American white minority

[coachmarcMy own worst enemy]

The gathering of Israel according to Isaiah, who is quoted by Nephi in 2 Nephi 15:

28 Whose arrows shall be sharp, and all their bows bent, and their horses’ hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind, their roaring like a lion.

29 They shall roar like young lions; yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry away safe, and none shall deliver.

30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea; and if they look unto the land, behold, darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.

We are living in a time of modern technology. During Isaiah's time, people traveled by horse, chariot, camel, or donkey or by foot. Today, we have cars, airplanes, cell phones, internet, etc. In other words, our hoofs are like flint! Blinding light speed! Wheels like whirlwind. How fast are whirlwinds?? Roaring like lions? Loud and clear and fierce, without question! The gospel is going forth at great speed!!

Who is they? Who will be roaring like young lions?

They shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea. Who is "them?" The enemies of Israel! Anyone who fights against Zion! For those who fight against the Lord in the land, the whole world will be a land of darkness. Even heaven will be darkened to them.

When Christ visited the Nephites and Lamanites in Bountiful, he taught them:

11 Ye remember that I spake unto you, and said that when the words of Isaiah should be fulfilled—behold they are written, ye have them before you, therefore search them—

12 And verily, verily, I say unto you, that when they shall be fulfilled then is the fulfilling of the covenant which the Father hath made unto his people, O house of Israel.

13 And then shall the remnants, which shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the earth, be gathered in from the east and from the west, and from the south and from the north; and they shall be brought to the knowledge of the Lord their God, who hath redeemed them.

14 And the Father hath commanded me that I should give unto you this land, for your inheritance.

15 And I say unto you, that if the Gentiles do not repent after the blessing which they shall receive, after they have scattered my people—

16 Then shall ye, who are a remnant of the house of Jacob, go forth among them; and ye shall be in the midst of them who shall be many; and ye shall be among them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, and as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he goeth through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

17 Thy hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off.

The Lord promised Lehi, Nephi, Jacob and Enos, that he would spare the Lamanites if the Nephites ever dwindled in unbelief. The Lamanites will blossom as a rose in the desert as Jehovah declared in the Doctrine & Covenants. This "good spot of ground" as Zenos describes in his allegory quoted by Jacob, which is the promised land (Americas) is for the inheritance of the remnant of Joseph. This is what Lehi was trying to tell his children when he blessed them before he died. Of course it's also an inheritance for all who are adopted into the house of Israel, through Ephraim, son of Joseph. And all of Joseph will inherit the New Jerusalem.

[coachmarcMy own worst enemy]

Sorry, there's no such thing as manifest destiny, the white race isn't intrinsically superior, and the idea of being outnumbered by brown people isn't offensive and horrifying.

Who are "brown people"? I've never heard of brown people in my life.

I have. All of my life.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

Of course it's also an inheritance for all who are adopted into the house of Israel, through Ephraim, son of Joseph. And all of Joseph will inherit the New Jerusalem.

From my understanding if your patriarchal blessing says you are from the loins of Ephraim you are literally a genetic descendant of him. If it says you are adopted into the House of Ephraim then you are adopted. Of course there are some of us who are both of the loins of Ephraim as well as having ancestors who were Lamanites. Maybe for us it is even more important to increase the seed.

[coachmarcMy own worst enemy]

Of course it's also an inheritance for all who are adopted into the house of Israel, through Ephraim, son of Joseph. And all of Joseph will inherit the New Jerusalem.

From my understanding if your patriarchal blessing says you are from the loins of Ephraim you are literally a genetic descendant of him. If it says you are adopted into the House of Ephraim then you are adopted. Of course there are some of us who are both of the loins of Ephraim as well as having ancestors who were Lamanites. Maybe for us it is even more important to increase the seed.

Interesting you mention this. If it is true, then I am born to the lineage of Ephraim through my mother. My dad is born of Manasseh. My sisters and I are mixed Ephraim and Manasseh. To clarify further, both of my parents are of Mexican descent.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

The Europid/white phenotype still exists in small pockets in Iran. Yet for the most part those Aryan tribes, who were the ancestors of Persians, are long gone. Mixed with pre-Aryan Elamites and later Turkic, Arabid, etc.. in various migrations & invasions.

correct. Here is an example.

Ali Larijani, chairman of the Iranian parliament

http://pastmists.wordpress.com/2010/07/ ... ghanistan/

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

Interesting article -- http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ ... 0-05-39-15

[coachmarcMy own worst enemy]

On a side note, I clicked that link. Lots of beautiful people with beautiful features, some of which, I could visualize in classical paintings. I realize that being "white" is just skin tone and really has no meaning whatsoever as to ethnicity.

[vaquerocaptain of 100]

http://rt.com/news/us-minority-majority-census-471/

Just wondering what you believe the socio-political implications of this are?

The implications are profound--for us as Americans and also for the Church.

The "our strength is our diversity" campaign is founded on a lie. A nation is held together by a common culture, language, history, religious beliefs, and literature. America was founded primarily by Englishmen, speaking a common language, sharing a common history, literature, and--most importantly--legal and property system, one unique from the continent and the rest of the world.

This nation took that property and legal system, refined and polished it, unleashing an economic engine that has been the marvel of the world. The "diversity" that is now American is tearing this nation apart along the lines of ethnicity, culture, religion, etc. Ultimately, national identity is tribal.

For the Church, the implications are also profound. As this nation crumbles economically, what will happen to the missionary program (its already being affected), the continued construction of chapels, temples, and growth of seminary and institute programs worldwide? The fact is that even the 1st world nations of Europe are dependent on tithing funds from America.

Neither righteousness nor sin know ethnic bounds. While western culture is indeed decadent, it should also be pointed out that non-whites have the highest illegitimate birth rates in this country. The same is true of England. Sexual promiscuity abounds in the non-white nations of Latin America and AIDS is rampant in Africa, a continent where slavery still exists.

As has been noted elsewhere on this thread, it is really about culture, not ethnicity. Self-government was born in the "culture" of the west--Greece and Rome--honed in England, and perfected in America. No other cultures on the planet have produced the results in government, economics, literature, music, art, language and science that have flowed from western europe.

Even in those nations--which are largely related by blood--there are significant cultural differences. It isn't about skin color, it is about culture. The erosion of that culture under the facade of "diversity" has profound implications.

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

oooh! Very good response!

http://rt.com/news/us-minority-majority-census-471/

Just wondering what you believe the socio-political implications of this are?

The implications are profound--for us as Americans and also for the Church.

The "our strength is our diversity" campaign is founded on a lie. A nation is held together by a common culture, language, history, religious beliefs, and literature. America was founded primarily by Englishmen, speaking a common language, sharing a common history, literature, and--most importantly--legal and property system, one unique from the continent and the rest of the world.

This nation took that property and legal system, refined and polished it, unleashing an economic engine that has been the marvel of the world. The "diversity" that is now American is tearing this nation apart along the lines of ethnicity, culture, religion, etc. Ultimately, national identity is tribal.

For the Church, the implications are also profound. As this nation crumbles economically, what will happen to the missionary program (its already being affected), the continued construction of chapels, temples, and growth of seminary and institute programs worldwide? The fact is that even the 1st world nations of Europe are dependent on tithing funds from America.

Neither righteousness nor sin know ethnic bounds. While western culture is indeed decadent, it should also be pointed out that non-whites have the highest illegitimate birth rates in this country. The same is true of England. Sexual promiscuity abounds in the non-white nations of Latin America and AIDS is rampant in Africa, a continent where slavery still exists.

As has been noted elsewhere on this thread, it is really about culture, not ethnicity. Self-government was born in the "culture" of the west--Greece and Rome--honed in England, and perfected in America. No other cultures on the planet have produced the results in government, economics, literature, music, art, language and science that have flowed from western europe.

Even in those nations--which are largely related by blood--there are significant cultural differences. It isn't about skin color, it is about culture. The erosion of that culture under the facade of "diversity" has profound implications.

[Liberty_Agentcaptain of 100]

Personally I do like Hispanics. They have a proud Christian heritage. But what benefit will they bring our nation? All they do is vote straight Progressive-Democrat. It's true when the Irish came here they voted along the same lines, until they chilled out and became more moderate. Perhaps the same will happen in this case. Great thing is that Hispanics are cultural Conservatives and will give the Progressive Democrats hell over issues like gay marriage and abortion, just like the Irish did. Perhaps we'll be able to win them over by appealing to their Social Conservative principles.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

Personally I do like Hispanics. They have a proud Christian heritage. But what benefit will they bring our nation? All they do is vote straight Progressive-Democrat. It's true when the Irish came here they voted along the same lines, until they chilled out and became more moderate. Perhaps the same will happen in this case. Great thing is that Hispanics are cultural Conservatives and will give the Progressive Democrats hell over issues like gay marriage and abortion, just like the Irish did. Perhaps we'll be able to win them over by appealing to their Social Conservative principles.

It's not a question of liking or disliking Hispanics. I generally get along with Hispanics better than with Anglos. However, what does it say about European culture that countless generations suffered through raids from North African slave traders, Islamic invasions, Plague, psychopathic kings and queens as well as horrific wars and yet while their ancestors preserved their cultures, and sacrificed to bring forth children, the final results today are unwilling to have enough kids to replace and preserve their numbers?

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

It's not a question of liking or disliking Hispanics. I generally get along with Hispanics better than with Anglos. However, what does it say about European culture that countless generations suffered through raids from North African slave traders, Islamic invasions, Plague, psychopathic kings and queens as well as horrific wars and yet while their ancestors preserved their cultures, and sacrificed to bring forth children, the final results today are unwilling to have enough kids to replace and preserve their numbers?

It shows that they are worshipping some combination of Babylon, Baal, Ishtar, and Molech...