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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby suspense » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:21 pm

Maybe I am counting the days wrong, but when I count 188 days from the last >7 magnitude quake in your theory (9/15/2011 Fiji Quake) it would have been yesterday Mach 21st since there were 29 days in February this year, which would have put the Mexico quake right on the money for 188 days.

15 days remained in September after the 9/15/2011 quake
31 days in October
30 days in November
31 Days in December
31 Days in January
29 Days in Feburary = 167 days making the 21st day of march the 188th day.
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Postby uglypitbull » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:26 pm

Lots of "booms" and "earth tremors" going on in Wisconsin..... first Clintonville, now 80 miles away in Montello.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby AGalagaChiasmus » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:53 pm

Presuming the Mexico M7.4 is *the* major quake of the "cycle", 188 days from March 20th is September 24. If you really want to split hairs about the date, there are a couple significant meanings there. Fall equinox, Yom Kippur, etc., all surround that time period... Oh what does it all mean?!?!
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby bobhenstra » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:09 pm

Is there a difference? Plus or minus one day, international date line? One day is close enough to suggest to me there's a pattern. But besides 188 days plus or minus one day, what has the number 188 have to do with anything?? Anything lunar with the Lunar Calendar (354.367 days)? (Half of a Gregorian year is about 182 days and Half a lunar year is 177 days). Anything with the Enoch Calendar? Perhaps something historical???

In the new conference center there are 8 point stars all over the place, 8 is the number of "New Beginnings" meaning I think, the 8 point star is the millennial star-- But I can see no connection with anything I can find for 188 days.

This has been an interesting discussion---

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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby freedomfighter » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:34 pm

bobhenstra wrote:Is there a difference? Plus or minus one day, international date line? One day is close enough to suggest to me there's a pattern. But besides 188 days plus or minus one day, what has the number 188 have to do with anything?? Anything lunar with the Lunar Calendar (354.367 days)? (Half of a Gregorian year is about 182 days and Half a lunar year is 177 days). Anything with the Enoch Calendar? Perhaps something historical???

In the new conference center there are 8 point stars all over the place, 8 is the number of "New Beginnings" meaning I think, the 8 point star is the millennial star-- But I can see no connection with anything I can find for 188 days.

This has been an interesting discussion---

Bobby


I'm with you on this Bob. I'm not fond of these people who go onto YouTube or wherever else and make predictions that have no real facts or authority to do so. I think God is in control, and if some one says a quake will strike on any given day, and it does, it is mere coincidence. The biggie that was supposed to happen on Mar 22 didn't. I hardly think that a 7.4 falls into the catastrophic category. We're expecting 9+ quakes.

I remember when Y2K was such a huge issue, to the point a lot of people were apprehensive and trepidatious about it.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Original_Intent » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:42 pm

freedomfighter wrote:
bobhenstra wrote:Is there a difference? Plus or minus one day, international date line? One day is close enough to suggest to me there's a pattern. But besides 188 days plus or minus one day, what has the number 188 have to do with anything?? Anything lunar with the Lunar Calendar (354.367 days)? (Half of a Gregorian year is about 182 days and Half a lunar year is 177 days). Anything with the Enoch Calendar? Perhaps something historical???

In the new conference center there are 8 point stars all over the place, 8 is the number of "New Beginnings" meaning I think, the 8 point star is the millennial star-- But I can see no connection with anything I can find for 188 days.

This has been an interesting discussion---

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I'm with you on this Bob. I'm not fond of these people who go onto YouTube or wherever else and make predictions that have no real facts or authority to do so. I think God is in control, and if some one says a quake will strike on any given day, and it does, it is mere coincidence. The biggie that was supposed to happen on Mar 22 didn't. I hardly think that a 7.4 falls into the catastrophic category. We're expecting 9+ quakes.

I remember when Y2K was such a huge issue, to the point a lot of people were apprehensive and trepidatious about it.

Bob isn't saying what you are agreeing to, FYI. :D
Also, FYI, the prediction was for a "7.1 or larger" - it didn't specify catastrophic, and it is ridiculous to go back and put a "9+" qualifier on the prediciton when the person making the prediciont did not do so.

Fact is, Dr. Jones said that he expected a 7.1 quake within a 48 hour window - and a 7.3 quake occured about 90 minutes before that window - not a direct hit, but certainly something to think about - whether you accept it or not makes no difference other than to yourself - same as me. To me it is inconclusive, but does make me think it bears further investigation. FWIW.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby freedomfighter » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:08 pm

Original_Intent wrote:Fact is, Dr. Jones said that he expected a 7.1 quake within a 48 hour window - and a 7.3 quake occured about 90 minutes before that window - not a direct hit, but certainly something to think about - whether you accept it or not makes no difference other than to yourself - same as me. To me it is inconclusive, but does make me think it bears further investigation. FWIW.


Actually, I wasn't referring to Dr Jones at all. I was referring to some guy named Terrill on YouTube. I thought it was him that said something about a huge quake. Perhaps I'm mistaken. Nevertheless, I contend that nobody can predict when the massive "rock to and fro" quake(s) will occur, because it will be God's design to use it to destroy the wicked, at least one of the ways. I do not attempt to dismiss or demean anyone using criteria to guess at an occurrence. I mean, it may be some individuals hobby. Who am I to put that down? I just don't think making predictions for millions of ears to hear is a good thing to do. It could cause unnecessary commotion among people.

I was in the 1994, 6.7 quake in CA. That was enough for me. :-ss :-ss :-ss
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby SmallFarm » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:58 pm

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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby gkearney » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:28 pm

SmallFarm wrote:Magnitude 7.2 - MAULE, CHILE
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... 008pwq.php


That's not 180 days between quakes.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby SmallFarm » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:39 pm

gkearney wrote:
SmallFarm wrote:Magnitude 7.2 - MAULE, CHILE
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... 008pwq.php


That's not 180 days between quakes.

Although the 188 day earthquake cycle theory is a topic which has been brought up in this thread, another purpose it serves is to draw attention to notable eathquakes "in divers places", as a sign of the times.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Stella Solaris » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:02 pm

SmallFarm wrote:Magnitude 7.2 - MAULE, CHILE
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... 008pwq.php

Thanks for posting this, SmallFarm; I was just going to when I saw you already had. Our son is serving a mission in Santiago, Chile (about 130 miles from the epicenter), and some very kind and thoughtful people from his ward emailed us a few minutes ago as they didn't want us to be worried. They said, as far as they're aware, there wasn't much damage in Santiago (they didn't know about Maule or that area), but most of the buildings there are built with "earthquake resistant" materials, designs, etc... for whatever it's worth. This will be the 3rd earthquake our son has felt there while on his mission (he's been out 10 months).
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby freedomfighter » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:06 pm

Stella Solaris wrote:
SmallFarm wrote:Magnitude 7.2 - MAULE, CHILE
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... 008pwq.php

Thanks for posting this, SmallFarm; I was just going to when I saw you already had. Our son is serving a mission in Santiago, Chile (about 130 miles from the epicenter), and some very kind and thoughtful people from his ward emailed us a few minutes ago as they didn't want us to be worried. They said, as far as they're aware, there wasn't much damage in Santiago (they didn't know about Maule or that area), but most of the buildings there are built with "earthquake resistant" materials, designs, etc... for whatever it's worth. This will be the 3rd earthquake our son has felt there while on his mission (he's been out 10 months).


There was a 5+ quake in Chile yesterday, north of today's quake.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Stella Solaris » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:28 pm

freedomfighter wrote:
Stella Solaris wrote:
SmallFarm wrote:Magnitude 7.2 - MAULE, CHILE
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... 008pwq.php

Thanks for posting this, SmallFarm; I was just going to when I saw you already had. Our son is serving a mission in Santiago, Chile (about 130 miles from the epicenter), and some very kind and thoughtful people from his ward emailed us a few minutes ago as they didn't want us to be worried. They said, as far as they're aware, there wasn't much damage in Santiago (they didn't know about Maule or that area), but most of the buildings there are built with "earthquake resistant" materials, designs, etc... for whatever it's worth. This will be the 3rd earthquake our son has felt there while on his mission (he's been out 10 months).


There was a 5+ quake in Chile yesterday, north of today's quake.

Yes, it's been rumbling there pretty good lately! We look forward to getting his email tomorrow to see what he has to say about all the shaking there the past couple of days. He and his comp live on the 4th floor in an old apartment building in downtown Santiago, but they weren't home when this one hit today. On January 17th, an EQ hit while they were teaching a discussion, and he said the fridge door popped open and books and pictures fell, etc.. Quite an active place for EQ's!
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby freedomfighter » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:02 pm

Stella Solaris wrote:Yes, it's been rumbling there pretty good lately! We look forward to getting his email tomorrow to see what he has to say about all the shaking there the past couple of days. He and his comp live on the 4th floor in an old apartment building in downtown Santiago, but they weren't home when this one hit today. On January 17th, an EQ hit while they were teaching a discussion, and he said the fridge door popped open and books and pictures fell, etc.. Quite an active place for EQ's!


Yes, it puts a whole new meaning to the phrase "Rock and Roll."
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby DrJones » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:58 pm

suspense wrote:Maybe I am counting the days wrong, but when I count 188 days from the last >7 magnitude quake in your theory (9/15/2011 Fiji Quake) it would have been yesterday March 21st since there were 29 days in February this year, which would have put the Mexico quake right on the money for 188 days.

15 days remained in September after the 9/15/2011 quake
31 days in October
30 days in November
31 Days in December
31 Days in January
29 Days in Feburary = 167 days making the 21st day of march the 188th day.


Thanks for this re-count, Suspense!

And for the other comments also.

Notable though small in Utah today:

Magnitude 3.0 - UTAH
2012 March 25 23:07:50 UTC

* Details
* Summary
* Maps
* Scientific & Technical

Earthquake Details

* This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude 3.0
Date-Time

* Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 23:07:50 UTC
* Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 05:07:50 PM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 39.628°N, 112.186°W
Depth 0.3 km (~0.2 mile) (poorly constrained)
Region UTAH
Distances

* 13 km (8 miles) NE (37°) from Leamington, UT
* 20 km (13 miles) NE (53°) from Lynndyl, UT
* 29 km (18 miles) WNW (286°) from Levan, UT
* 45 km (28 miles) NE (47°) from Delta, UT
* 82 km (51 miles) SSW (213°) from Provo, UT
* 128 km (79 miles) S (191°) from Salt Lake City, UT


This is near the southern end of the Wasatch fault...
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Philadelphiaangel » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:12 pm

This is a quote from the text [u]Natural Disasters[/u], 8th Edition, by Abbott, Patrick Leon, p. 129
"No large earthquakes have been reported along the Wasatch Front faults since the arrival of Brigham Young in 1847. In an 1883 article in the Salt Lake Tribune , the famous geologist G. K. Gilbert warned the people of Utah of the earthquake threat and the danger for their towns. In the last 6,000 years, a magnitude 6.5 or stronger earthquake has occurred about once every 350 years on one of the Wasatch system faults. Parts of Salt Lake City, Provo, and Ogden lie on soft lake sediments that will shake violently during a large seism. The fault segment near Brigham City has not moved in the last 2,400 years and is a likely candidate for a major event."

The size of an earthquake would also depend on how much potential energy is released. For example if the Utah fault has the potential energy for a 9.0 earthquake but only releases half of its energy at one time then the earthquake will only be half as violent and save the other half of energy that will remain as a potential threat later down the road. If it releases all of its potential energy then it will be a 9.0. It all depends on how much movement occurs, it could be a little or it could be a lot.

The problem with the greatest earthquakes is due to unknown rifts or faults. In the Wasatch front, there is a known fault and scientists can do analysis and study how much potential energy a fault has. I think when you get into the sign of the times and earthquakes so big that they shake the entire earth, continent, or country then you are talking about "ancient rifts."

Ancient rifts are likely what caused the great earthquake in America at the time of Christ's coming. An example of an earthquake from an ancient rift is the New Madrid earthquakes of Missouri in 1811 and 1812. Scientists say there has "never been equaled in the history of the United States for the number of closely spaced, large seisms and for the size of the felt area" than what happened there. They didn't know about this fault because it is so old that it has been buried very deep in the ground and is not visible like the faults known today. The ancient rift in the central U.S. happened during three main eras, around 220 to 175 million years ago, 600 to 500 million years ago, and 1,100 to 1,000 million years ago. It could also be possible that there is an ancient rift under Utah or the Rocky Mountain area. If this is true then an ancient rift would likely make the faults on the Wasatch front seem very minimal in comparison. Not only this but it would be something that would be completely unpredictable and cause enormous destruction.

The ancient rift earthquake in Missouri would sort of make sense being compared with the earthquake at Christ's visit to America as well but on a smaller scale when looking at the description of an eye witness who experienced this great earthquake in 1811. Here is his direct quote: "Accompanying the noise, the whole land was moved and waved like waves of the sea, violently enough to throw persons off their feet, the waves attaining a height of sev-eral feet, and at the highest point would burst, throwing up large volumes of sand, water, and in some cases a black bituminous shale, these being thrown to a consider-able height, the extreme statements being forty feet, and to the top of the trees. With the explosions and bursting of the ground there were flashes, such as result from the explosion of gas, or from the passage of the electric fluid from one cloud to another, but no burning flames; there were also sulphuretted gases, which made the water unfit for use, and darkened the heavens, giving some the impression of its being steam, and so dense that no sun-beam could find its way through. With the bursting of the waves, large fissures were formed, some of which closed again immediately, while others were of various widths, as much as thirty feet, and of various lengths. These fis-sures were generally parallel to each other, nearly north and south, but not all. In some cases instead of fissures extending for a considerable distance there were circular chasms, from five to thirty feet in diameter, around which were left sand and bituminous shale, which later would burn with a disagreeable sulphorous smell." ([u]Natural Disasters[/u], 8th Edition, by Abbott, Patrick Leon, p.131)
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby bobhenstra » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:38 pm

Thanks for that! I find it extremely interesting that geologists are unable to recognize the damage done by earthquakes and other disturbances (volcanoes) during our Savior's death. The evidences are there, science simply assigns the evidences an older date, geological science simply cannot afford to find something that'll agree with the scripture. Same with the flood of Noah, all the evidence is there, the evidence is simply and conveniently dated to a much older time! And why does science do that? Very simple, they are the experts, and in their mind no one has the expertise to challenge them, they in fact will not allow themselves to be challenged---THEY are the experts!

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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Philadelphiaangel » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:14 pm

It is true science cannot comprehend things like this miraculous event. Sometimes I think maybe this moment in history was too sacred and for this reason it has been hidden from the world.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Gyrlgeek » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:16 am

Does anyone know where I can get, at the very least, a list of all earthquakes over the years. I am especially interested in the smaller ones in the Central/East part of the USA. I want to verify that they have been increasing as it seems they have been even in the short time that I have been watching.

I know that the USGS keeps lists of the larger ones, but I wanted to also look at the smaller ones.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby karen2cruise » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:45 am

1699-2002 central US Earthquake History:
http://pubs.usgs.gov/imap/i-2812/i-2812.jpg

Earthquake histroy by state:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/

Earthquake lists and maps:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby coachmarc » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:50 am

Looks like I slept through a 1.3 last week!
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Stella Solaris » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:57 am

coachmarc wrote:Looks like I slept through a 1.3 last week!
Funny you should say that - my son's missionary companion slept through the 7.2 in Chile last Sunday! They were home that afternoon, because his comp was very sick with the stomach flu/food poisoning, and he was dead-to-the-world asleep. Our son said he thought about waking him up when things started shaking, but it was over in about 20-25 seconds.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby 7cylon7 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:39 pm

188 days not working anymore eh?
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby shadow » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:47 pm

7cylon7 wrote:188 days not working anymore eh?

Actually it did work with the Mexico 7.4 quake. We'll have to wait another 188 days to see if it works again.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby DrJones » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:05 am

shadow wrote:
7cylon7 wrote:188 days not working anymore eh?

Actually it did work with the Mexico 7.4 quake. We'll have to wait another 188 days to see if it works again.


That's the nice thing about observed facts... hard to deny and ridicule. (I've found that some will mock anyway, strange.) Thanks, Shadow.

So, the next window for the 188 day cycle -- is September 25, 2012 +/- a day.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby AGalagaChiasmus » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:48 pm

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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby 7cylon7 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:02 pm

I was not mocking... I did not hear an update about the 188 day theory.
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby Stella Solaris » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:43 pm

Another good-sized quake, 6.3, in Oaxaca today....

== PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT ==

Region: OAXACA, MEXICO
Geographic coordinates: 16.477N, 98.286W
Magnitude: 6.3 Mw
Depth: 12 km
Universal Time (UTC): 2 Apr 2012 17:36:43
Time near the Epicenter: 2 Apr 2012 12:36:43
Local standard time in your area: 2 Apr 2012 11:36:43

Location with respect to nearby cities:
27 km (17 miles) SSE (148 degrees) of Ometepec, Guerrero, Mexico
33 km (21 miles) WNW (302 degrees) of Pinotepa Nacional, Oaxaca, Mexico
109 km (68 miles) SW (216 degrees) of Tlaxiaco, Oaxaca, Mexico
176 km (109 miles) SE (133 degrees) of Chilpancingo, Guerrero, Mexico
179 km (111 miles) ESE (103 degrees) of Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico
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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby AGalagaChiasmus » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:54 pm

4.0 in Southeast Oklahoma. Not in an area that EQs have occurred in the past.

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Re: EARTHQUAKES!

Postby mingano » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:30 pm

AGalagaChiasmus wrote:4.0 in Southeast Oklahoma. Not in an area that EQs have occurred in the past.


Yes, there have been earthquakes in SE Oklahoma before. You can't name a place where there haven't been earthquakes.



http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... istory.php

Southeastern Oklahoma was disturbed by an earthquake on April 2, 1956, that produced thundering, rattling, and bumping noises that were heard by many citizens. Buildings shook and objects fell at Antlers, and many persons were alarmed (V). Minor effects were reported from other nearby towns.

Another earthquake on April 27, 1961, awakened many (V) at Antlers, Coalgate, Hartshorne, Leflore, McCurtain, Panola, Poteau, Talihina, and Wilburton. Once again, thunderous, deep rumbling earth sounds were heard throughout the area.
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