Michelle Bachmann a presidential candidate

[lundbaekcaptain of 1,000]

At this point I know next to nothing about Michelle Bachmann other than that she is a member of the House Financial Services Committee, and has reportedly been big on financial reform and reducing federal spending. I am posting this for consideration only, and hoping some of you will know more about her.

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When asked whether the Iowa trip was a signal Bachmann intended to run for president, her chief of staff Andy Parrish told the network, "Nothing is off the table."

"If I felt that's what the Lord was calling me to do, I would do it," she answered. "When I have sensed that the Lord is calling me to do something, I've said yes to it. But I will not seek a higher office if God is not calling me to do it. That's really my standard.

"If I am called to serve in that realm I would serve," she concluded, "but if I am not called, I wouldn't do it."

Radio host Glenn Beck reacted enthusiastically this morning about the possibility of a Bachmann bid for the White House, telling his audience, "I would vote for her in a heartbeat." "I was wondering when somebody was going to start talking about Michele Bachmann as president of the United States. I've been surprised that it's lasted this long before somebody has said something about it. I think she not only gets it, she is somebody who knows who she is, knows what her values are, and I pray to God that she never violates them. I don't think she will. I'm a big fan of Michele Bachmann. Bring it on, Madam President."

[Servantcaptain of 50]

She would be a good one from all I can tell. I have watched her for more than a year on interviews and with the Tea Party movement and all signs point to her being very articulate and spot on with most issues. The other thing is the left hates her. Saw Meridith Vierra (sp?) interview her last week and it was filled with nothing short of contempt and vile hate coming from Vierra. That generally means this is a person that I will agree with on fundamental issues. I am sure the left also hates her because she is attractive.

[Teancumcaptain of 100]

Bachmann is a typical neoconservative on foreign policy issues. I would not support her.

She advocated an attack on Iran: http://minnesotaindependent.com/74387/bachmann-on-iran-u-s-needs-to-do-more-than-talk

She flip-flopped on the Patriot Act: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/6273-tea-party-flexes-its-clout-on-the-patriot-act

[Mummycaptain of 1,000]

Bachmann is a typical neoconservative on foreign policy issues. I would not support her.

She advocated an attack on Iran: http://minnesotaindependent.com/74387/bachmann-on-iran-u-s-needs-to-do-more-than-talk

She flip-flopped on the Patriot Act: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/6273-tea-party-flexes-its-clout-on-the-patriot-act

2nd that.....not surprised to see the option of running as she is "far right" and would do an awesome job of keeping the polarization game alive in the left vs. right facade!

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Bachmann is a typical neoconservative on foreign policy issues. I would not support her.

She advocated an attack on Iran: http://minnesotaindependent.com/74387/bachmann-on-iran-u-s-needs-to-do-more-than-talk

She flip-flopped on the Patriot Act: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/6273-tea-party-flexes-its-clout-on-the-patriot-act

2nd that.....not surprised to see the option of running as she is "far right" and would do an awesome job of keeping the polarization game alive in the left vs. right facade!

Who would be a better option (Ron Paul doesn't count 'cause he can't win)?

[iamse7encaptain of 1,000]

I don't know much about her, other than I've seen her on Freedom Watch a few times. From my little research, I couldn't support her because of her neocon leanings:

Negatives:
Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)
YES to Sanctions on Iran to end nuclear program. (Apr 2009)
Patriot Act flip flop

Positives:
Global warming is a hoax, NO to several different energy subsidies
Eventually voted no on patriot act
YES to audit Fed
Opposed both versions of bailout

She's clearly much better than a lot of other people, but she hasn't shown me anything that makes me think she would fight against the military-industrial complex, plus she doesn't go far enough in opposing the banking cartel. She most likely would end up being another puppet. Not many wouldn't be puppets, though.

[pjbrowniecaptain of 1,000]

She is the only one, in my opinion, that reflects the views of the Ron Paul wing as much as she can without alienating the views of mainstream conservatives. You're not going to get someone who is a total dove on foreign policy.

And she flip flopped on the Patriot Act. I did too. Maybe she's "awake" now. Sure seems like it to me.

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

She isn't my first choice, but if I heeded Bob's call not to vote for a "potted plant", she would definitely be higher on my list than Palin or Romney.

[SempiternalHarbingercaptain of 1,000]

Right before the mid term elections last year I started becoming a fan of Michele Bachmann. But not anymore and here is why; To my disappointment I have learned she is just like every other Republican. She says all the right things to the right crowd, but aren’t really committed to doing the right things at the right times. In other words, doing whatever it takes to stop unconstitutional legislation. For example, Michele Bachman can take a very strong stand and even vote against Obamacare. But when you’re in the minority and the majority is voting as a bloc your nay vote becomes inconsequential.

During the mid term Michele Bachmann laid it out perfectly what need to be done to stop Obama care. She promised many times that if we wanted to stop Obama care all we would need to do is make sure the republicans won the house back so they could defund it. The house has that power. That’s all she would say, Thats what most republicans were saying, we will defund it and end Obama care. But than something very interesting happened, the republicans won the house back and had a majority vote. At this time as Michele Bachmann stated, the republicans had the power to stop Obama Care, and all they had to do is defund it. But they didn’t. In fact after the republicans won the house back you never heard Michele Bachmann or any other republican ever even say the word defund again. They completely changed their tune. Instead of defunding, which they could have and should have, the decided they wanted to repeal it. Problem is, there is no way Obama care will ever get repealed. Its basically impossible. Even if they got the votes in the Senate, Obama has his veto power. After Obama Vetoes it, it would go back to the senate and eventually end up in the supreme court. I for one don’t trust the supreme court and if for some reason they voted in favor of Obama care it would become the Law of the land never being able to be overturned again. So why did Michele Bachman completely change her tune after the mid terms? She knew and the House of Representatives knew what needed to be done to stop Obama care in it's tracks but didn’t. It wish It wasn’t true but Michele Bachman is just like the rest of these life long politicians. On the outside she says all the right things but she when it comes down to it is ignores her conscience.

This is one example on a long list of things. She has always followed this pattern. Satan says money can buy anything in this world. What wins elections? I just hope there is someone out there who has not been corrupted or influenced by this cartel, who will take a stand against this machine. Someone who loves this country and will do anything to protect it and will uphold their oath of office. Its amazing how all the news media are reporting that if the elections were to be held today there is not republican who beat Obama. How is that even possible? Obama has been a disaster, you would think Joe the plumber could beat Obama. We just keep throwing the wost people to represent us. But than again Bush jr got re elected which I thought was an impossibility.

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Bachmann is a typical neoconservative on foreign policy issues. I would not support her.

She advocated an attack on Iran: http://minnesotaindependent.com/74387/bachmann-on-iran-u-s-needs-to-do-more-than-talk

She flip-flopped on the Patriot Act: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/6273-tea-party-flexes-its-clout-on-the-patriot-act

2nd that.....not surprised to see the option of running as she is "far right" and would do an awesome job of keeping the polarization game alive in the left vs. right facade!

Who would be a better option (Ron Paul doesn't count 'cause he can't win)?

As republicans go Ron Paul is the only option for me. You have to go outside of the big two parties if you want someone who is a passionate Constitutionalist. Most of my family and friends do not care about that though and rather vote for evil if it means they can vote for a person that can win.

[JasonI am a nobody!]

Right before the mid term elections last year I started becoming a fan of Michele Bachmann. But not anymore and here is why; To my disappointment I have learned she is just like every other Republican. She says all the right things to the right crowd, but aren’t really committed to doing the right things at the right times. In other words, doing whatever it takes to stop unconstitutional legislation. For example, Michele Bachman can take a very strong stand and even vote against Obamacare. But when you’re in the minority and the majority is voting as a bloc your nay vote becomes inconsequential.

During the mid term Michele Bachmann laid it out perfectly what need to be done to stop Obama care. She promised many times that if we wanted to stop Obama care all we would need to do is make sure the republicans won the house back so they could defund it. The house has that power. That’s all she would say, Thats what most republicans were saying, we will defund it and end Obama care. But than something very interesting happened, the republicans won the house back and had a majority vote. At this time as Michele Bachmann stated, the republicans had the power to stop Obama Care, and all they had to do is defund it. But they didn’t. In fact after the republicans won the house back you never heard Michele Bachmann or any other republican ever even say the word defund again. They completely changed their tune. Instead of defunding, which they could have and should have, the decided they wanted to repeal it. Problem is, there is no way Obama care will ever get repealed. Its basically impossible. Even if they got the votes in the Senate, Obama has his veto power. After Obama Vetoes it, it would go back to the senate and eventually end up in the supreme court. I for one don’t trust the supreme court and if for some reason they voted in favor of Obama care it would become the Law of the land never being able to be overturned again. So why did Michele Bachman completely change her tune after the mid terms? She knew and the House of Representatives knew what needed to be done to stop Obama care in it's tracks but didn’t. It wish It wasn’t true but Michele Bachman is just like the rest of these life long politicians. On the outside she says all the right things but she when it comes down to it is ignores her conscience.

This is one example on a long list of things. She has always followed this pattern. Satan says money can buy anything in this world. What wins elections? I just hope there is someone out there who has not been corrupted or influenced by this cartel, who will take a stand against this machine. Someone who loves this country and will do anything to protect it and will uphold their oath of office. Its amazing how all the news media are reporting that if the elections were to be held today there is not republican who beat Obama. How is that even possible? Obama has been a disaster, you would think Joe the plumber could beat Obama. We just keep throwing the wost people to represent us. But than again Bush jr got re elected which I thought was an impossibility.

We need leaders and not politicians!

Only two votes that matter on the national level are ES&S and DVS! Locally the odds of making a difference are a little higher.....and imo should be pursued with priority!

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Bachmann: America ‘Cursed’ By God ‘If We Reject Israel’

By Andy Birkey

February 08, 2011 "Minnesota Independent" -- At a Republican Jewish Coalition event in Los Angeles last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann offered a candid view of her positions on Israel: Support for Israel is handed down by God and if the United States pulls back its support, America will cease to exist.
The Republican Jewish Coalition is the same organization that recently hired former Sen. Norm Coleman. Bachmann’s appearance on Feb.1 is part of a whirlwind of national events for Bachmann in February. Next up: she’s keynoting the Take Back Washington North Dakota event in Bismarck this Friday night.

Here’s a transcript of some of her remarks at the RJC event:

I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States . . . [W]e have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play. And my husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel. It is a strong and beautiful principle.

Right now in my own private Bible time, I am working through Isaiah . . . and there is continually a coming back to what God gave to Israel initially, which was the Torah and the Ten Commandments, and I have a wonderful quote from John Adams that if you will indulge me [while I find it] . . . [from his February 16, 1809 letter to François Adriaan van der Kemp]:

I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations. If I were an atheist of the other sect, who believe or pretend to believe that all is ordered by chance, I should believe that chance had ordered the Jews to preserve and propagate to all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise, almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be the great essential principle of all morality, and consequently of all civilization.

. . . So that is a very long way to answer your question, but I believe that an explicit statement from us about our support for Israel as tied to American security, we would do well to do that.

This land is already "cursed". Acts like these do not help our cause either.



No wonder this land is cursed we have representatives like Jason Chaffetz supporting troops following unconstitutional orders:



It all begins in the hearts of the people:

Wherefore, this land is consecrated unto him whom he shall bring. And if it so be that they shall serve him according to the commandments which he hath given, it shall be a land of liberty unto them; wherefore, they shall never be brought down into captivity; if so, it shall be because of iniquity; for if iniquity shall abound cursed shall be the land for their sakes, but unto the righteous it shall be blessed forever. ~2 Nephi 1:7

I like this advice. This is what we need to do more than any else:

Knowing all that we know that the State of Isreal was contrived by evil conspiring gadiantons in these last days....thus, the question remains. Whom or What shall we support? The fall of the State of Isreal or Not???? Considering, how close the Church and it's membership are to the Jews, it's very hard to pick a side to support.

Why do you have to pick a side to support? Just stick with Christ and building up the Kingdom of God... and if you happen to befriend or associate with a Jew or others, invite them in to the fold.

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Bachmann on Patriot Act... MEH.

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She won't get my vote....

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Tea party problems: Low attendance, credibility problems plague Bachmann, T-Paw

Last weekend’s Tax Day Tea Party rallies in Iowa and South Carolina featured Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann, respectively, and by all accounts, attendance at the events was off. Bachmann carries the tea party mantle, although some activists resent her de facto leadership title, while Pawlenty is having trouble garnering the support of tea partiers even at his own events.

In Iowa, Pawlenty and fellow presidential contender Herman Cain greeted about 200 tea party supporters in Des Moines at a Saturday, Apr. 16 Tax Day gathering of tea partiers, according to the Associated Press. Last year, the rally drew an estimated 2,000. Last weekend’s event was chilly, windy and wet, which may have hampered attendance.

The Union Leader put Pawlenty’s April 15 Tax Day Tea Party rally in Concord, N.H., on Friday at about 300 people, which is in line with 2010 when the Boston Herald put the number at “hundreds.”

Also on Friday, Pawlenty drew about 300 tea partiers to the Boston Commons. Last year’s event with Sarah Palin drew more than 3,000.

Bachmann drew a similarly small crowd at an appearance in Columbia, South Carolina, at a Monday afternoon Tax Day event for tea partiers. CBS News put the crowd at about 300.

Will Forks, a prominent South Carolina blogger wrote, “Only 300 people (including a horde of Palmetto political operatives) attended the event in downtown Columbia, S.C. – which is a generous estimate in our book. That attendance figure – confirmed by other media outlets – amounts to less than one-tenth the size of multiple crowds that have gathered at the S.C. State House in recent years in support of parental choice.”

He added, “It’s also roughly a tenth the size of the crowd that attended this same event in 2009.”

That blog post allegedly drew fire from Bachmann’s people, which prompted a terse response from Forks on Twitter:

“@michelebachmann’s people are pissed at me for not showing her any love. awwww. puddin. draw more than 300 people next time”

The low attendance at the Pawlenty and Bachmann events mirrors a national trend over the Tax Day weekend. Rallies across the country saw significant drops in tea pary attendance.

While Bachmann and Pawlenty failed to draw large crowds of tea partiers, they are also facing some grumbling from tea party leaders.

Bachmann’s co-opting of the tea party name for her potential presidential campaign isn’t sitting well with some locals. In January, the Tea Party Patriots of the Twin Cities sent out a statement saying, “Please call Michele Bachmann’s Office and tell her that she does not speak for the Tea Party. Michele has announced she will be giving the ‘Tea Party Response’ to the President’s State of the Union Address. The Tea Party Patriots Organization is a grass roots organization. One person has no right to speak for the whole organization.”

And just before Bachmann’s appearance in South Carolina, the Original Tea Party of Minnesota sent out a message stating, “If the tea party is just the GOP, it is like a one legged dog! Don’t let the GOP continue to cut off the legs of this old dog! The tea party was supposed to be NON PARTISAN and for the PEOPLE! Not for Michele Bachmann and the GOP to use as a vessel for their candidacies! Is your tea party a ONE LEGGED DOG?”

Pawlenty has had his own tea party problems. The New Hampshire Tea Party Coalition recently criticized Pawlenty over the International Baccalaureate program in some Minnesota schools. Some tea partiers view I.B. as an extension of the United Nations, which they say is eroding U.S. sovereignty.

“Treacherous or clueless, his lack of understanding of this program run by the UN and designed to promote ‘world government’ to our students, will likely be fatal to him in the primary,” the group wrote on its blog.

As the National Review noted at Pawlenty’s Tea Party appearance in Boston, he has lukewarm support from tea party activists.

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Bachmann’s Prayers Answered: ‘I’ve Had That Calling’ To Run For President

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) appears to be inching ever closer to a run for president -- and as she has now said in her latest public statements, her prayers on the subject have now yielded a calling from God himself.

In an interview with Iowa Public Television, broadcast on Friday:

Henderson: You recently referenced your Christian faith. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, when he announced he would not run, said that he just didn't feel called to do that. Have you had that sort of calling to run for president?

Bachmann: Well, every decision that I make I pray about as does my husband and I can tell you, yes, I've had that calling and that tugging on my heart that this is the right thing to do and because it's such a momentous decision, not only for myself, my husband and our 28 children, it is a momentous decision what ideas will I bring to bear? What are the resources that I have to marshal in terms of people, assets, the message and also the finances, the amount of time this will take, what this will mean for the nation. Am I the right person for the job? Every decision and every endeavor my husband and I have made we think it through, we're not rash people. We make a plan because we want to succeed, we don't want to fail and so we've been very deliberative in this process and that's why we're now coming to the culmination and next month, as I announced last night, I'll make that decision right here in Waterloo and the world will know.

[Note: Bachmann has had five biological children, and a total of 23 foster children over a span of many years.]

Bachmann has previously said she was praying for an "inner assurance" about her 2012 decision. It should be pointed out that for Bachmann, this stuff about receiving a divine calling to run for office is no joke -- it has allegedly happened before.

The last time Bachmann sought a higher national office, in 2006, when she was a state senator running for an open U.S. House seat, she famously told a mega-church audience that she had communicated with God, receiving through fasting and prayer the command to run:

[Samuel the Lamanitecaptain of 1,000]

From a purely practical political perspective in terms of who gets the GOP nod. IMO, people like Cain, Bachman, and Palen who of whom are NeoCons will end up splitting the ea Party vote so that a "moderate" establishment GOPer like Romney or someone else who is part of the very establishment GOP which has bretrayed us over and over again, wiill get the big money and MSM support.

I have contaced each of the three above campains pointing this out. I also pointed out that Ron is 75 and would 80 for 2nd term POTUS. All three of these Tea Party NeoCons are young enough to run in 2016. Ego, pride and insincerety reaign with each of these NeoCons. This IMO is why they won't colaesce around Ron Paul and gian 95% or more of the Tae Party vote in the primary. Do you think possibly that the PTB are working on this? What say ye?

[Midas Mulligancaptain of 10]

Who would be a better option (Ron Paul doesn't count 'cause he can't win)?

No offense but this is a cop-out. The neo-cons love to throw this excuse around when they dismiss Dr. Paul. There is no candidate that would be a better alternative to Obama than Ron Paul. He would BURY Obama in a presidential debate.

As Jerry Garcia once said "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil". A vote for any of the neocons that will get pushed by the establishment is a vote for evil.

I'll never again vote for the lessor of two evils...

Ron Paul 2012

[SempiternalHarbingercaptain of 1,000]

Bachmann is a typical neoconservative on foreign policy issues. I would not support her.

She advocated an attack on Iran: http://minnesotaindependent.com/74387/bachmann-on-iran-u-s-needs-to-do-more-than-talk

She flip-flopped on the Patriot Act: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/6273-tea-party-flexes-its-clout-on-the-patriot-act

2nd that.....not surprised to see the option of running as she is "far right" and would do an awesome job of keeping the polarization game alive in the left vs. right facade!

Who would be a better option (Ron Paul doesn't count 'cause he can't win)?

What has changed the last 50 years by voting for only those who have a chance?? Nothing. Nothing ever changes. I don't care who you vote for, every person who goes into the white house lies about their campaign promises and continues onward right where the previous administration left off. So durangout, just make sure you vote for someone who actually has a chance at winning and I will promise you that nothing will change. But than again I will not waste my vote on Ron Paul either.

[Samuel the Lamanitecaptain of 1,000]

OK. Some tough questions. Specifically, what amount of money and time will you give to help Ron Paul or Senator JimDemint to get the GOP nod? In other words, how much talk vs how much significant walk?

[JasonI am a nobody!]

OK. Some tough questions. Specifically, what amount of money and time will you give to help Ron Paul or Senator JimDemint to get the GOP nod? In other words, how much talk vs how much significant walk?

Did in 2008....and I'm done now. The only real solution is Jesus!

[Samuel the Lamanitecaptain of 1,000]

Jason: I do understand how you feel as I do in many ways also. When I'm ready to "give up<" I always think of Mrormon who didn't give up even though he knew that God had withdrawn His spirit. I would ask you to ponder on that. What say all?

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OK. Some tough questions. Specifically, what amount of money and time will you give to help Ron Paul or Senator JimDemint to get the GOP nod? In other words, how much talk vs how much significant walk?

Did in 2008....and I'm done now. The only real solution is Jesus!

There are no political saviors.....

[JasonI am a nobody!]

Jason: I do understand how you feel as I do in many ways also. When I'm ready to "give up<" I always think of Mrormon who didn't give up even though he knew that God had withdrawn His spirit. I would ask you to ponder on that. What say all?

...I find it interesting that God commanded him to back away....yet when he "repented" there was no mention of commandment - his own will???

[Samuel the Lamanitecaptain of 1,000]

Jason: Foood for thought. If Mormon did his own will would he be describes as a hero in the BofM? Wouldn't he be used as a terrible example of disobedience?

[JasonI am a nobody!]

Jason: Foood for thought. If Mormon did his own will would he be describes as a hero in the BofM? Wouldn't he be used as a terrible example of disobedience?

....not necessarily. Many times the Lord leaves the decisions completely in our ballpark. Was Joseph a terrible example of disobedience for the lost manuscript?

[SempiternalHarbingercaptain of 1,000]

No one is perfect. We ALL fall short. Even Prophets. Jason give a good example. But many prophets have made mistakes. Even Big Ones.

2 Nephi 4:17-19

17 Nevertheless, notwithstanding the great goodness of the Lord, in showing me his great and marvelous works, my heart exclaimeth: O wretched man that I am! Yea, my heart sorroweth because of my flesh; my soul grieveth because of mine iniquities.

18 I am encompassed about, because of the temptations and the sins which do so easily beset me.

19 And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless...

O wretched man that I am?? Wretched means; A miserable, unfortunate, or unhappy person. Or, of poor quality; very bad.

my soul grieveth because of mine iniquities??

I am encompassed about, because of the temptations and the sins which do so easily beset me?? Clearly Nephi of old sinned, which means he was disobedient. And mind you, this is Nephi the elder. Much older than when he left Jeruselem. This is after Lehi had passed away.

Does this sound like an example for us?? Does this sound like a hero?? "temptations and the sins which do so (easily) beset me."

But the very last part of verse 19 ia the most important part of all of it. "I know in whom I have trusted." Of course they are Heroes.

Did Peter not deny Christ three times?? This is Peter we are talking about who witnessed first hand the miracles of Christ yet he denied three times. Truth is everyone falls short. No one is perfect. Not even Prophets. It is why we all needed a Savior.

The brother of Jared;

2O Lord, thou hast said that we must be encompassed about by the floods. Now behold, O Lord, and do not be angry with thy servant because of his weakness before thee; for we know that thou art holy and dwellest in the heavens, and that we are unworthy before thee; because of the fall our natures have become evil continually; nevertheless, O Lord, thou hast given us a commandment that we must call upon thee, that from thee we may receive according to our desires.

Brother of Jared, One of the greatest prophets who ever lived; "have become evil continually"? "we are unworthy before thee;"??

OK. Some tough questions. Specifically, what amount of money and time will you give to help Ron Paul or Senator JimDemint to get the GOP nod? In other words, how much talk vs how much significant walk?

Did in 2008....and I'm done now. The only real solution is Jesus!

Are you saying those who support Ron Paul but don't give him time and money don't really care about our country? And that if you don't, they are big talkers but not doers?? A little advice Samuel the Lamanite, Be really careful donating to Ron Paul's campaign. I donated my hard earned money back in 2008. The problem is he didn't spend my money where he said he was. In fact, my last $50 donation was two weeks before he backed out. I latter found out he knew long before the two weeks that he was going to back of the race. It would have been nice for him to let me know because if I knew he was already planning on backing out I never would have donated money to him. I work hard for my money. He knew he was going to quit long before he told his supporters. Yet Millions of dollars flowed in to his bank account even though he knew he was done. He just kept quiet while the cash just kept coming in. The money was basically hoarded, he could of and should have spent that money for things that needed to be done to really wage a true campaign to be president of the United States, or even to preserve the process that allows us to choose our leaders. I didn't donate money to Ron Paul for him to spend it on other things like to promote his ideas, I didn't donate for him not to spend it or for him to inform the masses. I donated for him to spend it on doing everything in his power to win. Samuel the Lamanite, do you even know how much money he didn't even spend from his donations??? I bet not. And if he didn't spend tons of his donations last time whats to say he will spend your hard money on winning the presidency this time? Ron Paul has got to have run the worst political campaign ever, bar none, unless he was running a campaign NOT to win. His supporters like me ran his campaign, spread the word about him, (word of mouth) and donating money for what we believed. He raised so much money the last election and had what to show for it? Nothing. Shoot I still donated money even though I didn't see ONE single commercial in Nevada. Truth is Ron Paul was only campaigning in one State, Texas. I wonder why??

Ron Paul shot himself in the foot repeatedly, and lost the race in spite of being on the right side of most of the issues, and having the largest-ever grassroots infrastructure of dedicated, smart supporters, with their ingenious signs and clever Internet campaign videos and tireless door-to-door efforts. But these efforts went for naught as Ron Paul was also not willing to spend one penny of money raised for his election to expose or correct the rampant election fraud that obliterated so many of the hard-won votes of his supporters. He never called one press conference, and pretty much never acted like he really wanted to be President.

I am way disappointed in Ron Paul. He sat on millions of dollars of his donations why? He did something almost identical as what Pat Buchanan did with his left over presidential donations, which is to set up a PAC to promote his ideas? And the money has not stopped coming in for ever for Pat or Ron. He might be the best, but his best wont do anything to stop this train. Both are filthy rich, both are lifetime politicians.

Here are my questions. Did Ron Paul ever really intend to run for President? Or did he realize how much easier it would be to raise money for a presidential run than for Congress? Since his seat was in trouble and he had no money, as he himself stated, did Ron Paul see the hopes of his supporters to avert WWIII and preserve a future for themselves as a self-serving opportunity to advance his own personal and unrelated goals?

Oh, few more things. Ron Paul has been on TV allot these days. Much more than last time around. If it is true that all the mainstream media(abc,fox,nbc,cbs) is owned and controlled by the elite and if Ron Paul was such a treat to them, why would they even allow him on their shows? If he was truly a threat to the establishment why would they give him any air time whatsoever? You have people in mainstream media supporting him these days, why? Because he is no threat to them. He is not going to say anything he is not suppose to. He will not cross the line. They also have him on TV because of his huge following which brings instant ratings. Because we all know when Ron Paul is on TV his supporters will watch. There's ZERO chance that a real truther would be allowed even a few nanoseconds on the air. Just go watch Dr. Jones interview with Tucker. It was a hit piece. They would not even let him get one sentence in while tucker called him all sorts of names and interrupted him the entire time. They would not even show the collapse of building 7. Well, you don't see the good doctor on TV anymore do ya. Why? The purpose of the media is not to bring real matters to our attention... it's to cover them up. Ron Paul is giving us half-like truth... a few nuggets here and a few nuggets there -- then spins us off into never ever land. I just laugh my butt off when Ron Paul says we were attacked on 9/11 because "they" don't like "our" policies.We weren't attacked by terrorist on 9/11. It was another false flag attack to control the sheeple. Nothing more. Nothing less. And Ron Paul is smart enough to know it. He will totally distance himself from the movement. Than the next day he will say we were lied to and there should be a new investigation. But the next day he will go back to distancing himself from the movement. Yet his supporters allow him to play both sides of the fence.

One last thing, The Ron Paul Revolution has done more damage to destroy the 911 truth movement than anything else. Period. How is this so? Well, on the campaign trial Ron Paul did everything he could to distance himself from the 911 movement even though most of the truthers were supporting him. Ron Paul made his stance clear. Because if he were to get grouped into the truther movement it would hurt donations, his his credibility, book sales, hurt his chances of being reelected back in Texas. So instead of standing for the truth he was quiet. And most of the truthers followed right along. They stopped talking about the truth because it would hurt Ron Paul's chances. In this way, every 911 truther supporting Ron Paul was basically trained to shut their traps. If you really want to support Ron Paul and you don't want to hurt his chances, shut your pie hole. Lds freedom forum is the exception.



starting at 2:30. Is Ron Paul on Glen Beck simply blind to the facts.

In fact, he even says he wants nothing to do with people who believe 9/11 was an inside job,


absolutlee not inside job

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Sempi: Beleive me, I know that Ron Paul let us down in 2008. The worse for me was his promise to go to the GOP National Convention and then had his own convention in competition with the GOP. I know what you say is true about 911 but I would also add about the birthers. Our organization even had people/neighbors apporach him in TX to stand up and force Obama to show his REAL BC before confirming the electoral vote. he refused to do so. It only took one REP (Ron Paul) and one Senator to force a debate. So????

FYI, I'm not participating in the June 5th Money bomb because of much of what you said above in the failure to show transparency and accountablility. What saddens me the most is that every call for funds has a return address that works ONLY if you give money. Any comments from grassroots is kicked back. I could go on an on.

Why then do I still support Ron Paul? I think Ron's major weakness is surrounding himself with less than competatnt people and making it easy to allow plants to disrupt his cxampaign. I could go into a long story about that but won't here.

I won't if Senator Jim DeMInt of SC decides to run. I'm hoping he will announce this coming week. I gave quite a few dollars to his Senatorial Senators PAC in 2010. Over half thos we supported won. He was very transparent and fulkly accountable. Has been even firmer thatn Rand Paul in the Senate. Good mnan who is NOT a career politician.

My fear is that so Many "Tea Party" candidates are running against each other that they will split the vote allowing an establsihment candidate like Mitt to win.

Thank you for your info and forthrightness.

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There are two youtube videos of Michelle, one she hugs George Bush and won't let him go, the other she says that GB takes her breath away! Sorry I can't find them now, maybe someone can upload them here.