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Jason wrote:durangout wrote:Jason wrote:There is a very strong undercurrent behind him. Just takes the right conditions and he and his ideas could be propelled to the forefront.
For example - we go to war with Iran and Syria in the next 30 days (proxy war with China/Russia) all while our partially gay military struggles to survive (stretched on multiple fronts). Add in a draft via Obama to keep the military alive. Could add in a North & South Korea conflict as well (would be optimum timing for the North to engage). Add in a civil war in Libya. Perhaps kick off all the Arabians against the Jews which would boil into debt constricted (on the knife edge of violence) Europe with a fury. Japan is on the radiation sidelines. Price of oil spikes hard at the same time the banks are resolving the MERS robosigning scandal and on the rampage to extract homeowners who have been subsidizing their lifestyles with free rent for the past couple of years. Economy and stock market tank hard.
Things can turn in a hurry. In the midst of this Ron Paul sweeps into office pulling the troops home which opens the door for Russia/China to flood in. He sells off land and assets....and that still doesn't cover the debt (now in a world no longer dominated by US military and the US dollar) as well as opening up the dollar to competing currencies like a new global digital gold standard. Unemployment and energy prices (as well as food) are skyrocketing. He's forced to raise taxes to cover remaining debt as well as severely contracting government spending. In the meantime the corporations are running nearly tax free and buying everything up including the privatization of military, education, and other major branches of the government, etc. He pushes power to the states which escalates the bickering and fighting amongst themselves as the vacuum created by the declining central government takes effect. State versus state, city versus city, county versus county, we degrade into chaos and anarchy....perhaps over the space of a year or two....could be rapidly escalated with natural disasters that wipe out supply chains and production capability - 3 days and 9 meals away from chaos.
Gads unleash the plagues they've been developing for the past couple of decades in order to prevent further destruction of their property and wipe out the pesky people....
Do you write (I know you're finance by profession), Jason? I mean if you "flushed out" that story line, you would have the makings of a great novel on your hands--seriously.
Don't worry, RP won't be elected. For starters, O won't involve us in a war with Iran until after the election. He knows how unpopular this would be and knows he would probably loose the election over it.
Don't think I'm "dissing" your senario above. it sounds like a pretty solid TEOTWAWKI senario to me. I just don't think we're that close yet.
I've tried writing and discovered I don't have the discipline to be a writer....and it doesn't pay very well. Now if only I could channel a Mormon vampire novel and then make lots of money off the movies....
On O...its easier to get re-elected if you are in the middle of a war. I wouldn't be surprised to see that trigger get pulled before the elections...could also trigger some false flags with lots of shock and awe just prior to wrap the mostly ignorant public around your little finger.
Most people I've come across are stupid and desirous to remain that way....whether its their food, religious beliefs, political, history, etc...the depth of God's love and patience is truly amazing....all we have to do is knock....and yet how many don't (including myself)???
durangout wrote:Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw
LateOutOfBed wrote:durangout wrote:Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw
I don't know... I'm kind of with Jason on this one. The American media machine is pretty good at turning the American public into bloodthirsty, war mongering savages with just a few broadcasts. They do a pretty good job at broadcasting that the price of gas is irrelevant because our "safety" is so threatened and important and can only be "saved" by going to war... bunch a crap is what it is, but unfortunately it's very effective against the average dimwit that won't open his/her eyes and mind to what's really going on.
-- Geoff

Juliette wrote:The only person we believe is George Soros?
LateOutOfBed wrote:durangout wrote:Ordinarilly I would agree with you. I think the difference this time is with whom and where the war would be. With the war being with Iran, it would have a huge impaact on oil prices. Instead of $5 gas the retail price could up as much as 50% over that to $7.50. That is why I don't think O will do anything with Iran until after he wins re-election. fwiw
I don't know... I'm kind of with Jason on this one. The American media machine is pretty good at turning the American public into bloodthirsty, war mongering savages with just a few broadcasts. They do a pretty good job at broadcasting that the price of gas is irrelevant because our "safety" is so threatened and important and can only be "saved" by going to war... bunch a crap is what it is, but unfortunately it's very effective against the average dimwit that won't open his/her eyes and mind to what's really going on.
-- Geoff

LateOutOfBed wrote:Juliette wrote:The only person we believe is George Soros?
Way to look past the big points and focus on something silly... the point being Romney == Obama from the standpoint of those controlling the elections and the nations direction. Which for many of us is reason enough to not vote for Romney.
-- Geoff
awar_e wrote:Actually he has a correct perspective.

Juliette wrote:LateOutOfBed wrote:Juliette wrote:The only person we believe is George Soros?
Way to look past the big points and focus on something silly... the point being Romney == Obama from the standpoint of those controlling the elections and the nations direction. Which for many of us is reason enough to not vote for Romney.
-- Geoff
You are an angry little man....


Juliette wrote:Geoff, you just couldn't keep it nice, could you? I accept your passive aggressive apology...
LateOutOfBed wrote:Juliette wrote:Geoff, you just couldn't keep it nice, could you? I accept your passive aggressive apology...
I wasn't apologizing. I fail to see where I was "angry" is all. I was just pointing out where I thought you missed the forest because of the trees. I meant nothing negative and don't feel I said anything derogatory towards you. I fail to see where an apology is necessary. But please, if I'm wrong show me where and I'll apologize.
-- Geoff
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