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SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:So in talking to my sister-in-law (my brothers wife) about our lives, she informed me that it's really bad down here and how many poeple in Utah, LDS people mind you, were getting boob jobs. What strikes me is how many of the poeple we have heard about did so while serving in Young Womens as leaders. What is it about these young women that we are so envious of, not their innocence and purity, but their boobs. What have we become? What has become of the daughters of Zion?
DrJones wrote:I understand that plastic surgery is HUGE thriving business along the Wasatch front in Utah. Hadn't heard that this extended to Young Women though... sad, IMO.
Obviously I fault your husband for making you feel anything less than beautiful and loved, and for lusting after other women, but I think that you are falling for the lie that beauty and companionship/desire/love are synonymous. And you acted on that basis by trying to compete in an area that is not exclusive to celestial covenant love (beauty). Can you love an ugly person/child as much as a pretty one? Your actions affirm that no, you cannot love them as much and that desire is based on beauty alone.I guess sometimes it can be hard to feel of worth when you've had 5 children and anything you had there is gone and your husband is looking at other womens chests in magazines or on the internet.
JulesGP wrote:As a side note, I find it interesting that there are those who criticize decisions to have cosmetic surgery, but nobody seems to criticize breast REDUCTIONS, or spending thousands of dollars on orthodontics for cosmetically beautiful teeth, or having a huge ugly mole removed from the middle of someone's face, or when women have facial hair removed, or other smaller things we (both men and women) do every day in the name of vanity, like teeth whitening procedures, shaving, acrylic nails, hair coloring.... etc... etc... etc...
Nan wrote:The ones I know who are LDS and got new boobs did it because their husbands asked them too. I think if you did a study of the rise in pornography and the rise in plastic surgery you might find a match.
SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:Actually I think we can judge the sin but not the sinner and I have a pretty good track record on the list of vane things.
I'm not a big fan of make-up or any of the foolish traditions that make the righteous stand out like sore thumbs.
But for the record how do we choose our friends wisely if we can't judge?
AGalagaChiasmus wrote:Wow, this really is a Utah issue. Not to make light of it, but I'm with the others in observing that outside of Utah, boob jobs are universally frowned upon in the Church, placed up there with tattoos and nose piercings.
Fiannan wrote:It has been shown over and over again that attractive people get more promotions at work, are trusted more and get more pay raises. Sometimes elective surgery can be an investment.
Vanity is wrong so if it's vanity then it's wrong. Did I miss something?So where do you draw the line, as Jules pointed out--braces, make up, curling hair, exercising for vain reasons?
Mahonri wrote:this was an issue in every state I have lived in, NOT just UT.
the yw leaders are often (in the wards I have been in) as mature or less than the kids they are in charhe of.
one of over a dozen reasons my kids aren't in any of those programs
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