How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby HeirofNumenor » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:58 pm

I meant if economy seems to improve
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby durangout » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:11 pm

Jason wrote:
durangout wrote:
Jason wrote:There is a very strong undercurrent behind him. Just takes the right conditions and he and his ideas could be propelled to the forefront.

For example - we go to war with Iran and Syria in the next 30 days (proxy war with China/Russia) all while our partially gay military struggles to survive (stretched on multiple fronts). Add in a draft via Obama to keep the military alive. Could add in a North & South Korea conflict as well (would be optimum timing for the North to engage). Add in a civil war in Libya. Perhaps kick off all the Arabians against the Jews which would boil into debt constricted (on the knife edge of violence) Europe with a fury. Japan is on the radiation sidelines. Price of oil spikes hard at the same time the banks are resolving the MERS robosigning scandal and on the rampage to extract homeowners who have been subsidizing their lifestyles with free rent for the past couple of years. Economy and stock market tank hard.

Things can turn in a hurry. In the midst of this Ron Paul sweeps into office pulling the troops home which opens the door for Russia/China to flood in. He sells off land and assets....and that still doesn't cover the debt (now in a world no longer dominated by US military and the US dollar) as well as opening up the dollar to competing currencies like a new global digital gold standard. Unemployment and energy prices (as well as food) are skyrocketing. He's forced to raise taxes to cover remaining debt as well as severely contracting government spending. In the meantime the corporations are running nearly tax free and buying everything up including the privatization of military, education, and other major branches of the government, etc. He pushes power to the states which escalates the bickering and fighting amongst themselves as the vacuum created by the declining central government takes effect. State versus state, city versus city, county versus county, we degrade into chaos and anarchy....perhaps over the space of a year or two....could be rapidly escalated with natural disasters that wipe out supply chains and production capability - 3 days and 9 meals away from chaos.

Gads unleash the plagues they've been developing for the past couple of decades in order to prevent further destruction of their property and wipe out the pesky people....


Do you write (I know you're finance by profession), Jason? I mean if you "flushed out" that story line, you would have the makings of a great novel on your hands--seriously.
Don't worry, RP won't be elected. For starters, O won't involve us in a war with Iran until after the election. He knows how unpopular this would be and knows he would probably loose the election over it.

Don't think I'm "dissing" your senario above. it sounds like a pretty solid TEOTWAWKI senario to me. I just don't think we're that close yet.

I've tried writing and discovered I don't have the discipline to be a writer....and it doesn't pay very well. Now if only I could channel a Mormon vampire novel and then make lots of money off the movies....

On O...its easier to get re-elected if you are in the middle of a war. I wouldn't be surprised to see that trigger get pulled before the elections...could also trigger some false flags with lots of shock and awe just prior to wrap the mostly ignorant public around your little finger.

Most people I've come across are stupid and desirous to remain that way....whether its their food, religious beliefs, political, history, etc...the depth of God's love and patience is truly amazing....all we have to do is knock....and yet how many don't (including myself)???


Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby LateOutOfBed » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:34 pm

durangout wrote:Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw


I don't know... I'm kind of with Jason on this one. The American media machine is pretty good at turning the American public into bloodthirsty, war mongering savages with just a few broadcasts. They do a pretty good job at broadcasting that the price of gas is irrelevant because our "safety" is so threatened and important and can only be "saved" by going to war... bunch a crap is what it is, but unfortunately it's very effective against the average dimwit that won't open his/her eyes and mind to what's really going on.

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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby awar_e » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:58 am

LateOutOfBed wrote:
durangout wrote:Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw


I don't know... I'm kind of with Jason on this one. The American media machine is pretty good at turning the American public into bloodthirsty, war mongering savages with just a few broadcasts. They do a pretty good job at broadcasting that the price of gas is irrelevant because our "safety" is so threatened and important and can only be "saved" by going to war... bunch a crap is what it is, but unfortunately it's very effective against the average dimwit that won't open his/her eyes and mind to what's really going on.

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Looking at the big picture ( satan's plan ) we have to recognize that force is his desire. Death is his goal for those who do not bend to his plan. Buying up armies and navies to rule with blood and horror has been pretty much accomplished. Owning the media forces allows only his propaganda to surface and fear of all things is what govts currently use to keep us fearful of everything. A frightened person is a controlled person.
I recall a much simpler life when we did not have Big Pharma assaulting our minds on TV with imagined diseases which we must ask our DR for the latest prescription drug which has enough side effects to stupefy you.
Soon after we find Lawyers advertising how much money they can get you for the damage caused by the drugs or surgical procedure. The days before TV, were when this nation was still great and people had minds that were not filled with fear and drugs.

Now we hope to see those with blank stares from TV and drugs, making this nation to be what it once was. Then we are taught by media lies that we have candidates for office who will make a difference. This propaganda has worked well since the infant days of newspapers and radio. It merely got up to speed when regulations preventing ambulance chasing TV ads, from being broadcast were done away with.

Even George Soros has stated that there is no difference between the outcome of Obama or Romney being elected. He is a power broker of control that should now what he is talking about.
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby Juliette » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:15 am

The only person we believe is George Soros? :-o
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby LateOutOfBed » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:50 am

Juliette wrote:The only person we believe is George Soros? :-o


Way to look past the big points and focus on something silly... the point being Romney == Obama from the standpoint of those controlling the elections and the nations direction. Which for many of us is reason enough to not vote for Romney.

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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby durangout » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:03 pm

LateOutOfBed wrote:
durangout wrote:Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw


I don't know... I'm kind of with Jason on this one. The American media machine is pretty good at turning the American public into bloodthirsty, war mongering savages with just a few broadcasts. They do a pretty good job at broadcasting that the price of gas is irrelevant because our "safety" is so threatened and important and can only be "saved" by going to war... bunch a crap is what it is, but unfortunately it's very effective against the average dimwit that won't open his/her eyes and mind to what's really going on.

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You guys could be right. We'll just have to wait and see. I'm just hoping or the best, I guess. :)
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby sbsion » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:30 pm

oh, I forgot, Obama will leave office before the electiion, and we "...will search the length and breath of the land..." for someone to take his place............and "...none could be found..."? Just a thought
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby Juliette » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:17 pm

LateOutOfBed wrote:
Juliette wrote:The only person we believe is George Soros? :-o


Way to look past the big points and focus on something silly... the point being Romney == Obama from the standpoint of those controlling the elections and the nations direction. Which for many of us is reason enough to not vote for Romney.

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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby awar_e » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:18 pm

Actually he has a correct perspective.
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby Juliette » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:19 pm

awar_e wrote:Actually he has a correct perspective.


awar_e, don't you stand up for him! I thought you were on my side? :ymhug:
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby awar_e » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:26 pm

Truth is that the controllers of our nation, for many years have been assembled to provide us with a "choice" of candidates, neither of which will change things for the better. After you have been disappointed by the results of 50 years of elections, you too will awaken to your awful situation. I was a republican blind fool for my first 40 years.
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby Juliette » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:33 pm

I do appreciate your wisdom. Experience is the best teacher....
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby LateOutOfBed » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:00 pm

Juliette wrote:
LateOutOfBed wrote:
Juliette wrote:The only person we believe is George Soros? :-o


Way to look past the big points and focus on something silly... the point being Romney == Obama from the standpoint of those controlling the elections and the nations direction. Which for many of us is reason enough to not vote for Romney.

-- Geoff


You are an angry little man....


No, actually I'm not angry at all. Little, maybe... I always thought 5'9" was "average". I guess some may say that's little. Sorry you got that from that post. I'm just saying you looked past the point of the posts and picked on something of not as much relevancy.

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P.S. I wasn't meaning my comment as a personal attack... so your response of solely a personal attack shows a bit more anger than my post I'm afraid. :(
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby Juliette » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:53 pm

Geoff, you just couldn't keep it nice, could you? I accept your passive aggressive apology... :-\
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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby LateOutOfBed » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:50 am

Juliette wrote:Geoff, you just couldn't keep it nice, could you? I accept your passive aggressive apology... :-\


I wasn't apologizing. I fail to see where I was "angry" is all. I was just pointing out where I thought you missed the forest because of the trees. I meant nothing negative and don't feel I said anything derogatory towards you. I fail to see where an apology is necessary. But please, if I'm wrong show me where and I'll apologize.

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Re: How I see the rest of election season unfolding.

Postby Juliette » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:52 pm

LateOutOfBed wrote:
Juliette wrote:Geoff, you just couldn't keep it nice, could you? I accept your passive aggressive apology... :-\


I wasn't apologizing. I fail to see where I was "angry" is all. I was just pointing out where I thought you missed the forest because of the trees. I meant nothing negative and don't feel I said anything derogatory towards you. I fail to see where an apology is necessary. But please, if I'm wrong show me where and I'll apologize.

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I don't have time for this nonsense.... moving along...
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