Law of Attraction, part of the Conspiracy(The Secret)

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

Law of Attraction, part of the Occult branch of the NWO conspiracy.

I have been asked to explain the difference between the two Plans Lucifer’s and God’s in regards to the law of attraction I hope this has answered some of your questions.

I am only looking for truth, I do not say I have it all or know it all so please feel free to open discussions regarding this. We can help each other find the truth better this way.

The Secret, The Moses Code, The Law of Attraction by Ester and Jerry Hicks….these are completely based on Occult teachings. They are not universal truths we can tap into. The is a very false idea floating around that there exists Divine Laws that we as humans can just tap into to get what we want. This is not the case. The power either comes from God or it comes from Lucifer. We do not have powers on our own that we can tap into that are neutral.

I will first give you an example of powers that are given by Lucifer to heal:

Many people feel they can heal others by energy healing by tapping into powers that naturally exist. This naturally existing power is the power that naturally exists by Lucifer. We are told clearly that we are to give Priesthood blessings and it is by the power and authority of the Priesthood via Father and is based on the Faith of the individual and the Will of the Lord. Immoral Pagans, witches and occultists tap into forces of nature are tapping in to Lucifer’s powers. Does this power of Lucifer work? Yes it does, but is not from God. When you do a deep study into how to gain these “powers” to heal, they teach step by step at first make you think it is you taping into the “source” a neutral energy only to later find out what the “source” is …..they come out and say all the power that you have comes for “angels” they put their hands on the healers hands and send the power. They also whisper impressions of what is wrong with the unhealthy person. As the healer gets more sensitive to the promptings of these spirits they begin to hear them and sometimes see them. They are not angels from heaven these are fallen angels or demons. For there is NO moral rules or will of God to have these powers. They just need to meditate and receive them. God only grants powers to those that are worthy of the Spirit and the gifts there of. It is through His power and will with the Faith of the individual to be healed. If we could tap into neutral powers then this would not be clearly taught in the scriptures or doctrines.

The Secret Combination religious wing of the conspiracy is the Occult or also know by New Thought, New Spirituality, New Age Movement, Ancient Wisdom etc….

To understand the difference between the New Age Occult and God real truths or say the (test) to see which side they are on is this. My will not Thine or Thy will not mine. The new age occult quote scriptures and talk about God all the time. But they do not talk about submitting your will to God. They only talk about YOUR WILL and how to make YOUR WILL happen. They talk about sacrifice for the world but not sacrificing for the belief in a God.

They teach 99.9% truth. The only way to tell the difference is Thy will or My will. We are taught when being given Priesthood blessings that it is based on the Will of the Father, not our will. The role we play in it is Faith. If we do not have the Faith then that will tie the Lords hands. It is two fold. 1) It must be the will of the Lord. 2) We must have Faith in God to receive.

It all goes back to being Humble and teachable and willing to submit to all things. We must be willing to lose our life to gain it. The occult teaches we are the ones that empower ourselves with the "God" force to gain all these things. This is pride. This is the pride that was the fall of Lucifer. He will not turn to Father for anything….nor do Fathers will.

Lisa Nichols a motivational speaker from The Secret. She may have started out believing in "God" but she now has a new definition of God. She uses all the occult terms. She even talks about putting things out into the universe and having them come back. She is now a follower of Occult teachings. Did she plan to join Lucifer's side no, she was seduced. She is now a false teacher an anti-Christ. For she does not call for the repentance of sinners only the acceptance of god hood and the powers within. If we do not preach of Christ as our redeemer but preach we redeem ourselves we are anti-Christ's. She is a very good example of the elect being fooled. Though we don't know where her faith was originally, we just know she says she believes in God. But the definition in God is the whole issue. Oprah believes in God too. They do not worship the same God we do. They worship His opposite. Maybe when you hear them say the word “God” just replace it with the name Lucifer and see if it fits.....because that is exactly who they are talking about. He is the god of the planet, the god of forces.

If they do not teach of repentance and sin, they are on the bad side.
If they do to testify of Christ as the redeemer of sin, they are on the bad side.
If they teach self-empowerment they are on the bad side.
I hate to sound so simplistic but it really comes down to these kinds of basic doctrinal truths. For the new age teaches peace, love, sacrifice….wonderful good things. This is how Lucifer is appearing as an Angel of Light. He is teaching truths but leaves out Father, sin and repentance. He claims to be the Christ bringing the world peace.


Bryron Katie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBFk2TuLFXA
She uses all occult terms and ideas.

Leslie Householder another teacher of occult ideas says this:

I felt no other choice than to escape "reality".
"I was a wreck. I finally just went to bed and decided that I didn't care if I ever got up. The kids would just have to find their own food and look after themselves, because I couldn't go on any longer. If I couldn't find the freedom from stress that I needed, I'd just close my eyes and pretend I already had it. That's the only place I could feel relief, and if that's where I'd have to do it, so be it. I remember thinking, "Oh, you are so pathetic, Leslie!"
If you accidentally stumble onto ONE of the rules, like I did,
without knowing what you've done, the success or perceived prosperity is temporary.
Little did I know that what I did that day was actually the beginning of my deliverance... it actually started us on a new self help path to prosperity. I had applied ONE of the laws without even knowing it."

Where are the lessons on God. She only teaches self. She stubble on as she say to one of the laws without knowing it……(self help path of deliverance?) That is what she is saying. She is not teaching of God and repentance and submisson to His will, she teaches how to get your will not Fathers will.

"God and the Universe operate in a lawful manner.
It is good news to know that the Universe operates in an orderly way, because that means that once you learn the laws, you can know that as you follow them, the good fortune MUST come, by law. Just knowing this gives you the mental stamina to endure the "test period" of your faith."

This is not what is meant by the Law of Restoration or the Law of Harvest.

Where are we taught this in the scriptures? Where does the Lord promise blessings in this life? He promises eternal ones, treasures in heaven not treasures on earth. The Occult teaches these ideas. Ironically they teach this at first then teach you to not want of material things but to want to attract world peace instead. These principles are to catch people that want wealth. They once they have caught them then teach them the higher laws and to use them for the good of all not just themselves. So it is a great way to get selfish people to turn into helpers of Lucifer by showing them it is best for them too. The then teach that if you live the higher laws of using the power of attraction sending goodwill out to the world, you are evoking Lucifer to come forth with his Plan.

I checked to see if Leslie Householder's books were sold at Deseret Books and they are not. Just as Carol Tuttle's are not either.

Where heart is, is what you worship. Whatever you focus on the most is your God. I have nothing against a general lesson on how to be productive in life. That is valuable and needed. There are many today that are Wolf’s in sheep’s clothing teaching these ideas. Witches use the Law of Attraction it is part of there teachings and they know that the power comes for Satan and his demons.

These books on the law of attraction become a huge stepping stone or bridge to the occult. The law of attraction is a Core occulte doctrine. Why do you need God if you can will thing on your own? We are clearly told all blessings come from God all that we have comes from Him. Lucifer promised Moses and Christ all the powers of the world. He can offer this to anyone that will follow him. As soon as you start to think you do not need Father you are now in Lucifer’s camp. For that is what he believes and teaches. He teaches the divine within and that you are “god”. He wants to be God and believes he is God he then teaches us the same, so we rebel and become as miserable as his is.

Not all promoters of the new age know what they are doing. Many think is its goodness that they promote. The inner circles know it is Lucifer's plan, but others do not. But this does not make them any less dangerous, just naive. The teachings are very dangerous and deadly. It is like a little child with a gun, they may not know and really understand the consequence of pulling the trigger but the outcome is the same. If they were taught right they would have the correct respect for the power which they yield, but if not they are left to their own devises.

Again Thy will not mine or My will not Thine.

If you look at the examples through out the scriptures yes some were blessed with riches and it did not make them evil, but the love of riches does. Many great spirits were not given riches for that was not the will of the Lord. If it was a true law that God gives you riches if you put forth the faith…then we would have been shown that in Christ. Christ showed us the very opposite. His example was to put Father first in all things, then your fellow man. This is the opposite that the new age teaches. They teach yourself first then the fellow man and leave out Father completely. Sometimes they will teach fellow man first then you, but still leave out Father and His will.

I have people close to me that falling for these ideas have read The Secret and watched the movie and even bought it for others saying this is truth. As LDS we fall easily victim to these lies for we know we “Can be come as Father and be Gods….but that is only by submitting our will to Him. Not by learning how to use “powers”.

People I know are starting to even say….."Why go to the temple? What good does that do anyway, freemasons have temples too….so what is the big deal with going to the temple?

Truth is out there in the world and not just in the church.

They believe in the law of attraction and use it instead of faith in God and waiting for His will. They want what they want now and are no longer willing to wait for God to grant them certain things.

They say the church is true but there are more truths out there that they are finding that clarify the doctrines of the church (redefining them).

Each of Members are getting very proud and an can not be taught. They think truth is inside them. They are starting to believe that they do not need to follow a living prophet or Apostles for they can know just as much or even more through these "new laws"

Who needs God when you have the powers of God??

I have talked to many LDS that are seeing the falling away of loved ones into these ideas, for they do not lead to Father but away.

What I have found in my research is many of the older teachers of the laws of positive thinking and such were occultists and associated with others occultists that were more blatant in their writings. Some logical points about having a good attitude is fine, the scriptures should be our source of uplifting information. Principles of using good judgments on money matters are fine, but using powers or laws of the universe to make you rich is another story completely. Again I emphasizes Thy will not mine or My will not Thine. Humility and Pride. God's power or Lucifer's Power.

The new age occultist leaders preach that Aids is a disease that is caused by the guilt and the condemnation of others. The idea that homosexuality is a sin is incorrect and is causing this disease. Once the person and the world accept that this is not a sin for there is no sin, the world would be freed of Aids. So it is the (Christians fault Aids exists!) If we show love and send love out into the universe the universe must send love back. Christians do not send love for they believe in a God that judges. Therefore are the cause of the misery of man. Once you free yourself from the idea of sin, love reigns and the world is at peace. You Will only good things for yourself and others via the law of attraction. We attract Aids to our lives because of this wrong teaching of sin. What we put out in to the universe comes back, we put out judgments then judgments come back, we put out love then love comes back. Those that put out these negative "religious ideas' of judgments of God cause the world to not have love. This is how dangerous this principle of the law of attraction really is! It will be the reason why Christians will be killed. So anyone one that teaches it is fueling the flames and will be part of the cause of the persecution of the saints and their deaths.

The Law of Attraction is Lucifer's false doctrine that mirrors Faith...but faith is not the Law of Attraction it is the submitting to the will of the Father and believing in Him. It is not believing in the Law of Attraction taught by Lucifer. Does that work, yes Lucifer will bless those that he chooses, did he not offer the same thing to Christ and Moses? He offered them the world, the riches the power..... you could say he offered them the Law of Attraction. What was their answer. No. That should be ours too.

The law of attraction is the law that becomes the excuse to kill Christian, Jews and some Muslims. They have already written this. If you do not accept that you are "god" and there is not sin you are evil. Evil must be taken off the planet for the planet to go through the next transformation to its higher level. Where the world is full of love and peace under Lucifer. No separatists can be on the planet when it evolves into its next level...(they define separatists as those that believe in a God separate then themselves.) So that is us! We must be removed like a cancer is from the body of Christ. Barbara Marx Hubbard teaches this she is very very close with Marianne Williamson, Neal Donald Walsh and Deepak Chopra and others. They all say she is wonderful and a visionary and the leading futurist. (Some great future for us is all I can say.)

I for one will stand by what the prophet says and follow him in all things. I will not follow the doctrines of devils that are being taught today.

It always amazes me that saftey,salvation and protection is in the basic simple doctrines we have been taught. I am in awe of the beauty of the simplicity of the Gospel. Each day I realize more and more how it is everything we need. As I research the things the clearer it is to me that all the truth we need comes from the many layers in the scriptures, words of the Prophets and going to the temple. We need nothing else. They extra thing in the world are very dangerous and are designed to guide us off track.

It becomes a complicated mess when you read doctrines of the adversary for he twists things in a way that intermingleds lie with truth. This is Lucifers stragey. We need make sure we focus on the basic core doctrines that the prophets and scriptures have taught and we will be safe.

If members would just follow the Prophet and the doctrines of the Church and not try to add things they would have the pure truth. But they want more, they want to add upon their knowledge from out in the world. Well if you search out in the world that is where you find Lucifer's 99.9% truth…..when you add that now you have change the pure doctrines into Lucifer’s.

The path is simple hold on to the iron rod, do not wander of into the mist of darkness. The iron rod will step by step get you to the tree of life. There are no short cuts or quick paths or powers you can tap into on your own.

We get confused with the fact we can become a God and confuse it with we are a God. They only way to Godhood is through the atonement, mercy and submitting our Will to the Lord to be taught all things and to submit to all things and endure to the end. Then after all we can do, through mercy we are saved. But our Godhood is dependent on being humble and teachable not Proud. Pride was Lucifer’s Fall and will be the fall of many. Many good wonderful people that are not unwilling fully purge themselves of selfishness and pride, submitting to all things the Lord deems for us (all things). THY WILL NOT MINE. This must be what we think about at all times, pray for His will. Be His students His children and not a student of the world and the children of the devil.

Lucifer has played this same tune to the members of the church throughout all time, the scriptures the examples are very clear in the book of Mormon.

I fear so much for many many members being lead astray even those that know about the secret combinations!

In talking with the General Authorities regarding these occult doctrines they said they felt this would be the great separations of the wheat and tares. The separation process at its core will be the separation of prideful and the humble.

Humility, selflessness and submitting to all things was the example of Christ.
Pride and selfishness and wanting his own will over Father’s was the example of Lucifer.

There is much more on this subject but I will stop here.

I highly suggest reading Presidents Bensons talk “Beware of Pride” again and again.

http://tinyurl.com/2jkuom “Beware of Pride”

[kathyncaptain of 1,000]

Bella, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. I sent a copy of this to family members.

[ktgcaptain of 100]

I didn't read all your post but I agree with most of what I read. I know someone who has gone out of the country several times to a 'healer' and she says it has helped her a lot. I told my mom about it and asked her if she thought evil spirits had the ability to heal. I think there's a good chance that's what it is, although I don't know the spirit's motivation.

I'm curious, where do you think Satan's and his devils' power originates?

[Hadassahcaptain of 100]

Bella,
Sorry I didn't mean to cause you frustration, I really believe what you said is correct

“It always amazes me that what saves us is the basic simple doctrines we have been taught. If people would follow those they would not need a book on what is wrong with the occult principles. But I have been getting request after request to write a book from people I met and now on this forum. If members just followed what the church teaches their would be no need for me to write…..It becomes a complicated mess when you read doctrines of the adversary and try to intermingled with our faith. If members would just go back to just the basic core doctrines that the prophets and scriptures have taught they would be safe.”

I really believe that this is the key to finding truth. I was just looking for information how to help family and friends because I am not the best debater. Thanks again for the work you do I have learned a lot from you, the information you shared will help in future conversations.

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

Bella,
Sorry I didn't mean to cause you frustration, I really believe what you said is correct

“It always amazes me that what saves us is the basic simple doctrines we have been taught. If people would follow those they would not need a book on what is wrong with the occult principles. But I have been getting request after request to write a book from people I met and now on this forum. If members just followed what the church teaches their would be no need for me to write…..It becomes a complicated mess when you read doctrines of the adversary and try to intermingled with our faith. If members would just go back to just the basic core doctrines that the prophets and scriptures have taught they would be safe.”

I really believe that this is the key to finding truth. I was just looking for information how to help family and friends because I am not the best debater. Thanks again for the work you do I have learned a lot from you, the information you shared will help in future conversations.

Hadassah

NO No No! I was not saying that at all! I am more than happy to give any information I can. I does not bother me at all. You are not a frustration at all. I so sorry that what I wrote could be taken that way. I feel horrible. That was not at all what I meant. I do not have frustration regarding this issue at all. I have total understanding how confusing it is and want to help in any way I can. Good wonderful people that are trying to follow the Lord are getting pulled in. It is not their fault it is Lucifer’s greatest lie. He is appearing as an angel of light.

You are just one of many emails and people that have asked for more information in no way were I referring to you! Nor am I frustrated with anyone other then Lucifer. My wording was terrible and did not express my heart. I wrote that too fast and did not re-read it. If you would be willing to re-read that section and not picture frustration but a heavy heart of sadness toward my fellow Saints and great fear for that is where my heart was when writing. And picture a private person that does not crave attention or to write a book, but I feel the need is there and I need to do it and have been asked by many to do it including my Bishops. In spite of being a private person, I will write it, lecture on the subject and do anything that the Lord wants me to do on this subject. The Lord has given me the added strength and desire to write. I always feared writing! But that has now passed.


I was trying to say…What I say is nothing new that I have nothing special to say that the Prophets have not said. If we stay with the core doctrines we are safe.

When I said: "It always amazes me that what saves us is the basic simple doctrines we have been taught" what I mean is this I am in awe of the beauty of the simplicity of the Gospel and how each day I realize more and more how it is everything we need. As I reach the things I do the clearer truth becomes.

I feel so bad! I just was trying to say that I wish there was no need for a book on this subject just as I wish there was not need for any kind thing that counters to evil.

My point really was this, I never aspired to be a writer, I am a private person with no aspirations of being known, or an expert on anything. But I know that this data has to be shared and I have a burning desire to do so. Not because it is cool to write a book, but because I my heart aches when I see people going astray. Thy will not mine.

I am going to edit this post and get rid of the horrible job I did of explaining myself. Again my deepest apologies. I am so glad you pointed this out and how it would be taken for that is not what I meant but it reads that way. That is what is hard about posts, you can not always get the real feel of that the emotion behind the word are. I was in a rush to post this because I was going to a meeting to discuss this subject...my deepest apologies please forgive for making you feel that way!

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

I didn't read all your post but I agree with most of what I read. I know someone who has gone out of the country several times to a 'healer' and she says it has helped her a lot. I told my mom about it and asked her if she thought evil spirits had the ability to heal. I think there's a good chance that's what it is, although I don't know the spirit's motivation.

I'm curious, where do you think Satan's and his devils' power originates?

We tend to think that Lucifer and the rest of the fallen angel would only want to harm not heal because that is what we think of evil. But what they most desire is worship. They are full of pride, they want followers so they will heal and they will appear as an angel of light to trick people to their side. This way causing the greatest harm of all losing your place in the Kingdom of our Father. When they heal people, they are doing a couple of things 1) The Lord sometimes wants to teach us something through experiences so we are given a chance to learn with an health issue, they take that away 2) They know they will win souls to their side by showing miracles 3) why do we need to turn to God for help if Lucifer is willing give it freely not having to use Priesthood or have real faith etc. (Those are at least some reasons.)

As for where does his powers come from. He has been given quite a bit of dominion over the earth. He knows the laws and principles of how things work. If you want to get deep there are some ideas that go like this: Glory is what gives Father his power. If people give Lucifer glory he gains power. In the occult they say that they can not go against man's free agency but it man ask Lucifer or the fallen angels for something and man worships them and gives them glory it then gives them ability to do things. You could say that it is like Christ knocking on the door if we open it he comes in and blesses us, the same can be said of Lucifer. (this is just a theory)

I want to make this clear Father has the greatest power, just look at the story of Moses.
Lucifer will only have the power that Father allows him to have.

[BrianM]

Thank you for this post. I think I now understand better "The Secret" and Law of Attraction and how Satan uses this type of teaching to deceive us.

Regarding THE LAW OF RESTORATION and THE LAW OF THE HARVEST. As I understand it, the two are basically the same.

Satan's counterfeit of these teachings is THE SECRET / THE LAW OF ATTRACTION.

I understand the Law of Restoration/Harvest as "you reap what you sow" but there's more to it... in that we recognize that all that we receive comes from God.

To reference other sources:

We read, “Do not suppose … that [men] shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.”

That is, sooner or later, one way or another, men and women are rewarded or punished according to their works—and despite wishes or claims or appearances to the contrary—never is the reward or punishment to “a state opposite to [our] nature,” but always to a state consistent with it. As one chooses good, good returns; as one chooses evil, then evil. “[T]hat which [we] send out shall return again unto [us].” (4)

Everyone knows it. Even the kid on the street repeats the mantra, “What goes around comes around!”

Sources: http://www.meridianmagazine.com/ideas/0 ... rvest.html and Alma 41:10-15

Also, I think this is related:
"There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated— And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated." (D&C 130: 21-21)

So, basically, while the Law of Attraction / The Secret teaches us that all we have to do is put our thoughts out into the universe and we'll get what we want... the Law of Restoration / Harvest would be that we receive blessings based upon our obedience to the laws of God.

(If you see it differently please explain, thanks)

[ndjilicaptain of 100]

[ShawnCMinion]

But what they most desire is worship.

This is what I've been talking to my mother about. I was reading a few things about the 2 churches in the last day. 1 of Jesus and 1 of Satan. I was pondering it and just opened my scriptures ( I do that alot just open to some page and read) and I read about when Satan came to Adam demanding worship. It hit me that I think that the church of the devil in the last day will LITERALLY be the church of Lucifer. From the time he stepped up in Heaven and delivered his plan he wanted the worship, he wanted the glory. He came to Adam wanting the worship, he came to Cain, he came to Moses and he came to Jesus. If all the devil and his angels did were what seemed to be pure evil then he wouldnt decieve us so well would he? As a kid I was told that Satan gets his power from us. We give it to him. He has no power over us unless we give it to him freely. That's why he will have SOO much power in the last days and seemed unleashed like never before. We as a collective will GIVE him the power. Let's not forget that we have come to earth forgetting all that we knew in the pre-existence, Satan did not. He has knowledge of things but not ALL the knowledge of God, just enough to decieve. The occult has permeated almost everything in our daily lives. It's everywhere and we've become so accustomed to it that we really arent aware of it most of the time. In fact we are made a part of their rituals (trhough television) and shown sin (our sins are broadcast from the rooftops, i.e. antennas, satelite dishes, cable) daily and our children are taught lies and self help techniques in school. (we dont even see it anymore.) I was talking to my mother about thinking the cleansing had to come soon cause if it didnt we wouldnt have any righteous left to care about in another 50 years. It's very sad and I dont think God will let this go on much longer. My opinion of course. Just me thinking out loud.

I think you nailed this one.

[ndjilicaptain of 100]

Thanks Shawn.

[Hadassahcaptain of 100]

Bella I am so sorry I misunderstood you, the blame is not yours but mine. I am learning a lot from you and others that are posting on this subject and I think my questions have been answered. The black and white parts of the movement were easy to spot it was the gray areas that I needed help with. I can't tell you how much I appreciate being able to see the agenda with more clarity. I wish I had the time to add to the conversation because of my strong interest in the subject but for now I will have to be satisfied just reading and learning. Thanks again.

Ndjili great post, I love the insights you bring to this forum you and your Mom are a great contribution to this site.

[ktgcaptain of 100]

We tend to think that Lucifer and the rest of the fallen angel would only want to harm not heal because that is what we think of evil. But what they most desire is worship. They are full of pride, they want followers so they will heal and they will appear as an angel of light to trick people to their side. This way causing the greatest harm of all losing your place in the Kingdom of our Father. When they heal people, they are doing a couple of things 1) The Lord sometimes wants to teach us something through experiences so we are given a chance to learn with an health issue, they take that away 2) They know they will win souls to their side by showing miracles 3) why do we need to turn to God for help if Lucifer is willing give it freely not having to use Priesthood or have real faith etc. (Those are at least some reasons.)

Yes, pride is one of if not their greatest problem. (along with us)

As for where does his powers come from. He has been given quite a bit of dominion over the earth. He knows the laws and principles of how things work. If you want to get deep there are some ideas that go like this: Glory is what gives Father his power. If people give Lucifer glory he gains power. In the occult they say that they can not go against man's free agency but it man ask Lucifer or the fallen angels for something and man worships them and gives them glory it then gives them ability to do things. You could say that it is like Christ knocking on the door if we open it he comes in and blesses us, the same can be said of Lucifer. (this is just a theory)

I've been pondering for a long time about the source of power. It sounds like you are leaning towards Cleon Skousen's theory about how God's power comes from those who worship him (my paraphrasing may not do his theory justice). I subscribe to a different theory.

I want to make this clear Father has the greatest power, just look at the story of Moses.
Lucifer will only have the power that Father allows him to have.

Yes, Father has limitless power and can do all things according to his word.
I'd rephrase your statement and say that Lucifer only has the freedom to use his power that the Lord allows him.

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

Thank you for this post. I think I now understand better "The Secret" and Law of Attraction and how Satan uses this type of teaching to deceive us.

So, basically, while the Law of Attraction / The Secret teaches us that all we have to do is put our thoughts out into the universe and we'll get what we want... the Law of Restoration / Harvest would be that we receive blessings based upon our obedience to the laws of God.

I have always been bugged by The Secret for it's idea that all you have to do is visualize, and the Universe will bring it to you. No God, no effort on your part, no hard work and laws of economics, etc. Unlike Rev. Norman Vincent Peale and his positive mental attitude and positive imaging which was totally about God, faith in Christ, moral and spiritual cleanliness, and hard work, as well as "thy will be done" and "If it be expedient in Thee."

I was first exposed to The Secret a little over 2 years ago. Interestingly, the people who were pushing it most towards us were Garret & Garret from The Producer Revolution and Engenuity, and Rick Koerber and Free Capitalist Project (to a lesser extent). Sadly, it was used as justification to go for the lavish materialist lifestyle, with the big house, fast car, etc. Now look where they are now...

[kathyncaptain of 1,000]

The biggest clue about the Law of Attraction and The Secret should be that they are all about material blessings and have nothing to do with spiritual blessings. So the source should be obvious!

[Oldemandaltoncaptain of 1,000]

Bella, I had no idea that any of this stuff existed. I had never heard of the Secret or of the Law of Attraction before. Thank you for the heads up. Where can I go to do more research on this New Age/Church of Satan. If this is true then we need to be armed with the truth to help our friends and family from falling into Satan's traps.

Old Man Dalton

[kathyncaptain of 1,000]

Oldemandalton....it's literally everywhere anymore. Many books and movies and tv shows deal with occult themes. Bella can give you some good resources, but honestly it's not hard to find. You have to be careful because a lot of sources have some truth, but also throw in a lot of stuff against the church or other good people. In other words, there's a lot of disinformation out there, for sure.

Also, I find I can only read a little about it when I have to read a good book or do some scripture study in-between or it can consume you and have a negative effect. So be very careful. It can point people in a very wrong direction. I would never recommend any book to those who are unsure of their faith; it's a bit heavy and deceiving.)

Oprah is definitely NewAge and into Spiritualism. It's being pushed by many celebrities. You can read "Beneath the Tide" or "Rise of the Fourth Reich" (especially good source). Again, use caution with these things. Google Maitreya (share-international) and you'll get an idea of what the official NWO religion will probably look like.

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

Bella, I had no idea that any of this stuff existed. I had never heard of the Secret or of the Law of Attraction before. Thank you for the heads up. Where can I go to do more research on this New Age/Church of Satan. If this is true then we need to be armed with the truth to help our friends and family from falling into Satan's traps.

Old Man Dalton

Most of the work against about it is done by Christians that is where I would suggest reading. I am working on a book for the LDS since one is not finished and will not be done for months. Here are some good sources:

www.reinventingjesuschrist.com This is a free online book you can even download it. Warren Smith does very good research. I do the same as he does. His is quite accurate.

www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com This is a site that help warn people of the spiritual part of the conspiracy. Warren Smith works with this site. Of course we have the problem of them not understanding Mormonism, but the do have a good grasp on the occult and how it is appearing as an angel of light.

www.Cumbey.blogspot.com Constance Cumbey is the original Christian to expose the New Age Movement for what it was the occult and part of the conspiracy of a one world order and one world spirituality. Her book was called Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow. It can still be bought be is out of print.

You will find out their different beliefs on who the anti-Christ is. But the main thing to understand is the core beliefs of the new age occult and who is teaching it. They are names you will most likely recognize it you watch TV or go in bookstores ever.

There are tons of occult sites on the internet they are pretty much taking it over. They are the best selling books in the stores. It has taken over our public to the point it is the excepted and is the Politically Correct spirituality.

If you do a search under my posts you will find some names of authors and things they say. Just avoid my many post regarding food storage regarding to share or not to share…I just have a thing for Charity........LOL

Most everything else I have posted is regarding my research on this topic of the occult.

I am hoping to write an overview that is quick and to the point so I can get the info out there, since I have been ask by many people for this data. Then I will come out with a couple of books. One that exposes it and one that is a fiction regarding it. It is a very complicated issue, it webs into all aspects of our lives. They have infiltrated so much it is unreal. It is the spiritual side of the NWO.

I agree we need to be fully aware about it. What will come as a shock is many of the ideas and books are in most LDS homes……they have no idea what the books are really saying. It sounds so close to what we teach they get tricked. It is Lucifer appearing as an angel of light with his 99% truths. The difference to tell is Thy will not mine or My will not Thine and if they say pretty much what we might say but do not talk of sin and repentance, judgments and a Father in Heaven that we submet our will to and our judged by, then they are preaching the occult. It all laws they teach go back to things that were taught Initiate to Initiate Master to pupil via secret oaths…now lots of it is being taught in the open.

LDS are easy prey for we do believe we “can” become Gods, these teaching tell the same, just from Lucifer’s view point. They preach unconditional love, harmony, sharing, peace…..wonderful things but under the wrong Plan.

The two Plans in the pre-mortal world are still fighting today. We tend to think they are the political movements and that is correct but just missing the half that is spiritual that is now taking over and is the new Sprituality of the world.

Feel free to email or IM me with any questions I will try to help.

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

When I found this blog by an LDS member that is 100% into The Secret and knows it is coming from a demon! This made me really understand how truly dire the situation has become with in our church.

I want to explain this part first before I quote the blog.

The law of attraction is taught by “The Secret” movie and book. And also by “The Law of Attraction” by Esther and Jerry Hicks. There are many others teaching this now too. It comes originally from the occult teaching of Theosophy. As they explain, it was taught Master to pupil or initiate to initiate with secret oaths. It now is being allowed to be taught openly. It is not longer a “Secret Doctrine” as it was for thousands of years.


This is a quote from a fellow LDS member of the Church trying to justify the Law of Attraction being ok even though it is coming from a Demon on his blog site….

He explains first he war in Heaven and says believes in the truths of the church. Even tell people to not follow the parts that tell us there is no sin…and to make sure they don’t sin and do what the church teaches. Yet he says things like this regarding the spirit or spirits Abraham the Esther Hicks Channels….he knows they are demons.

“So just because a spirit is in the one third group does not prove that he is evil, but he/she certainly could be. What is clear is that you will not learn correct principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ from this group, because they all rejected it so long ago. This group however would have the non-physical viewpoint and expertise in how the universe works, because they did not pass through the same veil of forgetfulness that we all did. They would know a lot more about "source energy", even if they were banished from the ultimate source.

But there could be some of them who are trying to be helpful, and they could be calling themselves Abraham.”

“The principles of the Law of Attraction that they teach are intriging and ring true to me. They are trying to get us in touch with great power within us that we do not even know we have. In general it seems that they are trying to be helpful. An interesting thing is that the teachings in the movie The Secret about gratitude were not taught by Abraham, but mostly by Lee Brower and Joe Vitale and James Ray.”

“They are right about the Universe being filled with Love, but it does seem funny to me that they do not identify the SOURCE of that love, which source is God.”

As you can see he believes in the doctrines of devils and is intermingles his LDS faith with doctrines of the devil …literally. He feels that these laws they are teaching him are gaining added insight for his betterment from these demons. “They must not be so bad” “they are helping us” I hear this all the time…why would a demon do something good or teach something true? Because they are appearing as an angel of light! To ensare you and steal you soul away from Father!

This is how dangerous it is and how it will be the downfall of wonderful saints. Most have not studied far enough to know it is coming from demons. This is an excellent example how when you get into these things you find they work. Then you when you finally find out the real source of where the idea comes from a DEMON you justify and rationalizes away that part so you can keep the new wonderful truth you discovered.

He is not an exception he is an example of what is really happening. I know many personally that embrace these ideas…..they will not let go and justify it in the same way this member does. This is not an isolated incident it is becoming the norm in our church of those that start to embrace these things.

We need to take this issue very seriously for we are losing members everyday to it. Good people all over the world are falling for it. This are not bad sinful, mean, hateful people these are loving kind people that are finding 99% truths and being deceived.

This could be the very steps into the mists of darkness people in your family are taking and in your own wards.

[ktgcaptain of 100]

When I found this blog by an LDS member that is 100% into The Secret and knows it is coming from a demon! This made me really understand how truly dire the situation has become with in our church.

I want to explain this part first before I quote the blog.

The law of attraction is taught by “The Secret” movie and book. And also by “The Law of Attraction” by Esther and Jerry Hicks. There are many others teaching this now too. It comes originally from the occult teaching of Theosophy. As they explain, it was taught Master to pupil or initiate to initiate with secret oaths. It now is being allowed to be taught openly. It is not longer a “Secret Doctrine” as it was for thousands of years.


This is a quote from a fellow LDS member of the Church trying to justify the Law of Attraction being ok even though it is coming from a Demon on his blog site….

He explains first he war in Heaven and says believes in the truths of the church. Even tell people to not follow the parts that tell us there is no sin…and to make sure they don’t sin and do what the church teaches. Yet he says things like this regarding the spirit or spirits Abraham the Esther Hicks Channels….he knows they are demons.

“So just because a spirit is in the one third group does not prove that he is evil, but he/she certainly could be. What is clear is that you will not learn correct principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ from this group, because they all rejected it so long ago. This group however would have the non-physical viewpoint and expertise in how the universe works, because they did not pass through the same veil of forgetfulness that we all did. They would know a lot more about "source energy", even if they were banished from the ultimate source.

But there could be some of them who are trying to be helpful, and they could be calling themselves Abraham.”

“The principles of the Law of Attraction that they teach are intriging and ring true to me. They are trying to get us in touch with great power within us that we do not even know we have. In general it seems that they are trying to be helpful. An interesting thing is that the teachings in the movie The Secret about gratitude were not taught by Abraham, but mostly by Lee Brower and Joe Vitale and James Ray.”

“They are right about the Universe being filled with Love, but it does seem funny to me that they do not identify the SOURCE of that love, which source is God.”

As you can see he believes in the doctrines of devils and is intermingles his LDS faith with doctrines of the devil …literally. He feels that these laws they are teaching him are gaining added insight for his betterment from these demons. “They must not be so bad” “they are helping us” I hear this all the time…why would a demon do something good or teach something true? Because they are appearing as an angel of light! To ensare you and steal you soul away from Father!

This is how dangerous it is and how it will be the downfall of wonderful saints. Most have not studied far enough to know it is coming from demons. This is an excellent example how when you get into these things you find they work. Then you when you finally find out the real source of where the idea comes from a DEMON you justify and rationalizes away that part so you can keep the new wonderful truth you discovered.

He is not an exception he is an example of what is really happening. I know many personally that embrace these ideas…..they will not let go and justify it in the same way this member does. This is not an isolated incident it is becoming the norm in our church of those that start to embrace these things.

We need to take this issue very seriously for we are losing members everyday to it. Good people all over the world are falling for it. This are not bad sinful, mean, hateful people these are loving kind people that are finding 99% truths and being deceived.

This could be the very steps into the mists of darkness people in your family are taking and in your own wards.

I've witnessed similar things, but not from these teachings you've mentioned. There are different ones out there and it's VERY easy to be deceived. I think it's best if 99.99% of people forget about learning anything about them and stick with the gospel as taught by the prophets.

[kathyncaptain of 1,000]

“So just because a spirit is in the one third group does not prove that he is evil, but he/she certainly could be. What is clear is that you will not learn correct principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ from this group, because they all rejected it so long ago. This group however would have the non-physical viewpoint and expertise in how the universe works, because they did not pass through the same veil of forgetfulness that we all did. They would know a lot more about "source energy", even if they were banished from the ultimate source.

How in the world can this guy believe this rot? He must not understand the Gospel that well! I had no idea that LDS were falling for this stuff. That just makes me sick.

Bella, it just might be time to get your info out there and into some hands! I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of LDS ladies have bought into the New Age stuff that Oprah is always touting. I hear a lot of younger sisters talk about how great she is. I just shake my head.

[grudencaptain of 1,000]

I want to make this clear Father has the greatest power, just look at the story of Moses.
Lucifer will only have the power that Father allows him to have.

Yes, Father has limitless power and can do all things according to his word.
I'd rephrase your statement and say that Lucifer only has the freedom to use his power that the Lord allows him.

Remember, Lucifer obtained priesthoods and great knowledge in the first estate, so it might be more correct to say that Heavenly Father sets bounds on exactly the breadth of the scope he's allowed to operate.

All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence.

Every intelligence on this earth has its sphere of influence - the scope of our lives and foreordination. It's no different for Lucifer. He has great power, but his limits are fixed, otherwise the earth would probably already be destroyed.

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

I want to make this clear Father has the greatest power, just look at the story of Moses.
Lucifer will only have the power that Father allows him to have.

Yes, Father has limitless power and can do all things according to his word.
I'd rephrase your statement and say that Lucifer only has the freedom to use his power that the Lord allows him.

Remember, Lucifer obtained priesthoods and great knowledge in the first estate, so it might be more correct to say that Heavenly Father sets bounds on exactly the breadth of the scope he's allowed to operate.

All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence.

Every intelligence on this earth has its sphere of influence - the scope of our lives and foreordination. It's no different for Lucifer. He has great power, but his limits are fixed, otherwise the earth would probably already be destroyed.

I concur with the above posts.

[Rosabellacaptain of 1,000]

“So just because a spirit is in the one third group does not prove that he is evil, but he/she certainly could be. What is clear is that you will not learn correct principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ from this group, because they all rejected it so long ago. This group however would have the non-physical viewpoint and expertise in how the universe works, because they did not pass through the same veil of forgetfulness that we all did. They would know a lot more about "source energy", even if they were banished from the ultimate source.

How in the world can this guy believe this rot? He must not understand the Gospel that well! I had no idea that LDS were falling for this stuff. That just makes me sick.

Bella, it just might be time to get your info out there and into some hands! I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of LDS ladies have bought into the New Age stuff that Oprah is always touting. I hear a lot of younger sisters talk about how great she is. I just shake my head.

I hear it too all the time, Oprah can do no wrong.....because she is so sweet and gives so many gifts away...she is just trying to help everyone.....

The deception is worse than anyone knows, it is true everywhere and very hard pull members out of it once they are into it. Because it gives them what they desire quickly without waiting apon the Lord and obeying Him. It also seems loving and peaceful. They feel they have found something new that puts them above others by being "enlightened". This is the politically correct spirituality. That you are cool and wonderful if you embrace it, if not you are old fashioned, backwards and selfish and judgemental. It is a hard argument to fight........

[Mosbycaptain of 1,000]

Bella-
Thanks for the info on "the secret" and the "new age religions" it is well researched and thought out. I have personally seen in my ward a great family who lost everything because of dabbling in this sort of thing. First it was "the secret" and then (I guess) this deadened their senses to the con artists than ran the "producer revolution" - it's sad how good folks get lead down this path.

I won't lie I have studied this type of thing to many years and believe like you that they teach 99.9% truth- however the .01% is leaving out God in the equation- which of course makes all the difference.

I am very thankful that each time I have read this material I always have a little voice that says "something is not right here" - it has saved me from further study and depth in the issue. I am always wary when folks forget the God Of Heaven when they start talking about "laws of nature" etc.

Thanks for getting the word out- the devil is very sophisticated and you have to do your homework to recognize his traps.

Thanks also for busting -out "Oprah" - I tire of hearing how wonderfull she is as well- she's neck deep in the occult's new "religion" and her "God" is the God of this earth, and she gladly leads others down this "enlightened road".

[FTCcaptain of 100]

I, too, am a believer of The Secret - believing that it is a crock o' crap! After watching bits and pieces of it here and there, just like Mosby, you get that feeling that things just don't fit quite right. However, one of the premises of The Secret is getting in sync with the universe at large. Now, obviously its God that created the Universe, thus, one would expect that He is intertwined all throughout it. I guess its kinda like the Apocrypha (D&C 91). In the end, the whole point of most things are to have all truth circumscribed into one great whole, however, the philosophies of men mingled with scripture make that quite the daunting task at times.

[Mosbycaptain of 1,000]

Yeah - I'm really glad that we have that wonderful gift called the Spirit to keep us (me) out of trouble- cause if not, I would be chillin' on some island with my 2 million dollar yacht right now- because I know the "Secret"

[ktgcaptain of 100]

I want to make this clear Father has the greatest power, just look at the story of Moses.
Lucifer will only have the power that Father allows him to have.

Yes, Father has limitless power and can do all things according to his word.
I'd rephrase your statement and say that Lucifer only has the freedom to use his power that the Lord allows him.

Remember, Lucifer obtained priesthoods and great knowledge in the first estate, so it might be more correct to say that Heavenly Father sets bounds on exactly the breadth of the scope he's allowed to operate.

All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence.

Every intelligence on this earth has its sphere of influence - the scope of our lives and foreordination. It's no different for Lucifer. He has great power, but his limits are fixed, otherwise the earth would probably already be destroyed.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.
So if Lucifer obtained power in his first estate through gaining knowledge, would it be illogical to assume that we also have power from the knowledge we gained in the first estate, but we are blocked from that knowledge and therefore the power by the veil?

[Emmanuel Goldsteincaptain of 50]

I must have ADD because I could not follow the initial post. It was like trying to push peanut butter through a straw. Simplify, simplify, simplify.

[BrianM]

I admit that when I first saw the Secret I liked it. I thought it was great, I even bought the DVD. When I was watching it I was inserting my perspective into how I interpreted it. It was odd to me that they never did mention God only the "Universe" but in my mind I was interpreting that as God and based on my understand of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I just figured that people use the term "the Universe" to keep it neutral for all religions and all names people apply to God (I was wrong).

Later on I did start to question parts of The Secret even more, especially when I learned more about Ester Hicks / Abraham...

Now that I've been learning more from Bella on the subject I've come to realize that things like the Secret come from the New Age Conspiracy and we must be careful. It's like when I awoke to the truth about the political Secret Combination, I'm now discovering just how far reaching this New Age Spiritual Combination is.

[Emmanuel Goldsteincaptain of 50]

I admit that when I first saw the Secret I liked it. I thought it was great, I even bought the DVD. When I was watching it I was inserting my perspective into how I interpreted it. It was odd to me that they never did mention God only the "Universe" but in my mind I was interpreting that as God and based on my understand of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I just figured that people use the term "the Universe" to keep it neutral for all religions and all names people apply to God (I was wrong).

Later on I did start to question parts of The Secret even more, especially when I learned more about Ester Hicks / Abraham...

Now that I've been learning more from Bella on the subject I've come to realize that things like the Secret come from the New Age Conspiracy and we must be careful. It's like when I awoke to the truth about the political Secret Combination, I'm now discovering just how far reaching this New Age Spiritual Combination is.

Oh that I had the time from making a living to spend on this subject. Of course, I think that reading the words of the prophets and my scriptures takes up any leasure time I have for reading.