1. We are allied with Al Qaeda minions as they unwittingly do our bidding. Biggest glaring contradiction where the mainstream Neo-Con's can't seem to comprehend. Carefully read and click on ALL the links in the article I posted above AND watch the Hilary Clinton video.
I agree that many of the Republican/Conservative pundits on TV and Radio might not know the past relationships we have had with the Muslim Brotherhood and other evil organizations. All throughout the history of the US we have often followed the old saw “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” to find that it has a tendency to back fire in our face with disastrous results. I liken this to an enemy setting a fire in his neighbour’s field. If he’s not careful it could spread to his own field.
If you check the genesis of all of the Muslim terrorist organizations in the world today you will find the Muslim Brotherhood there everytime.
2. You didn't watch the video of Wesley Clark, did you?
Yes. I’ve seen it before. I would not be surprised if he was telling the truth OR exaggerating. The Pentagon has contingency plans for hundreds of scenarios. Maybe someone was up late reading and found the “let’s take over the Middle East volume” and said “hey this sounds cool!”
If we would have gone independent on oil back in the 70s after the Arab Oil Embargo as we had planned then all of this would be moot. Of course this is the grand plan of Master Mahan and Satan. So here we sit with us and the West depends on ME oil, a fanatical Islamic movement born in the 1920s and now all grown up, Israel surrounded by enemies bent on their destruction, and Iran soon to have nuclear weapons. This is not a coincidence.
3. Your quote about "good men doing nothing".... I'm confused. You certainly applied it to your desire to have the "Responsibility to Protect". You then, seemingly, go on to criticize the doctrine "Responsibility to Protect" as I read your comment that these wars are unrighteous. You also interchangeably use this reasoning to degrade Ron Paul's constitutional foreign policy, but then liken it to the rise of dictators overseas... you really aren't making any sense here. Can you clarify?
Sorry to confuse, InfoWarrior. I was applying the Edmund Burke quote to Hitler’s rise to power whom his neighbour’s, the Europeans, had an obligation to stop when they had a chance in the 30s. That could have saved millions of lives. Same thing can be said about Ahmadinejad and Khomeini’s Iran. We could have stopped them years ago when they first began their nuke program but as in the 30s no one had the ….. ‘manhood’ to do it. Israel did it twice to Iraqi and Syrian nuke sites when they were just emerging with no problem. Each year it becomes more dangerous to the point where we sit now. As I said before Israel has been put into a no win position, on purpose. They will have to try and take out the enrichment facilities and take the blame for the consequences.
Libya and Syria should be the responsibility of their neighbours and the Arab League not NATO or the West. The "Responsibility to Protect" doctrine allows the UN to get involved.
Ron Paul just swings too far even beyond the Founding Fathers. They didn’t require a ‘declaration of war’ for many military actions, I.E. the Barbary Wars for one example. Also the involvement in the internal affairs of other countries, I.E Monroe Doctrine.
BTW, I am sure glad France of 1778 was not run by a ‘Ron Paul’, otherwise we would still be an English colony.
4. They aren't doing all this just through the judicial branch. They're doing it on every aspect of daily life you can think of off the top of your head. This ONE aspect of religious in-fighting that you are focusing on, (like a laser), is merely just one of the thousands of fronts they are using to divide and conquer. It is meant as a distraction in the big picture.
Yes Islamic terrorism is a part of the big picture. Go here for a few more:
5. If you don't think the Muslim Brotherhood is controlled by western entities, you're fooling yourself. Read the links I posted about that again. Again, it makes no sense that we could have Muslim Brotherhood operatives in the WH without our intelligence agencies knowing about it.
You need to re-read them InfoWarrior. They don’t say CONTROL but cooperation. We know what the goals of the Muslim Brotherhood are. What is the goal of the Obama Whitehouse? As if we both don’t know the answer to that one.
6. You say that it is unrighteous for the U.S. to fight wars in Libya, Syria, and Africa etc. You don't want preemptive war. Ok, so tell me why you aren't a Ron Paul supporter again?!?!?
From another post:
Have Trouble With Ron Paul’s Foreign Policy?
Ron Paul believes that ‘Flawed’ US Policies Led To 9/11. Our "troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies."
“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”
The birth of the modern Jihadist’s movement began in the 1920s and Bin Laden, who organized and financed al Qaeda in the beginning, planned to go after the USA soon after their victory over Russia in Afghanistan in 1989. This has nothing to do with any flawed policies of America’s past. Ron Paul does not understand that there are evil men in the world today who want to destroy and kill for a cause greater than just one country. Thus he is naïve about the intentions of Jihadists. He assumes the only motivation for the Jihadists’ hatred for America is our meddling into their affairs overseas and do not take into account the millennial long belief of fanatical Muslims in the spreading of their religion through jihad, the desire for the rebirth of an Islamic Caliphate and End Times beliefs of the fanatical ‘twelvers’ of Iran.
Ron Paul and his followers are myopic and see America as the center of all that is wrong in the world and do not understand that evil exists and uses the error of others to pass the evil they do to them. Hitler blamed the excesses of the Treaty of Versailles Germany signed after WW I to come to power, become a fascist dictator, and Conquer Europe. He used those errors as an excuse for the millions that died in WW II for his own ambitions. The Jihadists main goal is a Caliphate, the destruction of Israel, and the spread of Islam as a religion and government to the entire world. America, Israel and the West are impediments to that goal.
Paul opposed the war in Afghanistan and the ‘Authorization for Military Force’ but voted for the resolution anyway because he was afraid of the backlash from his constituents.
Al Qaeda attacked the US from Afghanistan and was being protected by the Taliban. As Thomas Jefferson and James Madison did in the Barbary Wars we were within our constitution rights to go into Afghanistan after the terrorists (we should have left long before now though). Paul is naïve to believe we could use mercenaries (Letters of Marque and Reprisal) to go after the thousands of al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan instead of our own military as Jefferson and Madison did.
Argued that we shouldn’t have fought Hitler in WWII.
Germany declared war on the U.S. and Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Even with the couple of days advanced warning we had, the Japanese would have still launched their attack. On the same day of Pearl Harbor, Japanese forces attacked the British colony of Hong Kong, they invaded the Philippines, invaded Thailand from bases in French Indochina, and invaded Malaya. We could not have avoided WW II and should have helped the world defeat fascism as we did. This is a naïve belief of Dr. Paul and his supporters.
Ron Paul rejects a U.N. agency report that indicates Iran is within months of developing nuclear weaponry, calling it “war propaganda.”
This is where Ron Paul’s naivite is dangerous to America, Israel and every other country in the Middle East. The evidence is overwhelming that Iran is building nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles to put them on, as I have shown in the many sources in my past posts. Paul and his supporters can keep their heads in the sand and refuse to believe these facts. Calling them “war propaganda” does not make them false, it only shows his ignorance and naiveté on the subject which is dangerous in a Commander in Chief.
Ron Paul says he would remove the U.S. sanctions on Iran.
So Dr Paul wants to stop one of the only non-military deterrents against Iran’s building Nuclear weapons? How about the charge that we supported and built up Hitler before WW II by giving him loans, technology, and trading with Germany? This is a hypocritical stance I have noticed among many Ron Paul supporters. IMO I don’t think we should give loans and trade to ANY of our enemies including Iran.
Dr. Paul blames America for Iran’s efforts to go nuclear.
Chris Wallace asked Paul how he would persuade Iran not to build a nuclear weapon. He replied, "Well, maybe offering friendship to them. I mean, didn't we talk to the Soviets, didn't we talk to the Chinese?"
First off I thought Iran had no intentions of building nuclear weapons!?
Why do they want one?
1.Ever since the Iranian Islamic Revolution they have become the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world and has been exporting their radical form of Islam to Lebanon, the Palestinian Territories, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Algeria, Egypt, and Turkey beside the terrorists groups they fund in Europe and elsewhere. With a nuclear umbrella Iran can realize its goal without fear of interference to” defeat the West, achieve leadership of the Arab world, and assert control across the Middle East”. See IRAN'S “SECOND” ISLAMIC REVOLUTION.
2. Rid the world of the “Little Satan”, Israel, and gain the praise and accolades of all Muslims worldwide and thus become the world leader of the Islamic world and the Caliphate they wish to help build.
3. Take out the “great Satan”. I am sure if they could figure a way to get nuclear weapons into one or more of our cities without it being traced back to them they would do it.
“Yeah, there are some radicals, but they don’t come here to kill us because we’re free and prosperous. … They come here and want to do us harm because we’re bombing them.”
This shows Dr. Paul’s penchant for ‘blame America first’. If he bothered to study the history of the Islamic terrorists and of the Jihadi’s movement he will realize that there goals have nothing to do with our “bombing them”. The Fanatical Islamists just use that as a red herring for the gullible and naïve. If you want to find out the real reason for the terrorism we face today and the Jihadi Movement follow this path; Ottoman Empire, Wahhabism, Muslim Brotherhood, the Hojjatieh Society and New Caliphate.
Hint, go to sources which quote the Jihadis themselves.
Ron Paul is “anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all.”
This contradicts all of the prophesies and God’s promises to the Jews that they would settle the Holy Land in the Last days.
Rep. Ron Paul told Don Imus on his show that Israel was "preventing food and medicine from going into Gaza. And that 'people that are starving' then compared the living conditions in Gaza as 'almost like in concentration camps.'"
Dr. Paul is wrong again. Food and medicine comes in, it is the war making material that is kept out. Hamas even rejected the supplies which Israel took off the ‘Gaza flotilla’ and trucked in. Israel has said repeatedly that any humanitarian supplies are welcomed to come by land but that’s not what Hamas wants. They want to smuggle arms on ships entering Gazan waters.
7. Any major military action in Iran will undoubtedly start WW3. The answer here is de-escalation. Any interference by foreign countries in the ME is considered escalation (including the U.S., Russia, China, etc.)
I agree. De-escalation would be great. As I said before all Iran has to do is live up to the agreements it has signed, stop enriching uranium beyond what they need for nuclear power, be transparent, stop threatening Israel and the US with destruction and tell the world that Israel has a right to exist. Why hasn’t this taken place? It doesn’t cost them a cent, they’ll save money from not needing huge bunkers for their enrichment sites, have the embargoes lifted and be able to join the peaceful nations of the world.
8. On Glenn Beck today, he said it's a catch 22. You act in the ME, you lose. You don't act in the ME, you lose. Why then, wouldn't you (or Glenn) support Ron Paul's constitutional foreign policy? At least you'll be on the side that didn't throw the first punch to start WW3.
We are playing a Grand Champion in Chess. It's checkmate in two moves, what do you do?
Israel has to protect their people. They will do it without our help because Obama will not give it. They have been at ‘war’ with Iran for decades, have HUMINT/ SIGINT/ OSINT telling them Iran is building ICBMs and nuclear warheads, and can translate the Farsi the Iranian leaders use in describing their intentions toward their long-time foe, Israel. They KNOW what will happen if they do nothing. They are not sure what may happen if they DO strike Iran. They have to hope for the best case scenario and try like heck to avoid the worst case scenario. That will depend on what the major powers do after Israel hits the enrichment facilities.