American white minority

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

http://rt.com/news/us-minority-majority-census-471/

I would note that many of the births listed as "white" are not white since the fathers are non-white.

Just wondering what you believe the socio-political implications of this are? And as for white births aside from the most devout LDS and the average Mormon fundamentalist it seems births from people primarily made up of European descendants will continue to plummet.

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

Non-whites understand that children are a blessing, and whites would rather wait until they are 35 to start having their one or two kids?

Or is it welfare queens popping babies for increased benefits? (sorry for the non PC assumption)

Or are both factors?

[sadie_Mormoncaptain of 1,000]

The white race will be none existent if we don't do something about it. We should be the majority not the minority. I just don't know what to say without it coming off the wrong way. This crap makes me angry and hell.

[Fairmindedcaptain of 1,000]

The white race will be none existent if we don't do something about it. We should be the majority not the minority. I just don't know what to say without it coming off the wrong way. This crap makes me angry and hell.

Hate to break it to you but: 1. No way for that not to come off the wrong way; and 2. We're already by far the minority in the world.

The entire notion of taking offense at there being more of another race than yours is absurd. The only way I can figure it is that white people see the socioeconomic situation they force so many minorities to suffer and are terrified of being in the same position. I would almost consider it amusing comeuppance if I wasn't in the same boat.

Sorry, there's no such thing as manifest destiny, the white race isn't intrinsically superior, and the idea of being outnumbered by brown people isn't offensive and horrifying. The only thing we should be afraid of is our own actions towards others coming back to haunt us when the oppressed become the oppressors.

Back to the entire idea of that gun in the room eventually being turned on us.

[sadie_Mormoncaptain of 1,000]

Sorry, there's no such thing as manifest destiny, the white race isn't intrinsically superior, and the idea of being outnumbered by brown people isn't offensive and horrifying.

Who are "brown people"? I've never heard of brown people in my life.

[Fairmindedcaptain of 1,000]

No need to be deliberately obtuse. Brown people are, obviously, anyone with darker skin than Caucasians. Since none of the other euphemistic colors actually accurately describe the race they're applied to, and by far the majority of people on this earth are some shade of brown.

[sadie_Mormoncaptain of 1,000]

No need to be deliberately obtuse. Brown people are, obviously, anyone with darker skin than Caucasians. Since none of the other euphemistic colors actually accurately describe the race they're applied to, and by far the majority of people on this earth are some shade of brown.

OK. Now I know what you were talking about.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

The only thing we should be afraid of is our own actions towards others coming back to haunt us when the oppressed become the oppressors.

You seem to imply that once whites are a minority they will be treated the same way whites are treated in places like Zimbabwe?

[Henmashercaptain of 1,000]

Lazy mans route here, does anyone have scriptures they feel is directly related to this, i.e. jacob coming through like a lion among the sheep. Just wondering, I cant think of any myself right now.

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

The only thing we should be afraid of is our own actions towards others coming back to haunt us when the oppressed become the oppressors.

You seem to imply that once whites are a minority they will be treated the same way whites are treated in places like Zimbabwe?

interesting discussion here..

a few things i would like to note here..

1. as a whole isnt the church primarily of non-white membership ? despite whats refelected on camera during GC, the church seems to be mainly comprised of brown faces... this in of itself doesnt say anything.. just saying..

2. brigham young once stated something about the abuse of darker races would bring about a curse.. so not sure if this curse comes into play here..

3. also remember that 'the gentiles(whites?)' would be brought unto rememberance of their Deliverer(in the last days) if they did not repent..

so lets say for the sake of argument that europeans at one time were given stweardship of this earth... given the blessing of spreading the Gospel, etc, etc.. and are now responsible for spreading principles opposite to the basic tenents of Christianity(read: the ten commandments).. yeah.. it would seem a harsher judgement would be in store..

food for thought..

i personally see wickedness and cursings impacting all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.. it just so happens that the curse to befall euopeans seems to be a loss of power.

let's discuss..

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

The white race will be none existent if we don't do something about it. We should be the majority not the minority. I just don't know what to say without it coming off the wrong way. This crap makes me angry and hell.

why?

we are told to accept our curse.. move along.. be humble.

but for your curse you are all up in arms..

fact of the matter is and like someone said whites are more concerned with having kids at 35.... or more concerned with same-sex unions..

so you have to be mad at your own for taking the bait.

personally, i see wickedness and cursings amongst all...

[Rensaicaptain of 100]

To me its not about skin color, its about culture. Western culture seems to be the only one with the heritage that values freedom and many other good things. Yes, it has become very corrupt, but still seems to me to have better values than most other cultures.

[SmallFarmcaptain of 1,000]

End of the fullness of the gentiles. Gods words coming to fruition. FYI, despite my lighter complexion, I am a "non-white" (silly term there), having both native american and mexican ancestry. I'm sure many of you would be surprised how "non-white" (grrr I feel racist just saying that ) we all are.

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

To me its not about skin color, its about culture. Western culture seems to be the only one with the heritage that values freedom and many other good things. Yes, it has become very corrupt, but still seems to me to have better values than most other cultures.

i dont side with white, black, brown, chinese.. i side with righteousness..

that said, hearing someone say 'the brownies are taking over, i am offended' seems to imply that is a bad thing. as if non-whites are inherently evil or something. maybe sadie just came off wrong.. or maybe i heard "her" wrong.. even still, righteousness is what i promote and what i look for in a person. not skin color..

[Islam Convertcaptain of 50]

White people... I didn't know I join a racist blog sheesh! My people are Aryan we are not white. The Lord choose non-white disciples today. Why you so worried about not white people like me?

[Islam Convertcaptain of 50]

To me its not about skin color, its about culture. Western culture seems to be the only one with the heritage that values freedom and many other good things. Yes, it has become very corrupt, but still seems to me to have better values than most other cultures.

That is not culture. it is western government putting imperial lords over my people. We have Persian democracy when catholics make everyone join there church. My people give to Western Culture and you forget!!! No you say we don't value!!!! Not True!!!

Western Culture make us have imperial families when we say NO! and they send in the destroying CIA to KILL US!!!

[Liberty_Agentcaptain of 100]

I'm not really sure what you are talking about at all. Where are people forced to become Catholic in Iran? I have never heard of such a thing? Where in the world are people forced to join Roman Catholicism? And Persians contributed a lot to Civilization, no one is suggesting non-whites haven't, but Western civilization? That civilization started with the Germanic tribes at the fall of Rome. And Classical Civilization era was defined by Greece/Rome.

Also the people that founded Persia were racially white, but that was thousands of years ago. Now Persians/Iranians are mixed with native Elamites, Arabs, Turkic peoples. Even so there are still people with the racially European phenotype in modern day Iran, I have seen them.

And yeah, Iran derives from the word Aryan. Land of Aryans. So does Armenia & Afghanistan. An old Finnish word for alien/outsider also comes from the word ''Aryan,'' so it's likely the Proto-IE people of Europe and Asia did call themselves this.

[SmallFarmcaptain of 1,000]

White people... I didn't know I join a racist blog sheesh! My people are Aryan we are not white. The Lord choose non-white disciples today. Why you so worried about not white people like me?

Welcome to the discussion Islam Convert. Not everyone here shares the view of the above poster, and I think it is somewhat unfair of you to characterize the whole blog as racist.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

I wonder if anyone has noted the irony in the way race is dealt with in the US and western Europe. In elections it is okay to say that Hispanics, blacks, Asians, etc. should identify with a racial or ethnic category and vote according to that category, but if whites did the same they would be accused of being racist.

In case nobody is noticing the Democratic Party has a bright future. A while back a political commentator was predicting that with current demographic trends the Republican Party might elect a president maybe in 2012, 2016 and 2020 but beyond that they don't stand a chance as long as "minorities" vote Democratic. In states like California the majority of people are still white but that is only due to the vast majority of old and elderly (past fertility age) people being white. Once they die off the younger (non-white) generation will prevail.

Demographics is a game that the last ones left win. Nations like France, Sweden, Belgium and the USA will soon have non-white majorities and that will, undoubtedly, shift their traditional cultural orientations.

By the way, if one wants to see how social trends affect demographics to to YouTube and type in "coming out stories." You will see just how many young, mostly white, men and women identify with being gay. And even if lesbians desire babies the overall birth rate of lesbian couples will be low.

[Liberty_Agentcaptain of 100]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcmUiCmmmJY

Important to listen to this. The differences between races are confirmed by science. Man is naturally inclined to side with his own race/tribe, although some can overcome their nature. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this. What does this mean for us? Non-whites will vote for the Democratic Party in large amounts just like they are doing now. It took long enough for Irish Catholics to abandon the Democratic Party and assimilate, how long will it take these latinos that have been here for a few generations and keep coming? We know what will happen. They won't assimilate and they'll stick to the Party. That's why the Left is so weak on illegal immigration, they know what they are doing by flooding Conservative strongholds with ethnic minorities. Texas recently had to open up a new district there because Hispanic minorities were being unrepresented. All of a sudden an ethic group that moved to this nation has to be represented. I guess race does exist, when Liberals say it does.

Remember, the most violent places in the world are also the most diverse places. Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Tibet, Turkey. Why is that? If diversity is our strength, why does it create so much violence everywhere? And what will it do to America once we become more like Brazil than England?

Also, it's interesting to note how easily White Hispanics have assimilated into America since moving here.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjMEJC5Dffw

Another important video.

The only thing we should be afraid of is our own actions towards others coming back to haunt us when the oppressed become the oppressors.

Most European nations took no part in colonizing the world. Yet they are being flooded with ethnic minorities that somehow have a right to be there. Gang-rapes were rather uncommon in Sweden/Norway/Finland, now all of a sudden are frequent occurrence in those nations. Muslims in France have contributed nothing besides sticking their rear ends up and filling Paris streets, blocking traffic. And it's illegal to film them doing this because it's "racism." I'm sure we've all seen the muslim riots in France & England on the news. And Germany is being flooded with Turks, what did Germans ever do to the Turks? Besides being allied with them in wars. Why should they be there? Sorry, that's nonsense.

And the Europeans that did colonize the planet, kept the peace, and advanced the state of the world. That's why Latin America is full of second-world nations rather than random tribes, and they are a devoutly Christian people. And Africa had some of the wealthiest nations on the planet shortly after Euro colonization ended. India is now a rising power since being colonized by the British. And not to forget about the success of America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. When looking at the rate of Human Accomplishments from these nations, the inventions, scientific advancements, corporations, etc... it's easy to see how much we have contributed to the world.

This doesn't excuse the evil Europeans did, such as the Spanish caste system which still plays a role in politics in Latin America. Or slavery, of course. However, in the context of history none of this was new. Arabs have been keeping Berber and Black African slaves since the days of Rome. (in fact Arabs are largely of black descent due to this) And Muslims in North Africa were keeping white, Christian slaves and attacking Europe for 1,000 years. That's a thousand years of persecution/invasions and we were the victims. 2/3rd of Romans were slaves, our ancestors. Many early white colonists in America were slaves, this is all forgotten about. Mongols/Huns/Turkic people genocided Whites in Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

Japanese had committed some of the most disgusting, racist war crimes during WW2 against Chinese ethnic groups, Koreans, Indo-Chinese people, and pacific islanders. Yet they don't have any immigrants to change the ethnic stock of Japan. And aren't called racist for doing so. Yet European nations that took no part in colonialism or were themselves victims of colonization (Ireland, Norway, Poland, etc..) are now forced to take in non-white immigrants. And you're a racist if you say this is wrong. So in short, I'm sick of this simple-minded historical attitude that slavery started in America or Whites were the only racist people in history and we are the source of problems for the world. It's just ridiculous.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

In today's America, where whites are still a numerical majority, if a white person is beaten by a group of blacks it is not considered a hate crime and the media generally tries to ignore the event.

What will it be like when whites are a minority?

[sadie_Mormoncaptain of 1,000]

Islam let me clarify. The only true Aryans are the Armenians and Persians. This still holds true today and always will.


Mamnoon

[gkearneycaptain of 100]

According to Stasticics Sweden


ethnic groups: Swedish 89,3%; Finn & Sami (Lapp) 3%; Yugoslav 0,8%; Iranian 0,6%; other 6,3%

I don't think there is much chance of non-swedes becoming a majority any time soon

[Liberty_Agentcaptain of 100]

Islam let me clarify. The only true Aryans are the Armenians and Persians. This still holds true today and always will.

This is what I use to believe, that the Middle Eastern branch of Indo-Europeans were the only ones to call themselves Aryan. But again, seeing as how an old Finnish word for slave/foreigner derives from "Aryan" then it's likely the Indo-Europeans of Europe may have also called themselves Aryan at one point. And Lithuania's language is the closest tongue to Sanskrit, which tells me they were essentially the same people in ancient times. ( http://vilnews.com/?p=4425 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSUwNxI5sQ4
The Europid/white phenotype still exists in small pockets in Iran. Yet for the most part those Aryan tribes, who were the ancestors of Persians, are long gone. Mixed with pre-Aryan Elamites and later Turkic, Arabid, etc.. in various migrations & invasions.



R1a still found in Iran. Notably found mainly in East Europe where I believe the Indo-European/Aryan homeland was located.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmHXBXG7 ... plpp_video
Also worth checking out, documentary about the Aryan migration into Northern Europe. They basically toppled all the old Megalithic civilizations and their language, religion, political structure, clothes, law came to dominate all of Europe. Except for small pockets where pre-aryans were able to survive for a while. Such as the Basque and Finns/Estonians.

[sadie_Mormoncaptain of 1,000]

Any Aryan mixed with Turks is easily identified by the difference in features. There is only a low percentage in the Armenian at lease due to them having been forcibly raped during the 1915 genocide. In the Persians it's few as well.

Overseas is not like here. It is very rare to find culture mixes such as a Persian and Turk. or a Egyptian and an Armenian. Families will not let it happen. Your father, brothers, uncles you name it will make sure it doesn't happen. If it does its very rare. Not only are you not to get married someone of another faith it can go as far as even another denomination.

In the West it's very different. Anything goes here.

Let me just say that it's not just whites that should have pride it's blacks and whoever else. If we don't take pride we will no longer exist. This is how I was raised and it might sound unusual to those of you who are not from such cultures but this is how it was for thousands of years. It's only recently that we've become OK with cultures, religions, and colors mixing.

Even in my own marriage it went as far as marrying a man who was from the same village as my father. This is very common as there is someone that knows their family. All my friends picked spouses that were not only from their culture, country, but also religion.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

According to Stasticics Sweden


ethnic groups: Swedish 89,3%; Finn & Sami (Lapp) 3%; Yugoslav 0,8%; Iranian 0,6%; other 6,3%

I don't think there is much chance of non-swedes becoming a majority any time soon

How old are your stats? Sweden is a small country but has a huge number of immigrants each year. About a quarter of children born today have at least one parent born from another country. That would exclude the Finns who came in during the 1960s for work opportunities as did the Greeks and (then) Yugoslavians.

Most people ignore the fact that once you have reached the end of your reproductive years/potential you are not important in long-term demographics. So most Swedes past 50 are ethnic Swedes or at least ethnic Europeans. Immigrants from such places as Somalia are generally young and tend to have huge families. So you can have four Swedish women who have one kid each in their lives and one Somali woman who has six and so in that group there are six ethnic Somalis and only four ethnic Swedes but if we count everyone as a whole (parents and children) we still have majority Swedes -- temporarily.

Please visit Stockholm, London, Amsterdam, etc. in the future. You may be surprised at the demographic shift.

[gkearneycaptain of 100]

According to Stasticics Sweden


ethnic groups: Swedish 89,3%; Finn & Sami (Lapp) 3%; Yugoslav 0,8%; Iranian 0,6%; other 6,3%

I don't think there is much chance of non-swedes becoming a majority any time soon

How old are your stats? Sweden is a small country but has a huge number of immigrants each year. About a quarter of children born today have at least one parent born from another country. That would exclude the Finns who came in during the 1960s for work opportunities as did the Greeks and (then) Yugoslavians.

Most people ignore the fact that once you have reached the end of your reproductive years/potential you are not important in long-term demographics. So most Swedes past 50 are ethnic Swedes or at least ethnic Europeans. Immigrants from such places as Somalia are generally young and tend to have huge families. So you can have four Swedish women who have one kid each in their lives and one Somali woman who has six and so in that group there are six ethnic Somalis and only four ethnic Swedes but if we count everyone as a whole (parents and children) we still have majority Swedes -- temporarily.

Please visit Stockholm, London, Amsterdam, etc. in the future. You may be surprised at the demographic shift.

They are from 2009 sor they are recent. I have lived in Stockholm and know it to be a diverse modern city but even the most of the population is still ethinc Swedes and these stats would suggest that to continue to be the case into the future. Fact are such pesky things aren't they?

What is perhaps more interesting is the push in Australia for more immigrants, not from Africa or Asia but rather from the United States. You read that right Australia is actively recruiting Americans to come here. This strikes many as odd, America was always a place others went to, not a place where people came from.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

gkearney, facts are indeed pesky things:

About 10 percent of Sweden's nine million residents are non-Nordic foreigners, and Sweden is grappling with their integration. The Swedish government has an extensive set of programs to ease integration, including free Swedish lessons as well as native language instruction for immigrant children. Non-citizens can vote in local and county elections after three years of residence. Foreigners from Nordic countries can become naturalized Swedes after two years and other foreigners can apply after five years.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=1672_0_4_0

The term Nordic refers to Scandinavian nations including Finland even though the Finns are not a Nordic people. And like I said before almost a quarter of people born in Sweden have at least one foreign born parent. The Finns and many otehr Europeans migrated to Sweden in the 1960s so most of their kids are listed as native born and most would have already had any kids they were going to have by now.

The groups that have migrated to Sweden since the 1990s are either North Africans or Africans for the most part with a size-able number of Iraqi people displaced by war as well by anti-Christian hatred in Iraq since the USA brought peace and democracy to the region under Bush. And like I said, most African and quite a few Middle Eastern people have families two or three times larger than Swedes and tend to be in their fertile years when they do re-locate to Sweden.

By the way, there is no way to tell the exact race of Swedes as the USA is the only nation in the "free world" that requires you to list a race on a census or employment form.

[coachmarcMy own worst enemy]

The Times of the Gentiles is nearly fulfilled and will give way to the Lamanites and Israel.

D&C 49
24 But before the great day of the Lord shall come, Jacob shall flourish in the wilderness, and the Lamanites shall blossom as the rose.

25 Zion shall flourish upon the hills and rejoice upon the mountains, and shall be assembled together unto the place which I have appointed.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

The Times of the Gentiles is nearly fulfilled and will give way to the Lamanites and Israel

Would I be wrong if I were to point out that most people who accept the Gospel have Israelite blood? Shouldn't that make it imperceptive that LDS people seek to have large families in order to expand that bloodline?