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HeirofNumenor wrote:May I suggest to look towards Glastonbury, England?
Among the British Israel movement, English tradition and Vatican historians - some hold the view that the Jews drove several of the Lord's family/inner circle away in 36 AD - they tried to kill some by casting them adrift on the Mediterranean without or or sail... through divine providence they drifted to and landed at Marseillies, France - where they traveled north up the Rhone river to Switzerland, hen contied down the Rhine until they crossed the North Sea/English Channel, and created/joined a group of Israelites at Glastonbury...
Those mentioned as part of these outcasts are:
Joseph of Arimethea (whom the locals in England seemed to know as being a tin merchant)
Mary, mother of Jesus (died there in 48 AD- all the apostles are said to have met there for her funeral, and Christ then appeared there)
Mary's cousin Anna (Joseph of A.'s daughter. - she is said to have married the royal Briton line, whom which comes the house of Tudor).
Lazarus, and his sisters Mary & Martha (possibly wives of Jesus)
Mary Magdalene (possibly a wife of Jesus)
Marcella - a maid to Lazarus' sisters (a daughter of theirs & Jesus?)
Maximin - a disciple (a son?)
I do not believe this list is complete.... it is highly likely that if Joseph step-father of Jesus died before Jesus was a full adult, then Joseph of A. took his grand-nephew Jesus with him on his trips to England and elsewhere (India?) where those descendants Abraham (who left Moses during the Exodus, Troy during the Judges, Israel during David/Solomon's times, 10 Tribes after Assyria, etc.) where those people would have quite possibly have been receptive to the Messiah....it is quite possible that after the Resurrection, the Lord moved his family to a safe zone - far away from Jerusalem, Glastonbury, Cornwall, & Wales then untouched by the Romans. Christ is also said to have appeared at Glastonbury in 37 AD - and did much the same as He did for the Nephites, the Hawaiians/Polynesians, and the Scandinavians...
Glastonbury is also supposed to be the mystical isle of Avalon of King Arthur fame (a hill surrounded by a marsh in 450-500 AD).
Despite the persecution against the Christian Britons ordered by Emperor Diocletian in the late 200's AD, something of their heritage (and linage?) survived and took deep root... and surfaced when the apostles arrived in North-Western England in the late 1830's....
A couple of great books that touch on this subject are:
"Whence Came They: Israel, Britain, and the Restoration" by Vaughn E. Hansen, Ph.D. (Springville, Utah: Cedar Fort, 1993)
"The House of Israel", by E.L. Whitehead (publ. 1947) (out of print).
sbsion wrote:ok..yes he had kids, and most of Englands "attitude" of "blue bloods" is because of this?
sbsion wrote:well said, and the King line of England CLAIMS direct lineage to Christ (see"British Israelites")
Stella Solaris wrote:From a theological standpoint, Jesus was required to marry in this life to “fulfill all righteousness.” Marriage is an essential ordinance and must be entered into in this life.
Darren wrote:sbsion wrote:well said, and the King line of England CLAIMS direct lineage to Christ (see"British Israelites")
That is a big part of the message of the Icelandic Sagas. How the patriarchal authority came from the Mesopotamian Valley and settled in the North.
The Apostate also claims to be of the bloodline of King David, as the Orthodoxy version of ownership of the Earth. The right to rule the inhabitants of the earth is what they are vying for.