Voting Guidance 2

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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby ktg » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:46 pm

Stella Solaris wrote:
jnjnelson wrote:Could you provide the source of this quote, please? I've searched for it, but I haven't been able to find it. I'd like to use the quote, but I want to include the source.

After a quick search online, I found it sourced to these -

The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 614
America at the Crossroads, August 30, 1969
Address delivered on June 21, 1968, at the Farm Bureau Banquet in Preston, Idaho


Thanks for that SS.

In addition it can be found in "An enemy hath done this", page 151:

"There is one and only one legitimate goal of United States foreign policy. It is a narrow goal, a nationalistic goal; the preservation of our national independence. Nothing in the Constitution grants that the President shall have the privilege of offering himself as a world leader. He’s our executive; he’s on our payroll, if necessary; he’s supposed to put our best interests in front of those of other nations. Nothing in the Constitution nor in logic grants the President of the United States or to Congress the power to influence the political life of other countries, to “uplift” their cultures, to bolster their economies, to feed their peoples or even to defend them against their enemies. This point was made clear by the wise father of our country, George Washington:

“I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation has a right to intermeddle in the internal concerns of another; that every one had a right to form and adopt whatever government they liked best to live under themselves; and that, if this country could, consistently with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace, it was bound to do by motives of policy, interest, and every other consideration.”

The preservation of America's political, economic and military independence—the three cornerstones of sovereignty—is the sum and total prerogative of our government in dealing with the affairs of the world. Beyond that point, any humanitarian or charitable activities are the responsibility of individual citizens voluntarily without coercion of others to participate.

The proper function of government must be limited to a defensive role—the defense of individual citizens against bodily harm, theft and involuntary servitude at the hands of either domestic or foreign criminals."
"As nations cannot be rewarded or punished in the next world, they must be in this. By an inevitable chain of causes and effects, providence punishes national sins by national calamities." George Mason
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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby ktg » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:01 pm

"The God of heaven will hold this nation, as well as all other nations, responsible for the manner in which these principles (in the Constitution) are used. If they misuse them, it will be their loss. If they trample the Constitution under foot; if they undertake to deprive any portion of citizens of the rights the Constitution guarantees unto them, they will be held responsible, and will have to pay the bill.” – Wilford Woodruff, Journal of Discourses 25:11
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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby jnjnelson » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:50 am

Stella Solaris wrote:
jnjnelson wrote:Could you provide the source of this quote, please? I've searched for it, but I haven't been able to find it. I'd like to use the quote, but I want to include the source.

After a quick search online, I found it sourced to these -

The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 614
America at the Crossroads, August 30, 1969
Address delivered on June 21, 1968, at the Farm Bureau Banquet in Preston, Idaho
Thank you, I guess I need more practice googling.
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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby ktg » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:40 pm

“The Prophet Joseph Smith said that “The Constitution of the United States was given by the inspiration of God.” But good, virtuous and holy principles may be perverted by corrupt and wicked men. The Lord was opposed by Satan, Jesus had his Judas, and this nation abounds with traitors who ignore that sacred palladium of liberty and seek to trample it under foot.” – John Taylor, Journal of Discourses 21:31-32
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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby ktg » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:02 pm

“I believe in honest money, the gold and silver coinage of the Constitution, and a circulating medium convertible into such money without loss. I regard it as a flagrant violation of the explicit provisions of the Constitution for the federal government to make it a criminal offense to use gold or silver coin as legal tender or to issue irredeemable paper money.” (Ezra Taft Benson, God, Family, Country: Our Three Great Loyalties, 1974.)
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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby ktg » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:52 am

“Again I warn that there are amongst us evil influences plotting and conspiring to destroy all that we hold sacred in our Church and in the nation. If we shall fall asleep to these dangers, we shall some day awaken to find ourselves their slavish victims.” (J. Reuben Clark, Conference Report, October 1939.)
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Re: Voting Guidance 2

Postby ktg » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:55 am

D&C 105:6 And my people must needs be chastened until they learn obedience, if it must needs be, by the things which they suffer.
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Postby ktg » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:40 pm

2 Nephi 26:8 But behold, the righteous that hearken unto the words of the prophets, and destroy them not, but look forward unto Christ with steadfastness for the signs which are given, notwithstanding all persecution--behold, they are they which shall not perish.
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