lundbaek wrote:I think I understand Aussie’s frustration with and apparent attitude toward members and certain leaders of the church, although maybe from a different perspective. This may be hard for some to believe, coming from me, but I do try to consider the various reasons for members and church leaders remaining inactive and silent in this battle. Although it's not easy when a member of the stake presidency tell me that he considers the book “None Dare Call It Conspiracy” by Gary Allen “mostly a bunch of bunk”.
And I have held back from saying certain things. On a fast and testimony Sunday a few months ago I was prepared to testify that “...the Lord established the Constitution of this land by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto that very purpose, and as President Packer said about a year ago, "To honor the Constitution and to honor freedom is a sacred duty for all of us." “ I felt the Spirit tell me “Don’t say that”, and I skipped over that part of my testimony. But 2 months later, on the first Sunday in September, I felt impressed to say exactly that, loud and clear, after a member of our bishopric had just announced a Constitution Week activity in a neighboring town, and the stake president and other stake leaders were present.
Heres a new take
why not say you were recently communicating with an Australian LDS who used to detest the USA (for its in his words militaristic foreign policy)
then, as he saw his own freedoms being whittled away under the guise of this phoney "war on terror" he expressed how he only wishes he had protections that the US citizens have under their constitution.
his 14yr old son can be strip searched in the street by the police with no parent or lawyer being present.
and on and on
if only he had a 1st amendment, or a 4th
he says he can understand how the constitution HAD to be there to enable the church to be established and flourish
sadly, he shares my (im speaking for you here presumptuously now- apol) concerns that seeing how your freedoms are being similarly eroded, they dont seem to mean much anymore
at least we have the holy ghost to guide us through these awful times, and such quotes as Pres McKay, or others...that insert defending constitution is most important thing
no one can begrudge you that way to put it
yeah, church wont risk its tax free status, nor will it go on a limb.
its very republican too
more to the point tho, it knows if it says something then you go watch idiot LDS like some of the jokers here go out and shoot some abortionist doctor or politician
anyway, glad Wilford posted it.
its obvious anyway
we have a church of 3 groups
the inactives
the must be compelled, who are good at telling everyone else what to do
the others