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"I'll just come to your house"

Postby ndjili » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:21 pm

Katmr posted this on another thread
Just as an example about a month and a half ago a woman from our stake was invited to speak on preparedness, mainly the temporal side. My neighbor was sitting right in front of me and when the meeting was over she turned around to me and said. " you can add 6 more to your preparations.". That's how many was in her family


I'm sure all of us have heard this so many times. I thought it's be fun or maybe theraputic and entertaining to have a thread of our "I'll just come to your house stories". I know we all have them.

I have a friend that spends money and is always in debt. I have tried my best to help her with her storage as she feels compelled to get hers and yet willfully ignores her promptings more often than not. She is always using the "i'll just come to your house "mantra. My favorite was when I found a deal on toilet paper. You bought it online and it was shipped to the store for free and all she had to do was pick it up (12 packs of Scotts or Charmin for $2.50 a package and you had to buy 9 to get it for that price). Apparently this was too much work and her response was that she would just come to my house to use the bathroom when things got bad. She also always manages to have money when she wants to go out to dinner with friends or to the movies but never seems to have it for storage. It really amazes me what people will sacrifice or do to get a Playstation or an Xbox but they cant seem to do that to get prepared. Anyway would love to hear more stories.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Nan » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:34 pm

I had someone in my ward say that to me. A couple weeks later she asked me to teach her how to can meat. Last night, a year later, she called me to tell me that her husband canned 40lbs of chicken while she was at work. At the beginning he was against food storage and now he is doing it.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Juliette » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:39 pm

ndjili wrote:Katmr posted this on another thread
Just as an example about a month and a half ago a woman from our stake was invited to speak on preparedness, mainly the temporal side. My neighbor was sitting right in front of me and when the meeting was over she turned around to me and said. " you can add 6 more to your preparations.". That's how many was in her family


I'm sure all of us have heard this so many times. I thought it's be fun or maybe theraputic and entertaining to have a thread of our "I'll just come to your house stories". I know we all have them.

I have a friend that spends money and is always in debt. I have tried my best to help her with her storage as she feels compelled to get hers and yet willfully ignores her promptings more often than not. She is always using the "i'll just come to your house "mantra. My favorite was when I found a deal on toilet paper. You bought it online and it was shipped to the store for free and all she had to do was pick it up (12 packs of Scotts or Charmin for $2.50 a package and you had to buy 9 to get it for that price). Apparently this was too much work and her response was that she would just come to my house to use the bathroom when things got bad. She also always manages to have money when she wants to go out to dinner with friends or to the movies but never seems to have it for storage. It really amazes me what people will sacrifice or do to get a Playstation or an Xbox but they cant seem to do that to get prepared. Anyway would love to hear more stories.


When they say " I'll just come to your house", I always respond with, " The first thing I will share with you is our ammo". :))
Of course I'm kidding. BUT, I have worked, sacrificed and used my money, not on foolish things, but in the pursuit of being prepared.
Our family is the main concern. Why isn't it theirs. It would be nice if everyone could bring something to then table. I will share if I can, but I will not sacrifice my families needs for people who have done nothing. Is that a bad attitude?
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Original_Intent » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 pm

If anyone comes to my house, the best offer they will get is a full days labor of any able bodied family members for a day's food for their family. We made sacrifices to follow the counsel givem, and have tried to even have some extra to spare, but it iwll come at a steep price. And of course, anyone who tries to take it by force I will have no qualms about sharing ammo with them.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Juliette » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 pm

Original_Intent wrote:If anyone comes to my house, the best offer they will get is a full days labor of any able bodied family members for a day's food for their family. We made sacrifices to follow the counsel givem, and have tried to even have some extra to spare, but it iwll come at a steep price. And of course, anyone who tries to take it by force I will have no qualms about sharing ammo with them.


Thats a really good idea Original. I'm sure there will be plenty of work to do. The garden, the laundry, whatever, make them work for the food. I think they will feel better about it too. ( I would hope).

I found this on the subject:


Should I Share My Food Storage?

Food Storage and Emergency Preparedness

By Rachel Bruner, About.com Guide
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Sometimes we wonder if we should share our food storage in times of need with those who have not saved. Here's what Brother Vaughn J. Featherstone had to say about sharing our food storage:
"'Do I share with my neighbors who have not followed the counsel? And what about the nonmembers who do not have a years supply? Do we have to share with them?' No, we don't have to share—we get to share! Let us not be concerned about silly thoughts of whether we would share or not. Of course we would share! What would Jesus do? I could not possibly eat food and see my neighbors starving. And if you starve to death after sharing, 'greater love hath no man than this...' John 15:13" ("Food Storage," Ensign, May 1976, 116).
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby dlbww » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:49 pm

Juliette wrote:
Original_Intent wrote:If anyone comes to my house, the best offer they will get is a full days labor of any able bodied family members for a day's food for their family. We made sacrifices to follow the counsel givem, and have tried to even have some extra to spare, but it iwll come at a steep price. And of course, anyone who tries to take it by force I will have no qualms about sharing ammo with them.


Thats a really good idea Original. I'm sure there will be plenty of work to do. The garden, the laundry, whatever, make them work for the food. I think they will feel better about it too. ( I would hope).

I found this on the subject:


Should I Share My Food Storage?

Food Storage and Emergency Preparedness

By Rachel Bruner, About.com Guide
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Sometimes we wonder if we should share our food storage in times of need with those who have not saved. Here's what Brother Vaughn J. Featherstone had to say about sharing our food storage:
"'Do I share with my neighbors who have not followed the counsel? And what about the nonmembers who do not have a years supply? Do we have to share with them?' No, we don't have to share—we get to share! Let us not be concerned about silly thoughts of whether we would share or not. Of course we would share! What would Jesus do? I could not possibly eat food and see my neighbors starving. And if you starve to death after sharing, 'greater love hath no man than this...' John 15:13" ("Food Storage," Ensign, May 1976, 116).
Giving of ourselves is often easy during times of plenty, but giving during our own times of need is a much greater sacrifice and greater opportunity for us to have (and practice) charity for others


I think I'll do what the Spirit directs should that time ever come. If we all followed VJF's counsel nobody would have anything to share because nobody would prepare, everybody would expect somebody to have a years supply. Sounds like the story of the four LDS neighbours; Somebody, Everybody, Nobody and Anybody. It turned out that Nobody was the only faithful member; Nobody did their home teaching, Nobody paid their tithing, Nobody had their food storage, in fact Nobody did everything that was needed in the church, etc.

I see his point and this is good advice during a crisis/non-crisis. Should we still be sharing during a cleansing event if this is the way God has chosen to destroy the wicked?
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby paper face » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:03 am

dlbww wrote:Should we still be sharing during a cleansing event if this is the way God has chosen to destroy the wicked?


Mosiah 4:21-26 suggests that the answer is "yes". But who knows, maybe the Book of Mormon is void when the grid goes out.

Jean Valjean will be paying your home a visit, either way. He will be there to steal from you. Will you be having your Les Miserables moment? Or will you be putting a bullet into him?

Fun times ahead.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Fairminded » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:17 am

Hope you're ready for a hundred Jean Valjeans. You and your family can eat your smug sense of charity as you wait for death.

It's every man's responsibility to provide for himself and his family. If he chooses to share his excess his generosity is to be praised, but if he freely gives what he cannot spare, dooming himself and his loved ones, and this act leads to their deaths, he has committed murder and suicide.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Nephi294 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:27 am

Often at my job i talk about food storage and some of my co-workers say, "Hey dude, when crap hit's the fan I'll just come to your house." I respond by saying, "Have fun trying to locate me cause I'll be gone." Occasionally I post 2 of my favorite little cartoon clips on facebook. One is the little red hen and the other one is about the grasshopper and the ants. Both are timeless tales about work and being prepared. I still get the "I'll just come to your house" biz..... Oh well I guess. In the end I always tell people my Family comes first and if I have more to give I will gladly share.

I can't remember if one of my neighbors told me about a dream they had or if it was something I read on the world wide web..... The person I was (reading/being told about) had food storage and when the time came to share they didn't and they let people starve. When they went to use their food storage everything was bad and they couldn't use it. I really wish I could remember where I heard about this dream cause now my OCD is going to bug the crap out of me til I find the source.... :))
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Nephi294 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:27 am

Often at my job i talk about food storage and some of my co-workers say, "Hey dude, when crap hit's the fan I'll just come to your house." I respond by saying, "Have fun trying to locate me cause I'll be gone." Occasionally I post 2 of my favorite little cartoon clips on facebook. One is the little red hen and the other one is about the grasshopper and the ants. Both are timeless tales about work and being prepared. I still get the "I'll just come to your house" biz..... Oh well I guess. In the end I always tell people my Family comes first and if I have more to give I will gladly share.

I can't remember if one of my neighbors told me about a dream they had or if it was something I read on the world wide web..... The person I was (reading/being told about) had food storage and when the time came to share they didn't and they let people starve. When they went to use their food storage everything was bad and they couldn't use it. I really wish I could remember where I heard about this dream cause now my OCD is going to bug the crap out of me til I find the source.... :))
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby DrJones » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:35 am

Do you have your food storage AT your HOUSE?

Lehi left his house when commanded by the Lord -- a commandment to the head of the family, which came direct to him, not through the prophet to the people at the time (Jeremiah). He took his provisions with him. I suppose when TSHTF in Jerusalem after that, essentially no food was to be found in Lehi's house.

I suppose each of us can pray as Lehi did regarding ourselves and our stewardships/families -- should we leave the food storage in our house, or where should we take it?
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby lundbaek » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:04 am

I think y'all otta read Jack Monnett's book "When The Lights Went Out" and then try to envision a similar senario where you live.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby paper face » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:26 am

Fairminded wrote:Hope you're ready for a hundred Jean Valjeans. You and your family can eat your smug sense of charity as you wait for death.


Christ's words either matter, or your religion is for show.

And death? Christ conquered that two thousand years ago. What are you afraid of?

If he chooses to share his excess his generosity is to be praised


Oh, you think it's about praise? Maybe that's the issue.

but if he freely gives what he cannot spare, dooming himself and his loved ones, and this act leads to their deaths, he has committed murder and suicide.


This isn't the question at hand, so don't pretend. The question is about sharing when you have plenty. When I see all these posts about protecting food with guns & ammo, I don't see the face of Christ. I see fear and selfishness.

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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Original_Intent » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:56 am

The Lord doesn't fight the battles when we are under condemnation. That is a promised blessing for those who live worthily of it.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby paper face » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:09 am

Original_Intent wrote:The Lord doesn't fight the battles when we are under condemnation. That is a promised blessing for those who live worthily of it.


Jesus said that if you live by the sword, you die by it. And living by the sword is precisely what we're talking about. Sleeping with your gun close by is no different than the Jaredites & Nephites sleeping on their swords. If you're ready to do that, then I hope you are prepared to accept the same fate.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Original_Intent » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:17 am

paper face wrote:
Original_Intent wrote:The Lord doesn't fight the battles when we are under condemnation. That is a promised blessing for those who live worthily of it.


Jesus said that if you live by the sword, you die by it. And living by the sword is precisely what we're talking about. Sleeping with your gun close by is no different than the Jaredites & Nephites sleeping on their swords. If you're ready to do that, then I hope you are prepared to accept the same fate.


And death? Christ conquered that two thousand years ago. What are you afraid of?

There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of in being willing and able to defend yourself, your family, etc.

Your attempt to justify someone who would take a person's property by force, and then turn around and condemn someone for preparing and being willing to defend themselves is very telling.

I'll follow the spirit and share if so directed. If not directed, I will trade their labor for my food to the extent that I can. I'll take care of my stewardship, you do the best you can with yours.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby 7cylon7 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:30 am

Juliette wrote:
Original_Intent wrote:If anyone comes to my house, the best offer they will get is a full days labor of any able bodied family members for a day's food for their family. We made sacrifices to follow the counsel givem, and have tried to even have some extra to spare, but it iwll come at a steep price. And of course, anyone who tries to take it by force I will have no qualms about sharing ammo with them.


Thats a really good idea Original. I'm sure there will be plenty of work to do. The garden, the laundry, whatever, make them work for the food. I think they will feel better about it too. ( I would hope).

I found this on the subject:


Should I Share My Food Storage?

Food Storage and Emergency Preparedness

By Rachel Bruner, About.com Guide
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Sometimes we wonder if we should share our food storage in times of need with those who have not saved. Here's what Brother Vaughn J. Featherstone had to say about sharing our food storage:
"'Do I share with my neighbors who have not followed the counsel? And what about the nonmembers who do not have a years supply? Do we have to share with them?' No, we don't have to share—we get to share! Let us not be concerned about silly thoughts of whether we would share or not. Of course we would share! What would Jesus do? I could not possibly eat food and see my neighbors starving. And if you starve to death after sharing, 'greater love hath no man than this...' John 15:13" ("Food Storage," Ensign, May 1976, 116).
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I love Featherstone but Brother Featherstone I have a question for you to answer. I only have food for 2 people for 1 year. If I share my food with the foolish then I will not have enough food for myself. I think Brother Featherstone you need to re-read the parable of the 10 virgins again. What did the WISE virgins tell the foolish ones? The foolish ones came begging for oil (FOOD). The wise virgins said what? NOT SO!!! How can you misinterpret this? Brother Featherstone could not be more wrong on this matter. Then, now what this. Many people don't read the parable all the way to the end. The foolish virgins came later to the door and knocked to be let into the marriage but the SAVIOR him self answers and tells them he never knew them and SHUTS them OUT!!

Don't change the story or lesson just because you don't feel that it is not politically right? What would Jesus do? I think Jesus was shut the door on them and tell them he never knew them. Jesus never destroyed a whole city because of wickedness? Jesus never let the foolish die? Read your bibles people.

Those are the hard facts and we will face them very soon. I don't have extra to share with anyone. And if I did share it then I would put my own life in jeopardy and my families lives in jeopardy.

So in short I will not be sharing any food unless I have a promise from the lords anointed that in doing so my family and I will not perish for want of food. Only a proclamation or promise like that will do. Yes, we could share our food and die with them but is that really what Jesus would do?
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby DrJones » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:34 am

I have come to the prayerful decision to -- provide provisions for whomever the LORD sends to me to provide for. Others will probably not know where to find me.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby kathyn » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:39 am

I have the faith that if I need to share food, the Lord will stretch my reserves. (Think of the widow who shared with Elijah the prophet...she fed him when it was her very last meal...now that's faith.) I submit that this might be a great test for the Saints.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Original_Intent » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:50 am

DrJones wrote:I have come to the prayerful decision to -- provide provisions for whomever the LORD sends to me to provide for. Others will probably not know where to find me.


Exactly how I feel. I probably will not be at my house, and I probably won't be able to take everything with my to my place of retreat. The bandidos are welcome to anything I leave behind...
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby PunaGabe » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:51 am

Good topic! This is the same problem in our ward.Come to my house and try to use force you will be dead in my driveway and I will feed you to my dogs.I just gave a talk 3 weeks ago on being prepared and only 5% of the members in our stake are prepared and Im one of the 5%.People need to wake up. For the last 50 years prophets have told us to be prepared temporally and spiritually .One of my friends was like "if they come to my house with force I will just live it up to the lord ".I was like, I will ask the lord for help but moroni didn't lay down a let his food get stolen or his wife raped and or kids kidnapped.Im sure the Lord is going to be like" lock and load son" ! Imagine when the government cuts all the welfare, the U.S. will look like one giant L.A. riots. ;)
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby uglypitbull » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:58 am

"When people are able but unwilling to take care of themselves we are responsible to employ the dictum of the Lord that the idler shall not eat the bread of the laborer". - Boyd K Packer
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Original_Intent » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:08 pm

And again we see the great division - some feel that you not only should share but will be blessed to share, and if that results in your death - happy day! all is well! and on the other hand we have others who might be willing to share, but heaven help anyone who is unwilling to work or feels they can take by force...and some that have prepared for their own needs only and have already determined not to share...

We in the church are as divided as our nation...I really liked Dr. Jones thought, that he would share with whoever the Lord sent his way...but it isn't going to be at his house...and kind of implied is that anyone that finds him would NEED directions from the Lord to get there - lol that was my interpretation anyway.

I'm running low on spiritual "oil in my lamp" I wonder if I share my temporal oil if they will share their spiritual....wait! if they had spiritual oil they would be DOING AS THE PROPHET HAS INSTRUCTED, which is to prepare EVERY needful thing.

And I realize that there are a FEW out there that literally cannot prepare or have already used their storage due to personal hardship - but the fact is if people REALLY believed that troubles were coming, MOST would find a way to get their storage, and the fact is that most do not take the warnings seriously, most that have nothing or little have only themselves to blame.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby SmallFarm » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:19 pm

When my neighbors are hungry and begging at my door:
I will share with them.
When my neighbors are so desperate that they steal my vegetables at night:
I will wait up late so I can tell them they don't need to steal from me.
When roving gangs are pillaging the countryside:
I will hide my family but bring forth my goods to "make friends with the mammon of unrighteousness".
When I've tried everything out and my family is hungry:
Only then will I use violence to protect my food.

The only people that will survive the cleansing are those who are willing to forgive their neighbors and share, even with those who are not as prepared, even with those who are still learning to be provident.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby PunaGabe » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:27 pm

When people are starving they don't think right . There will be a lot of use of "force" are you you guys ready for that? Like prophecy says mothers will be drinking daughters blood . Violence and Chaos everywhere.Our stake says take care of your neighbors right near you and the families you home teach.I would go hungry to give away a meal but my 6 kids are NOT going hungry. When it comes to my kids those that THINK they're going to use force are going to wish they never had.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Juliette » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:48 pm

PunaGabe wrote:When people are starving they don't think right . There will be a lot of use of "force" are you you guys ready for that? Like prophecy says mothers will be drinking daughters blood . Violence and Chaos everywhere.Our stake says take care of your neighbors right near you and the families you home teach.I would go hungry to give away a meal but my 6 kids are NOT going hungry. When it comes to my kids those that THINK they're going to use force are going to wish they never had.


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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Still Learning » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:21 pm

It is interesting that there are such differing opinions on this subject. I try not to worry much about it and know that there are many family members that are not prepared. For that reason I have prepared extra. We probably have 2-3 years of food...although that will change with growing little boys. I think the differing of opinions isn't so much how we would act in the situation, but what our perceptions are of what the situation will be. From talking to many people on this topic, some seem to think everything will be similar to how it is now with regards to the public sentiment - people without jobs, but overall things remain peaceful. You have a neighbor tell you his family is hungry, so you help them. Others imagine great chaos and rioting in the streets. Who here on this forum wouldn't pull the trigger if you wake up in the middle of the night to find thieves with weapons in your home stealing your provisions? I would. I would fear they would harm my children or wife and would have no hesitation protecting them...and our provisions. Now, if you have a family member that comes to you in peace and in need, who wouldn't help that person out, even though they had not done their part and heeding the prophetic warnings? I would, again without hesitation. So, for me it is all about the situation. I will give what I can and follow the spirit and I pray that I will never have to use force to protect myself, however, I believe that all things, including firearms, can and should be put to use in the right situations. I pray that I will be worthy of the spirit to know when that time comes. I believe that I will know what to do, just as the spirit has indicated to me that I should prepare, so will it indicate to me how to respond to a situation that will affect my safety and life. I don't discount that God can provide manna to us, but I think he is doing that now. My business has struggled in recent years, just 2 years ago I had no food storage. But strong promptings lead me to get prepared and I found a way to do so. For me, God has already provided my manna. I must now remain worthy of the spirit so that I will know what the Lord intends that I do with it.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby Original_Intent » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:26 pm

Still Learning wrote:It is interesting that there are such differing opinions on this subject. I try not to worry much about it and know that there are many family members that are not prepared. For that reason I have prepared extra. We probably have 2-3 years of food...although that will change with growing little boys. I think the differing of opinions isn't so much how we would act in the situation, but what our perceptions are of what the situation will be. From talking to many people on this topic, some seem to think everything will be similar to how it is now with regards to the public sentiment - people without jobs, but overall things remain peaceful. You have a neighbor tell you his family is hungry, so you help them. Others imagine great chaos and rioting in the streets. Who here on this forum wouldn't pull the trigger if you wake up in the middle of the night to find thieves with weapons in your home stealing your provisions? I would. I would fear they would harm my children or wife and would have no hesitation protecting them...and our provisions. Now, if you have a family member that comes to you in peace and in need, who wouldn't help that person out, even though they had not done their part and heeding the prophetic warnings? I would, again without hesitation. So, for me it is all about the situation. I will give what I can and follow the spirit and I pray that I will never have to use force to protect myself, however, I believe that all things, including firearms, can and should be put to use in the right situations. I pray that I will be worthy of the spirit to know when that time comes. I believe that I will know what to do, just as the spirit has indicated to me that I should prepare, so will it indicate to me how to respond to a situation that will affect my safety and life. I don't discount that God can provide manna to us, but I think he is doing that now. My business has struggled in recent years, just 2 years ago I had no food storage. But strong promptings lead me to get prepared and I found a way to do so. For me, God has already provided my manna. I must now remain worthy of the spirit so that I will know what the Lord intends that I do with it.


Balanced and wise statement in my opinion. What you said about it depending on the situation is dead on. I highly doubt we are going to be living in a Mad Max world.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby AGStacker » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:27 pm

PunaGabe - You sparked some thoughts in my head.

I remembered this:

25 And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ass’s head was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of dove’s dung for five pieces of silver.

26 And as the king of Israel was passing by upon the wall, there cried a woman unto him, saying, Help, my lord, O king.

27 And he said, If the Lord do not help thee, whence shall I help thee? out of the barnfloor, or out of the winepress?

28 And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow.

29 So we boiled my son, and did aeat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.

30 ¶And it came to pass, when the king heard the words of the woman, that he arent his clothes; and he passed by upon the wall, and the people looked, and, behold, he had sackcloth within upon his flesh.

and also this:

15 And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us abread: for why should we die in thy presence? for the money faileth.

16 And Joseph said, Give your cattle; and I will give you for your cattle, if money fail.

17 And they brought their cattle unto Joseph: and Joseph gave them bread in exchange for horses, and for the flocks, and for the cattle of the herds, and for the asses: and he fed them with bread for all their cattle for that year.

18 When that year was ended, they came unto him the second year, and said unto him, We will not hide it from my lord, how that our money is spent; my lord also hath our herds of cattle; there is not ought left in the sight of my lord, but our bodies, and our lands:

19 Wherefore shall we die before thine eyes, both we and our land? buy us and our land for bread, and we and our land will be servants unto Pharaoh: and give us seed, that we may live, and not die, that the land be not desolate.

20 And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine prevailed over them: so the land became Pharaoh’s.

I also wanted to add that teaching/warning our neighbor and doing home teaching is important because the more prepared people around us the better. Think of how much peace a family could have if all of the neighborhood had food.

Also, I can't understand why people don't care to research what caused the depression of 2008? It boggles my mind. They just go along their day trusting their government. Many people were only affected because their home price dropped but many of them hold the same jobs. I think this would deter them from worrying.

What will you guys do if your family, siblings and parents, aren't prepared?

I know that a currency crisis is at the door with one foot in. I am grateful for people like Ron Paul ;) who predicted the housing bubble precisely and continues to warn us of the impending doom.
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Re: "I'll just come to your house"

Postby lundbaek » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:36 pm

I think of our neighborhood as 50 houses on our street and about 50 or more on each of the streets parallel and to the north and south of ours. We are one of three LDS families living in our neighborhood. I expect that when food, etc. runs out the word will spread as to where the Mormons live. A Molotov cocktail on our roof from behind our fence would quickly make our provisions available to others. I don't recall that the marauders of Pine Bluff thought of that.
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