Catherine wrote:
By all means, setyourselffree and others...don't believe the tribulations are near.
This is one of the most ridiculous things you groupies say. Not believing Rowe/spencer/avow/menet/etc. = not believing in tribulations. :-w
Catherine wrote:
By all means, setyourselffree and others...don't believe the tribulations are near.
Post by Desert Roses »
Inconvenient? If you live in Japan, was the tsunami "inconvenient"? In Chile last week, was the earthquake "inconvenient"? Ask the people of Haiti if an earthquake is "inconvenient." Just because we are blessed beyond measure to live in a place of safety, please, don't think of the disasters happening around the world as "inconvenient and abhorrent". These disasters and the accompanying failing of men's hearts, etc., are truly horrible to those experiencing them. Additionally, we have been seeing the awful things associated with war since 1917. Ask any European who lived through the 1940's how "inconvenient" the Second World War and its aftermath were. We are safe here in the U.S., and particularly as Saints, we have been greatly blessed. We are not forced to experience the horrors the rest of humanity has been going through for the last 100 years. Let us not diminish or downplay the reality of these things. If the prophets of old saw our news reports, would they not be horrified and see the events as truly horrific? They described in the best terms they had what they saw in comparison to the events of their pre-technology world. The death and destruction of humankind in the 20th and 21st century are absolutely unparalleled in any human history. I agree that we are living in those times of tribulation right now, but I also think they will get worse, and that the U.S. will no longer be spared. It's ugly now...but it's gonna get even uglier!BTH&T wrote:The tribulations that are to come are will be horrific, not inconvenient and abhorrent.Robin Hood wrote: Catherine,
The tribulations have already started and have been with us for some time. Just watch the news.
Have we seen earthquakes in diverse places? Tsunami's? Volcanic eruptions? Devastating wars? Plagues? Famine? Men's hearts failing them? People calling good bad and bad good? Distress? Rampant immorality? Greed? Pride? Violence...... the list goes on.
Will these thing intensify? According to the scriptures they will. Do we need Julie Rowe to tell us this and make herself fame and fortune in the process? No we don't. Remember, one of the signs of the times are false prophets.
Like Noah's, Sodom and Gomorrah evil.
Devastation will cover the Earth.
Don't know where J.R. has claimed to be a Prophet.
Why do those that share a personal experience get dumped on for encouraging others to look to the Savoir, get spiritually in tune, follow the Prophet?
I in no way look to her as someone to follow, she has not asked that.
How ironic.mirkwood wrote:Catherine wrote:
By all means, setyourselffree and others...don't believe the tribulations are near.
This is one of the most ridiculous things you groupies say. Not believing Rowe/spencer/avow/menet/etc. = not believing in tribulations. :-w
Post by Robin Hood »
I wasn't aware you ever did.Catherine wrote:
Robinhood, you never respond to anything in a post that is obviously correct. Your only defense is the issue of money. You skirt every valid point.I just can't take you seriously anymore.
Post by zionminded »
It means her book isn't perfect, and that's likely true. But what book is perfect?Nan wrote:The fact that the church came out and stated that her book isn't doctrine really should be a sign to everyone that there is something wrong with her book.
Post by zionminded »
Did that press release come from the Lord in the temple, or the media and PR department? The article was spun anyway, but I don't support any extreme action, but I agree with the church to be prepared physically and spiritually.setyourselffree wrote:And Brianj, Catherine, zionminded, in 321.
I wasn't aware you ever did.Robin Hood wrote:Catherine wrote:
Robinhood, you never respond to anything in a post that is obviously correct. Your only defense is the issue of money. You skirt every valid point.I just can't take you seriously anymore.
skmo wrote:One of my former students posted this on her Facebook page:
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KurtTheMormon wrote:This is a wrongful report, and you have fallen for the media twisting things around.Alighieri wrote:The end is not yet but by and by.
http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church-p ... apocalypse
Go take a look at what the LDS church ACTUALLY said, in full context. Read the whole announcement by the LDS church, and you will plainly see that they encourage LDS members to be prepared, not the opposite. They took the LDS announcement completely out of context.
Further, they did NOT add Julie Rowe's books, (which I have not read, full disclosure), to a "spurious materials" list to warn people away from them. What they DID do was to tell institute/seminary teachers not to teach from them, which is correct. They should be teaching from scripture instead.
The media is so filthy and full of lies/distortions. But such is the way of Babylon...
AI2.0 wrote:KurtTheMormon wrote:This is a wrongful report, and you have fallen for the media twisting things around.Alighieri wrote:The end is not yet but by and by.
http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church-p ... apocalypse
Go take a look at what the LDS church ACTUALLY said, in full context. Read the whole announcement by the LDS church, and you will plainly see that they encourage LDS members to be prepared, not the opposite. They took the LDS announcement completely out of context.
Further, they did NOT add Julie Rowe's books, (which I have not read, full disclosure), to a "spurious materials" list to warn people away from them. What they DID do was to tell institute/seminary teachers not to teach from them, which is correct. They should be teaching from scripture instead.
The media is so filthy and full of lies/distortions. But such is the way of Babylon...
I read the report, there was nothing wrong with it. The media is a problem, at times, but this report was accurate. You simply refuse to accept the reality that the world has not ended yet and you're starting to get testy about it and try to find someone to blame. The 'media' is simply a convenient scapegoat. :-w
What is wrong with you people? Can you not see that you've been sold a lie? There is to be no global crash this month and no 9.0 earthquake next month and we aren't going to be saved in tent cities from the destruction and suffering which is going to continue throughout our world in various places.zionminded wrote:Did that press release come from the Lord in the temple, or the media and PR department? The article was spun anyway, but I don't support any extreme action, but I agree with the church to be prepared physically and spiritually.setyourselffree wrote:And Brianj, Catherine, zionminded, in 321.
Why are you so disturbed? I could say the exact same thing to you. What is wrong with you people? I would love to have all of the regular posters jot down their ages. I think it would be really telling.AI2.0 wrote:What is wrong with you people? Can you not see that you've been sold a lie? There is to be no global crash this month and no 9.0 earthquake next month and we aren't going to be saved in tent cities from the destruction and suffering which is going to continue throughout our world in various places.zionminded wrote:Did that press release come from the Lord in the temple, or the media and PR department? The article was spun anyway, but I don't support any extreme action, but I agree with the church to be prepared physically and spiritually.setyourselffree wrote:And Brianj, Catherine, zionminded, in 321.
The problems that were foretold by prophets are already happening. The Lord uses them to do his work, part of which is calling people to repentance. If he destroys everything too quickly, then where is the opportunity for repentance?
I think some of you need to accept that life is going to go on, the wicked will continue to prosper and the righteous will have to live by faith and those who follow the Savior will need to learn how to live righteously without being able to have the satisfaction that God has shown his hot displeasure at being ignored, rejected and even mocked. God has infinite patience with his children--he's not ready to turn everything to chaos and terror yet and things are not going to play out like a blockbuster movie. Many things are foretold and must happen before Christ comes, we must learn to be patient.
Our church leaders know that. Julie Rowe et al, don't. They are telling you what you want to hear and you're buying into it. I understand this, I'd like to see the wicked overthrown and the righteous protected and victorious, but when does this happen? It doesn't happen until Jesus Christ comes, and that's still a ways off, IMO. I'd like the wicked to be removed from power and God to take vengeance against them and show that he is out there are not happy with all that is going on, but he will do so, in his own time.
Right now, we, as a church have a work to do. We need to have our food storage and emergency preparedness ready, we need to be self reliant and live righteously, listen to the prophet and apostles and our church leaders and stay close to the church. We need to pray for guidance and read our scriptures. But, we need to keep living day to day and help our children prepare to live in this wicked world and still 'stand in holy places'.
'AI2.0 wrote:What is wrong with you people? Can you not see that you've been sold a lie? There is to be no global crash this month and no 9.0 earthquake next month and we aren't going to be saved in tent cities from the destruction and suffering which is going to continue throughout our world in various places.zionminded wrote:Did that press release come from the Lord in the temple, or the media and PR department? The article was spun anyway, but I don't support any extreme action, but I agree with the church to be prepared physically and spiritually.setyourselffree wrote:And Brianj, Catherine, zionminded, in 321.
The problems that were foretold by prophets are already happening. The Lord uses them to do his work, part of which is calling people to repentance. If he destroys everything too quickly, then where is the opportunity for repentance?
I think some of you need to accept that life is going to go on, the wicked will continue to prosper and the righteous will have to live by faith and those who follow the Savior will need to learn how to live righteously without being able to have the satisfaction that God has shown his hot displeasure at being ignored, rejected and even mocked. God has infinite patience with his children--he's not ready to turn everything to chaos and terror yet and things are not going to play out like a blockbuster movie. Many things are foretold and must happen before Christ comes, we must learn to be patient.
Our church leaders know that. Julie Rowe et al, don't. They are telling you what you want to hear and you're buying into it. I understand this, I'd like to see the wicked overthrown and the righteous protected and victorious, but when does this happen? It doesn't happen until Jesus Christ comes, and that's still a ways off, IMO. I'd like the wicked to be removed from power and God to take vengeance against them and show that he is out there are not happy with all that is going on, but he will do so, in his own time.
Right now, we, as a church have a work to do. We need to have our food storage and emergency preparedness ready, we need to be self reliant and live righteously, listen to the prophet and apostles and our church leaders and stay close to the church. We need to pray for guidance and read our scriptures. But, we need to keep living day to day and help our children prepare to live in this wicked world and still 'stand in holy places'.
Don't you read this board? Look at some of the posts, you'll find them.Catherine wrote:There has been no one who has said that a global crash would hit in September. There has been no one who has said that a 9.0 earthquake would hit the Wasatch front in October. It has been said that there will be possible financial upsets in September, which there has, and that a possible shaking on the Wasatch front in October. That could mean a myriad of different scenarios. Where are you getting your information? If you cannot get those details right then how are you to be taken with any credibility? The global collapse and 9.0 earthquakes are to happen later.
Catherine, I know you are upset, but please, there is NO misinformation in my post and I know my scriptures.Catherine wrote:'AI2.0 wrote:What is wrong with you people? Can you not see that you've been sold a lie? There is to be no global crash this month and no 9.0 earthquake next month and we aren't going to be saved in tent cities from the destruction and suffering which is going to continue throughout our world in various places.zionminded wrote:Did that press release come from the Lord in the temple, or the media and PR department? The article was spun anyway, but I don't support any extreme action, but I agree with the church to be prepared physically and spiritually.setyourselffree wrote:And Brianj, Catherine, zionminded, in 321.
The problems that were foretold by prophets are already happening. The Lord uses them to do his work, part of which is calling people to repentance. If he destroys everything too quickly, then where is the opportunity for repentance?
I think some of you need to accept that life is going to go on, the wicked will continue to prosper and the righteous will have to live by faith and those who follow the Savior will need to learn how to live righteously without being able to have the satisfaction that God has shown his hot displeasure at being ignored, rejected and even mocked. God has infinite patience with his children--he's not ready to turn everything to chaos and terror yet and things are not going to play out like a blockbuster movie. Many things are foretold and must happen before Christ comes, we must learn to be patient.
Our church leaders know that. Julie Rowe et al, don't. They are telling you what you want to hear and you're buying into it. I understand this, I'd like to see the wicked overthrown and the righteous protected and victorious, but when does this happen? It doesn't happen until Jesus Christ comes, and that's still a ways off, IMO. I'd like the wicked to be removed from power and God to take vengeance against them and show that he is out there are not happy with all that is going on, but he will do so, in his own time.
Right now, we, as a church have a work to do. We need to have our food storage and emergency preparedness ready, we need to be self reliant and live righteously, listen to the prophet and apostles and our church leaders and stay close to the church. We need to pray for guidance and read our scriptures. But, we need to keep living day to day and help our children prepare to live in this wicked world and still 'stand in holy places'.
There is so much misinformation in this post I cannot even begin to set it all straight. The timeline is not correct. My opinion is that you are very naive and need to take some basic bible instruction.
Agree with your post. Sorry to paint so broadly.Desert Roses wrote:Inconvenient? If you live in Japan, was the tsunami "inconvenient"? In Chile last week, was the earthquake "inconvenient"? Ask the people of Haiti if an earthquake is "inconvenient." Just because we are blessed beyond measure to live in a place of safety, please, don't think of the disasters happening around the world as "inconvenient and abhorrent". These disasters and the accompanying failing of men's hearts, etc., are truly horrible to those experiencing them. Additionally, we have been seeing the awful things associated with war since 1917. Ask any European who lived through the 1940's how "inconvenient" the Second World War and its aftermath were. We are safe here in the U.S., and particularly as Saints, we have been greatly blessed. We are not forced to experience the horrors the rest of humanity has been going through for the last 100 years. Let us not diminish or downplay the reality of these things. If the prophets of old saw our news reports, would they not be horrified and see the events as truly horrific? They described in the best terms they had what they saw in comparison to the events of their pre-technology world. The death and destruction of humankind in the 20th and 21st century are absolutely unparalleled in any human history. I agree that we are living in those times of tribulation right now, but I also think they will get worse, and that the U.S. will no longer be spared. It's ugly now...but it's gonna get even uglier!BTH&T wrote:The tribulations that are to come are will be horrific, not inconvenient and abhorrent.Robin Hood wrote: Catherine,
The tribulations have already started and have been with us for some time. Just watch the news.
Have we seen earthquakes in diverse places? Tsunami's? Volcanic eruptions? Devastating wars? Plagues? Famine? Men's hearts failing them? People calling good bad and bad good? Distress? Rampant immorality? Greed? Pride? Violence...... the list goes on.
Will these thing intensify? According to the scriptures they will. Do we need Julie Rowe to tell us this and make herself fame and fortune in the process? No we don't. Remember, one of the signs of the times are false prophets.
Like Noah's, Sodom and Gomorrah evil.
Devastation will cover the Earth.
Don't know where J.R. has claimed to be a Prophet.
Why do those that share a personal experience get dumped on for encouraging others to look to the Savoir, get spiritually in tune, follow the Prophet?
I in no way look to her as someone to follow, she has not asked that.
brianj wrote:I believe that Julie Rowe had a vision.
Your profetess JR said it: Market crash now in Sept, big EQ in Oct and Call-out spring '16.Catherine wrote:There has been no one who has said that a global crash would hit in September. There has been no one who has said that a 9.0 earthquake would hit the Wasatch front in October. It has been said that there will be possible financial upsets in September, which there have, and that a possible shaking on the Wasatch front in October. That could mean a myriad of different scenarios. Where are you getting your information? If you cannot get those details right then how are you to be taken with any credibility? The global collapse and 9.0 earthquakes are to happen later.
Ladies and gentlemen: We have a winner!AI2.0 wrote:What is wrong with you people? Can you not see that you've been sold a lie? There is to be no global crash this month and no 9.0 earthquake next month and we aren't going to be saved in tent cities from the destruction and suffering which is going to continue throughout our world in various places.zionminded wrote:Did that press release come from the Lord in the temple, or the media and PR department? The article was spun anyway, but I don't support any extreme action, but I agree with the church to be prepared physically and spiritually.setyourselffree wrote:And Brianj, Catherine, zionminded, in 321.
The problems that were foretold by prophets are already happening. The Lord uses them to do his work, part of which is calling people to repentance. If he destroys everything too quickly, then where is the opportunity for repentance?
I think some of you need to accept that life is going to go on, the wicked will continue to prosper and the righteous will have to live by faith and those who follow the Savior will need to learn how to live righteously without being able to have the satisfaction that God has shown his hot displeasure at being ignored, rejected and even mocked. God has infinite patience with his children--he's not ready to turn everything to chaos and terror yet and things are not going to play out like a blockbuster movie. Many things are foretold and must happen before Christ comes, we must learn to be patient.
Our church leaders know that. Julie Rowe et al, don't. They are telling you what you want to hear and you're buying into it. I understand this, I'd like to see the wicked overthrown and the righteous protected and victorious, but when does this happen? It doesn't happen until Jesus Christ comes, and that's still a ways off, IMO. I'd like the wicked to be removed from power and God to take vengeance against them and show that he is out there are not happy with all that is going on, but he will do so, in his own time.
Right now, we, as a church have a work to do. We need to have our food storage and emergency preparedness ready, we need to be self reliant and live righteously, listen to the prophet and apostles and our church leaders and stay close to the church. We need to pray for guidance and read our scriptures. But, we need to keep living day to day and help our children prepare to live in this wicked world and still 'stand in holy places'.
Post by KurtTheMormon »
Absolutely false. Also, pretending to know what I think is exceedingly rude. Too many people are reading this spun report, (and especially the title of this article, which is not at all the position of the church), and are taking it at face value without reading the entire announcement by the church:AI2.0 wrote:KurtTheMormon wrote:This is a wrongful report, and you have fallen for the media twisting things around.Alighieri wrote:The end is not yet but by and by.
http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church-p ... apocalypse
Go take a look at what the LDS church ACTUALLY said, in full context. Read the whole announcement by the LDS church, and you will plainly see that they encourage LDS members to be prepared, not the opposite. They took the LDS announcement completely out of context.
Further, they did NOT add Julie Rowe's books, (which I have not read, full disclosure), to a "spurious materials" list to warn people away from them. What they DID do was to tell institute/seminary teachers not to teach from them, which is correct. They should be teaching from scripture instead.
The media is so filthy and full of lies/distortions. But such is the way of Babylon...
I read the report, there was nothing wrong with it. The media is a problem, at times, but this report was accurate. You simply refuse to accept the reality that the world has not ended yet and you're starting to get testy about it and try to find someone to blame. The 'media' is simply a convenient scapegoat. :-w
Post by KurtTheMormon »
Further, the way you portray MY mindset is completely false.AI2.0 wrote:KurtTheMormon wrote:This is a wrongful report, and you have fallen for the media twisting things around.Alighieri wrote:The end is not yet but by and by.
http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church-p ... apocalypse
Go take a look at what the LDS church ACTUALLY said, in full context. Read the whole announcement by the LDS church, and you will plainly see that they encourage LDS members to be prepared, not the opposite. They took the LDS announcement completely out of context.
Further, they did NOT add Julie Rowe's books, (which I have not read, full disclosure), to a "spurious materials" list to warn people away from them. What they DID do was to tell institute/seminary teachers not to teach from them, which is correct. They should be teaching from scripture instead.
The media is so filthy and full of lies/distortions. But such is the way of Babylon...
I read the report, there was nothing wrong with it. The media is a problem, at times, but this report was accurate. You simply refuse to accept the reality that the world has not ended yet and you're starting to get testy about it and try to find someone to blame. The 'media' is simply a convenient scapegoat. :-w
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