Trump = Traitor, Part 2

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Silver wrote: February 27th, 2017, 1:31 pm "SteveM says:
February 27, 2017 at 8:26 am
Re: “Trump likely would have seen his vision of a more restrained America overseas thrown out and replaced by the neoconservative, reflexively interventionist positions that he campaigned against so ferociously.”

That statement appears to be OBE with Mattis, Pompeo and McMaster whispering sweet Neocon nothings into Trump’s ear. Apparently, Trump is all ears. With that crew of Military Svengalis in place, who needs Bolton to continue the war-monger model?

Trump’s ostensible policy of a “more restrained America overseas” is already dead and buried. A burial wildly applauded by the sclerotic Congress saturated with Neocon war-mongers like the celebrated but atrocious Tom Cotton and the oily Marco Rubio. The played for chumps Breitbart Bots are also frothed up with anticipatory delight of more Trillion dollar War Machine high jinks.

With Nikki Haley playing the bellicose Neocon harridan at the UN fully showing Trump’s hand early on. And toss in Trump’s intent to not only not save the taxpayers some dollars by reining in the Global Cop shenanigans, he wants to throw even more money at the bloated Security State. With the cherry on top of Trump’s Neocon sundae being a new and very expensive nuclear arms race with Russia.

Yes, John Bolton may have to cheer from the sidelines, but he’ll be cheering nonetheless."

From: https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... istration/

Man, I wish I could write like that.
Me too!

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Perhaps there's still hope for the Rothschild nominee, Wilbur Ross.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-0 ... acrons-egg

Video included.

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Silver plies his lonely trade.

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Must get lonely in here. 👀

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"Yet ironically, it was none other than the Trump administration which just earlier this week announced it supports the renewal of spy law which incorporates the FISA court, without reforms: "the Trump administration does not want to reform an internet surveillance law to address privacy concerns, a White House official told Reuters on Wednesday, saying it is needed to protect national security. The announcement could put President Donald Trump on a collision course with Congress, where some Republicans and Democrats have advocated curtailing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, parts of which are due to expire at the end of the year."

"We support the clean reauthorization and the administration believes it's necessary to protect the security of the nation," the official said on condition of anonymity.

The FISA law has been criticized by privacy and civil liberties advocates as allowing broad, intrusive spying. It gained renewed attention following the 2013 disclosures by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden that the agency carried out widespread monitoring of emails and other electronic communications." (close quote)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-0 ... ave-last-l

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Did Obama order the wiretapping of Trump prior to the 2016 presidential election?

1. If yes, was it illegal?
2. If it was illegal, why is Obama doing a Jon Corzine?
3. If no, why is Trump saying that Obama did the deed?

My battling Gadiantons theory is gaining traction.

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Of course it was the Republicans, even though they were in the majority in the House, who sent the NDAA of 2012 to Obama for his signature so we shouldn't be surprised that they are now once again plotting our destruction. Let Trump call them out, if he will.

Seems mighty suspicious that Trump, who was talking total repeal during the campaign and has had months to prepare some new plan (Hey, you dictators in Washington, instead of a plan, why don't you exit healthcare totally and let the individual decide what is best for himself?) still has nothing to show. Yep, that sinking feeling you're having is confirmation that ol' Uncle Silver was right all along.

Lots of cool pics at the link:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-0 ... ement-plan

What Are Republicans Hiding In Obamacare Replacement Plan?
by Tyler Durden
Mar 5, 2017 7:50 PM

Via S.M.Gibson of TheAntiMedia.org,

Remember when Nancy Pelosi famously declared, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it?” She was, of course, referring to the Affordable Care Act, AKA Obamacare, and was justly skewered by “conservatives” at the time for the outlandish statement. Fast forward seven years, and now it’s the Republicans doing the exact same thing.

The GOP has chosen to conceal the text of what may become the replacement for Obamacare. Not only can you – someone the bill will most definitely affect – not read it. Members of the U.S. Senate are not even allowed to see what is contained in the legislation.

Senator Rand Paul, who is advocating for a complete repeal of the ACA, has made repeated attempts to view what he refers to as “Obamacare Lite,” but has still been unable to get his hands on a copy of the bill. The Kentucky senator has even gone so far as to wheel a copy machine to where he was told the bill was being housed. Paul, a Republican, was denied access.

The secrecy should be enough to alarm citizens across the U.S. and cause the public to demand to see what kind of health care reform may be about to be shoved down their throats. But what Senator Paul believes the bill contains is the most distressing part of this story.

“When we heard it was secret, we wanted to see it even more because if something is secret, you do worry that people are hiding things,” Paul said speaking to CNN.
He continued:

“What we think is being hidden from conservatives is that there’s a lot of Obamacare lite in their bill. There’s a new entitlement program that will increase at about 5 percent a year forever. There is also a Cadillac tax, or something similar to the Cadillac tax that was in ObamaCare. And there’s also an individual mandate, believe it or not. Instead of paying the mandate to the government, they’re going to tell you that you have to pay the mandate by law to an insurance company.”
So basically, If you like being fined by the government for not purchasing a service, you’re going to be able to keep your fine — except instead of paying a penalty to the government, you’ll pay a private corporation.

Sounds like more of the same from Washington, but worse.

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If the CIA is not "SplinterItIntoAThousandPiecesAndScatterItIntoTheWinds" you will know that Trump is an Insider.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-0 ... am-eastern

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Trump chooses another NWO guy?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... -to-russia

Trump Reportedly Selects Huntsman As U.S. Ambassador To Russia
March 9, 20178:04 AM ET
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Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. would face Senate confirmation before his selection as the U.S. ambassador to Russia becomes official.
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President Trump has reportedly offered former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman the job of U.S. ambassador to Russia. Huntsman has been a U.S. ambassador twice before, in Singapore (1992-1993) and China (2009-2011).

Like all ambassadorships, the position requires Senate confirmation — but the diplomatic posting to Moscow was expected to face particular scrutiny in light of ongoing investigations into Russia's attempts to meddle in U.S. politics and reports of repeated contacts between Trump's campaign and Russian officials.

Responding to reports of Huntsman's selection, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov says the Kremlin would welcome any U.S. ambassador who wants to create a dialogue with Russia.

From Moscow, Charles Maynes reports for NPR's Newscast unit:

"Yet some in Moscow aren't so sure Huntsman meets that bar. Russian Sen. Alexei Pushkov pointed to Huntsman's recent work as head of the Atlantic Council think tank, where criticism of Russia suggested that as ambassador Huntsman would, in his words, 'be no dove.'
"After openly celebrating Donald Trump's election victory as a breakthrough in U.S.-Russian relations, Moscow has since adopted a more cautious tone. Russian officials argue that several investigations into Kremlin interference in the election, as well as alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Moscow, have forced the Trump White House to abandon its goal of improving relations."
Speaking to reporters Thursday, Peskov said that the choice of ambassadors is up to Trump, adding, "We have no intention to meddle in these internal affairs."

Back in the summer of 2011, Huntsman entered the race for the Republican presidential nomination; he dropped out in January of 2012. At the time, Trump was a vocal critic.

Weeks after Huntsman ended his presidential bid, Trump tweeted: "Jon Huntsman called to see me. I said no, he gave away our country to China!"

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Trump Picks Batshit Crazy Critic of Russia as NATO Ambassador
http://www.targetliberty.com/2017/03/tr ... ic-of.html
Zaid Jilani at The Intercept writes:
President Trump has reportedly tapped as his ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) a hawkish critic of Russia who wants the U.S. to arm Ukraine...

Richard Grennell is a former Bush-era U.S. spokesperson at the United Nations who also served as a foreign policy spokesperson for Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. He frequently appears on Fox News and other conservative outlets saying President Obama appeased Russia.

Following Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Obama resisted political pressure from hawks in Congress to provide lethal arms to the Ukranian government, fearing that doing so would only cause Russia to escalate its own military involvement.

Writing in The New York Times’s Room for Debate section in 2014, Grenell said that Obama’s belief that the U.S. could “support Ukraine but not antagonize Russia” represented “a naïve and dangerous world view.” In a Fox News op-ed, he proposed military escalation: “Offer advice and training to Ukraine, and sell it the lethal weapons required to contend with Russian armored personnel carriers, tanks and missiles,” he wrote, adding that the U.S. should also restart missile defense shield programs in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Grennell also counseled Obama to leave direct military confrontation with Russia over Ukraine “on the table.”...

Although his support for arming Ukraine stretches back years, Grenell was continuing to advocate for lethal aid for Ukraine as recently as Tuesday via his Twitter account, which he frequently uses to opine on world affairs.
Trump is just bad on most policy issues, domestic and foreign. He is frighteningly militaristic and authoritarian. No doubt libertarian Trump fanboys will continue to find stretched reasons to support him and may actually continue to claim that Trump is going to disband NATO, but I consider him radioactive for libertarianism and I am not sure anymore that this is just a metaphorical reference.

But, hey, he's good on federal transgender bathroom regulation issues.

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16 ¶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

In this thread alone we have "A proud look" "An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations" "feet that be swift in running to mischief" and "he that soweth discord among brethren."

So much for gospel teachings. :-? :-ss

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The John Birch Society is asking the right questions now. See, a traitor is a person who swears to do one thing but does the opposite.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/f ... into-syria

Thursday, 09 March 2017
Obama Redux? Trump Sends Marines, Rangers Into Syria
Written by William F. Jasper


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Obama Redux? Trump Sends Marines, Rangers Into Syria
President Trump has deployed Marines attached to the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit and soldiers from the U.S. Army’s 75th Ranger Regiment to Syria to intensify the assault of American-backed forces on Raqqa, the capital city of the Islamic State (ISIS).

The precise number of Marines and Rangers involved has not been released by the Pentagon, nor has the timing of their deployment been revealed. According to various news reports, the American units began deployment to Syria several weeks ago. The websites of the Departments of Defense and State, as well as those of the Army and Marines, do not mention the actions. Spokesmen for the DOD and DOS did not get back to The New American with additional information before our publishing deadline.

News of the move first appeared yesterday in the Washington Post, which reported that the new Marine mission “was disclosed after members of the Army’s elite 75th Ranger Regiment appeared in the Syrian city of Manbij over the weekend in Strykers — heavily armed, eight-wheel armored vehicles. Defense officials said they are there to discourage Syrian or Turkish troops from making any moves that could shift the focus away from an assault on Islamic State militants.”

“A defense official would not speak to the size of the detachment deployed to Syria, but said it included elements of multiple artillery batteries, as well as support personnel, including infantry Marines,” Military.com reported today. “It's the first time American artillery support capability has been on the ground in Syria since the fight against the Islamic State began in 2014.”

The Military.com report continued:

The Marines are equipped with M777 155mm howitzers, which can fire high-explosive rounds, effective at a range of more than 14 miles, or GPS-guided Excalibur rounds, which have an effective radius of up to 25 miles. They are there to provide capabilities for the commanders of the joint task force leading the ISIS fight and to support the push into Raqqa, the official said.

This is the second time in just over a year that a Marine artillery detachment has been deployed from a MEU in support of the ground fight against ISIS militants. In March 2016, more than 100 Marines departed the 26th MEU to establish Fire Base Bell, an artillery position in northern Iraq set up to provide support as ground troops prosecuted an assault on the ISIS stronghold of Mosul.

An Associated Press story late today from Beirut reported that “Air Force Col. John Dorrian said the U.S. force consisting of a couple of hundred Marines that arrived in the region south of the Syrian-Turkish border on Wednesday will not have any frontline roles but will provide artillery fire to support the advance of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces [SDF].”

Col. Dorrian, a spokesman for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve, the coalition prosecuting the ISIS fight, told the AP via a telephone interview that the SDF "made excellent progress and the enemy hasn't been able to stop them from doing the things that they set out to do." Dorrian further added that SDF fighters have so far captured about 6,400 square kilometers (2,471 square miles) of terrain from IS.

"That's excellent progress," Dorrian told AP, noting that SDF fighters have also cut many supply lines used by IS to try to either escape from the city "or to have fighters leave the area and conduct terrorist operations elsewhere away from Iraq and Syria." According to the AP report, “Dorrian said the SDF will need a ‘few more weeks’ to completely isolate Raqqa and a decision will be made about the timing ‘of the liberation battle to begin.’"

During his Joint Address to Congress on February 28, 2017, President Trump declared: “As promised, I directed the Department of Defense to develop a plan to demolish and destroy ISIS — a network of lawless savages that have slaughtered Muslims and Christians, and men, women, and children of all faiths and beliefs. We will work with our allies, including our friends and allies in the Muslim world, to extinguish this vile enemy from our planet.”

ISIS is indeed a vile enemy. However, President Trump should be made to answer some very important questions concerning this latest deployment of U.S. military forces to a far-flung corner of the globe, the same pressing questions we directed at previous administrations (both Republican and Democrat) that have sacrificed American blood and treasure in foreign wars in the name of fighting terrorism. Questions, President Trump, such as:

• Did you ask for and receive a declaration of war from Congress, as the Constitution requires? The question is rhetorical, in that we know no such congressional declaration was made. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives to Congress — not the president — the power “to declare war.” And even though Congress has been criminally remiss in allowing presidents to usurp this power, President Trump is still bound by this crucial constitutional restraint.

• Did you provide any evidence that, in lieu of a congressional declaration of war, there exists a dire immediate threat from ISIS to America to justify this action? In the debates of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, as well as in the Federalist Papers, the Founders recognized that the president may need to act by executive authority to repel an invasion without seeking permission from Congress. However, we have been offered no argument or evidence that the deployment of troops to Syria is aimed at averting any immediate threat to Americans.

• Is the charge that ISIS is “a network of lawless savages that have slaughtered Muslims and Christians, and men, women, and children of all faiths and beliefs” sufficient to engage in an undeclared, undefined, open-ended war? What about al-Qaeda, Boco Haram, Hizb ut-Tahrir, Hezbollah, Hamas, Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Quds Force, and other groups that also fit your description of “lawless savages”? Does this not continue the endless “war on terror” of President Obama and his predecessors that you gave every indication of ending?

• Will this “temporary” involvement in Syria become another permanent quagmire? Thousands of American troops, advisers, special operators, pilots, and other military personnel are still stationed in Afghanistan. However, you, President Trump, have indicated that rather than pulling our troops out of Afghanistan, you intend to increase our troop levels there. How much longer will this go on?

• Will the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) we are supporting in Syria prove any better than the false “allies” we supported in Egypt, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan? The SDF coalition is dominated by the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which has been designated for many years as a terrorist group by the United States, NATO, and the European Union. The other dominant force in the SDF is the People's Protection Units (YPG), which is merely a militia adjunct to the communist/terrorist PKK. The PKK/YPG are hardcore Marxist-Leninists who for decades called for the establishment of a Marxist-Leninist state and emblazoned the communist hammer and sickle on their red flag. Are these really the “freedom fighters” that are going to save us from ISIS? Will we end up fighting them, as we have many of our other false allies?

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For those who bothered paying attention, Trump was a known quantity way in advance.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/p ... s-ideology

Friday, 22 April 2011
Donald Trump's Ideology
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When potential Presidential candidate Donald Trump was asked by George Stephanopoulos, host of ABC's "Good Morning America", what he would do, as President, about soaring gasoline prices, he replied:

Look at whats going on with your gasoline prices. They're going to go to $5, $6, $7 and we don't have anybody in Washington that calls OPEC and says, Fellas, its time. Its over. Youre not going to do it anymore. I don't know if you saw yesterday, Saudi Arabia came out and said very strongly there's plenty of oil. Were going to cut back. You know what cutting back means? They're going to drive up the price even further.

Stephanopoulos: So, what would you do to back up that threat?

Trump: Oh, its so easy, George. Its so easy. Its all about the messenger. They would even be there if it wasn't for us. If it weren't for us, they wouldn't be there. These 12 guys sit around a table and they say, Lets just s***w the United States. And frankly, the rest of the world.

Stephanopoulos: And so finish this sentence: If you dont produce more oil

Trump: Look. I'm going to look em in the eye and say, Fellas, you've had your fun. Your fun is over.

Stephanopoulos: So, you would threaten to take away that [security] protection?

Trump: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Lets let me tell you something. Oil prices might go down. Because there's plenty of oil, all over the world. Ships at sea. They don't know where to dump it. I saw a report yesterday. There's so much oil, all over the world, they don't even know where to dump it. And Saudi Arabia says, Oh, there's too much oil. They they came back yesterday. Did you see the report? They want to reduce oil production. Do you think they're our friends? They're not our friends.

Then Stephanopoulos asked what Trump would do about the Iraq oil fields. Trump responded:

George, let me explain something to you. We go into Iraq. We have spent thus far, $1.5 trillion. We could have rebuilt half of the United States. $1.5 trillion. And were going to then leave? So, in the old days, you know, when you had a war, to the victor belong the spoils. You go in. You win the war and you take it.

Stephanopoulos: So, we steal an oil field?

Trump: Excuse me. You're not stealing. Excuse me. You're not stealing anything. You're taking were reimbursing ourselves at least, at a minimum, and I say more. Were taking back $1.5 trillion to reimburse ourselves.

Even the most casual observer can see what The Donald would do to what remains of American foreign policy: Whats our oil doing under your sand? Its ours. Were coming to take it. In a special letter to his subscribers, Doug Casey exclaimed: Someone needs to debunk him hes dangerous!

He thinks hes a capitalist because hes been a winner in the marketplace. But cutting deals with his banking and political buddies to make money in real estate, and using borrowed money while the property bubble was still inflating, is not like building a whole new business as Steven Jobs has done. And it doesn't make him knowledgeable about economics. He believes in tariffs and quotas and all sorts of government interventions

If The Donald somehow became president, he would make the U.S. even more controlled, with an even stronger, more intrusive government. He'd be a disaster in every way possible.

He says hes got no great interest in Iraq, except that we should [get] their oil this would repay us for freeing them from their tyrant.

Anyway, the idiocy and ethical paucity of Trumps view that we should take other peoples resources is staggering. Its essentially the theft of resources, just because you want them, and you can.

Trump has an opinion on other issues as well. In his book The America We Deserve, published in 2000, he favored national health insurance: We must have universal healthcare. I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses. And when he spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington in February, he told the audience I will fight to end Obamacare and replace it, replace it with something that makes sense for people in business and not bankrupt the country. (emphasis added)

Hes also pro-life. According to David Brody, Trump has changed his views from pro-choice to pro-life. In an interview with Trump, he said: I changed my mind a number of years ago. One of the reasons I changed one of the primary reasons a friends wife was pregnant and he didn't really want the baby.

He was crying as he was telling me this story. He ends up having the baby, and the baby is the apple of his eye. Its the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this and I [became] pro-life.

Hes also pro-Republican and pro-Democrat. Since 1990, Trump has made financial contributions to 96 candidates exactly half of them were Republicans, and the other half Democrats. The man seems to have no shame. In the most recent election cycle, he sent $13,600 to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and $12,000 to Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ..). He contributed $4,000 to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY..). In the past, Trump has contributed to the campaigns of Sen. Ted Kennedy, Sen. John Kerry, Sen. Tom Daschle, and then-Sen. Joe Biden. Of the $420,000 Trump has donated to campaign committees, the largest recipient has been the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee with $116,000 or more than one fourth of his total contributions to all party and political action committees, according to OpenSecrets.org.

The biggest thing Trump has going for him is his ego. In a recent interview with Sean Hannity, he explained why his recent poll numbers were so high:

Well, I think I'm known as a really good businessman and I am. And by the way, if I run, I will have to disclose my finances, and my finances are phenomenal much better than anyone knows.

You know, they know I'm rich Ive done a great job Ive made a lot of great decisions. And that will be disclosed if and when I decide to run. And I actually look forward to that it will be I think a very positive thing.

Look, I think Im a great negotiator. I think Ill do a better job than anybody because Im really a great negotiator I know how to negotiate. I know how people are ripping us off I know why they're ripping us off, and I know how to solve the problem.

The obvious lack of conservative bona-fides doesn't seem to bother many people. A Tea Party supporter, Doug Giles, wrote ecstatically:

I think the Trump Rebellion is delicious. Its injecting attitude and information, not via some tepid politico but by via a mogul who has had enough of Barack's bunkum, who gets the socialistic game Hussein is foisting on us, and who hates countries who hate and use us. Trump is probably the only one with the money (or could get the sufficient cash) to go up against this Soros-funded reelection hell machine.

Giles is far from alone. Everett Wilkinson of the South Florida Tea Party was delighted to have Trump speak at their recent Tax Day Rally: Our members are ecstatic. They feel that Donald Trump understands whats going on with their country and is standing up and actually doing something about it, he said.

Another member of that committee, Danita Kilcullen added: I think its a great idea that Trumps speaking to the Tea Party. At least hes bold, and he speaks out, and hes willing to speak his peace, and hes willing to take a beating for what he says from the other side. Hes got guts. Polls continue to show growing support for Trump. The Democrat-oriented Public Policy Polling showed Trump with a favorable/unfavorable rating of 31/53 in the middle of February. A mere six weeks later, their new poll showed him with a 40/33 rating an astonishing net approval gain of 29 points.

Doug Casey is frightened of Trump. In his newsletter, Casey explained:

I think [Trump] does have a high IQ, but I think hes how shall I put this? I think hes mildly deranged. Hes actually, clinically speaking, a megalomaniac. His arrogance is just overwhelming. This is an extremely dangerous person to have running a country with a large military. Itd be my way or the highway. Hes the kind of person who'd be willing to start a war almost anywhere, with almost anyone, if he thought it would be to his advantage.

He has no principles that would restrain him, no guiding philosophical principles at all. Hes totally unscrupulous. He'd wind up doing whatever seemed like a good idea at the time, as long as it was his idea, because he thinks hes always right. Hes a complete pragmatist, but not even a very thoughtful one.

Its as Ive always said about the Roman emperors: People thought it couldn't get any worse after Tiberius, but then they got Claudius, then Caligula. They really thought it couldn't get any worse than that and then they got Nero.

Donald Trump has caught the imagination of an increasing number of the electorate. Lets hope that in their zeal to run anybody who can oust Obama that they don't wind up replacing him with someone equally bad, or even worse.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-1 ... ow-exactly

Meatheads never ask the obvious questions. Mental arithmetic requiring independent thought being something strongly discouraged.

What sort of wall? Concrete? Wire fencing? If so, how much?

How will the materials get there? Take a look, there are no roads in much of the territory.

Who builds it? Mexicans?

What about housing for what will have to be a sizeable workforce? What about water, food, medical supplies?

How high? Not high enough and a USD10 ladder trumps (pun intended) a multi billion dollar wall.

What about tunnels under it? Smugglers, after all, have been tunneling for years where the wall already exists. Reminds me of Einstein's definition of insanity. Why would they stop what already works?

Then there's the little issue of this being 2,000km of wall. That's an awful lot of wall. Wall that has to go through private land which begs the question. What about imminent domain?

What about the environment protection agency and the mating habits of the endangered red-eared slider?

Has any of this been thought about? Did voters, in their desperate desire to rid themselves of the sclerotic, nepotistic, basilisk and the establishment she represents, bother to ask themselves these questions?

The US Department of Homeland Theatre Security estimate the wall will cost USD21.6 billion and take more than 3.5 years to build. Trump doesn't think so.

'It'll get done so quickly your head will spin.'
Guess we'll see. Anyway, considering government estimates I think it's safe to double both of these figures - USD44 Billion and 7 years sounds about right then. That's bigger than the GDP of Slovenia, it's twice that of Iceland, and 3 times that of Jamaica. Personally, I'd rather just buy Jamaica, lie in the sun and collect all the rum revenues while stashing a little in the cellar, of course. But then, I'm not running the mess show.

I wonder: Did Trump think through the fact that the US has a pact with Mexico on shared water rights? Did he know one existed before making this part of his campaign? Annoyingly, he's failed to brief me but I have my suspicions he didn't.

The same report estimates that this agreement alone could bring the cost from USD11 million per mile to USD15 million per mile in one area.

This is the Rio Grande. Perhaps many Americans haven't been down here or thought about this much. You gonna build a wall here?
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This doozy sits in the report, too:

"It also does not account for major physical barriers, like mountains, in areas where it would not be feasible to build."
Take another look at the Rio Grande. This, folks, isn't merely a 2x on opex estimation. Just sayin'...

So what's up with Trump? Can he not do arithmetic? Does he simply speak like most politicians (lie)? Or does he simply shoot from the lip.

Has he looked at the fact that more Mexicans are leaving than entering the United States?

That a Mexican border wall is impractical, impossible, ludicrously expensive, and will create (rather than solve) the problems it's purported to solve but that won't stop Washington from doing what Washington does: stupid things.

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Are you tired of winning yet?

Of course, anybody with half a brain would have known that Trump was doing what all politicians do: saying whatever the public wanted to hear just to get elected, but now we have to live with the deception. Latest example: healthcare. So, if you will recall, Trump had a plan that was "beautiful" and "huge" and "beautifully huge" and "hugely beautiful" and "Obamacare will be repealed on my first day in office." Turns out it ain't all flowers and puppy dogs. See the link below and the opening snippet pasted below.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-1 ... are-repeal

After CBO's much-anticipated estimate of the GOP's Obamacare replacement proposal showed that the legislation could result in as many as 24 million Americans losing coverage by 2026, we wondered just how much of an additional bottleneck this report would present to the already conflicted passage of the controversial "Trumpcare." We got the answer overnight, when Goldman's government economists Alec Phillips said that the CBO scoring would likely slow the passage of the Obamacare repeal process. Specifically, he said that "CBO’s estimates of the Obamacare replacement legislation's effects on coverage were somewhat worse than expectations and suggest changes are likely to be necessary before the bill can pass the Senate. We continue to expect enactment of ACA replacement this year but probably not by the early April deadline that Republican leaders have highlighted." And since the Obamacare process timeline is closely tied to Trump's tax reform, a delay in the former, will mean yet another delay in the latter, leading to further market disappointments, which however so far have yet to materialize as the "market" seems oblivious of the practical realities of Trump's economic policies.

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NEPOTISM WINNING

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-2 ... government

President Trump is reportedly creating a new position for his son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner.

The newly formed White House Office of American Innovation will leverage business ideas and potentially privatize some government functions, according to Reuters, as Kushner says:

"The government should be run like a great American company. Our hope is that we can achieve successes and efficiencies for our customers, who are the citizens,"


In a statement to the Post, Trump said:

"I promised the American people I would produce results, and apply my ‘ahead of schedule, under budget’ mentality to the government."
Some of the areas he will focus on are veterans' care, opioid addiction, technology and data infrastructure, workforce training and infrastructure, according to the report.

Kushner has been a regular presence at his father-in-law's side and was earlier cleared by the Justice Department to serve as a White House senior adviser even as Democrats raised concerns about his potential conflicts of interest.



Kushner's move comes one week after Ivanka Trump received her own office in the White House along with access to classified information and a government-issued phone after aides earlier said she would not take on a role in her father's White House.



While we are sure Mr Kushner is eminently qualified for this role, we can't help but feel a tinge of 'keep it in the family' angst as nepotism continues to rear its ugly head.

However, what is more fascinating is that this new role was assigned just as Kushner faces questions over his Russian dealings... (as Axios summarizes)

The NYTimes has a story this morning on Jared Kushner being summoned before the Senate Intelligence Committee to answer questions on his meetings with Russian officials and Kremlin-linked businessmen.

Kushner arranged a meeting with Kislyak in early December that was also attended by Trump's short-lived national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who was fired after misrepresenting his contacts with the ambassador.

Later that month, the Times reported, Kislyak requested a second meeting, which Kushner asked a deputy to attend. The Russian ambassador asked that Kushner meet with Sergei Gorkov, head of Vnesheconombank, which was also sanctioned by the European Union after Russian interference in Ukraine.

The New York Times first reported the committee's request and details of the meetings with the Russians.
As WSJ reports, both the White House and a spokeswoman for Intelligence committee chairman Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, confirmed that Mr. Kushner had agreed to meet with the panel, owing to his role as the primary point of contact during Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign with foreign governments.

“Throughout the campaign and transition, Jared Kushner served as the official primary point of contact with foreign governments and officials. Given this role, he has volunteered to speak with Chairman Burr’s Committee,” said a White House official.
Mr. Kushner is the latest in a string of former aides and associates of Mr. Trump whose testimony has been sought in connection with the two congressional investigations being conducted.

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How's that Swamp draining going? Oh, the water level went up a few hundred feet? Well I'll be darned....

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What does it all mean?

Which part of "the Constitution will be saved, but not in Washington" is not understood?

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freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 1:45 pm What does it all mean?

Which part of "the Constitution will be saved, but not in Washington" is not understood?
I missed the post where you said I was right about Trump.

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Silver wrote: March 27th, 2017, 2:39 pm
freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 1:45 pm What does it all mean?

Which part of "the Constitution will be saved, but not in Washington" is not understood?
I missed the post where you said I was right about Trump.
I agree. You are wrong about judging him as if he were a plague not knowing him personally; not speaking to him face to face and getting his side of things. Thanks for confessing. I don't have much problem with agreeing to faulty information geared to condemn a man being presented by a professed Mormon as an ugly practice.
Are you going to continue this hobby for the next four years? Haven't you better things to do? At the end of the day will God pat you on the head for passing judgements based on bias and contempt?
I do not agree with having high levels of malevolence, arrogance or pomposity.

How would you like to be under so much scrutiny and harsh judgment every single day by people everywhere? How about your neighbors, or your whole family avoiding you as if you were a slimy slug or molten lava, or something hideous?

What do you want people to be right about you and your character, beliefs, hopes and actions?

Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Or is this merely symbolic?

Right about Trump...yea, right! Guess again.

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freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 4:28 pm
Silver wrote: March 27th, 2017, 2:39 pm
freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 1:45 pm What does it all mean?

Which part of "the Constitution will be saved, but not in Washington" is not understood?
I missed the post where you said I was right about Trump.
I agree. You are wrong about judging him as if he were a plague not knowing him personally; not speaking to him face to face and getting his side of things. Thanks for confessing. I don't have much problem with agreeing to faulty information geared to condemn a man being presented by a professed Mormon as an ugly practice.
Are you going to continue this hobby for the next four years? Haven't you better things to do? At the end of the day will God pat you on the head for passing judgements based on bias and contempt?
I do not agree with having high levels of malevolence, arrogance or pomposity.

How would you like to be under so much scrutiny and harsh judgment every single day by people everywhere? How about your neighbors, or your whole family avoiding you as if you were a slimy slug or molten lava, or something hideous?

What do you want people to be right about you and your character, beliefs, hopes and actions?

Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Or is this merely symbolic?

Right about Trump...yea, right! Guess again.
OK, FFA, your inability to admit that Trump is a bad president is well noted.

It's not as hard as you're making it out to be. Watch:
1. CFR
2. Goldman Sachs
3. NWO
4. Warmongers

People are policy. Trump surrounded himself with bad people. Those bad people set bad policies (or continue bad ones already in place).

Don't worry though. It'll all be easy to see one day.

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Silver wrote: March 27th, 2017, 7:53 pm
freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 4:28 pm
Silver wrote: March 27th, 2017, 2:39 pm
freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 1:45 pm What does it all mean?

Which part of "the Constitution will be saved, but not in Washington" is not understood?
I missed the post where you said I was right about Trump.
I agree. You are wrong about judging him as if he were a plague not knowing him personally; not speaking to him face to face and getting his side of things. Thanks for confessing. I don't have much problem with agreeing to faulty information geared to condemn a man being presented by a professed Mormon as an ugly practice.
Are you going to continue this hobby for the next four years? Haven't you better things to do? At the end of the day will God pat you on the head for passing judgements based on bias and contempt?
I do not agree with having high levels of malevolence, arrogance or pomposity.

How would you like to be under so much scrutiny and harsh judgment every single day by people everywhere? How about your neighbors, or your whole family avoiding you as if you were a slimy slug or molten lava, or something hideous?

What do you want people to be right about you and your character, beliefs, hopes and actions?

Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Or is this merely symbolic?

Right about Trump...yea, right! Guess again.
OK, FFA, your inability to admit that Trump is a bad president is well noted.

It's not as hard as you're making it out to be. Watch:
1. CFR
2. Goldman Sachs
3. NWO
4. Warmongers

People are policy. Trump surrounded himself with bad people. Those bad people set bad policies (or continue bad ones already in place).

Don't worry though. It'll all be easy to see one day.
I'm not the one seeking a pat on the head.

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Re: Trump = Traitor, Part 2

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freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 9:26 pm
Silver wrote: March 27th, 2017, 7:53 pm
freedomforall wrote: March 27th, 2017, 4:28 pm
Silver wrote: March 27th, 2017, 2:39 pm

I missed the post where you said I was right about Trump.
I agree. You are wrong about judging him as if he were a plague not knowing him personally; not speaking to him face to face and getting his side of things. Thanks for confessing. I don't have much problem with agreeing to faulty information geared to condemn a man being presented by a professed Mormon as an ugly practice.
Are you going to continue this hobby for the next four years? Haven't you better things to do? At the end of the day will God pat you on the head for passing judgements based on bias and contempt?
I do not agree with having high levels of malevolence, arrogance or pomposity.

How would you like to be under so much scrutiny and harsh judgment every single day by people everywhere? How about your neighbors, or your whole family avoiding you as if you were a slimy slug or molten lava, or something hideous?

What do you want people to be right about you and your character, beliefs, hopes and actions?

Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Or is this merely symbolic?

Right about Trump...yea, right! Guess again.
OK, FFA, your inability to admit that Trump is a bad president is well noted.

It's not as hard as you're making it out to be. Watch:
1. CFR
2. Goldman Sachs
3. NWO
4. Warmongers

People are policy. Trump surrounded himself with bad people. Those bad people set bad policies (or continue bad ones already in place).

Don't worry though. It'll all be easy to see one day.
I'm not the one seeking a pat on the head.
Once again, totally avoiding the topic at hand, aren't you? Even Dr. Conrad is going to notice that you are unable to admit Trump selected a bunch of elitist one-worlders for his administration. I would have thought that the guy who is constantly claiming that the solution to America's woes is external to Washington, DC, should have been the first to recognize that so many CFR members is exactly what we should be fighting against. Alas, the deception runs deep.

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Thanks, FFA, for your support in keeping this thread near the top of the Latest Posts thread.

May I ask how did you develop that ability to consistently avoid the facts?

1. CFR
2. Goldman Sachs
3. Warmongers
4. Nepotism
Deal with it. You'll feel better.

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