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Postby MasterOfNone » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:16 am

My feeling is to suggest that members who are unaware of the true nature of secret combinations should read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" because it is short, well written and was suggested by Ezra Taft Benson.

However, I am wondering which LDS book forum members here would first give to interested members of the Church? Awakening to Our Awful Situation I?, Awakening to Our Awful Situation II?, Hiding In Plain Sight? Another?

Please advise.

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Postby Original_Intent » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:46 am

The book that made me say "HOLY ....." was "An Enemy Hath Done This" by ETB, but it is a long and slow read and not everyone has the patience to wade thru it. "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution" by H Verlan Anderson is easier to read and smaller, I think it could guide a lot of people into further investigation if they read it.

I really want to read the two "Awakening to our Awful Situation" books - does Deseret Book or Seagull carry them?
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby MasterOfNone » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:04 am

Sorry, I was thinking of an introductory book on the conspiracy from an LDS perspective - I've read Anderson and Enemy, both great but they do not take things to the level of the puppeteers, so to speak. Mind you, I had to understand those things first so maybe they should be primers...bit long though.

The Monnett books are available via latterdayconservative.com.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Raindrop » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:05 am

I would second An Enemy Hath Done This, by Ezra Taft Benson.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby MasterOfNone » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:49 pm

As this book has come up, does anyone know if the chapter "United Nations - Planned Tyranny" (which was inspired by Ed Griffin's "Fearful Master" I believe) was an actual speech or article Ezra Taft Benson wrote or was it made specifically for the book?
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Like » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:17 pm

Don’t forget our own Chris Bentley books,The Hidden things Of Darkness, A Glorious Standard.

Just email or pm him to get your hands on the books. csbentley[@]sbcglobal[dot]net

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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby BrianM » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:57 pm

Awakening to Our Awful Situation (book 1)
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:59 pm

Original_Intent wrote:The book that made me say "HOLY ....." was "An Enemy Hath Done This" by ETB, but it is a long and slow read and not everyone has the patience to wade thru it. "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution" by H Verlan Anderson is easier to read and smaller, I think it could guide a lot of people into further investigation if they read it.

I really want to read the two "Awakening to our Awful Situation" books - does Deseret Book or Seagull carry them?


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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:01 pm

MasterOfNone wrote:My feeling is to suggest that members who are unaware of the true nature of secret combinations should read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" because it is short, well written and was suggested by Ezra Taft Benson.

However, I am wondering which LDS book forum members here would first give to interested members of the Church? Awakening to Our Awful Situation I?, Awakening to Our Awful Situation II?, Hiding In Plain Sight? Another?

Please advise.

Thank you.


Depends on the person...their starting point, philosophical background - political views, knowledge of history, knowledge of the BOM, etc etc etc.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Cowell » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:33 pm

Awakening to our awful situation, the original version: i.e., the BOOK OF MORMON!
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby pjbrownie » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:01 am

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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby MasterOfNone » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:36 am

You want me to introduce someone to the topic with an 8-pound, 1300-page tome? (Tragedy and Hope) ? :D
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Army Of Truth » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:27 am

I've loaned out "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" and "An Enemy Hath Done This" to a few friends in my ward and they loved them.
"Hiding in Plain Site" by Ken Bowers is also a good one.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby MasterOfNone » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:58 am

NDCC is available online (pdf) for free, but I wonder if anyone knows where I can get physically copies inexpensively or with bulk deals?
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby BrianM » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:04 pm

MasterOfNone wrote:NDCC is available online (pdf) for free, but I wonder if anyone knows where I can get physically copies inexpensively or with bulk deals?

I've found used inexpensive copies on amazon.com... not sure where you could get them in bulk. I wonder whether the author has renewed the copyright on it? or if the book is possibly in the public domain now, which means anyone could do a bulk printing of it.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby clarkkent14 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:56 pm

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MasterOfNone wrote:NDCC is available online (pdf) for free, but I wonder if anyone knows where I can get physically copies inexpensively or with bulk deals?

I've found used inexpensive copies on amazon.com... not sure where you could get them in bulk. I wonder whether the author has renewed the copyright on it? or if the book is possibly in the public domain now, which means anyone could do a bulk printing of it.


I would add appendix's for each of the President's Cabinet members showing just how full of Bilderbergers and CFR members are in each one.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby lundbaek » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:57 pm

I recommend "The Naked Capitalist", among the others suggested.

But people gotta wake up first.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby singyourwayhome » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:10 pm

I second the 'Book of Mormon' suggestion. Especially Helaman, 3rd Nephi, and Ether. Follow it with "The Proper Role of Government". That one's a nice bite-sized read.

Ken Bowers' book "Hiding in Plain Site" was suggested; he has a few books on the subject. The one I have is "Beneath the Tide: Who Really Runs the World?"
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:22 pm

War is a Racket by Smedley Butler is bite sized and relevant...
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html

Called to Serve by Bo Gritz is not bite sized but a good eye opener...

....my suggested reading list fwiw....
http://yophat.blogspot.com/2009/05/reading-list.html

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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby ithink » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:52 pm

I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Original_Intent » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:05 pm

ithink wrote:I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.


Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.

Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.

For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:22 pm

Original_Intent wrote:
ithink wrote:I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.


Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.

Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.

For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.


Even then....okay....there are some secret combinations. It takes additional study of other works to fully gain an understanding of the scope and scale of the conspiracy as well as strategies and tactics.....and therefore ways to circumvent and defend against as much as possible.

People say they are awake....awake to what?

Do they understand that the CIA controls most of the global drug trade? Do they know our troops fight for the empire? Do they know our POWs were purposely left behind and forgotten....and attempts to get them home have been actively prevented? Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia? Do they know that America has supplied the "communists" with intelligence, technology, money, and food for nearly a hundred years in order to keep them alive and prospering? Do they know the wars are facades to gain power and control over the people with predetermined end points? Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet? Do they know that America is the whore of the earth? Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma? Do they know that their monetary system is designed to steal all of their wealth? Do they know that the last final thread of the Constitution is the franchise or "right" to vote? Or that most likely those votes aren't even counted? Do they know that the education system is a complete farce designed to kick out little employees indoctrinated with socialism, new age, or whatever else they want to throw at us? Or that all of the major media outlets have been compromised for nearly 100 years and all they get in the way of news is carefully prepared propaganda? Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals? Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Original_Intent » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:39 pm

No.

I understand most of those things, but I had to get there line upon line. You probably did too.

The OP asked for recommendations for books for unaware LDS. Books that they will not reject immediately because it is crazy conspiracy talk that may get them on the path to awaking up - and someday maybe understanding those things that you mentioned.

Or we can continue to do nothing, say all is lost, things will implode as you predict, but then we will still be stuck with a clueless bunch of people who have no idea of the correct principles to rebuild on. Or maybe the expectation is that all the stupid people will be dead?
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:57 pm

Original_Intent wrote:No.

I understand most of those things, but I had to get there line upon line. You probably did too.

The OP asked for recommendations for books for unaware LDS. Books that they will not reject immediately because it is crazy conspiracy talk that may get them on the path to awaking up - and someday maybe understanding those things that you mentioned.

Or we can continue to do nothing, say all is lost, things will implode as you predict, but then we will still be stuck with a clueless bunch of people who have no idea of the correct principles to rebuild on. Or maybe the expectation is that all the stupid people will be dead?


.....I think circumstances will drive home lessons that will leave an impact for centuries to come!
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby LDSNZ » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:30 pm

Jason wrote:War is a Racket by Smedley Butler is bite sized and relevant...
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html


Thanx for the link Jason.

General Butler is a genius.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Squally » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:56 am

Jason wrote:
Original_Intent wrote:
ithink wrote:I'd say start with the Book of Mormon.


Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.

Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.

For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.


Even then....okay....there are some secret combinations. It takes additional study of other works to fully gain an understanding of the scope and scale of the conspiracy as well as strategies and tactics.....and therefore ways to circumvent and defend against as much as possible.

People say they are awake....awake to what?

Do they understand that the CIA controls most of the global drug trade? Do they know our troops fight for the empire? Do they know our POWs were purposely left behind and forgotten....and attempts to get them home have been actively prevented? Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia? Do they know that America has supplied the "communists" with intelligence, technology, money, and food for nearly a hundred years in order to keep them alive and prospering? Do they know the wars are facades to gain power and control over the people with predetermined end points? Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet? Do they know that America is the whore of the earth? Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma? Do they know that their monetary system is designed to steal all of their wealth? Do they know that the last final thread of the Constitution is the franchise or "right" to vote? Or that most likely those votes aren't even counted? Do they know that the education system is a complete farce designed to kick out little employees indoctrinated with socialism, new age, or whatever else they want to throw at us? Or that all of the major media outlets have been compromised for nearly 100 years and all they get in the way of news is carefully prepared propaganda? Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals? Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?
Thanks for the nutshell.....Scary really.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:05 am

LDSNZ wrote:
Jason wrote:War is a Racket by Smedley Butler is bite sized and relevant...
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html


Thanx for the link Jason.

General Butler is a genius.


Your welcome!

One of the most honored devildogs in history. They tried a time or two to take him out.

Same with Chesty Puller who is the most decorated Marine in history.
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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby Jason » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:06 am

Squally wrote:
Jason wrote:
Original_Intent wrote:Most LDS have read the Book of Mormon. I had read it several times and was not "awake" to the Gadianton's.

Then I read "The Book of Mormon and the Constitution". THEN I read the book of Mormon again...let's just say stuff was jumping off the page at me that I had never noticed before. All throughout the Book of Mormon - numerous places.

For me at least, it took somebody pointing out that there were a lot of messages in the Book of Mormon that I was not looking for before. It certainly very plainly said it, but why can people read it over and over and miss it. It's the boy and the donkey in the picture.


Even then....okay....there are some secret combinations. It takes additional study of other works to fully gain an understanding of the scope and scale of the conspiracy as well as strategies and tactics.....and therefore ways to circumvent and defend against as much as possible.

People say they are awake....awake to what?

Do they understand that the CIA controls most of the global drug trade? Do they know our troops fight for the empire? Do they know our POWs were purposely left behind and forgotten....and attempts to get them home have been actively prevented? Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia? Do they know that America has supplied the "communists" with intelligence, technology, money, and food for nearly a hundred years in order to keep them alive and prospering? Do they know the wars are facades to gain power and control over the people with predetermined end points? Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet? Do they know that America is the whore of the earth? Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma? Do they know that their monetary system is designed to steal all of their wealth? Do they know that the last final thread of the Constitution is the franchise or "right" to vote? Or that most likely those votes aren't even counted? Do they know that the education system is a complete farce designed to kick out little employees indoctrinated with socialism, new age, or whatever else they want to throw at us? Or that all of the major media outlets have been compromised for nearly 100 years and all they get in the way of news is carefully prepared propaganda? Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals? Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?
Thanks for the nutshell.....Scary really.


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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby LDSNZ » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:51 pm

Jason wrote:They tried a time or two to take him out.


Where can I read about that?

& I would too if I was a NWO or profiteering proponent.

Jason wrote:Same with Chesty Puller


Oh they tried to take him out too? If so where can I read about it?

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Re: Recommended books for unaware LDS?

Postby LDSNZ » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:08 pm

Jason wrote:Do they know America sent 4 to 6 million eastern Europeans to their deaths at the conclusion of WWII to pave the way for Russia?


Where can I read about that one? Or what book?

Jason wrote:Do they know that America has troops in over 160 countries on the planet?


I believe that, any suggestions of where I can go to confirm it? Please?

Jason wrote:Do they know that they are being systematically poisoned via food and pharma?


Kool, am glad I'm not the only one awake about those 2 things!

Jason wrote:Do they know they are within a hair's breadth of having an executive order go into effect creating a police state with 10 governors (corresponding to 10 FEMA regions) who answer to the Secretary of Defense who answers to the President? Do they know that if they resist the police state that they will be gathered up and taken to FEMA camps with like minded individuals?


Where can I read about that?


Jason wrote:Do they know that every spoken and written word is collected and analyzed by private and government entities?


Echelon?

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