We have many LDS friends in other countries who have been watching the campaigning and asking me questions about Romney's chances of getting the nomination. The other day I composed and sent this reply.
I and many other LDSs consider Mitt Romney a poor second choice for President. Please read what I have taken the trouble to write and paste here, and share it with any one who has even half an interest in Mitt Romney becoming our next president.
It has been stated to the effect that: "Even if you disagree with some of Romney's political positions, consider what it would mean to America’s youth and future if someone of his competence, principles and character occupied the Oval Office." Principles and character ? - Hogwash.
1.) Yes, he believes in God. But.... Perhaps Mitt Romney's greatest error, at least in the eyes of concerned Latter day Saints, was or should be, his statement that "I don't know that he (God) has spoken to anyone since Moses and the bush or perhaps some others."
http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story.as ... 018d03bf31
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A comment by presidential hopeful Mitt Romney is raising some eyebrows here in Utah.
Romney was asked about God and, in essence, whether God speaks to him or to LDS Church leaders.
This interview between Romney and a Boston TV station aired in early December.
His comments about the LDS Church didn't cause too much of a ripple back east.
But here in Utah, they seem to raise questions about his view of how the LDS Church was founded.
In a lengthy interview with one of Boston's most prominent journalists, Mitt Romney was asked the following:
"Should God speak to you and ask you to do something that might be in conflict with your duties as president or should he speak to your Prophet who would speak to you - how would you make that decision, how would you handle that?
To which Romney responded: "I don't recall God speaking to me. I don't know that he has spoken to anyone since Moses and the bush or perhaps some others."
But this answer appears to contradict one of the foundations of the LDS church.
In the Church's First Vision, a young Joseph Smith is visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ.
Smith hears one of them say, "This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!"
And if, as Romney suggests, that God hasn't spoken to anyone for thousands of years, then what happens to the LDS Church's belief in direct revelation from God to the Church's prophets?
Revelations such as the one in 1978 that blacks could hold the priesthood.
Contacted by ABC 4 News, Romney's campaign issued the following statement:
"Governor Romney is very proud of his faith and he endeavors to live by it."
We also asked the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for a comment about Romney's statement.
But the Church politely declined our request."
End of news article. The Salt Lake Tribune published a similar story on this.
Consider what it would mean to LDS youth if they heard him say that "I don't know that he [God] has spoken to anyone since Moses and the bush or perhaps some others." If a Church General Authority ever made a public statement like that.....or even a missionary in a street meeting.....
2.) This article by an LDS investigative reporter, and similar reports in the media, should cause one to question:
Just what is "Romney - Hero or Bum? " Please read the whole article.
http://www.massnews.com/2002_editions/0 ... mney.shtml
We received this story from Utah in early April but thought we should wait and see. We now believe it should be run at this time.
Romney, the 'Cover-the-Road' Politician
Will conservatives support his stands on abortion and homosexual Scout leaders?
David M. Bresnahan is an award-winning investigative journalist and author who lives in Utah, is LDS, and was formerly with WorldNetDaily.
By David M. Bresnahan
June 18, 2002
Mitt Romney has enthusiastic support from the people of Massachusetts in his race for governor of the Bay State, but has he turned his back on the values and beliefs of his church for political gain?
Some have called him a moderate, or middle-of-the road politician. In reality Romney has practiced a "cover-the-road" method of winning support from everyone by giving answers that please many on both sides of the issues.
Romney's had a choice of returning to Massachusetts to pursue elected office there, or to take advantage of his presence in Utah. He is a member of the predominant Utah faith, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and he is at the peak of his public acclaim as the savior of the 2002 Olympic Games. It would at first glance seem to be an ideal time to pursue a political career in Utah.
The actual choice was made over three years ago when he accepted the challenge to save the Olympic Games. Some of his closest supporters at that time made it clear he would return to Massachusetts and would never run for office in Utah. Even one of his detractors made the same claim at that time. It is now obvious that they all knew what they were talking about.
Never Win in Utah
Romney knew then that he could never win a campaign for any office in Utah, where 73 percent of the people are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and have very strong family values. There is no compromise on issues such as abortion and homosexuality for the vast majority of voters, which is the reason Romney knew he could never win an election in Utah.
Utahns believe that abortion on demand is always wrong, and that it is only to be considered if the life of the mother is at stake. Even then, many would choose sacrifice if it would save the life of the child. Homosexuality is considered to be a sin, and the LDS people of Utah believe they should love the sinner and hate the sin.
Romney is a member of the very small minority in his church who oppose these teachings. He takes a different stand on both issues. He knows he would fight a constant battle explaining his politically motivated positions if he stayed in Utah. He does not want moral values to the be focus of any campaign.
Romney is a master politician and public relations expert. He was asked to speak to a luncheon gathering of LDS public relations people who were preparing more than a year in advance of the Olympic Games for handling the anticipated requests for information they expected would come from the media of the world. Romney spoke about his public relations manipulations during his 1994 U.S. Senate campaign against Sen. Ted Kennedy.
Romney was candid about the methods he and his staff used to shape the views and thinking of the people, but he was defeated by his own faux pas and by the master manipulator, Kennedy. When he finished his presentation he excused himself from lunch and departed. The next speaker was Elder Henry B. Eyring of the LDS Church Twelve Apostles.
Eyring made it clear, in a very nice way, that the methods described by Romney were not the methods to be used by the LDS Church Olympic volunteers gathered in the room. He wanted to be sure those present were not thinking that Romney was delivering a message on how the Church should manipulate the media of the world. Indeed, those volunteers, and many hundreds more, ultimately served the needs of 1,333 members of the world media who came to the News Resource Center of the Church during the 2002 Winter Olympics. That was done without using the tricks described by Romney to manipulate the press and the public.
Members of the media were simply given the information and materials they asked for so they could file their stories. There was no effort to manipulate those stories by the public affairs volunteers.
Dances Around Issues
Romney has been carefully trying to dance around the many statements he has made regarding the issues of abortion and homosexual leaders of the Boy Scouts. His comments have often changed based on the audience of the moment.
What he cannot escape are the responses he made on those issues at an October 25, 1994 candidate debate between himself and Kennedy. He was clear and to the point. His answers were surprising, considering that he has been a prominent leader within the LDS Church in Massachusetts and he has been on the Board of Directors of the Boy Scouts of America.
Romney said that he is in favor of homosexual leaders for the Boy Scouts, and he believes every woman should have a right to chose whether or not to have an abortion.
During the debate, Sally Jacobs of the Boston Globe asked: "Mr. Romney, you personally oppose abortion and as a church leader have advised women not to have an abortion. Given that, how could you in good conscience support a law that enables women to have an abortion, and even lets the government pay for it? If abortion is morally wrong, aren't you responsible for discouraging it?"
Romney tried to please both sides with his answer, stating that he has strong personal beliefs, but adding that he doesn't want to impose his beliefs on others. So he is pro-choice but doesn't use those words to describe his stand.
"One of the great things about our nation, Sally, is that we're each entitled to have strong, personal beliefs. And we encourage other people to do the same. But, as a nation, we recognize the right of all people to believe as they want and not to impose our beliefs on other people. I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Row v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, we should sustain and support it. I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. And my personal beliefs, like the personal beliefs of other people, should not be brought into a political campaign," said Romney.
Homosexual Leaders for Scouts
During the same debate he was also asked a very direct question about whether he supports having homosexual leaders for the Boy Scouts. His church sponsors more Boy Scout units than any other sponsoring group in the nation, and his church leaders have stated that they will drop their sponsorship if the Boy Scouts accept homosexuals as leaders.
Tovia Smith of Boston University radio station WBUR asked: "Mr. Romney, you say you're a moderate on social issues. One who will defend abortion rights, equal rights for women, for blacks, and for gays. In fact you say you will do more to promote gay rights than Senator Kennedy. You also sit on the national executive board of the Boy Scouts of America, which has an exclusionary policy banning gay members. Do you support that policy, and if not have you ever done anything as a board member to oppose it?"
Again, Romney tried to answer in a way that would please the vast majority of listeners. He didn't take the middle of the road, but instead tried to cover the entire road by the very nature of his response.
"I have let my views be known," said Romney. "I have been to one board meeting now of the Boy Scouts of America board (as of 1994). I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation."
It was that last statement that would come back to haunt him time and time again. Romney believes that "all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation."
That is a view which is in direct opposition to his church and to the BSA national policy. Romney showed his colors during the Olympics when he made it clear that the Boy Scouts would not be a part of the Olympics as they had traditionally been throughout modern Olympic history. There would be no Scouts in uniform for the public or press to see. Romney wanted no complaints from the homosexual community or the world press.
In every past Olympics, regardless of host country, the local Scouts have participated in some way -- in uniform. In fact, some of the past Olympics even used Scouts in uniform to present the awards to the Olympians.
However, Romney had no problem with including homosexuals as part of the Olympic Games. In fact, he went out of his way to include them in a way that would gain him significant support from that constituency. Remember, Romney knew three years ago that he would return to Massachusetts after the Olympics.
Hid Scouts from View
Romney was very careful to eliminate the Boy Scouts from view. He appeased them by permitting Scouts to perform litter cleanup of Olympic sites before the Games began, and to help with putting up and taking down of security fences. All out of view of the public and the media. He also very cleverly made sure the homosexual activist community were invited to participate in the Olympics in a meaningful way that they would brag about.
The homosexual website Gay.com from the United Kingdom did that very thing on January 30, just before the games began. An article read by homosexuals all over the world proclaimed: "Winter Olympics First To Welcome Gays."
"The Winter Games in Salt Lake City, Utah, next month will be the first to open its arms to the gay community. Organisers [sic] of the 2002 Winter Olympics have actively gone out to get the gay community involved. The Salt Lake Olympic Organising [sic] Committee (SLOC) invited two members of the community, Michael Marriott and Laura Milliken Gray to the group's 'Volunteer Work Group' to get gays involved.," the article reported.
The story went on to quote homosexual Olympic volunteers about what a very positive experience they were having, and the involvement of the homosexual community.
"Gay men and lesbians are volunteering their time at the games, opening their homes for the families and partners of Olympic athletes, and are serving on a SLOC committee. Our community has arrived and has taken its place at the table," Marriott told the website reporter.
Romney's campaign in Massachusetts was carefully planned and orchestrated from the beginning of his work in Utah three years ago. Romney knew exactly what he was doing, and his entire campaign will be a masterful political triumph.
Everything needed for victory is in place. Support from key constituent groups who have tremendous ability and power to get their people out to vote, along with vital financial donors are all lined up and ready to go -- with enthusiasm.
No promises were made during the Olympics by anyone. Romney is far too clever for that. He knows that if he makes friends those friends can then be called on when the time comes. And now the time has come. Calls and personal visits are being made to ensure those friends are now his political supporters.
It is likely that the majority of Christians of all denominations, including the LDS faith, will vote for Romney at the polls. It is likely conservatives will embrace him. Everyone loves a winner, and many will put their arms around him as he continues to manipulate with his Clinton-like "cover-the-road" politics. He has charmed and will continue to charm the voters of the state.
More importantly, Romney has won over the press. They are always ready to pounce if he slips and falls, but unless that happens he will most certainly be the next Governor of the Commonwealth.
An archive of Bresnahan's work can be found at http://InvestigativeJournal.com
, and he can be contacted at David@InvestigativeJournal.com
Consider what it would mean to LDS youth if they knew of his past support for homosexual agendas and gay scout leaders.
3.) Romney has expressed and demonstrated disdain for the US Constitution.
While Governor of Massachusetts, he proposed and initiated a state mandatory health care program that deprives citizens of their agency in deciding whether to participate or not. The plan is just plain Socialist. This program requires use of tax money taken from citizens to pay for helath care of others. Ezra Taft Benson used to call that "legalized plunder". Mandatory insurance is particularly unjust to those who don't want it, such as those who use alternative medicine, and because it forces them to pay for the medical needs of others. (Ref. http://www.zionsbest.com/proper_role.html
, "The Proper Role of Government." by Ezra Taft Benson)
Perhaps the most egregious statement Romney made was his answer to a question about the president seeking authorization from Congress to attack Iran. He responded: "You sit down with your attorneys and [they] tell you what you have to do, but obviously the president of the United States has to do what's in the best interest of the United States to protect us against a potential threat. The president did that as he was planning on moving into Iraq and received the authorization of Congress." WRONG! In a serious violation of the US Constitution, the Congress has abrogated its responsibility and allowed the president to make that decision. When Romney was asked if he needed authorization from Congress, Mr. Romney replied: "You know, we're going to let the lawyers sort out what he needed to do and what he didn't need to do." WRONG AGAIN ! The US Congress and only the US Congress has the responsibility to declare war under the US Constitution, not the president, with or without input from lawyers. The idea of going and talking to attorneys shows either ignorance of or disdain for the US Constutiton. He needs to just open up the Constitution and read it?!! The president is not allowed to go to war without a declaration of war by the US Congress.
His statement to the effect that the US President should consult with lawyers before going to war shows ignorance or disdain for the very clear requirement in the US Constitution that it is the job of the Congress to vote on and delcare war.
Unfortunately, probably at least 90% of American LDS voters haven't a clue about these things themselves. They seem to think that because he believes in God and has held responsible positons in the Church and in the business world that he is God's gift to the USA.
What we need in the White House is a president who will do his level best to get the USA back onto the "constitution track", as Cleon Skousen used to call it. Our FedGov is not a business. It is an enforcement agency, established under the direction of the Lord, which He "suffered to be established, and should be maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles" for the purpose of "...supporting that principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges, [and] belongs to all mankind, and is justifiable before me.". and justifies us "in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land;"
For what it's worth, a while back I asked a son of Cleon Skousen who he thought his father would vote for if he were still alive. Without hesitation he replied "Ron Paul". During that "debate" in which Romney "forgot" about the responsibility of Congress to declare war, Ron Paul spoke up and told him that one opens the Constitution and reads it and does what it says....that it is the job of Congress to decide on and declare war, not the presidents.
If Mitt Romney were to get the republican nomination, I and many other LDSs will vote for the Constitution Party or the Libertarian Party candidate. Romney will not get my votes, short of personal revelation from the Lord.