Interesting election stats--

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Bobby and Durangout, I am beginning to "fear for your lives."

Never fear Sis, Flagg and OI can't shoot straight and Shadow and I are tight---we better be, I have a spy in Cashe Valley

Where's Cashe Valley? Vegas? I know a shadowman in Cache Valley in Utah.

watching everything he makes! And besides that, I have a spy in that hospital watching every move Flagg makes



Hmmm, Jeb Bush just endorsed Romney---Boy does Mitt have them fooled!

Or does the Bush family have Mitt fooled?

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Hmm... this is interesting...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... es-romney/

(CNN) - Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, whose endorsement has been highly-sought during the 2012 GOP primary contests, announced Wednesday he was backing presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

The whole Bush family has now endorsed Romney for president and I can now officially declare that Mitt Romney is definitely NOT the one we need in the White House (as if there was any doubt before the endorsements).

So, who Flagg? Your guy Ron has no chance, Newt has run out of money, Rick is coasting on fumes, so who do we need??? The only one left for you is Obama! In your mind is Obama preferable to Mitt? Be brave now Flagg, make a decision---guide us, please---

Bob

Ron Paul is the man we need Bob, but to be perfectly honest, at this point, I have no idea who it's gonna be or what's gonna happen? I do know this much - Mitt has zero chance of beating Obama and I know deep down that my man Ron is not going to be the nominee, but that isn't stopping me from voting for him as I will always vote my conscience and for the man I think is best for the job, no matter what his chances may or may not be. I still say there's an outside chance of a 'white horse' candidate to emerge at the GOP convention - Henry Kissinger is no political hack. My gut tells me that if no white horse candidate emerges, we're going to see Obama back in the White House as he oversees the final destruction of the nation constitutionally, economically, financially and politically.

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Bob - here is a prime example of what sets Ron Paul apart from Mitt Romney...

http://rt.com/usa/news/ron-paul-obama-process-014/

Presidential hopeful Ron Paul has publically attacked the Obama administration’s abolishment of due process in a new editorial, calling the move a turning point in American history.

Responding to Attorney General Eric Holder’s recent justification for the extrajudicial killings of three American citizens on foreign soil, Republican Party candidate Ron Paul has penned a scathing op-ed condemning the White House for circumventing the US Constitution. Earlier this month Holder spoke at Chicago’s Northwestern Law School to discuss last year’s execution of alleged terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki and two other US-born clerics in Yemen, a decision he says the White House still defends despite criticism from citizens and lawmakers alike.

Although both US President Barack Obama and the CIA signed off on the airstrike that killed the American citizens, Washington has been relatively quiet on the matter until Holder spoke earlier this month.

After Attorney General Holder justified the assassination of Americans, a congressional
inquiry revealed that Robert Mueller, director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, wasn’t certain that the same laws could be applied to killing Americans on US soil. With the FBI and Oval Office both hiding behind vague verbiage to allow the assassination of their own citizens, Ron Paul is critiquing what he calls a complete disregard of the Constitution.

“It is particularly bizarre to hear the logic of the administration claiming the right to target its citizens according to some secret selection process, when we justified our attacks against Iraq and Libya because their leaders supposedly were targeting their own citizens,” writes Rep. Paul. “We also now plan a covert war against Syria for the same reason.”

The congressman adds in his explanation that he is all for justice brought on those that threaten America or its people, but that the US Department of Justice has — and should continue — to view these issues on a case-by-case basis. On the contrary, argues Paul, it seems as if the president puts himself above all other branches of the federal government, essentially eliminating the system of checks and balances constructed by America’s forefathers.

On the flip side - Romney thinks it's perfectly OK to do this.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

I'm not doubting you Bobby boy, I'm just not so sure Mitt will voluntarily pick his vice if he wins the election. And I seriously doubt he'll choose a GA to be in his cabinet, especially an apostle. Even if he asked Elder Oaks I would surmise he'd say no thanks!

I think Mitt will pick his own VP, I also believe Mitt understands types and shadows! MY info about the potential of Mitt picking a G.A. for his cabinet comes from a pretty good source, besides Elder Benson served in Ike's cabinet so there's precedent! And, Elder Oaks is still as sharp today as when he was younger. Every President has his spiritual advisers, President Romney will have the highest qualified advisers on this earth!

Of course, I expect a big push back from O and his minions, again, I'm prepared for that! Hope everyone here is also, could be violent!

Bob

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Flagg, Your reasons for supporting the loser instead of the Priesthood holder who has the best chance to beat Obama and can win says loud and clear that you do not understand or even believe prophecy, and that you actually support Obama for re-election. Just admit it Flagg, I won't hold it against you, everyone makes mistakes!

Bobby

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Flagg, Your reasons for supporting the loser instead of the Priesthood holder who has the best chance to beat Obama and can win says loud and clear that you do not understand or even believe prophecy, and that you actually support Obama for re-election. Just admit it Flagg, I won't hold it against you, everyone makes mistakes!

Bobby

Wrong again Bobby and it's no mistake to vote for the best and most qualified candidate to restore the Constitution and America to its roots... and that man is Ron Paul. You can spout off all day about:

1. My not understanding prophecy
2. The 'priesthood holder'
3. The 'loser' I'm voting for
4. My 'actually supporting Obama' because of my vote to Paul

It's clear you do not get it nor can you see what and who we need in office and why, nor can you discern a genuine candidate from an establishment one... and I'm sorry for you.

[Markcaptain of 1,000]

I'm not doubting you Bobby boy, I'm just not so sure Mitt will voluntarily pick his vice if he wins the election. And I seriously doubt he'll choose a GA to be in his cabinet, especially an apostle. Even if he asked Elder Oaks I would surmise he'd say no thanks!

I think Mitt will pick his own VP, I also believe Mitt understands types and shadows! MY info about the potential of Mitt picking a G.A. for his cabinet comes from a pretty good source, besides Elder Benson served in Ike's cabinet so there's precedent! And, Elder Oaks is still as sharp today as when he was younger. Every President has his spiritual advisers, President Romney will have the highest qualified advisers on this earth!

Of course, I expect a big push back from O and his minions, again, I'm prepared for that! Hope everyone here is also, could be violent!

Bob

Bobby you have got some very intriguing thoughts here. I know that the Mittster is tight with a couple of the apostles having seen them together in social circles. Can you imagine the stir that would be created if your man picked some high profile church leaders to be part of his administration?

I think we better pull out some early Heber C Kimball or Parley P Pratt or Brigham Young or John Taylor or (name your favorite early church leaders prophesies.)

The prophet encouraged Pres. Benson to serve in the Eisenhower administration for the good that he would do for the country. We know that the tests ahead will be brutal for the valiant Saints. Perhaps in order to escalate things a Mitt Romney presidency would be just what the doctor ordered to kick things into high gear.

Do not underestimate the plan of the Lord in facilitating a cleansing of this land fellow doomsdayers. This could present some very interesting opportunities for the Lords agenda to move forward in a rapid pace.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Mark, the stir outside the Church would be of no concern to me, the majority of them would be caught up in the cleansing, I'd just ignore them. However, the stir within the Church could be most interesting and sometimes sad! People like Flagg all caught up in what he describes as principal, all wrapped around the little finger of lost hope. People without the knowledge to carry on wondering what Romney is doing selecting an Apostle as part of his cabinet, what it might mean for persecution, future problems? We are told we will lose 50 percent of us from causes of simple unbelief to sever apostasy, we each might have big problems with family and close friends turning their backs on us and the Church, and then becoming part of the cleansing.

It's a good thing we understand Salvation! If I didn't I'm not sure I could face an un-certain future without substantial fear, but now I can face the coming tests with absolute clarity that everything will be fine for me and possible lost loved ones, no matter how bad it gets. I'll share my food storage until it is gone, knowing that my Heavenly Father will bless me with manna as I pass that test. However, that doesn't mean I'll give it away, or allow someone to take it from me by force, when the Bishop comes and asks for food to help feed others, he'll get it.

I'm an old man now, I began to be old about 8 years ago, there isn't much about that can scare me now, even, I hope, were I not prepared, but I am! And as far as I'm concerned, I did my part, fought the good fight, I'm ready for whatever comes. And I'll look it right in the eye when it does!

Bob

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Bob... watch, learn and weep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68yGJMUwd5k

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Bobby... seems Jeb is in the news again...

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politi ... al-choice/

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush thinks the choice for GOP vice presidential nominee is clear – Marco Rubio.

In a comment that nearly went unnoticed amid Bush’s endorsement Wednesday of Mitt Romney for president, Bush told the Pittsburg Tribune-Review that the Florida senator is "dynamic, joyful, disciplined and principled."

And at least one other member of the Bush family – Jeb Bush Jr. – told Fox News Latino Thursday that he too backs Florida Senator Marco Rubio for vice president.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Flagg, I've been learning and watching prophecy being fulfilled for a long time now, the difference between you and I being you think you can stop prophecy by voting for a guy who himself cannot stop prophecy! And Flagg, you like him are wasting your time with all this. We've been instructed by our church authorities to be prepared for what's coming!

Are you prepared Flagg? Or are you still chasing the false shadows of wishful thinking? the only part Ron Paul has to do with prophecy is being a false prophet!

Bob

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Flagg, I've been learning and watching prophecy being fulfilled for a long time now, the difference between you and I being you think you can stop prophecy by voting for a guy who himself cannot stop prophecy! And Flagg, you like him are wasting your time with all this. We've been instructed by our church authorities to be prepared for what's coming!

Are you prepared Flagg? Or are you still chasing the false shadows of wishful thinking? the only part Ron Paul has to do with prophecy is being a false prophet!

Bob

Bob, I hate to break it to you, but there is no prophecy about a Mormon being elected to the highest office in the land. You can quote that Heber J. Grant one all you want about the president 'consulting the leaders of the church', but that doesn't mean he will hold the priesthood and even if it did state such, I would still NOT vote for Mitt because Ron is more LDS than Mitt is and he understands the proper role of government and the writs contained in the Constitution. If the 'priesthood holder' is going to mean a continuation of Bush and Obama policies while the non-priesthood holder means an opportunity to end the corruption and restore America to its roots, then guess what... I'll always vote for the 'potted plant' (as you like to put it). I'm sorry to say it, but you're the one misguided here.

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Will the Constitution be destroyed? No; it will be held inviolate by this people, and, as Joseph Smith said, "The time will come when the destiny of the nation will hang upon a single thread. At that critical juncture, this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction. It will be so."

It says " This People". I believe Bob is correct!

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

Will the Constitution be destroyed? No; it will be held inviolate by this people, and, as Joseph Smith said, "The time will come when the destiny of the nation will hang upon a single thread. At that critical juncture, this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction. It will be so."

It says " This People". I believe Bob is correct!

In what way Juliette? Our vote needing to go to Mitt?

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Will the Constitution be destroyed? No; it will be held inviolate by this people, and, as Joseph Smith said, "The time will come when the destiny of the nation will hang upon a single thread. At that critical juncture, this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction. It will be so."

It says " This People". I believe Bob is correct!

In what way Juliette? Our vote needing to go to Mitt?

Yeah! thats what I mean....

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

It was Heber C Kimball Flagg! Hezekiah, the type and shadow we are given, was a member of the Church! He was able to enter the temple, was humble enough to pray and expect an answer during very difficult times, times like "we" presently live in Flagg! But you go ahead, follow your fleeting thoughts and eventually you'll get it right.

Bob

[Col. Flaggcaptain of 10,000]

It was Heber C Kimball Flagg! Hezekiah, the type and shadow we are given, was a member of the Church! He was able to enter the temple, was humble enough to pray and expect an answer during very difficult times, times like "we" presently live in Flagg! But you go ahead, follow your fleeting thoughts and eventually you'll get it right.

Bob

You're never too old to learn Bob.

[sbsioncaptain of 1,000]

Flagg, Your reasons for supporting the loser instead of the Priesthood holder who has the best chance to beat Obama and can win says loud and clear that you do not understand or even believe prophecy, and that you actually support Obama for re-election. Just admit it Flagg, I won't hold it against you, everyone makes mistakes!
Bobby

fool me one,.............. priesthood is not much good without a TRUE holder?

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

FWIW, here is my bare bones beliefs of what will go down, according to prophesy.

There will be internal conflicts in the U.S. Those who do not wish to fight brother against brother will flee to the mountains of Zion. They will not wish to join the church, at least at first, but will just want to live under a properly empowered government of just laws.
An external enemy will attack, which will to a degree unite the U.S. people in fighting the invaders. I believe that external enemy will be the Chinese and probably be aided by South and Central America.
The fighting will go to the point that the U.S. forces are about to give up, and I believe the central government will be more or less gone. At this point I believe righteous Elders who have upheld true constitutional principles will come forth and save the day- not completely but at least in some major battle(s).
The rest of the army will ask for the assistance of the Elders and ask for "men that can commune with God."

I believe that at this point the Americas will be cleansed, first of external enemies, and then of internal enemies. This may be accomplished thru warfare, plague, or other means.

I don;t know where Bob gets his ideas about a modern Hezekiah. Yes I ahve read the quote about a presdient coming to the church leaders for counsel, I don;t think that means the president has to be LDS by any means, I think it will be because the U.S. is in chaos and we wil be an island of order, and the president will realize he needs to learn the basis for that in order to save the U.S.

I think before that happens the wheat from the tares will need to be sifted, we will need to be a shining example to the world of what is possible, and frankly we are nowhere near that now. That's why I think fantasizing Mitt as the president who will confer with the church leadership is exactly that - a fantasy. (I'm not claiming Ron Paul or anyone else would be that president either.) The only thing I have against Mitt is he fails the qualifications set by the Lord, in his instruction on who to support as leader. His support of NDAA alone disqualifies him. Yes, it is that big of a deal. And there is so much more. But to each their own. I have said the same things many times, there comes a time when you let a dog return to its vomit.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Isn't it wonderful that we have all that information in the scriptures, all the words of the Latter-day Prophets, all the words of Our Lord that we can--ignore?

Absolutely glorious, all that agency

Bob

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

Thankfully, the idea that we will have a priesthood holder president is only a tenet of the church of Bob, and is not in the scriptures, or the words of the Latter-Day prophets.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

OI, In our case (the True Church) the word "Tenet" means "doctrine" The word tenet in the dictionary is defined as; Any opinion, principle, doctrine, dogma, etc., especially one held as true by members of a profession, group, or movement.

When we speak of "tenets" held by the True Church, we're speaking of them as the established "doctrines" of the true Church.

Just thought you'd like to know!

Bob

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

The next three contests are winner take all contests, with a total of 7 winner take all contests remaining. Mitt Romney is favored in all 7, and just those delegates will put Mitt at 937. And, with a total of 23 contests left, Mitt need slightly over two hundred to win enough delegates to be the nominee. New York with 95 delegates will go for Mitt, and Mitt will only need to get a third of the Texas delegates.

There are about 400 uncommitted delegates that are not counted with Mitt's delegates, but Paul supporters seem to think he'll get all the uncommitted delegates, I think that's just wishful thinking, Paul could get all 400 and it wouldn't make any difference.

There are also over 200 so called super delegates, around 30 of whom have declared their intent to vote for Mitt.

Long story short, Mitt won't need the uncommitted delegates.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html

Bob

[pritchet1captain of 1,000]

You know, thinking about it, I think Jason is correct, Ron Paul "is" a NWO shrill! It's been his intention all along to force this Republican election into a Flagg described "brokered" convention! I can see that now! He has no chance of winning, why does he stay in it, obviously his plan is to torpedo the election, force Jeb Bush, the new world order on us, and take away all our freedoms, and that, under the guise of being all for Our God Inspired Constitution! Hmmm-----

I think Jason got it right too.

In the end, it really doesn't matter who gets to be the next POTUS. Just like Reagan, if the person doesn't follow the bankster's wishes, and demands, he or she will be "warned" with an attempted assassination until they are no longer "useful".

Following the thread of Romney's VP, what if he took Ron Paul to be that VP?

I was a proponent for Ron Paul in our caucus. I think the political soap opera continues, even as the current POTUS carefully lays the way for himself to be dictator.

As far as anyone "peeping" about the $trillions lost, those who "peeped' have been eliminated and are on the other side of the veil today. The Gadiantons rule.

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Flagg, Your reasons for supporting the loser instead of the Priesthood holder who has the best chance to beat Obama and can win says loud and clear that you do not understand or even believe prophecy, and that you actually support Obama for re-election. Just admit it Flagg, I won't hold it against you, everyone makes mistakes!

Bobby

Wrong again Bobby and it's no mistake to vote for the best and most qualified candidate to restore the Constitution and America to its roots... and that man is Ron Paul. You can spout off all day about:

1. My not understanding prophecy
2. The 'priesthood holder'
3. The 'loser' I'm voting for
4. My 'actually supporting Obama' because of my vote to Paul



It's clear you do not get it nor can you see what and who we need in office and why, nor can you discern a genuine candidate from an establishment one... and I'm sorry for you.

Col, How can you say RP is a genuine candidate when he's not even in the runnning. He is never going to get the chance to restore the constitution and America. My next door neighbor is a good guy who believes in the Constitution. shall I write his name in? Then sit back and watch Obama destroy this nation further? NO
Is this attitude because you didn't get your way? How many times does this man have to lose before he gets that the majority of American people do not take him seriously? And yet, according to you people, everybody but you, are wrong.
I believe that you are the one who needs an awakening. I feel so bad that you people will intentionally let Satan back into the highest office in this Nation! Way to go............

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Flagg insists on "restoring" something that isn't lost and will not be! True, it'll seem like it's hanging from a single brittle thread, but lost? will not happen! Flagg also insists that the only person capable of restoring said constitution is one Ron Paul, a non member who does not hold the Holy Priesthood, even after it has been pointed out to Flagg many times here that only the Priesthood can "save" the constitution. There being a significant difference between saved and restoration. The Church was restored because it was lost from mortality, the constitution will be saved before it is lost "by," pay attention Flagg, the Elders of the Church, the priesthood!

Our own dear Flagg hangs on to the hope that somehow a miracle will happen and Ron Paul will be successful, without the understanding that the miracle is happening with Mitt Romney! A Mormon for President of the United States, who'd have thunk it? Me for one, but certainly not Flagg! But like Flagg always says, ya live and ya learn (some of us)!

Bobby

[gkearneycaptain of 100]

Our own dear Flagg hangs on to the hope that somehow a miracle will happen and Ron Paul will be successful, without the understanding that the miracle is happening with Mitt Romney! A Mormon for President of the United States, who'd have thunk it?

Getting ahead of yourself here a bit. First off Romney needs to win your general election, a far from sure thing.

[Oldemandaltoncaptain of 1,000]

If we have a brokered/open convention then I am sure the Party Establishment will try and shove a moderate down our throats....again.

If they do then the fur will fly because I believe that Ron Paul has a bigger percentage of delegates than he got in votes and those folks will fight tooth and nail against anyone who is a moderate trying to weasel into the nomination process. Our own County convention was bad enough with the Paul supporters fighting against the party here, I can imagine what will happen at the national convention. Get your DDRs ready. Either way it will make for an exciting convention.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Our own dear Flagg hangs on to the hope that somehow a miracle will happen and Ron Paul will be successful, without the understanding that the miracle is happening with Mitt Romney! A Mormon for President of the United States, who'd have thunk it?

Getting ahead of yourself here a bit. First off Romney needs to win your general election, a far from sure thing.

I like Mitt's chances a lot better than I like Paul's chances! I'll stick with Mitt!

Bob

[gkearneycaptain of 100]

Our own dear Flagg hangs on to the hope that somehow a miracle will happen and Ron Paul will be successful, without the understanding that the miracle is happening with Mitt Romney! A Mormon for President of the United States, who'd have thunk it?

Getting ahead of yourself here a bit. First off Romney needs to win your general election, a far from sure thing.

I like Mitt's chances a lot better than I like Paul's chances! I'll stick with Mitt!

Bob

Well that's true but all the same there is going to be a election and if the past is any kind of a guide then the smart money is on the encomebant. One problem that the Republicans seem to have is they have never figured out that real estate does not vote.