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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby bobhenstra » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:01 pm

DrJones wrote:PS -- I appreciate your comments jonesde and Bob H...

When my talk at the LDS Freedom Forum conference is available to you and all, what I'm saying above will make more sense.

Waiting patiently------BRENT!!! :-$

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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:09 pm

bobhenstra wrote:
DrJones wrote:PS -- I appreciate your comments jonesde and Bob H...

When my talk at the LDS Freedom Forum conference is available to you and all, what I'm saying above will make more sense.

Waiting patiently------BRENT!!! :-$

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Thanks Bob -- but I think you mean Brian...

Its a big job inserting my slides to go with the voice.

I have a somewhat simpler task if someone will take it -- Editing a youtube video with my remarks (I have permission to do this) to shorten it down to less than 15 minutes. Does anyone know how to edit a vid, just taking things OUT (not putting anything in)? if willing, pls pm me. The vid is about Energy and the Constitution... and a reference at the end to the Savior.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby bobhenstra » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:18 am

Lol, I was yelling at Brent Larson, I thought he was in charge of videos-----Sorry Brian!

SOMCHBDA (strange old man chasing his brain down again)

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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby mes5464 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:31 pm

Dr. Jones,

I found this today? Do any of these look legitimate?

http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/02/argen ... tic-motor/

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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby patriotsaint » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:41 pm

Dr Jones

Are you involved with any of these groups (witts specifically)?

I checked out their website and while the technology seems incredible, it seems too good to be true. My scam-o-meter went off when I discovered they are pretending to "give" technology away, but only after a required "donation" is given.

I would love to support a venture like this if it was shown to be legit. I just have a hard time believing that they can't acquire all the needed capital if their systems actually function. I'd build a water powered car tomorrow and buy a generator too if they actually worked and plans were available for a reasonable cost.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby mes5464 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:33 am

I was praying last night about freedom energy and the feeling I got was this:

God has provided a way. We can have free water (well), free sewer (septic), free food (garden/livestock). I believe He has a way for us to have free electricity.
I just felt like trying to sell the plans (which I think will prove to be simple to understand) for free energy is a lot like priestcrafts.
Heavenly Father gives you free knowledge about free power, and you want to get rich with that knowledge?! Just doesn't seem right.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:25 am

patriotsaint wrote:Dr Jones

Are you involved with any of these groups (witts specifically)?

I checked out their website and while the technology seems incredible, it seems too good to be true. My scam-o-meter went off when I discovered they are pretending to "give" technology away, but only after a required "donation" is given.

I would love to support a venture like this if it was shown to be legit. I just have a hard time believing that they can't acquire all the needed capital if their systems actually function. I'd build a water powered car tomorrow and buy a generator too if they actually worked and plans were available for a reasonable cost.


I am NOT involved with WITTS, at all. I agree with you (having heard also of donors to them, who get no information on how to build after donating money):
I checked out their website and while the technology seems incredible, it seems too good to be true. My scam-o-meter went off when I discovered they are pretending to "give" technology away, but only after a required "donation" is given.


Marion-- I saw the vid... Does the motor involve permanent magnets only? Or electromagnets firing (e.g., on and off)? Are there any capacitors or batteries? Can you get ANY information beyond a mere vid which claims nothing and explains very little?
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby BeNotDeceived » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:00 am

DrJones wrote:1. Build a thousand or 10,000 of these devices and sell them at a fair profit, but not expensive. <$1K each. As "research test devices" to avoid having to get approval from gov't e.g. Underwriter Labs. Distributed manufacture in several countries, NOT centralized (and easy to shut down).
Announce with fanfare then sell them hopefully quickly -- in several countries simultaneously, and with local media publicity. Thus to make the breakthrough known and ? unstoppable.
Basically "let the chips fall where they may", realizing that this may be declared a threat or unsafe (it is very safe! one device runs on a 9Volt battery no problem).


This guy has taken on titans and won. :ymapplause:

http://www.inventored.org/


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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby jonesde » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:10 am

mes5464 wrote:I was praying last night about freedom energy and the feeling I got was this:

God has provided a way. We can have free water (well), free sewer (septic), free food (garden/livestock). I believe He has a way for us to have free electricity.


In a way similar to well water and septic sewer treatment God has provided free energy. Both wells and septic systems cost money (or effort at least) to build, and wells even require "work" by electrical or other means to lift the water, even if God has provided natural/automatic means of making the water clean enough for our use.

In that same way solar panels provide free energy. They require initial expense (really just effort by a number of different people), to get equipment in place that will transform energy, but then the energy from the sun is free.

In a way even so-called "fossil fuels" like coal, oil, and natural gas are the same way. Heck, God even went to the trouble of providing fuels just sitting around for the taking and use in all 3 states of matter.

mes5464 wrote:I just felt like trying to sell the plans (which I think will prove to be simple to understand) for free energy is a lot like priestcrafts.
Heavenly Father gives you free knowledge about free power, and you want to get rich with that knowledge?! Just doesn't seem right.


To some extent it is maybe like priestcraft, but education is different from preaching. Even the Church charges for religious education, and both religion professors at church colleges and institute teachers are paid, and there are charges for printed religious material (though they make nearly everything available for free online these days).

On the other hand, priestcraft is the normal way of doing religion for most religions and most of the world... there are very few exceptions. The same goes for invention, it is very rare for people to share things for free and not seek gain for inventions or ideas, even beyond the "education" aspect and the labor put into materials, and using the violence of government to put their interests above that of their neighbors.

It's certainly a problem... Unfortunately we can't expect people to give up their work for free, let alone for a reasonable price. If only God would simply inspire some people who are more generous to come up with solutions to these problems instead of those who want to leverage it to reduce their required work to little or nothing. It sounds like many of those who DrJones is communicating with who are doing energy research are in this category. Oh well, God works in mysterious ways...

People are lazy and constantly seeking to have other people work more so they won't have to. All wealth represents is the ability to meet ones needs without working, ie to get other people to do all the work. No wonder it is so appealing...
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby SpeedRacer » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:34 pm

If you want to make enough money, to pay off your research hours, and sustain even a modest living, you are going to have to follow all the channels. The issue you will encounter when you go to see this mainstream is what you have already pointed out. If it does not have a UL sticker, then it will more than likely void the home owner's insurance and fire insurance. This means people will not purchase them without incurring a huge risk.

That said, I can appreciate your dilemma. I think I would work with your other two over-seas friends and get these produced for cheap in other countries. Once you get acceptable market penetration, even 1%, you can attempt to bring them stateside where you will actually make some money. Your overseas work would have to be looked at further investment into further distribution. Maybe write them down like marketing/promotional costs, unless you can actually make a small margin. You don't want to restrict these just to the rich, I don't think.

Sorry I cannot be of more help, good luck. I check http://www.zpenergy.com/ from time to time. This community might be able to help out.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:49 am

OK -- we have one inventor in Europe who shows compelling evidence for a working freedom-energy device, who is willing to share it with mankind... but who needs a fair compensation for his work (he is poor) in order to make the jump to do this completely open source (and not patented!). Somewhere around $50K, consider it a "freedom energy prize". The device is straightforward once given the details, he says, and think this is correct from the info so far given out.

Now, I think that working together -- including this and other forums -- we can raise the prize money to see this happen. I don't think the money should funnel through one US citizen, however -- this would raise all sorts of red flags IMHO.

So I'm asking, what organization or group or forum (NOT government or Internationalist Corporations) could or would provide such a vehicle to collect donations at the $50K level and (after approval from a select expert panel) then award the prize?

Would this forum leadership be willing to do this?


PS - I have contacted my friend at Solar Cookers International... they're thinking about it, he says... slow!
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:11 pm

Note that first a "preliminary prize" of 1000 euros (about $1300, proposed and accepted by one inventor) would go to the inventor, then the device would be sent for testing at a laboratory here. IF the device proved to have anomalous excess energy, that is, more power out than electrical power in to get it running, then the larger prize would be rewarded and the information divulged freely and simultaneously from numerous web-points on a single day. That's the basic plan. Comments welcomed, and again, a willing group to accept donations is needed!
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby SpeedRacer » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:24 pm

This does not see to facilitate it going public and being available. Getting donations for a cash prize requires immense amounts of trust. These devices fall in a category that carry a certain stigma. Tons of hype, never any real results. The nature of donations and cash prizes mean zero accountability of the money. Sure it is under the guise of evading a conspiracy, but that further fuels the stigma.

Worst case scenario, you get some country bumpkins who think they could eliminate their electric bill they are barely paying on a monthly basis to put up some cash into pot, then tell them it went overseas for a good cause. They were on a fixed income thinking the device would be quickly available once freed into the public via their cash donation, but truth is it would take years to produce something, if not decades, that they could use to even produce a fraction of the power they need to run their homes. So they are out of cash, and have to go a few months without some vital basics.

Best case scenario, the schtick is valid, and some European scientist is so scared of "them" that he frees the info to the public that enables creation of devices from parts you can pickup at radio shack. Have you seen "The Saint"?

I would caution anyone from putting up cash until there is some sign of validity. Like a corporation (EIN) with some form of insurance that can be held liable for loss of funds. Something that can be validated. Someway of getting your money back if something goes wrong, or something is stolen.

I know this comes across as offensive, but mormons are heavily targeted due to their good natures and beliefs. Friendly discussion is one thing, putting money up for a venture is completely different.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:44 pm

I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the opposition to the idea of getting this out to the public quickly, but I would appreciate your responses (see my questions below). I stated clearly that there would be validation by an "expert panel."

SpeedRacer wrote:This does not see to facilitate it going public and being available. Getting donations for a cash prize requires immense amounts of trust. These devices fall in a category that carry a certain stigma. Tons of hype, never any real results. The nature of donations and cash prizes mean zero accountability of the money. Sure it is under the guise of evading a conspiracy, but that further fuels the stigma.

Worst case scenario, you get some country bumpkins who think they could eliminate their electric bill they are barely paying on a monthly basis to put up some cash into pot, then tell them it went overseas for a good cause. They were on a fixed income thinking the device would be quickly available once freed into the public via their cash donation, but truth is it would take years to produce something, if not decades, that they could use to even produce a fraction of the power they need to run their homes. So they are out of cash, and have to go a few months without some vital basics.

Best case scenario, the schtick is valid, and some European scientist is so scared of "them" that he frees the info to the public that enables creation of devices from parts you can pickup at radio shack. Have you seen "The Saint"?

I would caution anyone from putting up cash until there is some sign of validity. Like a corporation (EIN) with some form of insurance that can be held liable for loss of funds. Something that can be validated. Someway of getting your money back if something goes wrong, or something is stolen.

I know this comes across as offensive, but mormons are heavily targeted due to their good natures and beliefs. Friendly discussion is one thing, putting money up for a venture is completely different.


Wow. Please comment on these portions of my last two posts, speedracer:
1. and (after approval from a select expert panel) then award the prize


2. Note that first a "preliminary prize" of 1000 euros (about $1300, proposed and accepted by one inventor) would go to the inventor, then the device would be sent for testing at a laboratory here. IF the device proved to have anomalous excess energy, that is, more power out than electrical power in to get it running, then the larger prize would be rewarded and the information divulged freely and simultaneously from numerous web-points on a single day.


You obviously missed my talk in Orem a few weeks ago...
Right?

Further notes:
The inventors of interest want to go open source, to the public directly and quickly, rather than the difficult process of seeking a patent that likely will not be honored.

Another reason for open source approach is the TIME required to get a patent.

An expert panel will assess the validity of a claimed freedom energy invention, rather than the patent office.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby SpeedRacer » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:01 pm

I read all the posts. I know you were contemplating different methods. The one you settled on seems to meet all the requirements you have said need to be met. I am not trying to say that you are malicious. I do know people are greedy, and people around you, in this economy, will encounter greater temptation to spoil your efforts to help themselves out. If that were to happen, and ruin your process, without insurance, your donations are gone. Spend the money to setup a legal entity. Two weeks to get that. Then you can get insurance in a couple days. Then you are protected, and so are the people who donate. This company does not need to worry about patents, it is a competition company. You make zero money, you pay zero taxes.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby BeNotDeceived » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:26 pm

DrJones wrote:Further notes:
The inventors of interest want to go open source, to the public directly and quickly, rather than the difficult process of seeking a patent that likely will not be honored.

Another reason for open source approach is the TIME required to get a patent.

An expert panel will assess the validity of a claimed freedom energy invention, rather than the patent office.


These statements shows you have very limited understanding of what a patent is and what it does.

The patent doesn't need to issue, before proceeding. You have one year to file the patent after making public disclosure or offer to sale without loosing US patent rights and you can extend for another year by filing a provisional patent at the one year mark.

The only evaluation the Patent office may apply is if they consider it a Perpetual Motion Machine. Where does the energy come from, is it a mass to energy conversion, or are you somehow superseding the accepted laws of thermodynamics? :-?

The founder of http://www.inventored.org/ is a successful inventor who graduated from MIT and his website should help remedy your confusion.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:54 pm

BeNotDeceived wrote:
These statements shows you have very limited understanding of what a patent is and what it does.

The patent doesn't need to issue, before proceeding. You have one year to file the patent after making public disclosure or offer to sale without loosing US patent rights and you can extend for another year by filing a provisional patent at the one year mark.

The only evaluation the Patent office may apply is if they consider it a Perpetual Motion Machine. Where does the energy come from, is it a mass to energy conversion, or are you somehow superseding the accepted laws of thermodynamics? :-?

The founder of http://www.inventored.org/ is a successful inventor who graduated from MIT and his website should help remedy your confusion.


"Very limited understanding"? Wow! judged again.

However, I am not speaking of patenting in general -- I myself (within an organization) applied for a patent years ago, and so I may be more aware than you think.

No, here I'm talking about the problems of patenting a "free energy" device. At the LDS FF dinner a month ago, I spoke of these problems. My talk will be available and I invite you to re-consider. Meanwhile, you might check how long the USPTOffice held up brother Henry Moray's device; and finally denied him a patent on his free energy device. (And suppressed it.)
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby bobhenstra » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:21 pm

The only way it'll happen is if the inventor offers his ideas to the world, then (if the thing works) he makes his money off of appearances, prizes, etc. Any other way It won't happen at all because of patent laws in different countries. It'll be tied up in courts arguing about rights. The plans have to be revealed to the whole world at once. If Thomas Moray had done that he would now be a world hero!

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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:32 pm

bobhenstra wrote:The only way it'll happen is if the inventor offers his ideas to the world, then (if the thing works) he makes his money off of appearances, prizes, etc. Any other way It won't happen at all because of patent laws in different countries. It'll be tied up in courts arguing about rights. The plans have to be revealed to the whole world at once. If Thomas Moray had done that he would now be a world hero!

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I tend to agree with you, Bob. Freely we have received, freely we give for the betterment of mankind -- is the goal.

Thanks for additional comments SpeedRacer.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby Sariel » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:09 pm

Are you saying he will reveal the plans for $50,000? It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to raise the money. I'd be willing to donate a few dollars if it seemed legit. I'd be inclined to donate more money after receiving the plans and if I felt I could implement them myself at home; this way he may end up with more money than the original fee. Further, I would donate even more money if the plans were released without requiring a fee in the beginning.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:10 pm

Azriel wrote:Are you saying he will reveal the plans for $50,000? It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to raise the money. I'd be willing to donate a few dollars if it seemed legit. I'd be inclined to donate more money after receiving the plans and if I felt I could implement them myself at home; this way he may end up with more money than the original fee. Further, I would donate even more money if the plans were released without requiring a fee in the beginning.


Good news, thank you Azriel. Yes, the agreement is that the plans would be available -- and first to "angel donors" as I call those of us willing to contribute. "Legit" -- will be checked and re-checked by competent scientists before we ask for donations to this cause. I myself am willing to provide the initial fee -- to cover shipping costs etc.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby mes5464 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:27 am

Dr Jones,

I am willing to contribute.

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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:05 pm

Thanks, Marion!
I'm still working to find a small organization that can accept donations and provide the "humanitarian reward."
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby 2BFree » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:06 pm

Dr. Jones...I and some partners are in the process of setting up a non-profit humanitarian organization to explore and research these types of inventions for the benefit of 3rd world and even 1st world people. This will be a fuly funded entity so there wouldn't be a need for additional "contributions". Is there any online public info on this and the other devices you consider viable that we can reference for investment and development? We already have a development company in place that could help in the evaluation and additional development for production of these types of systems. I would love to exchange additional info with you privately if you are interested. Please send me a PM and let's get this going.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby JohnnyL » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:36 pm

FIRST, how about moving this thread to the Private Conversation section?? ;)
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby DrJones » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:30 pm

2BFree wrote:Dr. Jones...I and some partners are in the process of setting up a non-profit humanitarian organization to explore and research these types of inventions for the benefit of 3rd world and even 1st world people. This will be a fuly funded entity so there wouldn't be a need for additional "contributions". Is there any online public info on this and the other devices you consider viable that we can reference for investment and development? We already have a development company in place that could help in the evaluation and additional development for production of these types of systems. I would love to exchange additional info with you privately if you are interested. Please send me a PM and let's get this going.


Sounds interesting alright - let's talk. My first question will be -- what can you do to provide a "reward" at the level of $50K to free up the technology to mankind, as discussed above, in the NEXT MONTH? I'm just concerned that the timing of your non-profit may be too slow... But pls email me at EMDevice12@yahoo.com -- and thanks!
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby SempiternalHarbinger » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:01 pm

mes5464 wrote:I was praying last night about freedom energy and the feeling I got was this:

God has provided a way. We can have free water (well), free sewer (septic), free food (garden/livestock). I believe He has a way for us to have free electricity.
I just felt like trying to sell the plans (which I think will prove to be simple to understand) for free energy is a lot like priestcrafts.
Heavenly Father gives you free knowledge about free power, and you want to get rich with that knowledge?! Just doesn't seem right.


Its not right at all. The Lord has created this earth plentiful with plenty to spare. And you are right, it's all about the money. I believe In the near future your prayers will be answered. Jesus Christ is the light of the world because he is the source of the light which “proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space” (D&C 88:12).

The “Earth is the Lord’s.” For he created all things. I believe all the things you are talking about are already possible in regards to Free, unlimited energy. This is already possible because the Universe, galaxy, and our solar system has unlimited amounts of energy. The Universe is not a vacuum as they would have us believe.

I believe the Key to the future is in the past. Building on the shoulders of giants. One of these giants is Nikola Tesla. I noticed his name has been brought up and would like to expound a little bit. Nikola Tesla has been givin the nick name, "The man who electrified the world," or "the man who created the 20th century." And rightfully so. Our history books are full of lies and they completely ignore Tesla and have given credit that belongs to him to others were the credit wasn't due. (Thomas Edison,Guglielmo Marconi) He is truly a unrecognized Genius! I believe Tesla is one of the greatest inventors, scientist, engineers in this last dispensation. It's funny that you bring up priestcraft, because that is exactly what Tesla was unrightfully labeled as. They called it priestcraft, dark magic while he was developing all the technology we have today. He also knew Einstein’s theory of relativity was a complete farce!!!!

"Einsteins relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists."

During his lifetime, Tesla invented fluorescent lighting, lasers, radio, robotics, spark plugs, X-Rays, the electric motor, the Tesla coil, and developed the alternating current (AC) electrical supply system that included a motor and transformer, the loudspeaker, Microwaves, and 3-phase electricity. These are just a few. He had over 700 patents and with his photographic memory he stored thousands more never having writing them down. The Tesla coil, invented in 1891, is still used in radio and television sets and other electronic equipment.

Beside being a great inventor, he understood the big picture. He understood the power of the Universe and was learning how to harness it. Once he figured it out and how to tap into this unlimited amount of Energy He developed a way to provide free electricity to the world. Which happened to be his lifetime goal.

"Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature." Wheelwork of nature? What a incredible, profound statement. Only those who are familiar with EU understand it's implications.

So what happened? Why was Tesla unsuccessful? The answer is simple, There was a conspiracy! The powers that be made sure he was not successful. Long story short, the conspiracy includes his financiers, Col. John Jacob Astor, owner of the Waldorf-Astoria drowning with the titanic, the manipulated crash of wall street in 1907, and how none other than JP Morgan got involved with Tesla. While Tesla was almost done with his new project, he kept the projects main objective from Morgan, than Morgan figured out the real plans, Tesla was developing a power device that was going to provide free energy to the world. Morgan was not having any part of that and sank Tesla. Nothing is free in this world when you can make a dollar of it and Morgan knew the implications if Tesla was successful. Tesla lost everything, and basically lived in poverty the rest of his days in depression. Tesla was on the verge of changing the entire world for the better but got buried. When he died the FBI raided his house and confiscated everything and labeled it Top Secret.

Anyway, I imagine in the millennium, energy will be similar to this example of the Tesla Coil. Wireless electricity. Just on a bigger scale. Enjoy..

Telsa Coil Demo



Two short clips from the movie, The Prestige.





Nikola Tesla and The Electric Universe



Tesla Biography

NIKOLA TESLA, THE GENIUS WHO LIT THE WORLD
http://www.teslasociety.com/biography.htm

I have found a lot of knowledge by reading the original works of Maxwell and Tesla.
I hope these words give you new found knowledge too.

EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY
by Nikola Tesla. Delivered before the Institution of Electrical Engineers, London, February 1892.
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm

Here is a great talk with Eric Dollard on Tesla and longitutinal energy which he calls magneto-dielectric energy. Dollards understanding of Tesla is the best guide to his genius.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/73155/Eric-Do ... s-19861991

This is some of the best Tesla material ever presented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc ... re=related

Selected Tesla Papers and Speeches
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/contents.htm

The discovery of Standing Waves in Colorado by Tesla is a really good read. This is a perfect example of how the truth will set you free. The Earth is an infinite conductor. No different then a hollow copper sphere. Simply by watching the results of an electrical storm on his instruments, Tesla learned that the Earth transmitts lightning strikes, globally.

This made him alter the design of the Magnifying Transmitter to take control of this new discovery of standing waves and how to implement the Magnifying Transmitter design to it's fullest potential (pun intended) for the global transmission of power.

Indeed Morgan shut him down and kept it from us ever since. Those with the money, those who control money, control knowledge. Its a loss of truth and knowledge, because money took over.

I pray you will become aware of how all these different and seemingly disparitive problems come togther in the Tower that Morgan shut down, the Tower that was going to set the world free....is all connected to why we are dumbed down. Morgan was instrumental in education by the state. He was also instrumental in Tesla being striken from the text books of education. If you think this is not important or too conspiracy related, I am sorry, but it is the truth and the dots do connect, right to this very day.

Nothing has changed. The earth is still no different then a hollow copper sphere and yes the transmission of power world-wide, without wires is going on this very second with lightning strikes.

The only thing that is still free, is your mind and the ability to connect the dots for yourself.

Tesla is still a subject that will not be mentioned by name, not even at MIT lectures....not in electronic books from the "Radio College of Canada", who still taught, incorrectly, that Marconi developed radio. It can be only because of a concerted effort to keep us dumbed down by those who do write history.


THE TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY WITHOUT WIRES
by Nikola Tesla


Electrical World and Engineer, March 5, 1904

It is impossible to resist your courteous request extended on an occasion of such moment in the life of your journal. Your letter has vivified the memory of our beginning friendship, of the first imperfect attempts and undeserved successes, of kindnesses and misunderstandings. It has brought painfully to my mind the greatness of early expectations, the quick flight of time, and alas! the smallness of realizations. The following lines which, but for your initiative, might not have been given to the world for a long time yet, are an offering in the friendly spirit of old, and my best wishes for your future success accompany them.

Towards the close of 1898 a systematic research, carried on for a number of years with the object of perfecting a method of transmission of electrical energy through the natural medium, led me to recognize three important necessities: First, to develop a transmitter of great power; second, to perfect means for individualizing and isolating the energy transmitted; and, third, to ascertain the laws of propagation of currents through the earth and the atmosphere. Various reasons, not the least of which was the help proffered by my friend Leonard E. Curtis and the Colorado Springs Electric Company, determined me to select for my experimental investigations the large plateau, two thousand meters above sea-level, in the vicinity of that delightful resort, which I reached late in May, 1899. I had not been there but a few days when I congratulated myself on the happy choice and I began the task, for which I had long trained myself, with a grateful sense and full of inspiring hope. The perfect purity of the air, the unequaled beauty of the sky, the imposing sight of a high mountain range, the quiet and restfulness of the place—all around contributed to make the conditions for scientific observations ideal. To this was added the exhilarating influence of a glorious climate and a singular sharpening of the senses. In those regions the organs undergo perceptible physical changes. The eyes assume an extraordinary limpidity, improving vision; the ears dry out and become more susceptible to sound. Objects can be clearly distinguished there at distances such that I prefer to have them told by someone else, and I have heard—this I can venture to vouch for—the claps of thunder seven and eight hundred kilometers away. I might have done better still, had it not been tedious to wait for the sounds to arrive, in definite intervals, as heralded precisely by an electrical indicating apparatus—nearly an hour before.

In the middle of June, while preparations for other work were going on, I arranged one of my receiving transformers with the view of determining in a novel manner, experimentally, the electric potential of the globe and studying its periodic and casual fluctuations. This formed part of a plan carefully mapped out in advance. A highly sensitive, self-restorative device, controlling a recording instrument, was included in the secondary circuit, while the primary was connected to the ground and an elevated terminal of adjustable capacity. The variations of potential gave rise to electric surgings in the primary; these generated secondary currents, which in turn affected the sensitive device and recorder in proportion to their intensity. The earth was found to be, literally, alive with electrical vibrations, and soon I was deeply absorbed in the interesting investigation. No better opportunities for such observations as I intended to make could be found anywhere. Colorado is a country famous for the natural displays of electric force. In that dry and rarefied atmosphere the sun's rays beat the objects with fierce intensity. I raised steam, to a dangerous pressure, in barrels filled with concentrated salt solution, and the tin-foil coatings of some of my elevated terminals shriveled up in the fiery blaze. An experimental high-tension transformer, carelessly exposed to the rays of the setting sun, had most of its insulating compound melted out and was rendered useless. Aided by the dryness and rarefaction of the air, the water evaporates as in a boiler, and static electricity is developed in abundance. Lightning discharges are, accordingly, very frequent and sometimes of inconceivable violence. On one occasion approximately twelve thousand discharges occurred in two hours, and all in a radius of certainly less than fifty kilometers from the laboratory. Many of them resembled gigantic trees of fire with the trunks up or down. I never saw fire balls, but as compensation for my disappointment I succeeded later in determining the mode of their formation and producing them artificially.

In the latter part of the same month I noticed several times that my instruments were affected stronger by discharges taking place at great distances than by those near by. This puzzled me very much. What was the cause? A number of observations proved that it could not be due to the differences in the intensity of the individual discharges, and I readily ascertained that the phenomenon was not the result of a varying relation between the periods of my receiving circuits and those of the terrestrial disturbances. One night, as I was walking home with an assistant, meditating over these experiences, I was suddenly staggered by a thought. Years ago, when I wrote a chapter of my lecture before the Franklin Institute and the National Electric Light Association, it had presented itself to me, but I dismissed it as absurd and impossible. I banished it again. Nevertheless, my instinct was aroused and somehow I felt that I was nearing a great revelation.

It was on the third of July—the date I shall never forget—when I obtained the first decisive experimental evidence of a truth of overwhelming importance for the advancement of humanity. A dense mass of strongly charged clouds gathered in the west and towards the evening a violent storm broke loose which, after spending much of its fury in the mountains, was driven away with great velocity over the plains. Heavy and long persisting arcs formed almost in regular time intervals. My observations were now greatly facilitated and rendered more accurate by the experiences already gained. I was able to handle my instruments quickly and I was prepared. The recording apparatus being properly adjusted, its indications became fainter and fainter with the increasing distance of the storm, until they ceased altogether. I was watching in eager expectation. Surely enough, in a little while the indications again began, grew stronger and stronger and, after passing through a maximum, gradually decreased and ceased once more. Many times, in regularly recurring intervals, the same actions were repeated until the storm which, as evident from simple computations, was moving with nearly constant speed, had retreated to a distance of about three hundred kilometers. Nor did these strange actions stop then, but continued to manifest themselves with undiminished force. Subsequently, similar observations were also made by my assistant, Mr. Fritz Lowenstein, and shortly afterward several admirable opportunities presented themselves which brought out, still more forcibly, and unmistakably, the true nature of the wonderful phenomenon. No doubt, whatever remained: I was observing stationary waves.

As the source of disturbances moved away the receiving circuit came successively upon their nodes and loops. Impossible as it seemed, this planet, despite its vast extent, behaved like a conductor of limited dimensions. The tremendous significance of this fact in the transmission of energy by my system had already become quite clear to me. Not only was it practicable to send telegraphic messages to any distance without wires, as I recognized long ago, but also to impress upon the entire globe the faint modulations of the human voice, far more still, to transmit power, in unlimited amounts, to any terrestrial distance and almost without loss.

With these stupendous possibilities in sight, and the experimental evidence before me that their realization was henceforth merely a question of expert knowledge, patience and skill, I attacked vigorously the development of my magnifying transmitter, now, however, not so much with the original intention of producing one of great power, as with the object of learning how to construct the best one. This is, essentially, a circuit of very high self-induction and small resistance which in its arrangement, mode of excitation and action, may be said to be the diametrical opposite of a transmitting circuit typical of telegraphy by Hertzian or electromagnetic radiations. It is difficult to form an adequate idea of the marvelous power of this unique appliance, by the aid of which the globe will be transformed. The electromagnetic radiations being reduced to an insignificant quantity, and proper conditions of resonance maintained, the circuit acts like an immense pendulum, storing indefinitely the energy of the primary exciting impulses and impressions upon the earth of the primary exciting impulses and impressions upon the earth and its conducting atmosphere uniform harmonic oscillations of intensities which, as actual tests have shown, may be pushed so far as to surpass those attained in the natural displays of static electricity.


Simultaneously with these endeavors, the means of individualization and isolation were gradually improved. Great importance was attached to this, for it was found that simple tuning was not sufficient to meet the vigorous practical requirements. The fundamental idea of employing a number of distinctive elements, co-operatively associated, for the purpose of isolating energy transmitted, I trace directly to my perusal of Spencer's clear and suggestive exposition of the human nerve mechanism. The influence of this principle on the transmission of intelligence, and electrical energy in general, cannot as yet be estimated, for the art is still in the embryonic stage; but many thousands of simultaneous telegraphic and telephonic messages, through one single conducting channel, natural or artificial, and without serious mutual interference, are certainly practicable, while millions are possible. On the other hand, any desired degree of individualization may be secured by the use of a great number of co-operative elements and arbitrary variation of their distinctive features and order of succession. For obvious reasons, the principle will also be valuable in the extension of the distance of transmission.

Progress though of necessity slow was steady and sure, for the objects aimed at were in a direction of my constant study and exercise. It is, therefore, not astonishing that before the end of 1899 I completed the task undertaken and reached the results which I have announced in my article in the Century Magazine of June, 1900, every word of which was carefully weighed.

Much has already been done towards making my system commercially available, in the transmission of energy in small amounts for specific purposes, as well as on an industrial scale. The results attained by me have made my scheme of intelligence transmission, for which the name of "World Telegraphy" has been suggested, easily realizable. It constitutes, I believe, in its principle of operation, means employed and capacities of application, a radical and fruitful departure from what has been done heretofore. I have no doubt that it will prove very efficient in enlightening the masses, particularly in still uncivilized countries and less accessible regions, and that it will add materially to general safety, comfort and convenience, and maintenance of peaceful relations. It involves the employment of a number of plants, all of which are capable of transmitting individualized signals to the uttermost confines of the earth. Each of them will be preferably located near some important center of civilization and the news it receives through any channel will be flashed to all points of the globe. A cheap and simple device, which might be carried in one's pocket, may then be set up somewhere on sea or land, and it will record the world's news or such special messages as may be intended for it. Thus the entire earth will be converted into a huge brain, as it were, capable of response in every one of its parts. Since a single plant of but one hundred horse-power can operate hundreds of millions of instruments, the system will have a virtually infinite working capacity, and it must needs immensely facilitate and cheapen the transmission of intelligence.

The first of these central plants would have been already completed had it not been for unforeseen delays which, fortunately, have nothing to do with its purely technical features. But this loss of time, while vexatious, may, after all, prove to be a blessing in disguise. The best design of which I know has been adopted, and the transmitter will emit a wave complex of total maximum activity of ten million horse-power, one per cent. of which is amply sufficient to "girdle the globe." This enormous rate of energy delivery, approximately twice that of the combined falls of Niagara, is obtainable only by the use of certain artifices, which I shall make known in due course.

For a large part of the work which I have done so far I am indebted to the noble generosity of Mr. J. Pierpont Morgan, which was all the more welcome and stimulating, as it was extended at a time when those, who have since promised most, were the greatest of doubters. I have also to thank my friend, Stanford White, for much unselfish and valuable assistance. This work is now far advanced, and though the results may be tardy, they are sure to come.

Meanwhile, the transmission of energy on an industrial scale is not being neglected. The Canadian Niagara Power Company have offered me a splendid inducement, and next to achieving success for the sake of the art, it will give me the greatest satisfaction to make their concession financially profitable to them. In this first power plant, which I have been designing for a long time, I propose to distribute ten thousand horse-power under a tension of one hundred million volts, which I am now able to produce and handle with safety.

This energy will be collected all over the globe preferably in small amounts, ranging from a fraction of one to a few horse-power. One its chief uses will be the illumination of isolated homes. I takes very little power to light a dwelling with vacuum tubes operated by high-frequency currents and in each instance a terminal a little above the roof will be sufficient. Another valuable application will be the driving of clocks and other such apparatus. These clocks will be exceedingly simple, will require absolutely no attention and will indicate rigorously correct time. The idea of impressing upon the earth American time is fascinating and very likely to become popular. There are innumerable devices of all kinds which are either now employed or can be supplied, and by operating them in this manner I may be able to offer a great convenience to whole world with a plant of no more than ten thousand horse-power. The introduction of this system will give opportunities for invention and manufacture such as have never presented themselves before.

Knowing the far-reaching importance of this first attempt and its effect upon future development, I shall proceed slowly and carefully. Experience has taught me not to assign a term to enterprises the consummation of which is not wholly dependent on my own abilities and exertions. But I am hopeful that these great realizations are not far off, and I know that when this first work is completed they will follow with mathematical certitude.

When the great truth accidentally revealed and experimentally confirmed is fully recognized, that this planet, with all its appalling immensity, is to electric currents virtually no more than a small metal ball and that by this fact many possibilities, each baffling imagination and of incalculable consequence, are rendered absolutely sure of accomplishment; when the first plant is inaugurated and it is shown that a telegraphic message, almost as secret and non-interferable as a thought, can be transmitted to any terrestrial distance, the sound of the human voice, with all its intonations and inflections, faithfully and instantly reproduced at any other point of the globe, the energy of a waterfall made available for supplying light, heat or motive power, anywhere-on sea, or land, or high in the air-humanity will be like an ant heap stirred up with a stick: See the excitement coming!
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1904-03-05.htm


Nikola Tesla, circa 1892 on AC of high potential and high frequency and how his lab work explains the auroras.
Just think my friends, Back in the day of Birkeland and Tesla, circa 1892, when the EU was alive and well in the scientific mind....those were the days my friends. My how far we have come to such a dark matter.

When two wires, attached to the terminals of the coil, are set at the proper distance, the streams between them may be so intense as to produce a continuous luminous sheet. To show this phenomenon I have here two circles, C and c (Fig. 10), of rather stout wire, one being about 80 centimetres and the other 30 centimetres in diameter. To each of the terminals of the coil I attach one of the circles. The supporting wires are so bent that the circles may be placed in the same plane, coinciding as nearly as possible. When the light in the room is turned off and the coil set to work, you see the whole space between the wires uniformly filled with streams, forming a luminous disc, which could be seen from a considerable distance, such is the intensity of the streams. The outer circle could have been much larger than the present one; in fact, with this coil I have used much larger circles, and I have been able to produce a strongly luminous sheet, covering an area of more than one square metre, which is a remarkable effect with this very small coil. To avoid uncertainty, the circle has been taken smaller, and the area is now about 0.43 square metre.

The frequency of the vibration, and the quickness of succession of the sparks between the knobs, affect to a marked degree the appearance of the streams. When the frequency is very low, the air gives way in more or less the same manner, as by a steady difference of potential, and the streams consist of distinct threads, generally mingled with thin sparks, which probably correspond to the successive discharges occurring between the knobs. But when the frequency is extremely high, and the arc of the discharge produces a very loud but smooth sound—showing both that oscillation takes place and that the sparks succeed each other with great rapidity—then the luminous streams formed are perfectly uniform. To reach this result very small coils and jars of small capacity should be used. I take two tubes of thick Bohemian glass, about 5 centimetres in diameter and 20 centimetres long. In each of the tubes I slip a primary of very thick copper wire. On the top of each tube I wind a secondary of much thinner gutta-percha covered wire. The two secondaries I connect in series, the primaries preferably in multiple arc. The tubes are then placed in a large glass vessel, at a distance of l0 to 15 centimetres from each other, on insulating supports, and the vessel is filled with boiled out oil, the oil reaching about an inch above the tubes. The free ends of the secondary are lifted out of the oil and placed parallel to each other at a distance of about 10 centimetres. The ends which are scraped should be dipped in the oil. Two four-pint jars joined in series may be used to discharge through the primary. When the necessary adjustments in the length and distance of the wires above the oil and in the arc of discharge are made, a luminous sheet is produced between the wires, which is perfectly smooth and textureless, like the ordinary discharge through a moderately exhausted tube.

I have purposely dwelt upon this apparently insignificant experiment. In trials of this kind the experimenter arrives at the startling conclusion that, to pass ordinary luminous discharges through gases, no particular degree of exhaustion is needed, but that the gas may be at ordinary or even greater pressure. To accomplish this, a very high frequency is essential; a high potential is likewise required, but this is a merely incidental necessity. These experiments teach us that, in endeavoring to discover novel methods of producing light by the agitation of atoms, or molecules, of a gas, we need not limit our research to the vacuum tube, but may look forward quite seriously to the possibility of obtaining the light effects without the use of any vessel whatever, with air at ordinary pressure.

Such discharges of very high frequency, which render luminous the air at ordinary pressures, we have probably often occasion to witness in Nature. I have no doubt that if, as many believe, the aurora borealis is produced by sudden cosmic disturbances, such as eruptions at the sun's surface, which set the electrostatic charge of the earth in an extremely rapid vibration the red glow observed is not confined to the upper rarefied strata of the air, but the discharge traverses, by reason of its very high frequency, also the dense atmosphere in the form of a glow, such as we ordinarily produce in a slightly exhausted tube. If the frequency were very low or even more so, if the charge were not at all vibrating, the dense air would break down as in a lightning discharge. Indications of such breaking down of the lower dense strata of the air have been repeatedly observed at the occurrence of this marvelous phenomenon; but if it does occur; it can only be attributed to the fundamental disturbances, which are few in number, for the vibration produced by them would be far too rapid to allow a disruptive break. It is the original and irregular impulses which affect the instruments; the superimposed vibrations probably pass unnoticed.

When an ordinary low frequency discharge is passed through moderately rarefied air, the air assumes a purplish hue. If by some means or other we increase the intensity of the molecular, or atomic, vibration, the gas changes to a white color. A similar change occurs at ordinary pressures with electric impulses of very high frequency. If the molecules of the air around a wire are moderately agitated, the brush formed is reddish or violet; if the vibration is rendered sufficiently intense, the streams become white. We may accomplish this in various ways. In the experiment before shown with the two wires across the room, I have endeavored to secure the result by pushing to a high value both the frequency and potential; in the experiment with the thin wires glued on the rubber plate I have concentrated the action upon a very small surface—in other words, I have worked with a great electric density.


Here is a great talk with Eric Dollard on Tesla and longitutinal energy which he calls magneto-dielectric energy.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/73155/Eric-Do ... s-19861991

More Dollard Videos. Its really important to read his notes and to watch these videos in that new light. One wire transmission, longitutinal transmission, wireless transmission, magneto-dielectric fields demonstrated.

A Scalar Video with Longitudinal Light and its very different attributes compared to Hertzian 60Hz Light. Longitudinal Light shows the Impuse effects of the Tesla Scalar System. It has outward pressure on biological sytems and a blue tinge with attractive forces to metal! They say it resembles star light due to the outward pressure and attractive features to metal. Sounds like a good model of the EU Star Plasma Z Pinch having Scalar properties. They continue to show the different effects from vaccum tubes, plasma tubes, argon tube, as far as propagation methods of Longitudinal Waves. The same bulbs have totally different effects when they are powered by Longitudinal Waves. The difference which is quite startling compared to hertzian light from the same bulb.

TESLA’S LONGITUDINAL ELECTRICITY
A laboratory demonstration video with Eric P. Dollard & Peter Lindemann
If you’ve ever wondered if there is more to a Tesla coil than just making big sparks then watch this video. Borderland presents a series of experiments providing you with factual data on the reality of Tesla’s theories. You will see experiments on: The One-Wire Electrical Transmission System; The Wireless Power Transmission System; Transmission of Direct Current Through Space; and, a novel form of electric light which attracts material objects but repels a human hand! Also presented is a longitudinal broadcast from Borderland Labs to a nearby beach, using the ocean as an antenna. These experiments can be reproduced by any competent researcher, there are no secrets here! Today’s conceptions of a Tesla Coil provide the researcher with little practical material. Eric Dollard reintroduces the "pancake" Tesla Coils in a series of experiments taken directly from Tesla’s work. No modern interpretations needed, we went to the source — and it worked! Construction details are given. If you want to do some exciting, exploratory work into Tesla’s theories then this video will certainly give you a good start.
60 min,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0757457294


TRANSVERSE & LONGITUDINAL ELECTRIC WAVES
A laboratory demonstration with Eric P. Dollard
Eric demonstrates the reality of longitudinal waves and their application to the natural transmission of electricity. Analog computers (networks of coils and capacitors) are presented opening up an entire new field of electrical researches into the wave forms discovered and used by Tesla in his wireless power transmissions. You will experience the physical functions of the various waves via direct measurement inside the computer network. The Longitudinal Magneto-Dielectric wave is shown to have a propagating velocity greater than the speed of light! The transverse electromagnetic wave, (in present use) is shown to be a retarded, unnatural form of energy transmission. A Multi-Pactor Orgone Detector is demonstrated indicating a relationship between dielectricity and orgone. A competent researcher can duplicate the experiments on this video from the information given. Amaze your science teacher!
50 min,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0445596549


Some quotes I found on Eric Dollard

Those films are classics. Both of them were produced by Borderland Labs. Eric Dollard, Tom Brown and I were all present for both films. I did a number of the explanation sequences in the first film, but stayed behind the camera on the second film. We actually produced three other films. The very first one was titled "Free Energy Research" where we show an amazing array of experimental test set-ups, including my Parametric Transformer generator operating at 120% efficiency, and a variation of Bruce DePalma's N-Machine, producing AC with two brushes on the shaft.

The other two films were never released for sale, but captured some of the most astonishing demonstrations I have ever seen. I had access to the video camera, so I was the cameraman on all the films. One of the events that was filmed was an "open house" where we show many of the other local engineers and physicists in the Santa Barbara area some of Eric's demonstrations. That meeting included Eric Dollard, Bruce DePalma, Tom Brown, Myself, Ed Delvers, Mike Knox, Roger Modjeski, Geoff Cook, and others. When there are that many geniuses in the room, the conversation gets very interesting. The highlight of the afternoon was the demonstration of Eric's "flame speaker" were we played Bach Concertos from the RF discharge of one of his small Tesla Coils. The high fidelity music actually came from the RF spark. No physical speaker mechanisms we involved. When the music was off, the RF discharge made a slight hissing sound. But this was quickly overpowered by the extremely high fidelity music that filled the room when the RF signal was modulated by the audio. Eric's knowledge of Tesla and Radio systems was simply unsurpassed!! All of the equipment demonstrated that day was built by Eric with support from Borderland Labs. Todays "singing Tesla coils" don't use AM modulated RF but rather PWM modulated fixed frequency. In that regard Dollard's coil is significantly different.

First of all, I don't know if Eric's audio modulation was AM or PWM. He always drove his large Tesla Coils with vacuum triodes in a "push-pull" PWM mode. He certainly had the knowledge to do it either way. The RF carrier frequency was the resonant frequency of the coil, which usually fell just outside of the AM band, in this case just above 1.6mhz. You could easily pick up the music on a short-wave radio in the room, which we did, but the music sounded better coming directly from the flame. The fidelity of the sound above 5khz was as good as the finest tweeter speaker system ever made. The clarity was stunning.

The hiss of the discharge was probably below 3 db. It wasn't much. There were no visible changes to the electronic flame when the music was made louder or softer. The flame was about two inches tall and about one inch wide at the top.



As for the current where-abouts of Eric Dollard, I do not know. I have not seen him since 1992. He has done a few speaking engagements at the San Fransisco Tesla Society in the last few years, so I know he is out there somewhere.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable ... llard.html


Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc ... re=related

The history lesson is very important.
The history of transmission of wireless energy is also very important.
Clearly we have four types of radiation and induction.
1. Pure Electrostatic.
2. Pure Magnetic.
3. EM
4. Magnetic-Dielectric

The observation that Tesla had only his mind, copper wire and wood, is very true. What he did with just those three things, is beyond what anyone has done to date, save Dollard, who only followed in the footsteps of the master. No military surplus supply shop, no radio shack, nothing.
If he wanted to envision it, he could build it. He made his own vacuum tubes, everything.
But the majority of his wireless is nothing but copper wire with a spark gap apparatus, simple things.

Its clear that NO ONE does research into these areas. We take it for granted what RCA has sold us. I for one, am not buying it.


Here are three of the books recommended by Dollard. They are by a man named Charles Proteus Steinmetz, who was hired by Edison to learn all the Tesla patents and then that way they could over come them with slight alterations like Marconi did by changing the inductance and the antenna. Its a subject I remember well, transient phenomenon. Capacitance and Inductance and the impulse and transient phenomenon associated with them, especially in high frequency and high voltages are explored with sudden loss of input and then quick and massive recharge and discharge, over and over, which is what Tesla was working on.

Theory and Calculation of Alternating Current Phenomenon
http://www.archive.org/stream/theorycal ... 5/mode/2up

Want to see how a capacitor really works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg
MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor

Published 1900

Theory and Calculation of Transient Electric Phenomenon and Oscillations
http://www.archive.org/stream/theoryandcalcul11steigoog
Published in 1920

Electric Waves, Discharges, Impulses
http://www.archive.org/stream/elementar ... 4/mode/2up
Published in 1911,

Was not my intention to high jack this thread. Just thought it was relevant.

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Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. Nikola Telsa
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby SempiternalHarbinger » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:01 pm

mes5464 wrote:I was praying last night about freedom energy and the feeling I got was this:

God has provided a way. We can have free water (well), free sewer (septic), free food (garden/livestock). I believe He has a way for us to have free electricity.
I just felt like trying to sell the plans (which I think will prove to be simple to understand) for free energy is a lot like priestcrafts.
Heavenly Father gives you free knowledge about free power, and you want to get rich with that knowledge?! Just doesn't seem right.


Its not right at all. The Lord has created this earth plentiful with plenty to spare. And you are right, it's all about the money. I believe In the near future your prayers will be answered. Jesus Christ is the light of the world because he is the source of the light which “proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space” (D&C 88:12).

The “Earth is the Lord’s.” For he created all things. I believe all the things you are talking about are already possible in regards to Free, unlimited energy. This is already possible because the Universe, galaxy, and our solar system has unlimited amounts of energy. The Universe is not a vacuum as they would have us believe.

I believe the Key to the future is in the past. Building on the shoulders of giants. One of these giants is Nikola Tesla. I noticed his name has been brought up and would like to expound a little bit. Nikola Tesla has been givin the nick name, "The man who electrified the world," or "the man who created the 20th century." And rightfully so. Our history books are full of lies and they completely ignore Tesla and have given credit that belongs to him to others were the credit wasn't due. (Thomas Edison,Guglielmo Marconi) He is truly a unrecognized Genius! I believe Tesla is one of the greatest inventors, scientist, engineers in this last dispensation. It's funny that you bring up priestcraft, because that is exactly what Tesla was unrightfully labeled as. They called it priestcraft, dark magic while he was developing all the technology we have today. He also knew Einstein’s theory of relativity was a complete farce!!!!

"Einsteins relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists."

During his lifetime, Tesla invented fluorescent lighting, lasers, radio, robotics, spark plugs, X-Rays, the electric motor, the Tesla coil, and developed the alternating current (AC) electrical supply system that included a motor and transformer, the loudspeaker, Microwaves, and 3-phase electricity. These are just a few. He had over 700 patents and with his photographic memory he stored thousands more never having writing them down. The Tesla coil, invented in 1891, is still used in radio and television sets and other electronic equipment.

Beside being a great inventor, he understood the big picture. He understood the power of the Universe and was learning how to harness it. Once he figured it out and how to tap into this unlimited amount of Energy He developed a way to provide free electricity to the world. Which happened to be his lifetime goal.

"Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature." -Nikola Tesla- Wheelwork of nature? What a incredible, profound statement. Only those who are familiar with EU understand it's implications.

So what happened? Why was Tesla unsuccessful? The answer is simple, There was a conspiracy! The powers that be made sure he was not successful. Long story short, the conspiracy includes his financiers, Col. John Jacob Astor, owner of the Waldorf-Astoria drowning with the titanic, the manipulated crash of wall street in 1907, and how none other than JP Morgan got involved with Tesla. While Tesla was almost done with his new project, he kept the projects main objective from Morgan, than Morgan figured out the real plans, Tesla was developing a power device that was going to provide free energy to the world. Morgan was not having any part of that and sank Tesla. Nothing is free in this world when you can make a dollar of it and Morgan knew the implications if Tesla was successful. Tesla lost everything, and basically lived in poverty the rest of his days in depression. Tesla was on the verge of changing the entire world for the better but got buried. When he died the FBI raided his house and confiscated everything and labeled it Top Secret.

Anyway, I imagine in the millennium, energy will be similar to this example of the Tesla Coil. Wireless electricity. Just on a bigger scale. Enjoy..

Telsa Coil Demo



Now how cool was that??

Two short clips from the movie, The Prestige.





Nikola Tesla and The Electric Universe



Tesla Biography

NIKOLA TESLA, THE GENIUS WHO LIT THE WORLD
http://www.teslasociety.com/biography.htm

I have found a lot of knowledge by reading the original works of Maxwell and Tesla.
I hope these words give you new found knowledge too.

EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY
by Nikola Tesla. Delivered before the Institution of Electrical Engineers, London, February 1892.
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm

Here is a great talk with Eric Dollard on Tesla and longitutinal energy which he calls magneto-dielectric energy. Dollards understanding of Tesla is the best guide to his genius.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/73155/Eric-Do ... s-19861991

This is some of the best Tesla material ever presented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc ... re=related

Selected Tesla Papers and Speeches
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/contents.htm

The discovery of Standing Waves in Colorado by Tesla is a really good read. This is a perfect example of how the truth will set you free. The Earth is an infinite conductor. No different then a hollow copper sphere. Simply by watching the results of an electrical storm on his instruments, Tesla learned that the Earth transmitts lightning strikes, globally.

This made him alter the design of the Magnifying Transmitter to take control of this new discovery of standing waves and how to implement the Magnifying Transmitter design to it's fullest potential (pun intended) for the global transmission of power.

Indeed Morgan shut him down and kept it from us ever since. Those with the money, those who control money, control knowledge. Its a loss of truth and knowledge, because money took over.

I pray you will become aware of how all these different and seemingly disparitive problems come togther in the Tower that Morgan shut down, the Tower that was going to set the world free....is all connected to why we are dumbed down. Morgan was instrumental in education by the state. He was also instrumental in Tesla being striken from the text books of education. If you think this is not important or too conspiracy related, I am sorry, but it is the truth and the dots do connect, right to this very day.

Nothing has changed. The earth is still no different then a hollow copper sphere and yes the transmission of power world-wide, without wires is going on this very second with lightning strikes.

The only thing that is still free, is your mind and the ability to connect the dots for yourself.

Tesla is still a subject that will not be mentioned by name, not even at MIT lectures....not in electronic books from the "Radio College of Canada", who still taught, incorrectly, that Marconi developed radio. It can be only because of a concerted effort to keep us dumbed down by those who do write history.


THE TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY WITHOUT WIRES
by Nikola Tesla


Electrical World and Engineer, March 5, 1904

It is impossible to resist your courteous request extended on an occasion of such moment in the life of your journal. Your letter has vivified the memory of our beginning friendship, of the first imperfect attempts and undeserved successes, of kindnesses and misunderstandings. It has brought painfully to my mind the greatness of early expectations, the quick flight of time, and alas! the smallness of realizations. The following lines which, but for your initiative, might not have been given to the world for a long time yet, are an offering in the friendly spirit of old, and my best wishes for your future success accompany them.

Towards the close of 1898 a systematic research, carried on for a number of years with the object of perfecting a method of transmission of electrical energy through the natural medium, led me to recognize three important necessities: First, to develop a transmitter of great power; second, to perfect means for individualizing and isolating the energy transmitted; and, third, to ascertain the laws of propagation of currents through the earth and the atmosphere. Various reasons, not the least of which was the help proffered by my friend Leonard E. Curtis and the Colorado Springs Electric Company, determined me to select for my experimental investigations the large plateau, two thousand meters above sea-level, in the vicinity of that delightful resort, which I reached late in May, 1899. I had not been there but a few days when I congratulated myself on the happy choice and I began the task, for which I had long trained myself, with a grateful sense and full of inspiring hope. The perfect purity of the air, the unequaled beauty of the sky, the imposing sight of a high mountain range, the quiet and restfulness of the place—all around contributed to make the conditions for scientific observations ideal. To this was added the exhilarating influence of a glorious climate and a singular sharpening of the senses. In those regions the organs undergo perceptible physical changes. The eyes assume an extraordinary limpidity, improving vision; the ears dry out and become more susceptible to sound. Objects can be clearly distinguished there at distances such that I prefer to have them told by someone else, and I have heard—this I can venture to vouch for—the claps of thunder seven and eight hundred kilometers away. I might have done better still, had it not been tedious to wait for the sounds to arrive, in definite intervals, as heralded precisely by an electrical indicating apparatus—nearly an hour before.

In the middle of June, while preparations for other work were going on, I arranged one of my receiving transformers with the view of determining in a novel manner, experimentally, the electric potential of the globe and studying its periodic and casual fluctuations. This formed part of a plan carefully mapped out in advance. A highly sensitive, self-restorative device, controlling a recording instrument, was included in the secondary circuit, while the primary was connected to the ground and an elevated terminal of adjustable capacity. The variations of potential gave rise to electric surgings in the primary; these generated secondary currents, which in turn affected the sensitive device and recorder in proportion to their intensity. The earth was found to be, literally, alive with electrical vibrations, and soon I was deeply absorbed in the interesting investigation. No better opportunities for such observations as I intended to make could be found anywhere. Colorado is a country famous for the natural displays of electric force. In that dry and rarefied atmosphere the sun's rays beat the objects with fierce intensity. I raised steam, to a dangerous pressure, in barrels filled with concentrated salt solution, and the tin-foil coatings of some of my elevated terminals shriveled up in the fiery blaze. An experimental high-tension transformer, carelessly exposed to the rays of the setting sun, had most of its insulating compound melted out and was rendered useless. Aided by the dryness and rarefaction of the air, the water evaporates as in a boiler, and static electricity is developed in abundance. Lightning discharges are, accordingly, very frequent and sometimes of inconceivable violence. On one occasion approximately twelve thousand discharges occurred in two hours, and all in a radius of certainly less than fifty kilometers from the laboratory. Many of them resembled gigantic trees of fire with the trunks up or down. I never saw fire balls, but as compensation for my disappointment I succeeded later in determining the mode of their formation and producing them artificially.

In the latter part of the same month I noticed several times that my instruments were affected stronger by discharges taking place at great distances than by those near by. This puzzled me very much. What was the cause? A number of observations proved that it could not be due to the differences in the intensity of the individual discharges, and I readily ascertained that the phenomenon was not the result of a varying relation between the periods of my receiving circuits and those of the terrestrial disturbances. One night, as I was walking home with an assistant, meditating over these experiences, I was suddenly staggered by a thought. Years ago, when I wrote a chapter of my lecture before the Franklin Institute and the National Electric Light Association, it had presented itself to me, but I dismissed it as absurd and impossible. I banished it again. Nevertheless, my instinct was aroused and somehow I felt that I was nearing a great revelation.

It was on the third of July—the date I shall never forget—when I obtained the first decisive experimental evidence of a truth of overwhelming importance for the advancement of humanity. A dense mass of strongly charged clouds gathered in the west and towards the evening a violent storm broke loose which, after spending much of its fury in the mountains, was driven away with great velocity over the plains. Heavy and long persisting arcs formed almost in regular time intervals. My observations were now greatly facilitated and rendered more accurate by the experiences already gained. I was able to handle my instruments quickly and I was prepared. The recording apparatus being properly adjusted, its indications became fainter and fainter with the increasing distance of the storm, until they ceased altogether. I was watching in eager expectation. Surely enough, in a little while the indications again began, grew stronger and stronger and, after passing through a maximum, gradually decreased and ceased once more. Many times, in regularly recurring intervals, the same actions were repeated until the storm which, as evident from simple computations, was moving with nearly constant speed, had retreated to a distance of about three hundred kilometers. Nor did these strange actions stop then, but continued to manifest themselves with undiminished force. Subsequently, similar observations were also made by my assistant, Mr. Fritz Lowenstein, and shortly afterward several admirable opportunities presented themselves which brought out, still more forcibly, and unmistakably, the true nature of the wonderful phenomenon. No doubt, whatever remained: I was observing stationary waves.

As the source of disturbances moved away the receiving circuit came successively upon their nodes and loops. Impossible as it seemed, this planet, despite its vast extent, behaved like a conductor of limited dimensions. The tremendous significance of this fact in the transmission of energy by my system had already become quite clear to me. Not only was it practicable to send telegraphic messages to any distance without wires, as I recognized long ago, but also to impress upon the entire globe the faint modulations of the human voice, far more still, to transmit power, in unlimited amounts, to any terrestrial distance and almost without loss.

With these stupendous possibilities in sight, and the experimental evidence before me that their realization was henceforth merely a question of expert knowledge, patience and skill, I attacked vigorously the development of my magnifying transmitter, now, however, not so much with the original intention of producing one of great power, as with the object of learning how to construct the best one. This is, essentially, a circuit of very high self-induction and small resistance which in its arrangement, mode of excitation and action, may be said to be the diametrical opposite of a transmitting circuit typical of telegraphy by Hertzian or electromagnetic radiations. It is difficult to form an adequate idea of the marvelous power of this unique appliance, by the aid of which the globe will be transformed. The electromagnetic radiations being reduced to an insignificant quantity, and proper conditions of resonance maintained, the circuit acts like an immense pendulum, storing indefinitely the energy of the primary exciting impulses and impressions upon the earth of the primary exciting impulses and impressions upon the earth and its conducting atmosphere uniform harmonic oscillations of intensities which, as actual tests have shown, may be pushed so far as to surpass those attained in the natural displays of static electricity.


Simultaneously with these endeavors, the means of individualization and isolation were gradually improved. Great importance was attached to this, for it was found that simple tuning was not sufficient to meet the vigorous practical requirements. The fundamental idea of employing a number of distinctive elements, co-operatively associated, for the purpose of isolating energy transmitted, I trace directly to my perusal of Spencer's clear and suggestive exposition of the human nerve mechanism. The influence of this principle on the transmission of intelligence, and electrical energy in general, cannot as yet be estimated, for the art is still in the embryonic stage; but many thousands of simultaneous telegraphic and telephonic messages, through one single conducting channel, natural or artificial, and without serious mutual interference, are certainly practicable, while millions are possible. On the other hand, any desired degree of individualization may be secured by the use of a great number of co-operative elements and arbitrary variation of their distinctive features and order of succession. For obvious reasons, the principle will also be valuable in the extension of the distance of transmission.

Progress though of necessity slow was steady and sure, for the objects aimed at were in a direction of my constant study and exercise. It is, therefore, not astonishing that before the end of 1899 I completed the task undertaken and reached the results which I have announced in my article in the Century Magazine of June, 1900, every word of which was carefully weighed.

Much has already been done towards making my system commercially available, in the transmission of energy in small amounts for specific purposes, as well as on an industrial scale. The results attained by me have made my scheme of intelligence transmission, for which the name of "World Telegraphy" has been suggested, easily realizable. It constitutes, I believe, in its principle of operation, means employed and capacities of application, a radical and fruitful departure from what has been done heretofore. I have no doubt that it will prove very efficient in enlightening the masses, particularly in still uncivilized countries and less accessible regions, and that it will add materially to general safety, comfort and convenience, and maintenance of peaceful relations. It involves the employment of a number of plants, all of which are capable of transmitting individualized signals to the uttermost confines of the earth. Each of them will be preferably located near some important center of civilization and the news it receives through any channel will be flashed to all points of the globe. A cheap and simple device, which might be carried in one's pocket, may then be set up somewhere on sea or land, and it will record the world's news or such special messages as may be intended for it. Thus the entire earth will be converted into a huge brain, as it were, capable of response in every one of its parts. Since a single plant of but one hundred horse-power can operate hundreds of millions of instruments, the system will have a virtually infinite working capacity, and it must needs immensely facilitate and cheapen the transmission of intelligence.

The first of these central plants would have been already completed had it not been for unforeseen delays which, fortunately, have nothing to do with its purely technical features. But this loss of time, while vexatious, may, after all, prove to be a blessing in disguise. The best design of which I know has been adopted, and the transmitter will emit a wave complex of total maximum activity of ten million horse-power, one per cent. of which is amply sufficient to "girdle the globe." This enormous rate of energy delivery, approximately twice that of the combined falls of Niagara, is obtainable only by the use of certain artifices, which I shall make known in due course.

For a large part of the work which I have done so far I am indebted to the noble generosity of Mr. J. Pierpont Morgan, which was all the more welcome and stimulating, as it was extended at a time when those, who have since promised most, were the greatest of doubters. I have also to thank my friend, Stanford White, for much unselfish and valuable assistance. This work is now far advanced, and though the results may be tardy, they are sure to come.

Meanwhile, the transmission of energy on an industrial scale is not being neglected. The Canadian Niagara Power Company have offered me a splendid inducement, and next to achieving success for the sake of the art, it will give me the greatest satisfaction to make their concession financially profitable to them. In this first power plant, which I have been designing for a long time, I propose to distribute ten thousand horse-power under a tension of one hundred million volts, which I am now able to produce and handle with safety.

This energy will be collected all over the globe preferably in small amounts, ranging from a fraction of one to a few horse-power. One its chief uses will be the illumination of isolated homes. I takes very little power to light a dwelling with vacuum tubes operated by high-frequency currents and in each instance a terminal a little above the roof will be sufficient. Another valuable application will be the driving of clocks and other such apparatus. These clocks will be exceedingly simple, will require absolutely no attention and will indicate rigorously correct time. The idea of impressing upon the earth American time is fascinating and very likely to become popular. There are innumerable devices of all kinds which are either now employed or can be supplied, and by operating them in this manner I may be able to offer a great convenience to whole world with a plant of no more than ten thousand horse-power. The introduction of this system will give opportunities for invention and manufacture such as have never presented themselves before.

Knowing the far-reaching importance of this first attempt and its effect upon future development, I shall proceed slowly and carefully. Experience has taught me not to assign a term to enterprises the consummation of which is not wholly dependent on my own abilities and exertions. But I am hopeful that these great realizations are not far off, and I know that when this first work is completed they will follow with mathematical certitude.

When the great truth accidentally revealed and experimentally confirmed is fully recognized, that this planet, with all its appalling immensity, is to electric currents virtually no more than a small metal ball and that by this fact many possibilities, each baffling imagination and of incalculable consequence, are rendered absolutely sure of accomplishment; when the first plant is inaugurated and it is shown that a telegraphic message, almost as secret and non-interferable as a thought, can be transmitted to any terrestrial distance, the sound of the human voice, with all its intonations and inflections, faithfully and instantly reproduced at any other point of the globe, the energy of a waterfall made available for supplying light, heat or motive power, anywhere-on sea, or land, or high in the air-humanity will be like an ant heap stirred up with a stick: See the excitement coming!
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1904-03-05.htm


Nikola Tesla, circa 1892 on AC of high potential and high frequency and how his lab work explains the auroras.
Just think my friends, Back in the day of Birkeland and Tesla, circa 1892, when the EU was alive and well in the scientific mind....those were the days my friends. My how far we have come to such a dark matter.

When two wires, attached to the terminals of the coil, are set at the proper distance, the streams between them may be so intense as to produce a continuous luminous sheet. To show this phenomenon I have here two circles, C and c (Fig. 10), of rather stout wire, one being about 80 centimetres and the other 30 centimetres in diameter. To each of the terminals of the coil I attach one of the circles. The supporting wires are so bent that the circles may be placed in the same plane, coinciding as nearly as possible. When the light in the room is turned off and the coil set to work, you see the whole space between the wires uniformly filled with streams, forming a luminous disc, which could be seen from a considerable distance, such is the intensity of the streams. The outer circle could have been much larger than the present one; in fact, with this coil I have used much larger circles, and I have been able to produce a strongly luminous sheet, covering an area of more than one square metre, which is a remarkable effect with this very small coil. To avoid uncertainty, the circle has been taken smaller, and the area is now about 0.43 square metre.

The frequency of the vibration, and the quickness of succession of the sparks between the knobs, affect to a marked degree the appearance of the streams. When the frequency is very low, the air gives way in more or less the same manner, as by a steady difference of potential, and the streams consist of distinct threads, generally mingled with thin sparks, which probably correspond to the successive discharges occurring between the knobs. But when the frequency is extremely high, and the arc of the discharge produces a very loud but smooth sound—showing both that oscillation takes place and that the sparks succeed each other with great rapidity—then the luminous streams formed are perfectly uniform. To reach this result very small coils and jars of small capacity should be used. I take two tubes of thick Bohemian glass, about 5 centimetres in diameter and 20 centimetres long. In each of the tubes I slip a primary of very thick copper wire. On the top of each tube I wind a secondary of much thinner gutta-percha covered wire. The two secondaries I connect in series, the primaries preferably in multiple arc. The tubes are then placed in a large glass vessel, at a distance of l0 to 15 centimetres from each other, on insulating supports, and the vessel is filled with boiled out oil, the oil reaching about an inch above the tubes. The free ends of the secondary are lifted out of the oil and placed parallel to each other at a distance of about 10 centimetres. The ends which are scraped should be dipped in the oil. Two four-pint jars joined in series may be used to discharge through the primary. When the necessary adjustments in the length and distance of the wires above the oil and in the arc of discharge are made, a luminous sheet is produced between the wires, which is perfectly smooth and textureless, like the ordinary discharge through a moderately exhausted tube.

I have purposely dwelt upon this apparently insignificant experiment. In trials of this kind the experimenter arrives at the startling conclusion that, to pass ordinary luminous discharges through gases, no particular degree of exhaustion is needed, but that the gas may be at ordinary or even greater pressure. To accomplish this, a very high frequency is essential; a high potential is likewise required, but this is a merely incidental necessity. These experiments teach us that, in endeavoring to discover novel methods of producing light by the agitation of atoms, or molecules, of a gas, we need not limit our research to the vacuum tube, but may look forward quite seriously to the possibility of obtaining the light effects without the use of any vessel whatever, with air at ordinary pressure.

Such discharges of very high frequency, which render luminous the air at ordinary pressures, we have probably often occasion to witness in Nature. I have no doubt that if, as many believe, the aurora borealis is produced by sudden cosmic disturbances, such as eruptions at the sun's surface, which set the electrostatic charge of the earth in an extremely rapid vibration the red glow observed is not confined to the upper rarefied strata of the air, but the discharge traverses, by reason of its very high frequency, also the dense atmosphere in the form of a glow, such as we ordinarily produce in a slightly exhausted tube. If the frequency were very low or even more so, if the charge were not at all vibrating, the dense air would break down as in a lightning discharge. Indications of such breaking down of the lower dense strata of the air have been repeatedly observed at the occurrence of this marvelous phenomenon; but if it does occur; it can only be attributed to the fundamental disturbances, which are few in number, for the vibration produced by them would be far too rapid to allow a disruptive break. It is the original and irregular impulses which affect the instruments; the superimposed vibrations probably pass unnoticed.

When an ordinary low frequency discharge is passed through moderately rarefied air, the air assumes a purplish hue. If by some means or other we increase the intensity of the molecular, or atomic, vibration, the gas changes to a white color. A similar change occurs at ordinary pressures with electric impulses of very high frequency. If the molecules of the air around a wire are moderately agitated, the brush formed is reddish or violet; if the vibration is rendered sufficiently intense, the streams become white. We may accomplish this in various ways. In the experiment before shown with the two wires across the room, I have endeavored to secure the result by pushing to a high value both the frequency and potential; in the experiment with the thin wires glued on the rubber plate I have concentrated the action upon a very small surface—in other words, I have worked with a great electric density.


Here is a great talk with Eric Dollard on Tesla and longitutinal energy which he calls magneto-dielectric energy.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/73155/Eric-Do ... s-19861991

More Dollard Videos. Its really important to read his notes and to watch these videos in that new light. One wire transmission, longitutinal transmission, wireless transmission, magneto-dielectric fields demonstrated.

A Scalar Video with Longitudinal Light and its very different attributes compared to Hertzian 60Hz Light. Longitudinal Light shows the Impuse effects of the Tesla Scalar System. It has outward pressure on biological sytems and a blue tinge with attractive forces to metal! They say it resembles star light due to the outward pressure and attractive features to metal. Sounds like a good model of the EU Star Plasma Z Pinch having Scalar properties. They continue to show the different effects from vaccum tubes, plasma tubes, argon tube, as far as propagation methods of Longitudinal Waves. The same bulbs have totally different effects when they are powered by Longitudinal Waves. The difference which is quite startling compared to hertzian light from the same bulb.

TESLA’S LONGITUDINAL ELECTRICITY
A laboratory demonstration video with Eric P. Dollard & Peter Lindemann
If you’ve ever wondered if there is more to a Tesla coil than just making big sparks then watch this video. Borderland presents a series of experiments providing you with factual data on the reality of Tesla’s theories. You will see experiments on: The One-Wire Electrical Transmission System; The Wireless Power Transmission System; Transmission of Direct Current Through Space; and, a novel form of electric light which attracts material objects but repels a human hand! Also presented is a longitudinal broadcast from Borderland Labs to a nearby beach, using the ocean as an antenna. These experiments can be reproduced by any competent researcher, there are no secrets here! Today’s conceptions of a Tesla Coil provide the researcher with little practical material. Eric Dollard reintroduces the "pancake" Tesla Coils in a series of experiments taken directly from Tesla’s work. No modern interpretations needed, we went to the source — and it worked! Construction details are given. If you want to do some exciting, exploratory work into Tesla’s theories then this video will certainly give you a good start.
60 min,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0757457294


TRANSVERSE & LONGITUDINAL ELECTRIC WAVES
A laboratory demonstration with Eric P. Dollard
Eric demonstrates the reality of longitudinal waves and their application to the natural transmission of electricity. Analog computers (networks of coils and capacitors) are presented opening up an entire new field of electrical researches into the wave forms discovered and used by Tesla in his wireless power transmissions. You will experience the physical functions of the various waves via direct measurement inside the computer network. The Longitudinal Magneto-Dielectric wave is shown to have a propagating velocity greater than the speed of light! The transverse electromagnetic wave, (in present use) is shown to be a retarded, unnatural form of energy transmission. A Multi-Pactor Orgone Detector is demonstrated indicating a relationship between dielectricity and orgone. A competent researcher can duplicate the experiments on this video from the information given. Amaze your science teacher!
50 min,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0445596549


Some quotes I found on Eric Dollard

Those films are classics. Both of them were produced by Borderland Labs. Eric Dollard, Tom Brown and I were all present for both films. I did a number of the explanation sequences in the first film, but stayed behind the camera on the second film. We actually produced three other films. The very first one was titled "Free Energy Research" where we show an amazing array of experimental test set-ups, including my Parametric Transformer generator operating at 120% efficiency, and a variation of Bruce DePalma's N-Machine, producing AC with two brushes on the shaft.

The other two films were never released for sale, but captured some of the most astonishing demonstrations I have ever seen. I had access to the video camera, so I was the cameraman on all the films. One of the events that was filmed was an "open house" where we show many of the other local engineers and physicists in the Santa Barbara area some of Eric's demonstrations. That meeting included Eric Dollard, Bruce DePalma, Tom Brown, Myself, Ed Delvers, Mike Knox, Roger Modjeski, Geoff Cook, and others. When there are that many geniuses in the room, the conversation gets very interesting. The highlight of the afternoon was the demonstration of Eric's "flame speaker" were we played Bach Concertos from the RF discharge of one of his small Tesla Coils. The high fidelity music actually came from the RF spark. No physical speaker mechanisms we involved. When the music was off, the RF discharge made a slight hissing sound. But this was quickly overpowered by the extremely high fidelity music that filled the room when the RF signal was modulated by the audio. Eric's knowledge of Tesla and Radio systems was simply unsurpassed!! All of the equipment demonstrated that day was built by Eric with support from Borderland Labs. Todays "singing Tesla coils" don't use AM modulated RF but rather PWM modulated fixed frequency. In that regard Dollard's coil is significantly different.

First of all, I don't know if Eric's audio modulation was AM or PWM. He always drove his large Tesla Coils with vacuum triodes in a "push-pull" PWM mode. He certainly had the knowledge to do it either way. The RF carrier frequency was the resonant frequency of the coil, which usually fell just outside of the AM band, in this case just above 1.6mhz. You could easily pick up the music on a short-wave radio in the room, which we did, but the music sounded better coming directly from the flame. The fidelity of the sound above 5khz was as good as the finest tweeter speaker system ever made. The clarity was stunning.

The hiss of the discharge was probably below 3 db. It wasn't much. There were no visible changes to the electronic flame when the music was made louder or softer. The flame was about two inches tall and about one inch wide at the top.



As for the current where-abouts of Eric Dollard, I do not know. I have not seen him since 1992. He has done a few speaking engagements at the San Fransisco Tesla Society in the last few years, so I know he is out there somewhere.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable ... llard.html


Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc ... re=related

The history lesson is very important.
The history of transmission of wireless energy is also very important.
Clearly we have four types of radiation and induction.
1. Pure Electrostatic.
2. Pure Magnetic.
3. EM
4. Magnetic-Dielectric

The observation that Tesla had only his mind, copper wire and wood, is very true. What he did with just those three things, is beyond what anyone has done to date, save Dollard, who only followed in the footsteps of the master. No military surplus supply shop, no radio shack, nothing.
If he wanted to envision it, he could build it. He made his own vacuum tubes, everything.
But the majority of his wireless is nothing but copper wire with a spark gap apparatus, simple things.

Its clear that NO ONE does research into these areas. We take it for granted what RCA has sold us. I for one, am not buying it.


Here are three of the books recommended by Dollard. They are by a man named Charles Proteus Steinmetz, who was hired by Edison to learn all the Tesla patents and then that way they could over come them with slight alterations like Marconi did by changing the inductance and the antenna. Its a subject I remember well, transient phenomenon. Capacitance and Inductance and the impulse and transient phenomenon associated with them, especially in high frequency and high voltages are explored with sudden loss of input and then quick and massive recharge and discharge, over and over, which is what Tesla was working on.

Theory and Calculation of Alternating Current Phenomenon
http://www.archive.org/stream/theorycal ... 5/mode/2up

Want to see how a capacitor really works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg
MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor

Published 1900

Theory and Calculation of Transient Electric Phenomenon and Oscillations
http://www.archive.org/stream/theoryandcalcul11steigoog
Published in 1920

Electric Waves, Discharges, Impulses
http://www.archive.org/stream/elementar ... 4/mode/2up
Published in 1911,

Was not my intention to high jack this thread. Just thought it was relevant.

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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby Deborah000 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:48 pm

Telsa is a name that I have heard often, coming from my brother who is a chemical engineer. He was very impressed with Telsa's work especially in the field of alternative energy.

It is a shame that the world has been robbed of Telsa's energy models to date, but hopefully the future will embrace his ideas.
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Re: Exciting alt-Energy breakthrough...and a BIG dilemma

Postby JohnnyL » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:25 am

Well, looks like this is all still public and in the eye of everyone who would want it nixed...

Well, there are places like kickstarter.com, etc. where you can get donations for your project (usually very minor but multiple angel investors).

If you want, you can also set up escrow funding of some sort--where it's put in, but not taken until proven.

(Seriously, BrianM, would you mind moving this to the Private Conversation area?)
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