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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby Like » Mon May 09, 2011 6:53 pm

Juan Williams Thinks 'GOP Outcast' Will Win Republican Nomination

Juan Williams sounds worried.

The Fox News contributor writes an op-ed in The Hill, arguing that Ron Paul could win the Republican Presidential nomination.

"It is becoming increasingly clear that we are living in a time when Republican politics are being shaped by a 75-year-old, 12-term Texas congressman with a son in the Senate," he says. "And incredibly, it is no longer out of the realm of possibility that this outcast of the GOP establishment may win the party’s presidential nomination."

Williams notes the $1 million in donations that poured into Paul's account on the day of the Republican debate as well as the cheers when the Congressman advocated for the legalization of marijuana, cocaine, and heroin.

There is a long way to go in the race -- Newt Gingrich will enter later this week, apparently -- but Williams' claim that Paul will be around to the end does not seem that outlandish.



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Postby LoveIsTruth » Tue May 10, 2011 10:18 am

Ron Paul on Freedom Watch May 6 2011

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby iamse7en » Wed May 11, 2011 8:25 am

Great video I saw on RPF:

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed May 11, 2011 9:19 am

Thanks, iamse7en!
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Wed May 11, 2011 9:51 am

Fox Business News:
It’s Ron Paul’s World, We’re Just Living In It




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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Thu May 12, 2011 10:31 am

Jack Hunter: The Conservative War on Drug Prohibition

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri May 13, 2011 9:40 am

It is ON!

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby sixgunsue » Fri May 13, 2011 10:28 am

Tribunal wrote:
Obiwan wrote:1. CNN poll, not representative of conservatism.
2. Paul will not win because he's morally wrong on the threat that is Fanatical Islam.
3. Paul will not win because he's "too" radical on some of his views, such as willingly making Heroin use legal. He doesn't realize that it's a part of the governments job to keep citizens safe, and dangerous drugs not being regulated is not freedom, but anarchy. 4. Paul will not win because he simply does not have a "good spirit" about him. People are put off by his personality, and the President of this country needs to be a quality character of a man, not someone that puts people off.

Watching the Presidential debate, I'm liking Santorum as the top in that debate, then Cain, and still like Romney and maybe Alex Jones for VP. The best duo might be Santorum and Romney.

To what extent should the President keep us safe? At what point should people take personal responsibility for their actions? Its probably a well known fact that drugs like heroin are bad for people and can cause people to do bad things. If a person does drugs and then does bad things to another person they should be held accountable. Simple!

Any thing the federal government wants to do, if it can be done by the states, then the federal government should leave it to the states.
Any thing the state government wants to do, if it can be done by the people, then the state government should leave it to the people.
That's freedom!


AMEN!!! :ymapplause: Just like local food and goods, the best way to govern is locally, especially of thyself!
When people choose not to respect others then should come the protection for those in danger. Right now I'm "protected" from buying raw milk in my state. But my young adult son is not "protected" from cigarettes. Yet, I'd still rather have my right to buy raw milk protected as well as my sons right to buy cigarettes. No matter how I feel morally about smoking. The consequences are mine to take a risk to drink the milk and my sons to smoke the cig. Likewise I would/ should NEVER ask the govt. via taxation of you all, to take care of me or my son if things don't turn out so well because of MY choice. THAT'S true liberty. It leaves the citizen to ask the questions, weigh the risks/benefits and do what they will.
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri May 13, 2011 10:32 am

Ron Paul in Iowa on the Simon Conway Radio Show

Nice overview of Ron Paul's positions and views.

http://dailypaul.com/164372/ron-paul-in-iowa-on-the-simon-conway-radio-show
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri May 13, 2011 10:34 am

sixgunsue wrote:AMEN!!! :ymapplause: Just like local food and goods, the best way to govern is locally, especially of thyself!
When people choose not to respect others then should come the protection for those in danger. Right now I'm "protected" from buying raw milk in my state. But my young adult son is not "protected" from cigarettes. Yet, I'd still rather have my right to buy raw milk protected as well as my sons right to buy cigarettes. No matter how I feel morally about smoking. The consequences are mine to take a risk to drink the milk and my sons to smoke the cig. Likewise I would/ should NEVER ask the govt. via taxation of you all, to take care of me or my son if things don't turn out so well because of MY choice. THAT'S true liberty. It leaves the citizen to ask the questions, weigh the risks/benefits and do what they will.
Good point. The more reason to support Ron Paul now. :) Thank you.
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby sixgunsue » Fri May 13, 2011 11:05 am

You're welcome! And thanks for all these great vids! I don't have cable and don't really know what is going on in the "news"
until I log on here.
This is my favorite quote of all time from Benson. I have it on my fridge so we can read it together during times of conflict or pride in our home. Ironically, it's also my smoker son's favorite as well. I know, weird.
""The price of peace is righteousness. Men and nations may loudly proclaim, 'Peace, peace,' but there shall be no peace until individuals nurture in their souls those principles of personal purity, integrity, and character which foster the development of peace. Peace cannot be imposed. It must come from the lives and hearts of men. There is no other way."
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri May 13, 2011 11:34 am

sixgunsue wrote:You're welcome! And thanks for all these great vids! I don't have cable and don't really know what is going on in the "news"
until I log on here.
That's why we do it! Thank you!


sixgunsue wrote:This is my favorite quote of all time from Benson. I have it on my fridge so we can read it together during times of conflict or pride in our home. Ironically, it's also my smoker son's favorite as well. I know, weird.
""The price of peace is righteousness. Men and nations may loudly proclaim, 'Peace, peace,' but there shall be no peace until individuals nurture in their souls those principles of personal purity, integrity, and character which foster the development of peace. Peace cannot be imposed. It must come from the lives and hearts of men. There is no other way."
- Benson
Exactly. The core of righteousness is simple and profound: Treat your neighbor as yourself. Ron Paul's philosophy of non-aggression is derived from this bed-rock principle of righteousness. (Incidentally, it is also related to The Benson’s Principle viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12347, a fundamental principle of liberty).
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri May 13, 2011 6:04 pm

== It is so ON!!! ==

May God bless us in our efforts!

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri May 13, 2011 7:12 pm

Ron Paul on Hardball - 5/13/11
Good one.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/43027964#43027964

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 8:32 am

CBS News:
Will 2012 be the year for Ron Paul thanks to his online following?

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 8:48 am

Ron Paul on Neil Cavuto - May 13th.

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 8:53 am

Ron Paul: I'm Back (New Ron Paul Video)

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 8:57 am

New York Times:
Does the Tea Party Make Ron Paul Mainstream?Image

Ron Paul was Tea Party before Tea Party was cool.

A candidate of the fringe and the Libertarian college-age set in 2008, the 75-year-old representative from Texas announced his second run for the Republican nomination for president during an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Friday.

But if Mr. Paul remains the same, blunt-spoken, small-government rabble-rouser that he was four years ago, he and his top aides are betting that the times — and the Republican primary electorate — have changed in the interim.

“Time has come around to where the people are agreeing with much of what I’ve been saying for 30 years,” Mr. Paul said on ABC. “The time is right.”

The rise of the Tea Party movement offers Mr. Paul an opportunity to be embraced as a kind of mainstream candidate that he never was while running last time around.

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby lundbaek » Sat May 14, 2011 9:00 am

The last two evenings I attended presentation in Mesa, AZ by the Thomas Jefferson Center For Constitutional Restoration. I think all attendees were LDSs. Both evenings I heard enough to be convinced that the leadership is cheerleading for Mitt Romney. The only fault they could elaborate about Ron Paul on was his "Libertarian views", which they did at length. Both evenings I stated that it is important that we voters find and support candidates who understand and will abide by the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers, and I voiced my opinion that Romney lacks understanding of the Constitution and/or the integrity to be guided by it, and that Ron Paul, on the other side, has both. Nobody even tried to refute what I said, and it was obvious nearly all other persons there did not want to challenge or discuss my statements. A few showed horror on their faces. It seemed they just want to continue supporting Romney. I didn't win any friends but I hope I influenced a few people by speaking up as I did. I think it is important that we who prefer Ron Paul over Mitt Romney be prepared to remind our fellow Mormons whenever possible that Ezra Taft Benson told us in the October 1979 General Conference that "Men who are wise, good, and honest, who will uphold the Constitution of the United States in the tradition of the Founding Fathers, must be sought for diligently. This is our hope to restore government to its rightful role." And be prepared for the reply that it's more important now that we get a Mormon in the White House, because that's the thinking among most of LDS voters.
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 9:05 am

Good point. Your are so right. Thank you for speaking up!

God bless you.
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 9:10 am

The Associated Press:
Tea party godfather Ron Paul running for president

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Texas Rep. Ron Paul announced Friday that he will run for the GOP nomination for president in 2012, the third attempt for the man known on Capitol Hill as "Dr. No" for his enthusiasm for bashing runaway spending and government overreach.
"Time has come around to the point where the people are agreeing with much of what I've been saying for 30 years. So, I think the time is right," said the 75-year-old Paul, who first ran for president as a Libertarian in 1988.

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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby sbsion » Sat May 14, 2011 1:04 pm

after listening to him supporting the idea that OBL was the factor of 9-11, I now withdraw any leaning towards his credibility
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat May 14, 2011 1:43 pm

sbsion wrote:after listening to him supporting the idea that OBL was the factor of 9-11, I now withdraw any leaning towards his credibility
Do you think Romney has a different opinion?

On issues MORE important than 9-11, no one is closer to the truth in American politics than Ron Paul, -- NO ONE!

If you reject him because of this you are NOT wise at all!
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby sbsion » Sat May 14, 2011 4:01 pm

it's not a matter of being wise, it's a matter of TRUTH,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somewhere, he doesn't "jive", you're either "uninformed", stupid, or paid off not to understand 9-11, he is not stupid or uninformed!!!
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby givemeliberty » Sat May 14, 2011 6:46 pm

LoveIsTruth wrote:It will be like Jesus talking to the wicked Jews, which would not make the truth without an eternal effect.


I thought Obama was Jesus... not Ron Paul. ;)

sbsion wrote:after listening to him supporting the idea that OBL was the factor of 9-11, I now withdraw any leaning towards his credibility

sbsion wrote:it's not a matter of being wise, it's a matter of TRUTH,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somewhere, he doesn't "jive", you're either "uninformed", stupid, or paid off not to understand 9-11, he is not stupid or uninformed!!!



I like sbsion's point about 9/11 and Ron Paul. Do we have to support a candidate because he or she is the most right? I think we are allowed to not support any of the candidates running without it being a matter of wisdom, intelligence, or judgment. I really like Ron Paul's views, but I have trouble fully embracing him. I sense something off about him, but I don't know what it is (i.e., dishonesty or something like that).

With 30 years in politics, is it safe to say he's a career politician? Was a career in politics what the founding fathers had in mind for our congress?
“… A Constitution was therefore designed to limit government to certain enumerated functions, beyond which was tyranny." - Ezra Taft Benson
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby iamse7en » Sat May 14, 2011 7:18 pm

There are many words to describe RP, but dishonest isn't one of them. Btw, Huck not running is good for RP, even better for MR. I'm very surprised Huck isn't running. Probably realizes the cartels are pulling all the stops to get the bamster reelected.
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby lundbaek » Sat May 14, 2011 7:39 pm

Ezra Taft Benson told us in the October 1979 General Conference that "Men who are wise, good, and honest, who will uphold the Constitution of the United States in the tradition of the Founding Fathers, must be sought for diligently. This is our hope to restore government to its rightful role."
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby givemeliberty » Sat May 14, 2011 7:39 pm

I'm really glad Mike Huckabee isn't running. His prejudice against Mormonism and hostility to Romney disgusted me.
“… A Constitution was therefore designed to limit government to certain enumerated functions, beyond which was tyranny." - Ezra Taft Benson
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Re: Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

Postby mattctr » Sat May 14, 2011 7:56 pm

givemeliberty wrote: I really like Ron Paul's views, but I have trouble fully embracing him. I sense something off about him, but I don't know what it is (i.e., dishonesty or something like that).

With 30 years in politics, is it safe to say he's a career politician? Was a career in politics what the founding fathers had in mind for our congress?

He is a reluctant career politician whose voting record proves his allegiance to principles over party, truth over short-term advantage, and bringing to the forefront, those principles that your avatar (Benson) espoused. Would that all such people were career politicians. Now, given his long career, in which he is the only congressman to consistently return unused congressional office operating funds to the treasury year after year, he would support term-limits, but until that idea gains traction, it is good to have men like him in office.

I'm fine if you feel he rubs you the wrong way; that's your prerogative. However, it is laughable for a Mitt Romney sympathizer to question the honesty of someone who has been painstakingly honest and consistent for 30 years. Dishonesty does not belong in the same solar system of thought as Ron Paul. I recommend you channel your "something off" feelings into some other, non-laughable criticism.

In terms of political understanding, Ezra T. Benson and Ron Paul are nearly synonymous. PLEASE, read his books (or his years of Texas Straight Talk articles) before talking down about THE FOREMOST defender of the US Constitution for the past 30 years.
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