Trump Is Exactly Where The Elites Want Him

[Silver]

. . . . There was only one candidate in the 2016 presidential election more distasteful than Trump. It was Hillary. The public simply chose the candidate the elites steered us towards. . . . .

Uh huh. Yup. Brilliant, Silver. These genius elites! That was some mighty sophisticated stearin', I gotta say. They must have used an incredibly sophisticated and subtle reverse psychology methodology.

But once again, you tip your hand w/your intense dislike of the man . . . so I guess your point of view makes a certain amount of sense. One can at least see where you're coming from.

Don't worry, Larsen. I'll leave the light on for you so you can find your way home. You'll realize some day how much you've had to compromise your values to be able to support a man like Trump.

[larsenb]

. . . . There was only one candidate in the 2016 presidential election more distasteful than Trump. It was Hillary. The public simply chose the candidate the elites steered us towards. . . . .

Uh huh. Yup. Brilliant, Silver. These genius elites! That was some mighty sophisticated stearin', I gotta say. They must have used an incredibly sophisticated and subtle reverse psychology methodology.

But once again, you tip your hand w/your intense dislike of the man . . . so I guess your point of view makes a certain amount of sense. One can at least see where you're coming from.

Don't worry, Larsen. I'll leave the light on for you so you can find your way home. You'll realize some day how much you've had to compromise your values to be able to support a man like Trump.

Not really. He is supporting my main political values directly or indirectly already. The simple fact is that if he turns out to be a shill and accomplishes next to nothing of his promised goals, then I will be disappointed, but won't take it personally. The onus would be entirely on him for lying about these things.

I'm one of those who don't confuse the Presidency and his cabinet or the houses of Congress as 2nd, 3rd and 4th Quorums of the Seventy, or being in competition with the Twelve.

I'm looking for very needed political action to scuttle globalism as much as possible, bring back manufacturing and jobs to the US, decrease Federal overreach (Trump is the only candidate I've heard that came out in support of ranchers vs. BLM/FBI and judicial tyranny), and an increase in support of our fundamental societal institutions, such as the family.

The most religious-type action I expect from him is for him to keep his promise on abrogating the Johnson Amendment to the 501C.3 regulations and requirements. I think he's learned his lesson about locker room talk and hopefully extra-marital affairs, if he was ever guilty of same.

[moonwhim]

Received this text from a liberal friend today:

Trump isn’t nominating C-level cabinet members! They’re A-level dismantlers: he’s nominating cabinet members whose task will be to gut the departments they oversee.
Trump doesn’t want to do government as usual. Trump wants to burn the whole thing down so business can run amok all over Americans.
Look at just a few of his choices:
...
Betsy DeVos - Department of Education: A sobering look at what Betsy DeVos did to education in Michigan — and what she might do as secretary of education This is a woman who might well leave the Department of Education a shell of its former self, a department in name only, that presides over nothing less than the dismantling of public education in the US.
Scott Pruitt - Environmental Protection Agency: Trump names Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma attorney general suing EPA on climate change, to head the EPA The EPA has the word protection in its name, but Mr. Pruitt is essentially interested in denying the greatest threat to the environment since the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, considering it as a hoax, a fallacy, and an impediment to American business.
Rex Tillerson - State Department: Trump picks Tillerson for secretary of state The State Department is tasked with maintaining diplomatic relationships with the countries of the world. It’s usually headed by someone who has been in government for decades and who has worked with foreign leaders in that capacity for some time. Colin Powell, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton - you know, people who know how government works. You have to know how government works to do this job well, because your job is to understand how your government and a foreign government mesh. So Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon, is a choice that can only be read as “Business is more important than relationships with the rest of the world.”
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If the Trump administration gets these picks confirmed (likely in most cases), there’s a good chance that these and other departments are gutted by the time Trump’s successor takes the reigns. Decades of work by Democrats and Republicans alike could be undone by this buffoon. Think about it: Reagan (Republican) used the State Department to bring down the USSR and end the Cold War. The EPA was instituted by Nixon (Republican) and has single-handedly kept species from extinction and protected America’s wilderness areas. And the department of education first became a cabinet-level department under Eisenhower (Republican) in 1953 (with health and welfare) and was further elevated to an independent entity by Carter (Democrat). This department has promoted educational goals for Republicans and Democrats alike for decades.
Crippling your own government is the height of stupidity, but then we should expect nothing less from
Trump.

[InfoWarrior82]

They certainly felt confident that Hillary was going to be installed using their previous tried-and-true methods of media manipulation combined with election fraud. The problem with these methods, is that it cannot overcome a landslide. Their stranglehold over the minds of the citizens is beginning to break. (Refer to the Wikileaks where the Hillary camp actually wanted Trump to the be nominee for the Repubs because they thought that he was the weakest candidate of them all).

But it is not just the American Elite that hate Trump. It's the world Elite.

In a hypothetical world without modern day gadiantons, Trump may just be an awful president all on his own. But honestly, my opinion is that the world elite are having a genuine meltdown over him.

Then I guess our definitions of the term "elite" differs. The elites I know would use assassination or blackmail to eliminate their problem. Your elites must have learned the Golden Rule in Primary.

I still think assassination is in the cards. Before or after inauguration. If not before, I think they will do everything they can to set the chessboard geo-politically so they can give him several "no-win" situations where he will be forced to play ball. If that all fails, we'll see another JFK/Reagan incident.

Trump is aware of the elites. He has had his financial hiney saved by them on multiple occasions. He has nominated elites to the Cabinet. He has socialized with the elites for most of his career. Are you trying to tell me that you now believe Trump is somehow going to turn his back on those same elites and go patriotic on them? That Trump has weighed the cost to himself and his family and said he will return the country to Constitutional principles no matter what? That he'll end the Federal Reserve and destroy private banking? That he'll shutter all the unconstitutional departments of government?

That sort of thinking requires such a monumental suspension of disbelief. There was only one candidate in the 2016 presidential election more distasteful than Trump. It was Hillary. The public simply chose the candidate the elites steered us towards.

Finally, consider Trump's military choices. What have they accomplished? Warmongering Americans walk around bragging about having the world's mightiest military and yet we can't win a single war since WW2. More like tuck tail and run is all we've done. The generals that Trump chose have presided over a travesty in military operations. Why couldn't they win if they're so good? Or if it was a no-win situation why didn't they demand that our sons and daughters be taken out of harm's way? Because those generals like their paychecks courtesy of the bankers that finance our wars.

It's hard to convince a man of the truth when his paycheck depends on believing something else.

Those are definitely good points about his wealth being amassed by being on the good side of the corrupt elites. It would be extremely tempting to not let your income lifeline be cut off. Also, good points about appointing some "insiders" to his cabinet. Maybe it's a head-fake and will swap them out after inauguration? Maybe not.

[Silver]

Received this text from a liberal friend today:

Trump isn’t nominating C-level cabinet members! They’re A-level dismantlers: he’s nominating cabinet members whose task will be to gut the departments they oversee.
Trump doesn’t want to do government as usual. Trump wants to burn the whole thing down so business can run amok all over Americans.
Look at just a few of his choices:
...
Betsy DeVos - Department of Education: A sobering look at what Betsy DeVos did to education in Michigan — and what she might do as secretary of education This is a woman who might well leave the Department of Education a shell of its former self, a department in name only, that presides over nothing less than the dismantling of public education in the US.
Scott Pruitt - Environmental Protection Agency: Trump names Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma attorney general suing EPA on climate change, to head the EPA The EPA has the word protection in its name, but Mr. Pruitt is essentially interested in denying the greatest threat to the environment since the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, considering it as a hoax, a fallacy, and an impediment to American business.
Rex Tillerson - State Department: Trump picks Tillerson for secretary of state The State Department is tasked with maintaining diplomatic relationships with the countries of the world. It’s usually headed by someone who has been in government for decades and who has worked with foreign leaders in that capacity for some time. Colin Powell, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton - you know, people who know how government works. You have to know how government works to do this job well, because your job is to understand how your government and a foreign government mesh. So Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon, is a choice that can only be read as “Business is more important than relationships with the rest of the world.”
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If the Trump administration gets these picks confirmed (likely in most cases), there’s a good chance that these and other departments are gutted by the time Trump’s successor takes the reigns. Decades of work by Democrats and Republicans alike could be undone by this buffoon. Think about it: Reagan (Republican) used the State Department to bring down the USSR and end the Cold War. The EPA was instituted by Nixon (Republican) and has single-handedly kept species from extinction and protected America’s wilderness areas. And the department of education first became a cabinet-level department under Eisenhower (Republican) in 1953 (with health and welfare) and was further elevated to an independent entity by Carter (Democrat). This department has promoted educational goals for Republicans and Democrats alike for decades.
Crippling your own government is the height of stupidity, but then we should expect nothing less from
Trump.

We shouldn't be surprised that the liberals use the same scare tactics as the neo-cons to drive donations and to sell their services, books & newsletters.

[larsenb]

Received this text from a liberal friend today:

Trump isn’t nominating C-level cabinet members! They’re A-level dismantlers: he’s nominating cabinet members whose task will be to gut the departments they oversee.
Trump doesn’t want to do government as usual. Trump wants to burn the whole thing down so business can run amok all over Americans.
Look at just a few of his choices:
...
Betsy DeVos - Department of Education: A sobering look at what Betsy DeVos did to education in Michigan — and what she might do as secretary of education This is a woman who might well leave the Department of Education a shell of its former self, a department in name only, that presides over nothing less than the dismantling of public education in the US.
Scott Pruitt - Environmental Protection Agency: Trump names Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma attorney general suing EPA on climate change, to head the EPA The EPA has the word protection in its name, but Mr. Pruitt is essentially interested in denying the greatest threat to the environment since the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, considering it as a hoax, a fallacy, and an impediment to American business.
Rex Tillerson - State Department: Trump picks Tillerson for secretary of state The State Department is tasked with maintaining diplomatic relationships with the countries of the world. It’s usually headed by someone who has been in government for decades and who has worked with foreign leaders in that capacity for some time. Colin Powell, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton - you know, people who know how government works. You have to know how government works to do this job well, because your job is to understand how your government and a foreign government mesh. So Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon, is a choice that can only be read as “Business is more important than relationships with the rest of the world.”
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If the Trump administration gets these picks confirmed (likely in most cases), there’s a good chance that these and other departments are gutted by the time Trump’s successor takes the reigns. Decades of work by Democrats and Republicans alike could be undone by this buffoon. Think about it: Reagan (Republican) used the State Department to bring down the USSR and end the Cold War. The EPA was instituted by Nixon (Republican) and has single-handedly kept species from extinction and protected America’s wilderness areas. And the department of education first became a cabinet-level department under Eisenhower (Republican) in 1953 (with health and welfare) and was further elevated to an independent entity by Carter (Democrat). This department has promoted educational goals for Republicans and Democrats alike for decades.
Crippling your own government is the height of stupidity, but then we should expect nothing less from
Trump.

The Department of Education needs to be dismantled; at least to the level of just serving in an impartial advisory capacity, where it is divested of government-driven politically tainted agendas and requirements.

This person is also confused about the origins of the Department of Education, which was voted and signed into law under Jimmy Carter in 1979, Sen. Orrin Hatch being one of those approving it, despite denying he did in a town hall meeting in Bountiful about 4-5 years ago.

And global warming? A highly politicized agenda designed to increase higher-level control; with the carbon tax being one of the abuses. Of course, Al Gore doesn't think so.