Repentance vs Constitutional Issues

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People of couse believe truth individually. As talk with people about the gospel, I find that a majority of people individually believe in many true principals even if their denomination or non-denomination church may not exactly hold or teach that same view.

This post is not focused on trying to throw cold water on individual lds members responsibity to be politically active. This post is more focused on explaining why LDS leadership may not seem as outspoken against US government corruption as Pres. Benson or Pres J Ruben Clark were.

Which Constitutional issue do you think we should ger behind to defend first. Satans strategy is divide and conquer. He is hitting at so many fronts, it would be difficult to get people unified against any one issue. College Students are protesting wallstreet right now, do you think it's our responsibility to be blocking traffic on the Brooklyn bridge right now?

Americas only hope is a push to return to virtue and traditional values. Only when the American people can learn to control their appetites and behavior will the principles of "self-government" become "self-evident" again. For people who cannot exercise self restraint, they need government to hold their hand.

Self-governent, self-restraint, and virtue is the most fundamental Constitutional issue of all. This is the most important issue we should become unified behind.

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Who was it, then, that said the Constitution was made only for a righteous people and is no good for any other ?

LDS leadership is clearly not outspoken against US government corruption as Pres. Benson or Pres J. Ruben Clark were. I believe the reason is concern about likely retribution from the latter-day gadiantons, or those murderous combination that have gotten above us. If I understand John the Revelator correctly, that's gonna happen anyway as the "beast" makes war with the Saints and overcomes them. I believe a turn about to greatly increased righteousness could avert much or most of the prophecied agony, but I haven't faith in it happening.

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1Tim 1:9. Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Constitution = Self government

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and righteous people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other."

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-John Adams

We are not supposed to have lots of little laws for this and that. If we have injured another party. We are supposed to be judged by a jury of our peers according to Natural Law = Golden Rule.

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davedan wrote:-John Adams

We are not supposed to have lots of little laws for this and that. If we have injured another party. We are supposed to be judged by a jury of our peers according to Natural Law = Golden Rule.
...long dead!

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lundbaek wrote:Who was it, then, that said the Constitution was made only for a righteous people and is no good for any other ?
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams

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So, if we just got back to living the 10 commandments (if we were even ever there) all would at least begin to straighten itself out?

*Somebody recently figured out that we have 35 million laws to enforce the ten commandments." -Bert Masterson

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