The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:00 pm

Rob wrote:
Jason wrote:http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/protecservices.com

Brent L. Blanchard currently serves as Operations Manager for Protec Documentation Services Inc., Rancocas Woods, New Jersey. The firm performs vibration consulting, structural survey and photographic work for contractors throughout the United States and abroad.

In addition, Mr. Blanchard is a senior writer for implosionworld.com, a website that publishes news and information related to the explosive demolition industry. His team's work is also regularly published in various periodicals such as The Journal of Explosives Engineering (ISEE-USA), Explosives Engineering (IEE-UK), Demolition Magazine, Demolition & Recycling International, Constructioneer and Construction News.

Over the past 24 years, Mr. Blanchard's photographic images depicting demolition projects have won numerous national and international awards, and collections of his team's work have been showcased in The Philadelphia Museum of Art and The Franklin Institute Science Museum, among other prestigious venues. He has also appeared on internationally broadcast television documentaries such as Demolition Day (CBS News), Demolition (NBC/Dateline), Blastmasters (The Learning Channel) and The Art & Science of Blasting (Discovery Channel) as an authority on the explosive demolition industry.

http://www.implosionworld.com/history4.htm

...oh look....Brent is also the main contact for Protec Documentation Services. So who is Brent Blanchard??? A photographer? a writer? a senior editor? a website owner/manager? demolitions documentations team manager? Director of Operations?

According to the state of New Jersey Brent Blanchard is the registered owner of

ACTION ENTERTAINMENT
PROTEC
IMPLOSIONWORLD.COM
BLB PARTNERS

...all registered at

199 KNOTTY OAK DRIVE
RANCOCAS WOODS/MT LAUREL/MOUNT LAUREL

...which happens to be this house

http://maps.google.com/maps?pq=new+jers ... CB4Q8gEwAA

....screams spookville to me.....

Reply to Protec's
A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE COLLAPSE OF WTC TOWERS 1, 2 & 7 FROM AN EXPLOSIVES AND CONVENTIONAL DEMOLITION INDUSTRY VIEWPOINT
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/bla ... index.html
Great stuff, Jason. :ymcowboy:



Now you might think to yourself....why wouldn't Brent publicly disclose that he's the owner of Protec....rather than just a peon???? Wouldn't that enhance his credibility?

or Implosion World.com???

What are the other two businesses???

And why does he drop off the face of the internet pre 1998??? Which ironically is when Protec business was filed (despite claiming to operate from 1983 onward of which no history exists - that I've been able to find). So who is Brent Blanchard and what is his education, background/training (photography, writing, military???), and other business involvements, etc etc etc????

Why would Bluemoon5 lie about it??? Buried too deeply into his paradigm....or is it something deeper???
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:04 pm

natasha wrote:You know guys...I have become completely disallusioned with some people here who "claim" to be LDS. I know it doesn't make any difference to some of you to know that I know Bluemoon personally and he is NONE of the names you have called him. He is certainly not an idiot...and more importantly, he is not a liar. Just because someone disagrees with you does not make him/her either of those adjectives! In fact, when people engage in that sort of dialogue, it usually tells me more about the deliverer of those words than the person they are meant for. Now, before someone comes back at me and says that Blue has gotten "snarky", too...if you go back to the beginnings of this thread, it was Blue who was attacked first and it has deteriorated down to today...with many times Blue trying to change the dialogue. My experience in the past few years with "truthers" ( I know you hate that!) is that they have no room for anyone else's perspective and you seem to always revert to calling everyone else "liars and idiots". I have also noted other posters here who have gotten banned for much less....or had replies deleted, etc., also for much less....which leads to a little confusion regarding the rules.

I think it's time for everyone to realize and accept the fact that after much research, others have come to different conclusions....making neither liars or idiots. For myself, I am perfectly happy and content with my conclusions and am happy to let you have your conclusions. They differ...and it doesn't make any of us who differ from the many of you on this forum, evil or lacking in intelligence...nor do we have the need for anyone to "testify against us" in the hereafter. Personally, I think that I am going to spend a great deal more time on the four fold mission of the Church...hoping beyond hope that many more people can be brought to the truth of the Gospel. In the front of the Family History manual it states that the number one objective of the Church is to spread the Gospel. I think that some of the discussions on this forum do not do that.


Earth to Natasha....he is a liar....that's documented. End of story.

fyi - I'm pretty sure you could easily document that I'm a liar as well considering the number of times I've said I'm out of here....yet keep coming back. fwiw....
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:26 pm

JulesGP wrote:Hi All, due to continued contention on this thread, a couple more people have been warned, and one is no longer a member of our forum. PLEASE allow this to be a grown-up conversation :D

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:30 pm

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JulesGP wrote:Hi All, due to continued contention on this thread, a couple more people have been warned, and one is no longer a member of our forum. PLEASE allow this to be a grown-up conversation :D

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Jules, you rock, and judging by your avatar are growing younger every day! (I hope you did not ban BM5, he is the main fuel for our triumph!)


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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby moonwhim » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:35 pm

I just posted this in it's own thread because I didn't realize this one was open, so I decided to post it here too.

A New 9/11 Investigation – Coming to a Theater Near You?
Hollywood Stars Seek to Make Feature Film Focused on WTC Demolitions

Howard Cohen
AE911Truth.org
January 23, 2012

“A Violation of Trust” (formerly titled “Confession of a 9/11 Conspirator”) is a feature film project that is willing to do what the world’s governments and legal bodies are unwilling to do – open a real investigation of 9/11 for the entire world to see. It dramatizes the first day of “The President’s New Investigation of 9/11”, with actors performing from a tightly-written, factually-accurate script that pits the 9/11 Commission Report and the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Reports against the work of 9/11 researcher Dr. David Ray Griffin and the scientific research highlighted by leading 9/11 truth organizations, including Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

The filming of “A Violation of Trust” will be performed on a single set, depicting the investigation’s public hearing room. The single-set approach provides the most intense platform for the actors and the script to involve the audience. The film’s compelling drama, forceful images and real-time video clips will be woven into its often contentious question-and-answer dialogue to create opportunities for conflicting views that will be argued both passionately and in a scientific and logical manner.

The list of actors that have signed on to this film includes:
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A dozen additional actors will be added to the ensemble cast.

The production schedule for “A Violation of Trust” is as follows:

Pre-Production: NOW

Principal Photography: 10 days beginning March 22, 2012

Post-Production: 6 weeks

Cannes “Marche du Film” Premiere: May 16, 2012

Release Date: September 11, 2012

For those calling for a new 9/11 investigation, the release of “A Violation of Trust” will be a focusing event. It is a front-row seat in what would be the most critical hearing room of our time. For those unfamiliar with the details of the official government reports published by the 9/11 Commission and NIST, or those who sweepingly dismiss all the anomalies and inconsistencies in the official story as mere naturally occurring coincidence, the movie can act as a catalyst for further personal investigation. It will provide an invaluable resource to more fully understand the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent government cover-up:

• The state of affairs and events the movie alludes to have a basis in historical reality.

• The scientific evidence and testimonies make vital factual claims based upon sound research that are crucial to the persuasive power of the film – and emphasize its role as a mirror to reality.

• The filmmakers hope to stimulate discussion and generate demand for a real investigation by bringing a neglected subject out of the shadows – What really happened on 9/11?

“A Violation of Trust” (formerly titled “Confession of a 9/11 Conspirator”), is being produced under the auspices of Actors & Artists for 9/11 Truth. Please visit the project website and consider donating to support the production and marketing of the film. Donate $25 or more and receive a FREE DVD. http://actorsandartistsfor911truth.com/confess.htm

The following is an excerpt from the script of “A Violation of Trust” in which the character of Richard Gage, AIA, testifies at the hearing.
Fictional characters in this excerpt:

JUDGE ALAN EISNER is a former Federal judge and confidante of the President who is serving as Chairman of the investigation.

PROFESSOR RUTH FOWLER is Chief of Research at the White House.

DR. ELLA SLOAN is the President’s Science Advisor.

MRS. KATHY SAWYER is a representative of family members of the 9/11 victims.

DR. SINGER is an assistant to Dr. Shyam Sunder, lead investigator for NIST in the 9/11 reports.

MRS. SAWYER: Excuse me Mr. Chairman, but we have a big problem with Dr. Singer’s testimony.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Which part of it?

MRS. SAWYER: All of it.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: What do your experts say?

MRS. SAWYER: Let me introduce Mr. Richard Gage, AIA, a member of the American Institute of Architects and founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Mr. Gage, what sparked your interest in 9/11?

MR. GAGE: In 2006, I caught an interview with Dr. David Ray Griffin that changed my life. He was describing the oral histories from dozens of New York City firefighters that had recently been released due to a court order.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Then what happened?

MR. GAGE: I started watching videos on the Internet of the buildings collapsing, looking for signs of explosives. You can actually see them going off, all around the buildings, just like the firefighters said.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: You’re saying the evidence for explosives has always been there right in front of our eyes?

MR. GAGE: Everyone saw the Twin Towers brought down in a way that could only have been caused by explosives. We were just told differently by the government and the media – and then further deceived by the 9/11 Commission and NIST.

DR. SLOAN: What would the explosives have been used for?

MR. GAGE: To remove the steel columns so they didn’t offer any resistance to the floors falling from above. That’s why the buildings came down at nearly free-fall acceleration.

DR. SLOAN: By free-fall do you mean as fast as if you dropped a bowling ball from the roof and it fell down to the ground without any resistance?

MR. GAGE: It’s basic physics – the same laws of physics Isaac Newton discovered over 300 years ago.

DR. SLOAN: So if NIST’s fire theory violates these laws then it must be wrong?

MR. GAGE: Not even George W. Bush could have written a signing statement that can invalidate the laws of physics.

DR. SLOAN: However, on the other hand, I believe you’re saying the theory that the Towers were brought down by explosives in a controlled demolition does not violate these laws?

MR. GAGE: That’s right. Something that can’t be explained in terms of the official story or the laws of physics is fully understandable when you consider explosives.

DR. SLOAN: Could there be any other explanation?

MR. GAGE: Without explosives there’s no way two identical 110 story buildings could collapse in about a dozen seconds each.

DR. SLOAN: So the fires and the crashes didn’t cause them to collapse?

MR. GAGE: Look at the building in this video. It shows 10 characteristic features of controlled demolition. Professor Fowler, please show that video.

VIDEO OF CONTROLLED DEMOLITION FEATURES.

MR. GAGE: The probability any of these features would occur without explosives is extremely low. The probability all of them would occur is virtually impossible.

MRS. SAWYER: Whoever planted those explosives knew the planes would be hijacked and flown into the buildings that morning and that the military wouldn’t shoot them down. They waited for that to happen and then they blew them up.

DR. SLOAN: If there were no planes would the towers have been blown up anyway?

MRS. SAWYER: Probably not – the idea was to be able to claim they collapsed because they were hit by the planes. Whoever planted the explosives needed the planes so al-Qaeda could be blamed.

DR. SLOAN: But how did they know al-Qaeda would fly planes into the Towers that morning?

MRS. SAWYER: I don’t know.

DR. SLOAN: But you say they knew in advance the planes were going to crash on 9/11?

MRS. SAWYER: They had to.

DR. SLOAN: And you’re saying they weren’t al-Qaeda?

MRS. SAWYER: I’m saying al-Qaeda couldn’t have done it – at least not alone. Find out who helped them and you’ll know how and why.

MR. GAGE: Take a look at this video of Building 7.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: I’m sorry, building what?

MR. GAGE: Building 7. It was never mentioned in the 9/11 report and many people, like yourself obviously, have never known about it.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Please continue.

MR. GAGE: Could we see the video, please?

VIDEO OF BUILDING 7 BEING DEMOLISHED. IMAGE ON THE SCREEN CHANGES TO A SPLIT SCREEN IMAGE. ONE IMAGE IS WTC BUILDING 7 WHILE THE OTHER IS A HIGH RISE BUILDING BEING DEMOLISHED.

MR.GAGE: Building 7 came down at 5:21 PM – 7 hours after the Twin Towers. As you can see this is a comparison to another high-rise that was being demolished by explosives.

MR.GAGE: Play it again please – in slow motion.

VIDEO PLAYS AGAIN.

MR. GAGE: As an architect, I’m trained to watch things in an analytical fashion. Always thinking, ‘how does this happen’ and ‘what makes that happen’.

DR. SLOAN: And what happened to Building 7?

MR. GAGE: It was a controlled demolition, the same as the other one.

PROFESSOR FOWLER: Mr. Chairman, the NIST report admitted Building 7 remained in free-fall for more than 2 seconds.

MR. GAGE: Fires don’t make that happen. Explosives do. NIST’s admission about the 2 seconds of free-fall is the clearest proof that explosives were used to remove the columns.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: They acknowledged the free-fall, but did they explain it?

MR. GAGE: No, their report isn’t scientific, it can’t be true.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Dr. Singer, do you agree Building 7′s collapse looks like the other one, the controlled demolition one?

DR. SINGER: In science we have lots of phenomena that look similar and yet have completely different causes.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Do you agree it could be a controlled demolition?

DR. SINGER: Hypothetically, lots of things are possible. But I’m confident it wasn’t.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Why are you so confident?

DR. SINGER: Our investigation proves that when the North Tower collapsed at 10:28 in the morning some of its debris hit Building 7 and caused fires that burned all day until it collapsed seven hours later.

DR. SLOAN: But physicists, architects, engineers and demolition experts from all over the world told you it was probably controlled demolition. Shouldn’t that have made it your priority?

DR. SINGER: I understand why people may think that, but when we learned the facts about the way the building was built, the way it supported itself and the damage that was done when the North Tower collapsed that morning – we determined it wasn’t explosives.

MR. GAGE: Are you saying explosives are outside the range of possibilities even though the possibility of explosives being used is consistent with the evidence?

DR. SINGER: NIST found no corroborating evidence suggesting the building was brought down by controlled demolition using explosives planted prior to 9/11. Our fire hypothesis is the only credible one.

MR. GAGE: But no steel-framed high-rise building anywhere in the world has ever collapsed because of fire. Mrs. Fowler, please show those buildings on fire.

IMAGES ON SCREEN OF STEEL-FRAMED HIGH-RISE BUILDING FIRES.

MR. GAGE: Look at these buildings. They burned much worse, for much longer, and didn’t collapse. Dr. Singer’s explanation of why Building 7 came down is simply impossible.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: In what way?

MR. GAGE: Their final report issued in 2008 claims there were very big, very hot fires covering much of the 12th floor at 5 PM – only 21 minutes before the building collapsed. These fires are essential to NIST’s explanation as to why Building 7 collapsed.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Is that true?

DR. SINGER: Yes.

MR. GAGE: But your interim report issued in 2004 says the 12th floor fire had completely burned out by 4:45 – 35 minutes earlier.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Why did NIST contradict its own report?

DR. SINGER: That’s what we thought in 2004. By 2008 we realized we had been wrong.

MR. GAGE: Professor Fowler, please show those photos I gave you earlier. The images on the screen are photos of Building 7. The 12th floor of the building is highlighted. Dr. Singer, you had this photo in your 2004 report with a note attached that said the 12th floor fires were completely burned out by 4:45. Professor Fowler, if you would please. The image on the video screen depicts Building 7 smoldering with a small fire in the northeast corner.

And this photograph shows the fire in that location was completely burned out by 4:00 PM, except for the northwest corner.

Those are outright contradictions of your official story, Dr. Singer. And they’re no trivial matter. Your theory hinges on a fire that your own photographs show didn’t even exist an hour before the collapse at 5:20 PM.

DR. SINGER: I don’t remember these photos.

DR. SLOAN: I find it hard to believe Building 7 collapsed in a manner that looks exactly like a controlled demolition due to a fire that didn’t exist. If it came down as you claim from ordinary office fires, not explosives, I would expect to see buckling.

MR. GAGE: Professor Fowler, please play those computer simulations. (Various CGI COMPUTER SIMULATIONS are shown next to videos of Building 7 collapsing).

MR. GAGE: Take a look at these NIST simulations. They have the building buckling from the fires like you said. But the videos show the roof and the walls are coming straight down. These simulations are reason enough to question the report.

DR. SLOAN: Let’s be honest Dr. Singer, you could hardly publish a report that contradicted the official story. A report that said anything about explosives would mean that al-Qaeda couldn’t have done it.

DR. SINGER: That’s not true.

DR. SLOAN: That’s why you had to say office fires did it, even though it meant suggesting scientifically incredible ideas and completely ignoring the facts.

DR. SINGER: No.

DR. SLOAN: Trying to convince us that no evidence of explosives had been found.

DR. SINGER: No.

DR. SLOAN: And that ordinary office fires had caused the building to collapse.

DR. SINGER: Our conclusion is the only one that makes sense. There was no controlled demolition, no evidence of explosives.

DR. SLOAN: Did you test the steel or the dust for signs of explosives?

DR. SINGER: There was no need to do any tests. Our reports explain how the buildings came down without them.

MRS. SAWYER: Mr. Chairman, these tests are specified in the National Fire Protection Association’s Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: Then why didn’t NIST do any tests?

DR. SINGER: Let me point out that these are just guidelines published in that book. They are not rules or regulations or laws of any kind.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: But don’t you think for NIST, as the government’s official laboratory for fire inspection, the sensible thing to do would have been to follow the guideline and do a simple lab test?

DR. SINGER: No, because there was no evidence of explosives.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: How can you know there’s no evidence if you didn’t test for it?

DR. SINGER: If you’re looking for something that isn’t there, you’re wasting your time – and the taxpayers’ money.

MR. GAGE: But not testing for explosives is like a homicide investigation not looking at the body that’s lying on the ground after the murder – or trying to find the bullets. Evidence of explosions that occurred during the collapse can only be found by examining the physical scene after the collapse.

CHAIRMAN EISNER: I don’t think doing some simple tests is wasting your time or the taxpayer’s money when three of the biggest buildings in the world collapsed in just seconds killing thousands of people.

MRS. SAWYER: It’s very difficult to find what you’re not looking for.

Howard Cohen, a native of Brooklyn, New York, is the Executive Producer of “A Violation of Trust”. A lifelong entrepreneur, Cohen successfully ran several publishing businesses that produced a variety of educational materials, including the monthly family money management newspaper supplement “Common Cents” that appeared in over 100 newspapers nationally, and the consumer magazine “Better Times” that was sold in supermarkets and other outlets. He has also worked as a consultant with former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson, whose wife, Valerie Plame, was outed by the Bush Administration as a covert CIA operative. “A Violation of Trust” is Cohen’s inaugural feature film.

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:37 pm

Nice work, moonwhim! Thanks :)
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby truefreedom » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:35 pm

There was no water to fight the fires in wtc7 ???

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9/11 Firefighter Boats Pump Water From the Hudson As WTC 7 Burns At Noon

About 11,000 gallons per minute,using a series of relay pumps.

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby natasha » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:45 am

JulesGP wrote:Hi All, due to continued contention on this thread, a couple more people have been warned, and one is no longer a member of our forum. PLEASE allow this to be a grown-up conversation :D

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And just to be sure everyone knows...the one who is no longer a member of the forum did it by CHOICE...he was NOT banned. However, having read the PM he received, if anyone ever places those bounderies on me, I, too, would leave by choice.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:47 am

natasha wrote:
JulesGP wrote:Hi All, due to continued contention on this thread, a couple more people have been warned, and one is no longer a member of our forum. PLEASE allow this to be a grown-up conversation :D

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And just to be sure everyone knows...the one who is no longer a member of the forum did it by CHOICE...he was NOT banned. However, having read the PM he received, if anyone ever places those bounderies on me, I, too, would leave by choice.
Aaa, shucks! Why did it have to be BM5?! His trolling and distortions were the main fuel to the growth of this thread! We had such a good time wiping the floor with his illogical, irrational, perverse and loony conspiracy theories! Please bring that troll back! We need him to expose the truth some more! BM5, if you are reading this, come back and troll some more! Pleeeease! Moderators! Please remove the restrictions from BM5! Pleeease let him troll more! We were doing so well! I think the score was 1000 for 9-11 truth, and 0 for 9-11 liars. Aaa, shucks! Come on BM5 ;)
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby natasha » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:56 pm

I don't think so, LIT....it is you who have been deceived. Blue is one of the finest LDS men I have ever met. I hope he never comes back because he did not deserve the attacks he received here. Actually, none of us deserve those kinds of attacks...those of us who simply disagree with you. You guys need to get over yourselves!
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:27 pm

natasha wrote:Blue is one of the finest LDS men I have ever met.
You are either profoundly naive, or haven't met too many LDS men. Since latter is impossible, it must be the former. Blue, in his own words, is "an industrial strength liar."
natasha wrote:Actually, none of us deserve those kinds of attacks...those of us who simply disagree with you.
I have never attacked you, outside of calling you naive. But I called him what he actually is.

natasha wrote:You guys need to get over yourselves!
You cannot get over the truth.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:43 pm

7cylon7 wrote:
Wow! Good one, 7! Good job!
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby 7cylon7 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:16 pm

Fire does not cause buildings made of steel to collapse.



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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:52 pm

7cylon7 wrote:Fire does not cause buildings made of steel to collapse.

Yes it can - I learned back in high school that Arab terrorists from Saudi Arabia have super-powers to suspend universal laws of physics when our 'government' tells a story - didn't you learn that too?
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:56 pm

natasha wrote:I don't think so, LIT....it is you who have been deceived. Blue is one of the finest LDS men I have ever met. I hope he never comes back because he did not deserve the attacks he received here. Actually, none of us deserve those kinds of attacks...those of us who simply disagree with you. You guys need to get over yourselves!

Thought this thread was still locked, came back when I noticed a recent post and discover that BM5 has left the building. I guess it's harder for some to accept truth than others. I can imagine if he was new to 9/11 truth, the information he was being exposed to could be quite disturbing to the point of outright rejection in the face of concrete evidence and proof. :(

L.I.T. - I know Natasha and if she says BM5 is one of the finest men she'd ever met than I believe her - he was just having trouble wrapping his mind around a truth so shocking that he could not accept it at face value and was doing all he could to keep a belief system in tact. He is not a liar - just in need of the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:24 pm

7cylon7 wrote:Fire does not cause buildings made of steel to collapse.



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Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Col. Flagg wrote:L.I.T. - I know Natasha and if she says BM5 is one of the finest men she'd ever met than I believe her - he was just having trouble wrapping his mind around a truth so shocking that he could not accept it at face value and was doing all he could to keep a belief system in tact. He is not a liar - just in need of the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction.
Natasha's discernment powers are not top of the heap, as demonstrated by her irrational position regarding 9-11 in the face of irrefutable evidence. So it shouldn't surprise you that she would esteem an "industrial strength liar" (in his own words) as the finest LDS man she ever met. It all adds up and makes perfect sense,-- she is naive, and her judgment is flawed on both accounts, (though hopefully sincere).


Whatever the case, truth speaks for itself with a voice of thunder. All the fools, the liars, and the blind will be forced to accept it sooner or later. Truth is like that; it's like fighting an ocean, or the law of gravity, or better, it's like fighting multiplication table, i.e. you can't win against it, just like you cannot win against God!
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Rob » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:13 pm

LoveIsTruth wrote:
7cylon7 wrote:Fire does not cause buildings made of steel to collapse.



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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby natasha » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:08 pm

Col. Flagg wrote:
natasha wrote:I don't think so, LIT....it is you who have been deceived. Blue is one of the finest LDS men I have ever met. I hope he never comes back because he did not deserve the attacks he received here. Actually, none of us deserve those kinds of attacks...those of us who simply disagree with you. You guys need to get over yourselves!

Thought this thread was still locked, came back when I noticed a recent post and discover that BM5 has left the building. I guess it's harder for some to accept truth than others. I can imagine if he was new to 9/11 truth, the information he was being exposed to could be quite disturbing to the point of outright rejection in the face of concrete evidence and proof. :(

L.I.T. - I know Natasha and if she says BM5 is one of the finest men she'd ever met than I believe her - he was just having trouble wrapping his mind around a truth so shocking that he could not accept it at face value and was doing all he could to keep a belief system in tact. He is not a liar - just in need of the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction.


Col: I appreciate your coming to my "defense"...but please don't do it at the expense of giving a back-handed slap at Blue. He was having no trouble wrapping his mind around the truth. How would you know that? He's a fine man....period! You know it's just like I think you are a good person, Col, but I don't resort to calling you a liar or even try to psychoanalyze why you come to some conclusions. No one should do that to Blue, either...or me....or anyone else who posts here.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Rob » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:21 pm

natasha wrote:
Col. Flagg wrote:
natasha wrote:I don't think so, LIT....it is you who have been deceived. Blue is one of the finest LDS men I have ever met. I hope he never comes back because he did not deserve the attacks he received here. Actually, none of us deserve those kinds of attacks...those of us who simply disagree with you. You guys need to get over yourselves!

Thought this thread was still locked, came back when I noticed a recent post and discover that BM5 has left the building. I guess it's harder for some to accept truth than others. I can imagine if he was new to 9/11 truth, the information he was being exposed to could be quite disturbing to the point of outright rejection in the face of concrete evidence and proof. :(

L.I.T. - I know Natasha and if she says BM5 is one of the finest men she'd ever met than I believe her - he was just having trouble wrapping his mind around a truth so shocking that he could not accept it at face value and was doing all he could to keep a belief system in tact. He is not a liar - just in need of the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction.


Col: I appreciate your coming to my "defense"...but please don't do it at the expense of giving a back-handed slap at Blue. He was having no trouble wrapping his mind around the truth. How would you know that?
What other logical explanation could there be? The towers were brought down by controlled demolition. That's the truth. If you would care to disprove that, please, by all means, that's what this thread is about.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby natasha » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:39 pm

No way, Rob...I have researched for 3 or 4 years now and have come to a different conclusion. I have seen what happens here to people and have no inclination to go down that path. Please just accept the fact that there are those who disagree with you and it might have nothing to do with the reasons YOU attach to their conclusions.
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Postby 7cylon7 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:50 pm

natasha wrote:No way, Rob...I have researched for 3 or 4 years now and have come to a different conclusion. I have seen what happens here to people and have no inclination to go down that path. Please just accept the fact that there are those who disagree with you and it might have nothing to do with the reasons YOU attach to their conclusions.



Did I miss your 3 - 4 years of research conclusions? What were they?
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:21 pm

7cylon7 wrote:
natasha wrote:No way, Rob...I have researched for 3 or 4 years now and have come to a different conclusion. I have seen what happens here to people and have no inclination to go down that path. Please just accept the fact that there are those who disagree with you and it might have nothing to do with the reasons YOU attach to their conclusions.



Did I miss your 3 - 4 years of research conclusions? What were they?


Hopefully its not the same as the fluoride claim...that when pushed on....refused to testify and back up previous statements....
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:24 pm

Col. Flagg wrote:
natasha wrote:I don't think so, LIT....it is you who have been deceived. Blue is one of the finest LDS men I have ever met. I hope he never comes back because he did not deserve the attacks he received here. Actually, none of us deserve those kinds of attacks...those of us who simply disagree with you. You guys need to get over yourselves!

Thought this thread was still locked, came back when I noticed a recent post and discover that BM5 has left the building. I guess it's harder for some to accept truth than others. I can imagine if he was new to 9/11 truth, the information he was being exposed to could be quite disturbing to the point of outright rejection in the face of concrete evidence and proof. :(

L.I.T. - I know Natasha and if she says BM5 is one of the finest men she'd ever met than I believe her - he was just having trouble wrapping his mind around a truth so shocking that he could not accept it at face value and was doing all he could to keep a belief system in tact. He is not a liar - just in need of the ability to distinguish between truth and fiction.


He lied about Brent Blanchard.

He has a fundamental belief system that is at odds with the gospel teachings as demonstrated by his multiple comments on eugenics.

And he definitely has paradigm issues....and will justify dishonesty in order to protect it.
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Postby natasha » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:59 pm

I thought you were going to stay away, Jason...but since you're back...let me tell you one final time. You are wrong about Blue...totally wrong. And was it you that originally said you would testify against him in the hereafter? You best be careful what you testify to. I don't know when I've ever met anyone as hateful as you appear...and that will probably get me banned...but, so be it.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:30 pm

natasha wrote:I thought you were going to stay away, Jason...but since you're back...let me tell you one final time. You are wrong about Blue...totally wrong. And was it you that originally said you would testify against him in the hereafter? You best be careful what you testify to. I don't know when I've ever met anyone as hateful as you appear...and that will probably get me banned...but, so be it.


LOL...why in the world would that get you banned???

I may or may not be wrong about Blue....all I'm judging by is his fruits on this forum....and the week or so I spent in his class so many years ago. So 99% is based on what he has stated on the forum...for better or worse. Maybe I read his statements the wrong way (like statements the appeared to justify eugenics)....but I don't seem to be alone in the analysis.

Do you support or justify eugenics???

As for warnings....I'm not the one running my mouth off with zero evidence. You spout off in support of him and the statements he has made....in the process demonstrating your own ignorance on the issues or topics. Not once (to my knowledge) have you provided any item of evidence other than your feelings/opinion/hearsay. The fluoride issue is a perfect example. You initially defend him but then when you realize how incredibly ignorant you have been....you backtrack and refuse to say any more about it.

As for hateful....some day when you pull off the rose colored lenses you might examine how much time and effort I've put into helping others (despite the obstinate refusals by some) in providing sheer information on health, economics, politics, etc (Blipits is a starter) asking zero in return. Its funny that you applauded me via pm sometime back when I responded to Col on another issue in the same manner that I've responded to BM5. You seem to float with whoever happens to fit within your current belief system....

So yes judge between me and thee and let the chips fall where they may....
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:10 pm

natasha wrote:Col: I appreciate your coming to my "defense"...but please don't do it at the expense of giving a back-handed slap at Blue.

I wasn't - I sincerely believe he was new to it all but was having difficulty accepting anything but the official story and so he was just going to truth-debunking websites that are designed to keep the truth covered up and regurgitating junk science that would make a junior high student laugh.

He was having no trouble wrapping his mind around the truth. How would you know that?

I don't with 100% surety - it was just my opinion.

He's a fine man....period! You know it's just like I think you are a good person, Col, but I don't resort to calling you a liar or even try to psychoanalyze why you come to some conclusions.

I've never called you or Blue a liar because you're both not - you're just in need of some truth acceptance serum.

No one should do that to Blue, either...or me....or anyone else who posts here.

Amen, however, you have to admit - he was just as harsh with some of the truthers as they were with him - that went both ways.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Rob » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:35 pm

7cylon7 wrote:
natasha wrote:No way, Rob...I have researched for 3 or 4 years now and have come to a different conclusion. I have seen what happens here to people and have no inclination to go down that path. Please just accept the fact that there are those who disagree with you and it might have nothing to do with the reasons YOU attach to their conclusions.



Did I miss your 3 - 4 years of research conclusions? What were they?
Good question, 7. :ymcowboy:

Natasha, if you don't want to debate 9/11, then why are you here? :-\
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