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Original_Intent wrote:The book that made me say "HOLY ....." was "An Enemy Hath Done This" by ETB, but it is a long and slow read and not everyone has the patience to wade thru it. "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution" by H Verlan Anderson is easier to read and smaller, I think it could guide a lot of people into further investigation if they read it.
I really want to read the two "Awakening to our Awful Situation" books - does Deseret Book or Seagull carry them?
MasterOfNone wrote:My feeling is to suggest that members who are unaware of the true nature of secret combinations should read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" because it is short, well written and was suggested by Ezra Taft Benson.
However, I am wondering which LDS book forum members here would first give to interested members of the Church? Awakening to Our Awful Situation I?, Awakening to Our Awful Situation II?, Hiding In Plain Sight? Another?
Please advise.
Thank you.
MasterOfNone wrote:NDCC is available online (pdf) for free, but I wonder if anyone knows where I can get physically copies inexpensively or with bulk deals?
LDSConservative wrote:MasterOfNone wrote:NDCC is available online (pdf) for free, but I wonder if anyone knows where I can get physically copies inexpensively or with bulk deals?
I've found used inexpensive copies on amazon.com... not sure where you could get them in bulk. I wonder whether the author has renewed the copyright on it? or if the book is possibly in the public domain now, which means anyone could do a bulk printing of it.
ithink wrote:I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.
Original_Intent wrote:ithink wrote:I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.
Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.
Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.
For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.
Original_Intent wrote:No.
I understand most of those things, but I had to get there line upon line. You probably did too.
The OP asked for recommendations for books for unaware LDS. Books that they will not reject immediately because it is crazy conspiracy talk that may get them on the path to awaking up - and someday maybe understanding those things that you mentioned.
Or we can continue to do nothing, say all is lost, things will implode as you predict, but then we will still be stuck with a clueless bunch of people who have no idea of the correct principles to rebuild on. Or maybe the expectation is that all the stupid people will be dead?
Jason wrote:War is a Racket by Smedley Butler is bite sized and relevant...
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html
Thanks for the nutshell.....Scary really.Jason wrote:Original_Intent wrote:ithink wrote:I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.
Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.
Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.
For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.
Even then....okay....there are some secret combinations. It takes additional study of other works to fully gain an understanding of the scope and scale of the conspiracy as well as strategies and tactics.....and therefore ways to circumvent and defend against as much as possible.
People say they are awake....awake to what?
Do they understand that the CIA controls most of the global drug trade? Do they know our troops fight for the empire? Do they know our POWs were purposely left behind and forgotten....and attempts to get them home have been actively prevented? Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia? Do they know that America has supplied the "communists" with intelligence, technology, money, and food for nearly a hundred years in order to keep them alive and prospering? Do they know the wars are facades to gain power and control over the people with predetermined end points? Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet? Do they know that America is the whore of the earth? Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma? Do they know that their monetary system is designed to steal all of their wealth? Do they know that the last final thread of the Constitution is the franchise or "right" to vote? Or that most likely those votes aren't even counted? Do they know that the education system is a complete farce designed to kick out little employees indoctrinated with socialism, new age, or whatever else they want to throw at us? Or that all of the major media outlets have been compromised for nearly 100 years and all they get in the way of news is carefully prepared propaganda? Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals? Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?
LDSNZ wrote:Jason wrote:War is a Racket by Smedley Butler is bite sized and relevant...
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html
Thanx for the link Jason.
General Butler is a genius.
Squally wrote:Thanks for the nutshell.....Scary really.Jason wrote:Original_Intent wrote:Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.
Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.
For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.
Even then....okay....there are some secret combinations. It takes additional study of other works to fully gain an understanding of the scope and scale of the conspiracy as well as strategies and tactics.....and therefore ways to circumvent and defend against as much as possible.
People say they are awake....awake to what?
Do they understand that the CIA controls most of the global drug trade? Do they know our troops fight for the empire? Do they know our POWs were purposely left behind and forgotten....and attempts to get them home have been actively prevented? Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia? Do they know that America has supplied the "communists" with intelligence, technology, money, and food for nearly a hundred years in order to keep them alive and prospering? Do they know the wars are facades to gain power and control over the people with predetermined end points? Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet? Do they know that America is the whore of the earth? Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma? Do they know that their monetary system is designed to steal all of their wealth? Do they know that the last final thread of the Constitution is the franchise or "right" to vote? Or that most likely those votes aren't even counted? Do they know that the education system is a complete farce designed to kick out little employees indoctrinated with socialism, new age, or whatever else they want to throw at us? Or that all of the major media outlets have been compromised for nearly 100 years and all they get in the way of news is carefully prepared propaganda? Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals? Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?
Jason wrote:They tried a time or two to take him out.
Jason wrote:Same with Chesty Puller
Jason wrote:Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia?
Jason wrote:Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet?
Jason wrote:Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma?
Jason wrote:Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals?
Jason wrote:Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?
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