Congress to repeal and replace large parts of the law. Health insurers are in the midst of deciding whether to participate in the Affordable Care Act next year, and what to charge customers. Some have already said they’ll raise premiums in 2018 because of uncertainty around the subsidies.

Trump previously threatened to use the CSR payments as a bargaining chip to bring Democrats to the table on health care if Republicans can’t muster enough repeal votes in the Senate. He also tried to use them as leverage to gain funding for a border wall with Mexico, saying he’d give Democrats a dollar in CSR money for every dollar for the wall.

Of course, the Democrats had plenty to say...

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said the decision to continue the funding showed the administration knows that continuing the payments is the right thing to do. He criticized the uncertainty from Trump on their future.

"Unfortunately, by kicking the can down the road once again, the administration is continuing to sow uncertainty in the markets that will hurt millions of Americans," Schumer said in a statement. "Instead of hemming and hawing, they ought to step up to the plate and say once and for all that they will make these payments permanently, which help millions of Americans pay less for their health care."

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, of California, criticized the action to delay the lawsuit further rather than resolve it once and for all.

“Republicans cynically continue to sow uncertainty in the health coverage of millions of Americans,” Pelosi said in a statement. “At a critical period when insurers are deciding premiums for next year, Republicans are pouring uncertainty into the health insurance marketplaces.”

While the delay will move the next update for the case to mid-August, the deadline for insurers to submit their 2018 plans for Obamacare' exchanges in most states is June 21.

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More death and destruction brought to you by the Neocons who control Trump.

Why is the answer to all the world's problems war? Always war. Yet as soon as one war is over, it's time for another war. Trump's on board with the Gadiantons. The voice of the people was for evil...again.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... ing-script

Ron Paul Warns Iran Is In The Crosshairs: "Neocons Are Still Writing The Script"
by Tyler Durden May 22, 2017 1:53 PM

Iran has been in neocon crosshairs for a very long time. U.S. Presidential Administrations come and go, Democrat and Republican, but the neocon script has remained the same.
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President Trump, voted in as an "outsider," has adopted the insider script.

Today's speech in Saudi Arabia was crafted by Trump's neocon Senior Policy Advisor Stephen Miller.

Miller's "long-time mentor" is David Horowitz. Here are Horowitz's thoughts on Bush's invasion of Iraq:

“Baghdad is liberated,” he wrote for his FrontPage Magazine in April 2003. “In the days to come let us not forget that if it were not for one man, and one man alone—George Bush—the people of Iraq would not be celebrating in the streets and pulling down Saddam’s statues today.

… We have entered the era of a new civil war between the forces of freedom and the powers of Islamo-fascist and communist darkness, and once again the left is clearly determined to take its stand on the other side. The good news is that America is back. Our military has performed superlatively. Our leadership has stood tall. We ourselves can celebrate over this and look confidently toward what lies ahead.”
Long story short...Trump may be a different face, but the neocon goal has remained the same.

?Here's the relevant part of today's speech about Iran that neocon Stephen Miller wrote for Trump:

But no discussion of stamping out this threat would be complete without mentioning the government that gives terrorists all three—safe harbor, financial backing, and the social standing needed for recruitment. It is a regime that is responsible for so much instability in the region. I am speaking of course of Iran.

From Lebanon to Iraq to Yemen, Iran funds, arms, and trains terrorists, militias, and other extremist groups that spread destruction and chaos across the region. For decades, Iran has fueled the fires of sectarian conflict and terror.

It is a government that speaks openly of mass murder, vowing the destruction of Israel, death to America, and ruin for many leaders and nations in this room.

Among Iran's most tragic and destabilizing interventions have been in Syria. Bolstered by Iran, Assad has committed unspeakable crimes, and the United States has taken firm action in response to the use of banned chemical weapons by the Assad Regime -- launching 59 tomahawk missiles at the Syrian air base from where that murderous attack originated.

Responsible nations must work together to end the humanitarian crisis in Syria, eradicate ISIS, and restore stability to the region. The Iranian regime's longest-suffering victims are its own people. Iran has a rich history and culture, but the people of Iran have endured hardship and despair under their leaders' reckless pursuit of conflict and terror.

Until the Iranian regime is willing to be a partner for peace, all nations of conscience must work together to isolate Iran, deny it funding for terrorism, and pray for the day when the Iranian people have the just and righteous government they deserve.
Neocons are patient.

They always keep their eyes on the prize.

Democrats....Republicans...."Outsiders"....

Neocons write the script.

Meanwhile, our lives, our safety, and (of course) our wallets are always at their beck and call.

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I look upon those, with scorn, who are bent on continuously finding fault with Trump and ignoring the real enemy trying to bring down the country. They are following suit with the media and Democrats doing everything in their power to derail Trump, even to the point of spreading whatever can be found to demonize him in an attempt to get him impeached.
Itsa darn shame we have LDS members acting like judge and jury, thinking they are doing everyone a favor and aggrandizing themselves in the process.
freedomforall wrote:If Barack Obama did not do enough to destroy this country in the 8 years he was in office, it appears his future plans are to destroy the foundation on which this country has operated on for the last 241 years.
freedomforall wrote:If this is allowed to proceed then we will be living in chaos very much like third world countries are run. What good is it to have an established government if it is not going to be respected and allowed to follow our laws? If this does not scare you, then we are in worse trouble than you know.

We are losing our country and we are so compliant. We are becoming a "PERFECT TARGET" for our enemy!
If Trump is so bad then why is he not sleeping in the same bed as Obama?

Here are three main false claims against Trump:

The following comes from Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs, Congressional Representative for Arizona CD 5. Prior being elected to the U.S. House of Representatives last November,

The false claim that Trump conspired with Russia to engineer the 2016 election has reached the height of absurdity. The media and Democrats are trying to bamboozle the country by conflating several isolated incidents. They have no evidence but have created a story that combines the allegations about the Russians and the firing of FBI Director James Comey.


Claim 1: Trump conspired with Russia to interfere with the election

The first bogus allegation by the radical media and carried forward by many Democrats is that Trump somehow participated with Russia to influence the 2016 election. The advocates of this disinformation hit this off-tune piano key early and often. But Obama-era Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified under oath that there was no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

The FBI and two congressional committees continue to investigate the extent of Russian activities. Unlike those who keep throwing wet wood on a match and producing smoke where there is no fire, I am content to wait for the outcome of those investigations and not jump to unwarranted and unsubstantiated conclusions.


Claim 2: Trump disclosed confidential information to Russian diplomats

The media and Democrats, sensing that people are not buying their first false Russian claim, have turned to an unnamed source who cites an unseen memo to make their second false claim. They allege that Trump disclosed confidential information to high-level Russian officials. No independent evidence to date corroborates the assertions.

Unlike the Washington Post, CNN, New York Times, and other outlets using unnamed sources, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, who were actually in the meeting, publicly deny the reports.

The media have buried the lede. The real problem here is that either there was a criminal leak by someone in attendance at the meeting that jeopardizes national security and stature, or the media has once again grabbed a false story in its zeal to delegitimize the Trump presidency.


Claim 3: The firing of FBI Director James Comey and his memo

The Washington Post was the first to try and get the fire started, but was joined by radical members of the media. Here is a line from a CNN piece: "Comey wrote, quoting Trump in the document, which CNN has not viewed but which was described by the sources."

Democrats keep fanning the wet wood, producing only smoke. In their effort to delegitimize Trump and encourage a never-will-happen impeachment proceeding, they claim that the as-yet-unseen Comey memo is evidence of obstruction of justice.

Oddly enough, the unobservant media failed to acknowledge that an actual witness testified under oath before the Senate. In a recent hearing, Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe said, "There has been no effort to impede our investigation today." That's right – the FBI testified under oath that there has been no obstruction of the investigation.

If Comey believed that his conversation with Trump constituted obstruction, he was obligated to report the offense to his superior (See 18 U.S.C. Section 4).

Democrats looked the other way when 30,000 emails were deleted from Hillary Clinton's server. They do not care that the alleged Russian interference with our election occurred under Obama's administration. The media's double standard for the Trump administration is unseemly. Simply put, the media and the Left have become unhinged over unsourced accusations.

The American people can clearly see there is an unprecedented, orchestrated effort to undermine Trump, in an attempt to subvert the will of the American people. I have never seen this level of fervor in American politics where anonymous sources dictate talks of impeachment, special counsels, investigations and obstruction of justice.

In spite of this incredible divisiveness, Trump has been productive. In the first four months of his administration, he has saved taxpayers billions of dollars by repealing government regulations, aided a rapid rise in economic growth, enforced our nation's immigration laws to help lower illegal border crossings and given us Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. He has an ambitious agenda, and I believe that he will receive more successful outcomes in the future as he works to keep his promises.

Republicans in Congress can keep our promises to the American public by maintaining focus on our agenda to repeal Obamacare, reform tax structure for every American, build the border wall and facilitate creation of jobs and economic growth by reducing additional regulations. I look forward to working with my colleagues and the White House to these ends.
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freedomforall wrote: May 22nd, 2017, 10:19 pm I look upon those, with scorn, who are bent on continuously finding fault with Trump and ignoring the real enemy trying to bring down the country. They are following suit with the media and Democrats doing everything in their power to derail Trump, even to the point of spreading false information in an attempt to get Trump impeached.
Itsa darn shame we have LDS members acting like judge and jury in incessantly spreading gossip, thinking they are doing everyone a favor and aggrandizing themselves in the process.
freedomforall wrote:If Barack Obama did not do enough to destroy this country in the 8 years he was in office, it appears his future plans are to destroy the foundation on which this country has operated on for the last 241 years.
freedomforall wrote:If this is allowed to proceed then we will be living in chaos very much like third world countries are run. What good is it to have an established government if it is not going to be respected and allowed to follow our laws? If this does not scare you, then we are in worse trouble than you know.

We are losing our country and we are so compliant. We are becoming a "PERFECT TARGET" for our enemy!
If Trump is so bad then why is he not sleeping in the same bed as Obama?

Here are three main false claims against Trump:

The following comes from Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs, Congressional Representative for Arizona CD 5. Prior being elected to the U.S. House of Representatives last November,

The false claim that Trump conspired with Russia to engineer the 2016 election has reached the height of absurdity. The media and Democrats are trying to bamboozle the country by conflating several isolated incidents. They have no evidence but have created a story that combines the allegations about the Russians and the firing of FBI Director James Comey.


Claim 1: Trump conspired with Russia to interfere with the election

The first bogus allegation by the radical media and carried forward by many Democrats is that Trump somehow participated with Russia to influence the 2016 election. The advocates of this disinformation hit this off-tune piano key early and often. But Obama-era Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified under oath that there was no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

The FBI and two congressional committees continue to investigate the extent of Russian activities. Unlike those who keep throwing wet wood on a match and producing smoke where there is no fire, I am content to wait for the outcome of those investigations and not jump to unwarranted and unsubstantiated conclusions.


Claim 2: Trump disclosed confidential information to Russian diplomats

The media and Democrats, sensing that people are not buying their first false Russian claim, have turned to an unnamed source who cites an unseen memo to make their second false claim. They allege that Trump disclosed confidential information to high-level Russian officials. No independent evidence to date corroborates the assertions.

Unlike the Washington Post, CNN, New York Times, and other outlets using unnamed sources, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, who were actually in the meeting, publicly deny the reports.

The media have buried the lede. The real problem here is that either there was a criminal leak by someone in attendance at the meeting that jeopardizes national security and stature, or the media has once again grabbed a false story in its zeal to delegitimize the Trump presidency.


Claim 3: The firing of FBI Director James Comey and his memo

The Washington Post was the first to try and get the fire started, but was joined by radical members of the media. Here is a line from a CNN piece: "Comey wrote, quoting Trump in the document, which CNN has not viewed but which was described by the sources."

Democrats keep fanning the wet wood, producing only smoke. In their effort to delegitimize Trump and encourage a never-will-happen impeachment proceeding, they claim that the as-yet-unseen Comey memo is evidence of obstruction of justice.

Oddly enough, the unobservant media failed to acknowledge that an actual witness testified under oath before the Senate. In a recent hearing, Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe said, "There has been no effort to impede our investigation today." That's right – the FBI testified under oath that there has been no obstruction of the investigation.

If Comey believed that his conversation with Trump constituted obstruction, he was obligated to report the offense to his superior (See 18 U.S.C. Section 4).

Democrats looked the other way when 30,000 emails were deleted from Hillary Clinton's server. They do not care that the alleged Russian interference with our election occurred under Obama's administration. The media's double standard for the Trump administration is unseemly. Simply put, the media and the Left have become unhinged over unsourced accusations.

The American people can clearly see there is an unprecedented, orchestrated effort to undermine Trump, in an attempt to subvert the will of the American people. I have never seen this level of fervor in American politics where anonymous sources dictate talks of impeachment, special counsels, investigations and obstruction of justice.

In spite of this incredible divisiveness, Trump has been productive. In the first four months of his administration, he has saved taxpayers billions of dollars by repealing government regulations, aided a rapid rise in economic growth, enforced our nation's immigration laws to help lower illegal border crossings and given us Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. He has an ambitious agenda, and I believe that he will receive more successful outcomes in the future as he works to keep his promises.

Republicans in Congress can keep our promises to the American public by maintaining focus on our agenda to repeal Obamacare, reform tax structure for every American, build the border wall and facilitate creation of jobs and economic growth by reducing additional regulations. I look forward to working with my colleagues and the White House to these ends.
Of course, FFA, as before you are ignoring the weightier matters of the word. God says "thou shalt not murder." Why is it so hard for you and others to simply admit that Trump is guilty of killing people in Syria with missiles? There is not a single word in the scriptures that can justify the US military taking the lives of those people. In fact, we are acting exactly opposite of how God wants us to wage war. This empire-building is our doom.

And as if the foregoing is not bad enough, now we're giving a brutal bunch of inbred sheikhs more weapons to kill innocent people in Yemen. How can you justify that? I wonder how America will be judged for all its war-making and fetus-killing.

You made the mistake of including Hillary's emails in your post. Have you ever heard of the NSA? They have records of every email and web-browsing experience of Hillary and you and me. Trump probably knows a guy or two in the NSA. He could get all her emails and have Sessions prosecute her any time. He could have done that on January 20th. He could do it right now.Yet he does not. Dude, you've been politically jacked. Man up and admit it.

You Trump supporters really have no idea what you're talking about and you have blinders on just in case you see anything you learned was wrong way back in your Primary classes.

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Obama Foundation and OFA are domestic terrorist organizations affiliated with muz bros

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Friends, have mercy on FreedomForAll and others like him. They cannot, at this stage of their political development, bring themselves to admit that they have been, and are presently, supporting a murderer. Eventually, they will come around and we will welcome them with open arms. Until then, let's continue to publish the truth.

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Oh the ignore list sure is nice, less contentious and other matters of concern can be posted without having to defend or justify it or my intentions.

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freedomforall wrote: May 23rd, 2017, 1:08 am Oh the ignore list sure is nice, less contentious and other matters of concern can be posted without having to defend or justify it or my intentions.
Yet somehow you can justify remaining silent about Trump's murders.

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The Marmalade In Chief is going to turn red, blood red, and lose his orangeness. Is this why you voted for him? Did you want more death and destruction in Afghanistan? Do you like to crush the hopes and dreams of families with soldiers? All for money, for profit?

I don't agree with the thesis or the recommendations in this article. However, the author rightly points out that we should get out.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... fghanistan

Time For The US To Take A Step Back From Afghanistan
Submitted by James Durso, originaly posted op-ed via The Hill,

This month we learned the U.S. Marines are back in Helmand, Afghanistan’s most violent province and the center of opium poppy production, and their mission may expand. President Trump will soon decide if he should send 8,400 more troops there for the latest chapter in America’s longest war. Should he?

I think not. We gave Afghanistan out best effort: over 2,200 dead soldiers, over 20,000 wounded, and over $700 billion for everything from ammunition to medical care for veterans. We need to face the fact that it’s an endemically violent place and may never change and another “whole of government” effort may not make any difference.

And don’t take my word for it: the Talban has rejected peace talks with the Afghan government as surrendering to the enemy and against Islam.

The Afghans have seen off every visitor and invader, from Alexander the Great to the U.S. Central Command, so why spend another dollar there? For example, the regional transport network has avoided Afghanistan and the enthusiasts for a New Silk Road or One Belt, One Road haven’t absorbed that the world is avoiding Afghanistan not out of stupidity but out of hard-won experience.

Yes, there is wealth to be had: Russian, British, and American geologists have found that Afghanistan has enormous untapped mineral resources, valued at $1 to $3 trillion. The minerals are in the ground, sure, but there’s no way to get them out so they’re effectively worth nothing. And there’s no way to get them out because the country is violent and corrupt which scares away prudent investors.

In 2008, the Chinese won the rights to the Aynak copper mine for $3 billion and an alleged $30 million bribe to the minister of mines. In 2017, no copper has yet been mined and the Chinese executive heading the project has been expelled from the Communist party for corruption. The only good news, if you can call it that, has been the recent Taliban green light for the restart of the project.

Wise Western investors should temporarily cede the field to the Chinese, Pakistanis, and Iranians — our enemies and frenemies — and let them try to make something of it. Afghanistan will still want friends in the West and we should exercise some of that recently derided “strategic patience” until the time is right and the Chinese have worn out their welcome when the Afghans realize they won’t create any jobs. Dealing with Afghanistan should be like buying a used car — let someone else take the loss and get it later at a savings. In this case, the savings of American lives and the bandwidth our leaders can devote to tractable issues.

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freedomforall wrote: May 23rd, 2017, 2:06 am
As you consider the video, recall the chief judge in the book of Helaman who was killed by his brother. Sometimes the wicked kill the wicked.

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Another Constitution-loving man points out the facts about Trump for the eager readers at LDSFF.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... -succeeded

The Republic Has Fallen: The Deep State's Plot To Take Over America Has Succeeded

May 23, 2017 11:00 PM
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,

No doubt about it.

The coup d’etat has been successful.

The Deep State - a.k.a. the police state, a.k.a. the military industrial complex - has taken over.

The American system of representative government has been overthrown by a profit-driven, militaristic corporate state bent on total control and global domination through the imposition of martial law here at home and by fomenting wars abroad.

When in doubt, follow the money trail.

It always points the way.

Every successive president starting with Franklin D. Roosevelt has been bought—lock, stock and barrel—and made to dance to the tune of the Deep State.

Enter Donald Trump, the candidate who swore to drain the swamp in Washington DC.

Instead of putting an end to the corruption, however, Trump has paved the way for lobbyists, corporations, the military industrial complex, and the Deep State to feast on the carcass of the dying American republic.

Just recently, for instance, Trump agreed to sell Saudi Arabia more than $110 billion in military weapons.


Meanwhile, Trump—purportedly in an effort to balance the budget in 10 years—wants to slash government funding for programs for the poor, ranging from health care and food stamps to student loans and disability payments.

The military doesn’t have to worry about tightening its belt, however. No, the military’s budget—with its trillion dollar wars, its $125 billion in administrative waste, and its contractor-driven price gouging that hits the American taxpayer where it hurts the most—will continue to grow, thanks to Trump.

This is how you keep the Deep State in power.

The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer, the military will get more militaristic, America’s endless wars will get more endless, and the prospect of peace will grow ever dimmer.

As for the terrorists, they will keep on being played for pawns as long as Saudi Arabia remains their breeding ground and America remains the source of their weapons, training and know-how.

Follow the money. It always points the way.

As Bertram Gross noted in Friendly Fascism: The New Face of Power in America, “evil now wears a friendlier face than ever before in American history.”

Writing in 1980, Gross predicted a future in which he saw:

…a new despotism creeping slowly across America. Faceless oligarchs sit at command posts of a corporate-government complex that has been slowly evolving over many decades. In efforts to enlarge their own powers and privileges, they are willing to have others suffer the intended or unintended consequences of their institutional or personal greed. For Americans, these consequences include chronic inflation, recurring recession, open and hidden unemployment, the poisoning of air, water, soil and bodies, and, more important, the subversion of our constitution. More broadly, consequences include widespread intervention in international politics through economic manipulation, covert action, or military invasion...
We’ve been losing our freedoms so incrementally for so long—sold to us in the name of national security and global peace, maintained by way of martial law disguised as law and order, and enforced by a standing army of militarized police and a political elite determined to maintain their powers at all costs—that it’s hard to pinpoint exactly when it all started going downhill, but we’re certainly on that downward trajectory now, and things are moving fast.

The “government of the people, by the people, for the people” has perished.

It will not be revived or restored without a true revolution of values and a people’s rebellion the likes of which we may not see for a very long time.

America is a profitable business interest for a very select few, and war—wars waged abroad against shadowy enemies and wars waged at home against the American people—has become the Deep State’s primary means of income.

After all, war is big business.

In order to maintain a profit margin, one would either have to find new enemies abroad or focus on fighting a war at home, against the American people, and that’s exactly what we’re dealing with today.


Wars waged abroad to the tune of trillions of dollars since 9/11.
Military equipment sold to foreign enemies.
Local police transformed into a standing army in the American homeland through millions of dollars’ worth of grants to local police agencies for military weapons, vehicles, training and assistance.
The public acclimated to the sights and sounds of martial law through urban training exercises and domestic military training drills timed and formulated to coincide with or portend actual crises.
The citizenry taught to fear and distrust each other and to welcome the trappings of the police state.
Had the government tried to ram such a state of affairs down our throats suddenly, it might have had a rebellion on its hands. Instead, the American people have been given the boiling frog treatment, immersed in water that slowly is heated up—degree by degree—so that they’ve fail to notice that they’re being trapped and cooked and killed.

“We the people” are in hot water now.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, the Constitution doesn’t stand a chance against a federalized, globalized standing army protected by legislative, judicial and executive branches that are all on the same side, no matter what political views they subscribe to: suffice it to say, they are not on our side or the side of freedom.

From Clinton to Bush, then Obama and now Trump, it’s as if we’ve been caught in a time loop, forced to re-live the same thing over and over again: the same assaults on our freedoms, the same disregard for the rule of law, the same subservience to the Deep State, and the same corrupt, self-serving government that exists only to amass power, enrich its shareholders and ensure its continued domination.

The republic has fallen to fascism with a smile.

Elections will not save us.


Learn the treacherous lessons of 2008 and 2016: presidential elections have made a mockery of our constitutional system of government, suggesting that our votes can make a difference when, in fact, they merely serve to maintain the status quo.

Don’t delay.

Start now—in your own communities, in your schools, at your city council meetings, in newspaper editorials, at protests—by pushing back against laws that are unjust, police departments that overreach, politicians that don’t listen to their constituents, and a system of government that grows more tyrannical by the day.

If you wait until 2020 to rescue our republic from the clutches of the Deep State, it will be too late.

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Somebody, anybody, please stop the traitorous actions of a Commander In Chief gone wild. America cannot sell weapons to repressive tyrants.

http://news.antiwar.com/2017/05/23/sen- ... arms-deal/

Sen. Rand Paul to Force Vote on Massive Saudi Arms Deal
Warns Sales Would Drag US Into Saudi Arabia's Yemen War
by Jason Ditz, May 23, 2017

Sen. Rand Paul (R – KY) intends to force a vote in the Senate on the record US arms sales to Saudi Arabia, a deal which the Trump Administration has estimated will be worth some $350 billion over the decade. Paul is expected to introduce the bill on Wednesday.

The Arms Export Control Act gives senators 10 days to bring up opposition to arms sales, and Paul will have to act particularly fast this time because the Senate is leaving Friday for the Memorial Day holiday, during which they take an entire week off.

Sen. Paul argued that increasing US armament of the Saudis would mean deeper US involvement in the Saudi invasion of Yemen. That of course is something many in the Trump Administration want at any rate, so for them that is seen as a bonus, if anything.

Sen. Paul has been supported in the past in trying to rein in Saudi arms sales by some Democrats, particularly Sen. Chris Murphy (D – CT). It is unclear at this point if he has much support, though the arms industry’s eagerness to secure this lucrative deal is likely to have them lobbying [heavily].

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Re: Trump = Traitor, Part 2

Post by Z2100 »

From what I read, this is what I've came to:

1. Hillary Clinton needs to be locked up but that's never going to happen

2. Donald Trump is not doing what he said he would do in his
campgain speeches

3. The secret combinations/gadiantons are dealing with Trump somehow

4. WW3 will start in the Middle East and they will attack us with all of the weapons WE gave them

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Re: Trump = Traitor, Part 2

Post by Silver »

Z2100 wrote: May 25th, 2017, 7:18 am From what I read, this is what I've came to:

1. Hillary Clinton needs to be locked up but that's never going to happen

2. Donald Trump is not doing what he said he would do in his
campgain speeches

3. The secret combinations/gadiantons are dealing with Trump somehow

4. WW3 will start in the Middle East and they will attack us with all of the weapons WE gave them
Agree with 1-3, but WW3 might start elsewhere. Western powers have certainly messed up things so badly in the ME that I wouldn't be surprised by whatever happens there or in the West. Blowback is a thing. It's real.

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Re: Trump = Traitor, Part 2

Post by Silver »

Trump supporters here have the gall to say that I "hate" Trump. Yet on the other side of their mouths they are cheering Trump as we send another aircraft carrier towards the Korean Peninsula, as we send more troops to the Middle East, as we sell more weapons to one of the most heinous kingdoms on earth so those bloodthirsty, inbred fanatics can kill more innocent people in Yemen.

Yep, I can just feel the love oozing out of the mouths and pores of all the Trump supporters.

President Kimball is right. We are a warlike people. We like war. We love war. We love killing people. We are murderers. We deserve the coming punishments.

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