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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby patriotsaint » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:55 am

Jason wrote:That was the jist I got from the reviews on Amazon. Of course if you back out and get a little more macro.....and see Halliburton subsidiary KBR hiring Al Qaeda for missions in Bosnia/Serbia/etc.....then the perspective changes quite a bit. Go back further to Al Qaeda's birth via The Safari Club and BCCI and the perspective changes even further.

imo he's pretty low level and compartmentalized.....


You're right, it's extremely compartmentalized, but I think it might be a good read for those who are entrenched in the "America is always right" warhawk mentality. I believe I found this book on a reading list of Ron Paul recommendations and it spurred me to investigate the truth even further. The fact that he served on the Bin Laden unit carries some weight for government lovers that might look at other writers as tin-hat conspiracy theorists.
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Postby Jason » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:00 am

patriotsaint wrote:
Jason wrote:That was the jist I got from the reviews on Amazon. Of course if you back out and get a little more macro.....and see Halliburton subsidiary KBR hiring Al Qaeda for missions in Bosnia/Serbia/etc.....then the perspective changes quite a bit. Go back further to Al Qaeda's birth via The Safari Club and BCCI and the perspective changes even further.

imo he's pretty low level and compartmentalized.....


You're right, it's extremely compartmentalized, but I think it might be a good read for those who are entrenched in the "America is always right" warhawk mentality. I believe I found this book on a reading list of Ron Paul recommendations and it spurred me to investigate the truth even further. The fact that he served on the Bin Laden unit carries some weight for government lovers that might look at other writers as tin-hat conspiracy theorists.


I'm assuming he starts in around Operation AJAX and points out what he perceives as US mis-steps and infractions against Islam (like leaving the mujahedin high and dry after booting the Soviets out of Afghanistan) which then fuel the hate for America providing the impetus for actions against the US in events such as 9/11???
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby patriotsaint » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:01 am

Yep
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby InfoWarrior82 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:21 pm

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:51 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote:Help us Obi Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope!

No... there is another. ;)
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Silas » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:23 am

I hope its not me you are counting on. I am only half heartedly disagreeing with everyone here. It does look like a controlled demolition. It just doesn't seem possible to have happened the way that the government said it did. That just makes the situation our nation is in much much worse than what I thought and I already thought it was really bad. It is just unsettling to me when "crazy conspiracy theories" start making a lot of sense. Right now I am just kind of clinging to the hope that I am missing something that will prove all of this wrong and have things make sense again.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:48 am

Silas wrote:It is just unsettling to me when "crazy conspiracy theories" start making a lot of sense. Right now I am just kind of clinging to the hope that I am missing something that will prove all of this wrong and have things make sense again.
Ahh, this is the feeling of waking up from a deep sleep. I love it!

But look at the bright side, nothing has changed, it is only your belief system that is slowly catching up with reality. Truth is stranger and much more profound than any fiction!

Welcome to reality, welcome to truth, and the truth is that God and good will inescapably prevail.

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Jason » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:58 am

Silas wrote:I hope its not me you are counting on. I am only half heartedly disagreeing with everyone here. It does look like a controlled demolition. It just doesn't seem possible to have happened the way that the government said it did. That just makes the situation our nation is in much much worse than what I thought and I already thought it was really bad. It is just unsettling to me when "crazy conspiracy theories" start making a lot of sense. Right now I am just kind of clinging to the hope that I am missing something that will prove all of this wrong and have things make sense again.


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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby larsenb » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:43 am

Silas wrote:I hope its not me you are counting on. I am only half heartedly disagreeing with everyone here. It does look like a controlled demolition. It just doesn't seem possible to have happened the way that the government said it did. That just makes the situation our nation is in much much worse than what I thought and I already thought it was really bad. It is just unsettling to me when "crazy conspiracy theories" start making a lot of sense. Right now I am just kind of clinging to the hope that I am missing something that will prove all of this wrong and have things make sense again.
More bloviation from larsenb. Apologies, but here goes:


The beauty of gaining this new understanding of 9/11, as unsettling as it is, is that it makes perfect sense in terms of the model presented by the larger globalist conspiracy. And for me, understanding the globalist conspiracy allows you to start seeing what's going on in a clearer fashion. Things start making sense. You can even predict what may happen.

You begin to understand how people can be trapped by their current models, especially those that are extremely self-serving and/or authority-driven, relying on the arm of the flesh. You begin to understand how entitites like the Deseret News can be so blind in many political areas; you can see them relying on what they regard as their editorial acumen, their authority as journalists'and editors, etc., how they are the arbiters of what the news is, and why they do such things as give Bob Bennett carte blanche editorial space almost every other day. I would say, key Deseret Editors DON'T understand the bigger picture. In fact, given the chance, they would ridicule it.

You gain a greater understanding of why it is important to use your own brain for evaluation and assessment, to weigh everything; and yet to be open to everything you haven't yet tested or have already rejected for principled reasons (re. Article of Faith 13). And LDS SHOULD have an advantage, because of the spiritual principles and access to the direct intelligence of the Spirit we possess, or the opportunity we have of feeding off-others who are more tuned in than we are.

You begin to understand how the CIA-created al-Kaeda can be used as a CIA tool, even to the point where alleged members are allowed to be front men or cutouts for events such as 9/11; or how suddenly, we are arming rebels in Libya who have strong ties to al-Kaeda and even have al-Kaeda as members. I mean, wasn't al-Kaeda our bitter enemy?? What's going on? Or the recent example of Secy. State Hillary going to Vietnam to enlist them as allies in our war against 'terra'. I mean what happened to the evil Communists we were fighting there some-forty years ago? Did they disappear?

You begin to understand how all of these ongoing anomolous and shifitng events and ploys are really being undertaken to further globalist command and control; how such things as the Fabian motto of: "We destroy the world so we can rebuild it after our hearts desire", really works. You begin to understand the deceptive buzz-words being used in this push, such as how we're bringing 'democracy' to the world; democracies locked into an every increasing conrol grid, with Central Banks, a controlled media, and in the case of the European Union, largely governed by decrees and decisions coming from unelected officials and councils, the same type of entities called 'soviets' in the former Soviet Union.

Is there danger of being trapped by this new model a la Thomas Kuhn, or was it Karl Popper? Yes, I thnk you can go overboard with it in some areas. You may attribute too much of what you see to being the result of the larger conspiracy; you may misjudge the motives of people who are really ignorant of how they are being maniputlated, and who may have good, innocent motivations; and you may attribute too much awareness and even connectivity to groups and individuals operating at even a high level of the conspiracy. After all, does Lucifer convey all his plots,ploys and goals to even his highest level, embodied henchman. I doubt it. They may see eugenics as a rational ploy to cull the herd and reduce the population down to the earth's carrying capacity or to even improve the gene pool. But he may see the end goal of eugenics as a logical ploy to kill and destroy everybody (a la Ether 8), thereby totally derailing God's plan for this world and the salvation and progression of many more spirits (you can see I've been reading 1984's posts on this).

And yes, in coming to understand that the official explanation of 9/11 is dead wrong, and how 9/11 was a major lynch pin in kicking off the major events of this last decade in the service of the gobalist conspiracy, you come to understand just how awful our situation is. It's a big jump.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:08 am

larsenb wrote:
Silas wrote:I hope its not me you are counting on. I am only half heartedly disagreeing with everyone here. It does look like a controlled demolition. It just doesn't seem possible to have happened the way that the government said it did. That just makes the situation our nation is in much much worse than what I thought and I already thought it was really bad. It is just unsettling to me when "crazy conspiracy theories" start making a lot of sense. Right now I am just kind of clinging to the hope that I am missing something that will prove all of this wrong and have things make sense again.
More bloviation from larsenb. Apologies, but here goes:


The beauty of gaining this new understanding of 9/11, as unsettling as it is, is that it makes perfect sense in terms of the model presented by the larger globalist conspiracy. And for me, understanding the globalist conspiracy allows you to start seeing what's going on in a clearer fashion. Things start making sense. You can even predict what may happen.

You begin to understand how people can be trapped by their current models, especially those that are extremely self-serving and/or authority-driven, relying on the arm of the flesh. You begin to understand how entitites like the Deseret News can be so blind in many political areas; you can see them relying on what they regard as their editorial acumen, their authority as journalists'and editors, etc., how they are the arbiters of what the news is, and why they do such things as give Bob Bennett carte blanche editorial space almost every other day. I would say, key Deseret Editors DON'T understand the bigger picture. In fact, given the chance, they would ridicule it.

You gain a greater understanding of why it is important to use your own brain for evaluation and assessment, to weigh everything; and yet to be open to everything you haven't yet tested or have already rejected for principled reasons (re. Article of Faith 13). And LDS SHOULD have an advantage, because of the spiritual principles and access to the direct intelligence of the Spirit we possess, or the opportunity we have of feeding off-others who are more tuned in than we are.

You begin to understand how the CIA-created al-Kaeda can be used as a CIA tool, even to the point where alleged members are allowed to be front men or cutouts for events such as 9/11; or how suddenly, we are arming rebels in Libya who have strong ties to al-Kaeda and even have al-Kaeda as members. I mean, wasn't al-Kaeda our bitter enemy?? What's going on? Or the recent example of Secy. State Hillary going to Vietnam to enlist them as allies in our war against 'terra'. I mean what happened to the evil Communists we were fighting there some-forty years ago? Did they disappear?

You begin to understand how all of these ongoing anomolous and shifitng events and ploys are really being undertaken to further globalist command and control; how such things as the Fabian motto of: "We destroy the world so we can rebuild it after our hearts desire", really works. You begin to understand the deceptive buzz-words being used in this push, such as how we're bringing 'democracy' to the world; democracies locked into an every increasing conrol grid, with Central Banks, a controlled media, and in the case of the European Union, largely governed by decrees and decisions coming from unelected officials and councils, the same type of entities called 'soviets' in the former Soviet Union.

Is there danger of being trapped by this new model a la Thomas Kuhn, or was it Karl Popper? Yes, I thnk you can go overboard with it in some areas. You may attribute too much of what you see to being the result of the larger conspiracy; you may misjudge the motives of people who are really ignorant of how they are being maniputlated, and who may have good, innocent motivations; and you may attribute too much awareness and even connectivity to groups and individuals operating at even a high level of the conspiracy. After all, does Lucifer convey all his plots,ploys and goals to even his highest level, embodied henchman. I doubt it. They may see eugenics as a rational ploy to cull the herd and reduce the population down to the earth's carrying capacity or to even improve the gene pool. But he may see the end goal of eugenics as a logical ploy to kill and destroy everybody (a la Ether 8), thereby totally derailing God's plan for this world and the salvation and progression of many more spirits (you can see I've been reading 1984's posts on this).

And yes, in coming to understand that the official explanation of 9/11 is dead wrong, and how 9/11 was a major lynch pin in kicking off the major events of this last decade in the service of the gobalist conspiracy, you come to understand just how awful our situation is. It's a big jump.



... Or on the flip side could you be getting played as a potential useful idiot here by those who seek for the destruction of the west? Just something to consider based on some of these unholy alliances between communist media voices like RT and those of Jones and LaRouche and Tarpley etc. :-?


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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:30 am

Mark wrote:... Or on the flip side could you be getting played as a potential useful idiot here by those who seek for the destruction of the west? Just something to consider based on some of these unholy alliances between communist media voices like RT and those of Jones and LaRouche and Tarpley etc. :-?


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Truth is truth, no matter the source. And I am sure that RT (Russia Today) at the very top at least, does not do this out of the goodness of their hearts, but their mid level correspondents seem honest enough.


As for you, Mark, you answer well researched, well reasoned, solid fact based analysis with blanket statements of denial, without a shred of evidence to support your position. This is the usual behavior of either fools, or liars. I tend to think that you are not a fool. :)
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Silas » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:28 pm

I am still skeptical but I don't know how to disprove it. It makes sense to me. Which is troubling. I need more time to process this and investigate it.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby InfoWarrior82 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:15 pm

Silas wrote:I am still skeptical but I don't know how to disprove it. It makes sense to me. Which is troubling. I need more time to process this and investigate it.



I got this a lot on my mission.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:35 pm

LoveIsTruth wrote:
Mark wrote:... Or on the flip side could you be getting played as a potential useful idiot here by those who seek for the destruction of the west? Just something to consider based on some of these unholy alliances between communist media voices like RT and those of Jones and LaRouche and Tarpley etc. :-?


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Truth is truth, no matter the source. And I am sure that RT (Russia Today) at the very top at least, does not do this out of the goodness of their hearts, but their mid level correspondents seem honest enough.


As for you, Mark, you answer well researched, well reasoned, solid fact based analysis with blanket statements of denial, without a shred of evidence to support your position. This is the usual behavior of either fools, or liars. I tend to think that you are not a fool. :)



Mind-boggling! RT is 100% owned and controlled by the same people who have brought you decades of mass murderous slaughter and tyranny of their own people not to mention a continuous steady stream of world wide deceptive propaganda but as long as they agree with your inside job premise they can't be all bad. :)) Your too much Love.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:09 pm

Mark wrote:Mind-boggling! RT is 100% owned and controlled by the same people who have brought you decades of mass murderous slaughter and tyranny of their own people not to mention a continuous steady stream of world wide deceptive propaganda but as long as they agree with your inside job premise they can't be all bad. :)) Your too much Love.
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Your logic is flawed. Judge Napalitano, Ron Paul, and John Stossel appear on Fox, the same station that brought you pro-war propaganda. If you deny the truth from whatever source it comes, you are still denying the truth, therefore you are building on a sandy foundation, and you know what happens to those who align themselves against the truth, they will fail and fall, because by opposing the truth they oppose God, who is the source of all truth; so yours is a very foolish position to be in, my friend, indeed!
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:23 pm

Mark wrote:... Or on the flip side could you be getting played as a potential useful idiot here by those who seek for the destruction of the west? Just something to consider based on some of these unholy alliances between communist media voices like RT and those of Jones and LaRouche and Tarpley etc. :-?

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RT and Jones 'communist media'? =)) Um Mark, I would designate RT and Alex Jones as 'truth media'. :-$ LaRouche's clan is sort of a cult, but he's not all bad and Webster Tarpley is a truth-seeker who has gotten to the bottom of many deceptions currently being perpetrated upon the American public. Me thinks you need to re-evaluate who you are calling communist here because you are way off base my hula pie Bro.

Mark, here's a little Webster for you (and some education too - I feel sorry for people like Hannity & Colmes)...

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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:31 pm

LoveIsTruth wrote:
Mark wrote:Mind-boggling! RT is 100% owned and controlled by the same people who have brought you decades of mass murderous slaughter and tyranny of their own people not to mention a continuous steady stream of world wide deceptive propaganda but as long as they agree with your inside job premise they can't be all bad. :)) Your too much Love.
Truth from hell is just as true as truth from heaven, only heaven has more of it.

Your logic is flawed. Judge Napalitano, Ron Paul, and John Stossel appear on Fox, the same station that brought you pro-war propaganda. If you deny the truth from whatever source it comes, you are still denying the truth, therefore you are building on a sandy foundation, and you know what happens to those who align themselves against the truth, they will fail and fall, because by opposing the truth they oppose God, who is the source of all truth; so yours is a very foolish position to be in, my friend, indeed!



So what you are saying is that if I or anyone else dares to question your premise that 9-11 was strictly an inside job then I in essence oppose God? =)) Keep talking Love. Pretty soon you will join CHH and condemn me to hell for daring to question anything you claim to be "true".
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

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Col. Flagg wrote:
Mark wrote:... Or on the flip side could you be getting played as a potential useful idiot here by those who seek for the destruction of the west? Just something to consider based on some of these unholy alliances between communist media voices like RT and those of Jones and LaRouche and Tarpley etc. :-?

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RT and Jones 'communist media'? =)) Um Mark, I would designate RT and Alex Jones as 'truth media'. :-$ LaRouche's clan is sort of a cult, but he's not all bad and Webster Tarpley is a truth-seeker trying to get to the bottom of many deceptions currently being perpetrated upon the American public. Me thinks you need to re-evaluate who you are calling communist here because you are way off base my hula pie Bro.



Yeah and Putin is a statesmen just following in the footprints of George Washington. =)) You do know that RT is nothing more than the propagandist arm of the KGB/FSB don't you Bro? Truth media? You must be joking.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:40 pm

Mark wrote:So what you are saying is that if I or anyone else dares to question your premise that 9-11 was strictly an inside job then I in essence oppose God? =)) Keep talking Love. Pretty soon you will join CHH and condemn me to hell for daring to question anything you claim to be "true".
You oppose truth when you align yourself against solid evidence and indisputable facts. If you can honestly challenge the facts, more power to you, but your pattern consistently has been to avoid factual evidence, but rather ridicule and deny the facts without a shred of evidence to support your position. Such pattern is common to fools or paid liars. As I said, I do not think you are a fool :), therefore you sound like a liar. For your sake, I hope I am wrong! (2 Ne 9:34)
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

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Mark wrote:
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Mark wrote:... Or on the flip side could you be getting played as a potential useful idiot here by those who seek for the destruction of the west? Just something to consider based on some of these unholy alliances between communist media voices like RT and those of Jones and LaRouche and Tarpley etc. :-?

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RT and Jones 'communist media'? =)) Um Mark, I would designate RT and Alex Jones as 'truth media'. :-$ LaRouche's clan is sort of a cult, but he's not all bad and Webster Tarpley is a truth-seeker trying to get to the bottom of many deceptions currently being perpetrated upon the American public. Me thinks you need to re-evaluate who you are calling communist here because you are way off base my hula pie Bro.



Yeah and Putin is a statesmen just following in the footprints of George Washington. =)) You do know that RT is nothing more than the propagandist arm of the KGB/FSB don't you Bro? Truth media? You must be joking.

Mark, I don't care if RT is as communist as they come - the fact is that they deliver truth and facts which our media either won't touch, address or investigate - like as was said above - truth is truth, no matter the source, period. In fact, I would trust RT over our mainstream media any day... and that is sad and pathetic for ours. In the clip above I posted with Tarpley on Hannity and Colmes, Webster is telling 100% truth while Hannity and Colmes insult him and interupt with attacks and what news network is it? Fox. RT has had numerous individuals on their network who are experts and courageous in the realm of 9/11 and you know what they do? They ask questions to their guests without attacking to discredit and they aren't afraid to put the real meat out there such as the evidence of nano-thermate, molten metal under all 3 buildings, etc. Our media is a joke and they are ignorant cowards with nothing 'investigative' about them at all - if it comes from Washington, DC, that's good enough for them =)) - RT runs circles around our so-called 'media'. :ymblushing: :ymblushing: :ymblushing:
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:14 pm

Col. Flagg wrote:Mark, I don't care if RT is as communist as they come - the fact is that they deliver truth and facts which our media either won't touch, address or investigate - like as was said above - truth is truth, no matter the source, period. In fact, I would trust RT over our mainstream media any day... and that is sad and pathetic for ours. In the clip above I posted with Tarpley on Hannity and Colmes, Webster is telling 100% truth while Hannity and Colmes insult him and interupt with attacks and what news network is it? Fox. RT has had numerous individuals on their network who are experts and courageous in the realm of 9/11 and you know what they do? They ask questions to their guests without attacking to discredit and they aren't afraid to put the real meat out there such as the evidence of nano-thermate, molten metal under all 3 buildings, etc. Our media is a joke and they are ignorant cowards with nothing 'investigative' about them at all - if it comes from Washington, DC, that's good enough for them =)) - RT runs circles around our so-called 'media'. :ymblushing: :ymblushing: :ymblushing:



Tarpley outright lied when he proclaimed that Building 7 was the only steel framed building history that came down with no plane hitting it and no fire. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that building 7 had sustained major fire damage from fires that had been burning for several hours. Are you seriously going to try and defend this guy Col? This just shows me that when someone has their minds made up they will discount anything that contradicts their premise no matter how many facts come forward to contradict that mindset. @-)

You seriously need to do some research on communist propaganda outlets in the history of the Soviet Union Col. For you to say that a communist outlet really doesn't matter to you shows an amazing lack of understanding what communist propaganda outlets are designed to do.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:05 pm

LoveIsTruth wrote:
Mark wrote:So what you are saying is that if I or anyone else dares to question your premise that 9-11 was strictly an inside job then I in essence oppose God? =)) Keep talking Love. Pretty soon you will join CHH and condemn me to hell for daring to question anything you claim to be "true".
You oppose truth when you align yourself against solid evidence and indisputable facts. If you can honestly challenge the facts, more power to you, but your pattern consistently has been to avoid factual evidence, but rather ridicule and deny the facts without a shred of evidence to support your position. Such pattern is common to fools or paid liars. As I said, I do not think you are a fool :), therefore you sound like a liar. For your sake, I hope I am wrong! (2 Ne 9:34)



Indisputable facts? Man you are amazing. Show me your indisputable facts that absolutely prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that 9-11 was an inside job conducted by our own govt. officials. I want to see those indisputable facts you have. I have seen a lot of suppositions and theories and opinions here but have yet to see these indisputable facts you are claiming you have that proves 9-11 was a false flag operation conducted by our own govt.
You are a true nothing Mark.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby InfoWarrior82 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:08 pm

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Tarpley outright lied when he proclaimed that Building 7 was the only steel framed building history that came down with no plane hitting it and no fire. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that building 7 had sustained major fire damage from fires that had been burning for several hours. Are you seriously going to try and defend this guy Col? This just shows me that when someone has their minds made up they will discount anything that contradicts their premise no matter how many facts come forward to contradict that mindset. @-)



Steel framed buildings are designed to NOT fall while on fire. He was actually correct when he said that building 7 was the only steel framed building in history that came down with no plane hitting it... but if he said there was NO fire.. then he was wrong. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that he meant that fire had nothing to do with it's collapsing SYMMETRICALLY into it's own footprint in FREE FALL SPEED. The truthful statement is: Building 7 was the only steel framed building in history that came down "due to fire"-- which the official story insists that it did. They denied for years that it came down at free-fall speed until people actually did their own independent investigations which then NIST had to come out and admit that yes, it did indeed come down at free-fall speed. (As of this day they have NO explanation for). Why is this significant? Because this means that each floor met ZERO resistance while collapsing on top of each other. (When Col. Flagg says words like "simple physics", he's not overstating anything.) This can only be done when timed explosives pulverize the supports to each floor so that by the time of collapse, there is nothing in the way between the floors of the building-- making a neat pile of rubble. Ask any explosives/demolitions expert if this is significant.



Mark, if the evidence was showing that communists, men in caves, aliens, etc. were the culprits on 9/11--- I bet this debate would be a whole lot different. As it stands right now, it overwhelmingly points to elements within our government, private companies with government ties, --- a "western" secret combination. We don't deny that Russia is very independent and would love to see the U.S. crumble. They are just waiting until our country becomes so hollowed out from within due to corruption, in order to make their move on us.

The evidence came first, which then caused our mindset to be this way. Not the other way around. And besides, it's not like we're having a tough time trying to make pieces fit here or anything like that. If anyone here is having a hard time bringing forth evidence here... I'd say it would be you, in all fairness.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Rob » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:22 pm

Mark wrote:This just shows me that when someone has their minds made up they will discount anything that contradicts their premise no matter how many facts come forward to contradict that mindset.
Yeah, like you're any different. 8-|
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:37 pm

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Col. Flagg wrote:Mark, I don't care if RT is as communist as they come - the fact is that they deliver truth and facts which our media either won't touch, address or investigate - like as was said above - truth is truth, no matter the source, period. In fact, I would trust RT over our mainstream media any day... and that is sad and pathetic for ours. In the clip above I posted with Tarpley on Hannity and Colmes, Webster is telling 100% truth while Hannity and Colmes insult him and interupt with attacks and what news network is it? Fox. RT has had numerous individuals on their network who are experts and courageous in the realm of 9/11 and you know what they do? They ask questions to their guests without attacking to discredit and they aren't afraid to put the real meat out there such as the evidence of nano-thermate, molten metal under all 3 buildings, etc. Our media is a joke and they are ignorant cowards with nothing 'investigative' about them at all - if it comes from Washington, DC, that's good enough for them =)) - RT runs circles around our so-called 'media'. :ymblushing: :ymblushing: :ymblushing:



Tarpley outright lied when he proclaimed that Building 7 was the only steel framed building history that came down with no plane hitting it and no fire. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that building 7 had sustained major fire damage from fires that had been burning for several hours. Are you seriously going to try and defend this guy Col? This just shows me that when someone has their minds made up they will discount anything that contradicts their premise no matter how many facts come forward to contradict that mindset. @-)

You seriously need to do some research on communist propaganda outlets in the history of the Soviet Union Col. For you to say that a communist outlet really doesn't matter to you shows an amazing lack of understanding what communist propaganda outlets are designed to do.

Yes, I will admit - Tarpley was not totally accurate when he said that there were no fires in building 7 - there were a few on some floors, but nothing even remotely close to resembling a raging inferno. This actually brings up a very good question Mark... why and how do you suppose debris from the WTC's which were over 150 yards away is going to ignite fires in building 7? There must have been some serious heat from the WTC's, which we know were loaded with both conventional and non-conventional high-tech explosives (nano-thermate being what weakened the structures enough to allow for their complete demolition), which was obviously the culprit. I also find it rather amusing that you are accusing me of showing a lack of understanding of communist propaganda when your lack of understanding regarding the scientific evidence, facts, laws of physics, amazing coincidences and eyewitness accounts about the realities of 9/11 is far more heinous. Seriously... is your obsession with communism so deep that you can't see or think beyond the realm of it? I'm sorry, but at least Vladamir Putin isn't guilty and liable in the deaths of over 3,000 innocent people, thousands of our own soldiers and hundreds of thousands in Iraq/Afghanistan, as is our former VP Dick Cheney. I understand the seriousness of communism Mark and how evil Putin, the KGB, Medvedev, etc. all are and that they would love to take us down given the opportunity, but they were in no way, shape or form involved with the destruction of the World Trade Centers, the Pentagon or the shredding of our civil liberties and criminal profiteering by defense corporations and the enrichment of the military-industrial complex. Mark, war is big business... and also a racket... there is a reason those two phrases were coined. Have you ever studied the history of false flag operations?
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:47 pm

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Mark wrote:This just shows me that when someone has their minds made up they will discount anything that contradicts their premise no matter how many facts come forward to contradict that mindset.
Yeah, like you're any different. 8-|

Yep. I love Mark to death, but darn, is he stubborn and hard-headed over the truth about 9/11 - I think he's eaten too many hula pies lately and the sugar overload has caused him to only have tunnel vision.
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Col. Flagg » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:50 pm

Mark wrote:Indisputable facts? Man you are amazing.

Mark... we've gone over the scientific evidence, laws of physics, molten metal, etc. ad nauseum here on this site and with you and yet, you continue to refer to it all as 'theories' - that's pretty sad my friend.

Show me your indisputable facts that absolutely prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that 9-11 was an inside job conducted by our own govt. officials.

Mark, if you had read any of the previous, many threads about 9/11 (most of which you were a participant), you would already know this information.

I want to see those indisputable facts you have.

It is all over this site Mark - have you seen my documentary on you-tube? It would open your eyes big time.

I have seen a lot of suppositions and theories and opinions here but have yet to see these indisputable facts you are claiming you have that proves 9-11 was a false flag operation conducted by our own govt.

Mark, it wasn't our 'government' per se - only intelligence services like the CIA and Mossad would have had the capability and expertise to pull off the demolitions, especially since they would have had access to the buildings to prep them for demolition. Criminal elements of our 'government' were involved, not the U.S. 'government' as a whole. I don't think GW Bush can even tie his own shows without Daddy Bush's help - to surmise that he and his administration executed the attacks is beyond absurd. However, they were certainly complicit in allowing the attacks to succeed, with a few members of his admin. directly involved (Cheney being the main one). Do you not find it highly disturbing that he was in charge of war-games going on that morning which were simulating the very attacks going on in real life? What a coincidence ay? The destruction of the WTC's was a demolition masterpiece and the first of its kind (from the top, down, with very high-tech military-grade ordnance).

Mark, I will make a deal with you - if you watch a 2 hour documentary I've put together about 9/11, I'll watch anything you want me to watch for 2 hours (either on a mailed DVD or online) - and then once we've watched them, we can give our honest opinion of the information presented. Deal?
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Re: The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

Postby Rob » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:13 pm

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Rob wrote:
Mark wrote:This just shows me that when someone has their minds made up they will discount anything that contradicts their premise no matter how many facts come forward to contradict that mindset.
Yeah, like you're any different. 8-|

Yep. I love Mark to death, but darn, is he stubborn and hard-headed over the truth about 9/11 - I think he's eaten too many hula pies lately and the sugar overload has caused him to only have tunnel vision.
Yeah, I guess everybody wakes up when they wake up. Not much can be done to speed up the process.
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