Donald Trump says he's running for US president

[Matchmaker]

Personally I think Donald Trump would be a good president.

BEN CARSON :-BD :YMAPPLAUSE:

The scriptures say to choose good, wise and honest candidates.
Ben loves the Lord, wants freedom back and knows what America is supposed to be all about. He highly dislikes political correctness...loves freedom of expression, says marriage is for one man and one woman. Wants America to get back to what makes America strong.

I do like Ben Carson also, I always appreciate your advice.

I respect Ben Carson's view that every life is precious. I think as President he would fight for the rights of the unborn child. I also think Trump has shown that he is a real competitor. In order to win the nomination, Bush is going to have to make a deal with him, like making him Secretary of State or something.

[EmmaLee]

Ben Carson’s perplexing stance on abortion

The retired neurosurgeon says he’s fiercely pro-life. His record (and his own comments) don’t back that up.

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[Matchmaker]

Michael Savage is even more outspoken than Donald Trump is, if that is even possible! Thank you for posting this.

[freedomforall]

Ben Carson’s perplexing stance on abortion

The retired neurosurgeon says he’s fiercely pro-life. His record (and his own comments) don’t back that up.

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Unless he comes straight out and says he's for abortion, I will lean on any benefit of doubt. I believe, so far, that he is honest in his speech. He came up in poverty, studied and studied some more until he was able to break away from all the lies that told him he'd never amount to anything because he was either black or that poverty was all there was for many folks.
The fact that he knows scripture in that he knows how Christ feels about sin and free will and the like, tells me he isn't going to bow to the socialistic influence all around him. He wants America back. and this is more than what many politicians in office have to offer. The majority of them being in a mindless stupor willing to say yes to all kinds of evil in order to keep the money coming in. Where are their values? Even when Obama mocked God and the bible in 08 Americans cheered and applauded him. A few decades ago, he would have been booed off the podium. Satan laughs at us living in a stupor, unwilling to stand for freedom and for our God. It's no wonder we're headed for hell in a hand-basket weaved by our own hands.
I believe Carson wants us to get back to what America was set out to be...free!
Time will tell.

[EmmaLee]

Guess it depends when a person believes life begins -

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[Joel]

[freedomforall]

Guess it depends when a person believes life begins -

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Life begins when it isn't snuffed out by evil people killing any chance of a fetus's survival. A dead baby is still dead when its life was snuffed out. I don't think God appreciates thousands of spirits coming back without them having had the chance to experience life as was foreordained to them in the beginning.
Those for abortion could have been aborted themselves and do not appreciate that they weren't. Otherwise, why would they be so quick to take the life of someone so small and defenseless?

[EmmaLee]

Guess it depends when a person believes life begins -

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=b ... mp=yhs-004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Life begins when it isn't snuffed out by evil people killing any chance of a fetus's survival. A dead baby is still dead when its life was snuffed out. I don't think God appreciates thousands of spirits coming back without them having had the chance to experience life as was foreordained to them in the beginning.
Those for abortion could have been aborted themselves and do not appreciate that they weren't. Otherwise, why would they be so quick to take the life of someone so small and defenseless?

I agree, and I am against all abortion from conception on - unlike Ben Carson (ETA: the link was supposed to be to a video where he says he has no problem with women aborting their babies in the early stages. Well, not looking for it again, but it's there)

[Joel]

[Joel]

[Joel]

[Joel]

I wonder if the guy that confronted Jorge Ramos was a KKK white nationalist like David Duke?

[Joel]

[Cookies]

Oh yeah! I read the Bible all the time. It's the best.
Really? What is your favorite part?
Oh Uh ummm... well, that's personal. Without being too specific, I like all of it.
All of it? The good parts as well as the downright horrible parts?
Sure, yes. I like all the parts equally. Good book. I totally recommend it! Vote for me! ....I also like freedom and the troops!

("Nine...Eleven" -Lois Griffin)

[gkearney]

Well I know that LDSFF is conspiracy theory central so consider this rather Machiavellian plot. Donald Trump is a "Manchurian Candidate" for Hillary Clinton and/or the Democratic party.

Here is the reasoning, Donald Trump has long been acquainted/friends with the Clintons. So when the time comes the Donald "runs for President" as a Republican. He storms about the country poisoning the Republican brand with hispanics, blacks, gays, you name it. By the end of his run as a Republican the party is so wounded by his antics that the nominee, who ever it might be, can never dig his way out of the hole that the Donald has dug for him.

Then, to insure that the Democrats win the presidency, his aim all along, the Donald runs as a third party candidate. This insures that he peels away enough Republican voters that the Republican nominee, no matter who it is, can never get enough electoral votes to win, think of what Ross Perot did to George Bush or what John Anderson did to Jimmy Carter for example.

Unlike those two examples however the Donald, with the aid of the Clintons, had planned this all along. I find it interesting that Hilary, and for that matter no other Democrat, has said almost nothing about Trumps various proposals as silly as some of them might be, just how are you going to get the Mexicans to pay for a wall? Under this scenario Hilary wants Donald to say those and ever more outrageous things, it's all part of the plan you see.

[Joel]

[Joel]

[freedomforall]

No matter who runs, are we certain Obama will give up his glory spot? His ability to spend as much money as he wants in doing whatever he desires? His ability to keep sending America into oblivion and controlled by the NWO?

Or will the next POTUS merely finish the job? I mean just look closely at the candidates in the race. SEE:
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Since we're supposed to vote for someone that is honest, wise and good which one fits this requirement?

Doctrine and Covenants 98:10
10 Wherefore, honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil.

Since, hopefully, we are after someone that will truly live by he Constitution and defend it, just who fits that requirement, coupled with the scriptural counsel?

Now, we are also not to vote for the lesser of two evils, for evil is still evil.

In the next post is a wonderful guide by President Ezra Taft Benson.

[freedomforall]

From July 1972: https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/07/civi ... s?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Civic Standards for the Faithful Saints

Of the Council of the Twelve
Elder Ezra Taft Benson

My beloved brothers and sisters, seen and unseen—and we are all brothers and sisters, children of the same Father in the spirit—humbly and gratefully I stand before you on this anniversary date of the organization of the restored church of Jesus Christ, 142 years ago. I love a general conference of the Church, except this particular part, and yet I rejoice in the opportunity to bear testimony to this, the greatest work in all the world.

Last fall I was invited by Baron von Blomberg, president of the United Religions Organization, to represent the Church as a guest of the king of Persia at the twenty-five hundredth anniversary of the founding of the Persian Empire by Cyrus the Great. Advised by the First Presidency to accept the invitation, I left immediately following the October conference to join with representatives of twenty-seven world religions, some fifty monarchs, and other notables at this historic celebration in Iran.

King Cyrus lived more than five hundred years before Christ and figured in prophecies of the Old Testament mentioned in 2 Chronicles and the book of Ezra, and by the prophets Ezekiel, Isaiah, and Daniel. The Bible states how “the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus, King of Persia.” (2 Chr. 36:22.) Cyrus restored certain political and social rights to the captive Hebrews, gave them permission to return to Jerusalem, and directed that Jehovah’s temple should be rebuilt.

Parley P. Pratt, in describing the Prophet Joseph Smith, said that he had “the boldness, courage, temperance, perseverance and generosity of a Cyrus.” (Autobiography of Parley Parker Pratt [Deseret Book Company, 1938], p. 46.)

President Wilford Woodruff said:

“Now I have thought many times that some of those ancient kings that were raised up, had in some respects more regard for the carrying out of some of these principles and laws, than even the Latter-day Saints have in our day. I will take as an ensample Cyrus. … To trace the life of Cyrus from his birth to his death, whether he knew it or not, it looked as though he lived by inspiration in all his movements. He began with that temperance and virtue which would sustain any Christian country or any Christian king. … Many of these principles followed him, and I have thought many of them were worthy, in many respects, the attention of men who have the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 22, p. 207.)

God, the Father of us all, uses the men of the earth, especially good men, to accomplish his purposes. It has been true in the past, it is true today, it will be true in the future.

“Perhaps the Lord needs such men on the outside of His Church to help it along,” said the late Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Quorum of the Twelve. “They are among its auxiliaries, and can do more good for the cause where the Lord has placed them, than anywhere else. … Hence, some are drawn into the fold and receive a testimony of the truth; while others remain unconverted … the beauties and glories of the gospel being veiled temporarily from their view, for a wise purpose. The Lord will open their eyes in His own due time. God is using more than one people for the accomplishment of His great and marvelous work. The Latter-day Saints cannot do it all. It is too vast, too arduous for any one people. … We have no quarrel with the Gentiles. They are our partners in a certain sense.” (Conference Report, April 1928, p. 59.)

This would certainly have been true of Colonel Thomas L. Kane, a true friend of the Saints in their dire need. It was true of General Doniphan, who, when ordered by his superior to shoot Joseph Smith, said: “It is cold blooded murder. I will not obey your order. … and if you execute these men, I will hold you responsible before an earthly tribunal, so help me God.” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Essentials in Church History, p. 241.)

We honor these partners because their devotion to correct principles overshadowed their devotion to popularity, party, or personalities.

We honor our founding fathers of this republic for the same reason. God raised up these patriotic partners to perform their mission, and he called them “wise men.” (See D&C 101:80.) The First Presidency acknowledged that wisdom when they gave us the guideline a few years ago of supporting political candidates “who are truly dedicated to the Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers.” (Deseret News, November 2, 1964.) That tradition has been summarized in the book The American Tradition by Clarence Carson.

The Lord said that “the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.” (Luke 16:8.) Our wise founders seemed to understand, better than most of us, our own scripture, which states that “it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority … they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.” (D&C 121:39.)

To help prevent this, the founders knew that our elected leaders should be bound by certain fixed principles. Said Thomas Jefferson: “In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”

These wise founders, our patriotic partners, seemed to appreciate more than most of us the blessings of the boundaries that the Lord set within the Constitution, for he said, “And as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than this, cometh of evil.” (D&C 98:7.)

In God the founders trusted, and in his Constitution—not in the arm of flesh. “O Lord,” said Nephi, “I have trusted in thee, and I will trust in thee forever. I will not put my trust in the arm of flesh; … cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm.” (2 Ne. 4:34.)

President J. Reuben Clark, Jr., put it well when he said:

“God provided that in this land of liberty, our political allegiance shall run not to individuals, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan our allegiance and the only allegiance we owe as citizens or denizens of the United States, runs to our inspired Constitution which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. This principle of allegiance to the Constitution is basic to our freedom. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this ‘land of liberty’ from other countries.” (Improvement Era, July 1940, p. 444.)

“Patriotism,” said Theodore Roosevelt, “means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. …

“Every man,” said President Roosevelt, “who parrots the cry of ‘stand by the President’ without adding the proviso ‘so far as he serves the Republic’ takes an attitude as essentially unmanly as that of any Stuart royalist who championed the doctrine that the King could do no wrong. No self-respecting and intelligent free man could take such an attitude.” (Theodore Roosevelt, Works, vol. 21, pp. 316, 321.) And yet as Latter-day Saints we should pray for our civic leaders and encourage them in righteousness.

“… to vote for wicked men, it would be sin,” said Hyrum Smith. (Documentary History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 323.)

And the Prophet Joseph Smith said, “… let the people of the whole Union, like the inflexible Romans, whenever they find a promise made by a candidate that is not practiced as an officer, hurl the miserable sycophant from his exaltation. …” (DHC, vol. 6, p. 207.)

Joseph and Hyrum’s trust did not run to the arm of flesh, but to God and correct eternal principles. “I am the greatest advocate of the Constitution of the United States there is on the earth,” said the Prophet Joseph Smith. (DHC, vol. 6, p. 56.)

The warning of President Joseph Fielding Smith is most timely: “Now I tell you it is time the people of the United States were waking up with the understanding that if they don’t save the Constitution from the dangers that threaten it, we will have a change of government.” (Conference Report, April 1950, p. 159.)

Another guideline given by the First Presidency was “to support good and conscientious candidates, of either party, who are aware of the great dangers” facing the free world. (Deseret News, November 2, 1964.)

Fortunately we have materials to help us face these threatening dangers in the writings of President David O. McKay and other church leaders. Some other fine sources by LDS authors attempting to awaken and inform us of our duty are: Prophets, Principles, and National Survival (Jerreld L. Newquist), Many Are Called But Few Are Chosen (H. Verlan Andersen), and The Elders of Israel and the Constitution (Jerome Horowitz).

But the greatest handbook for freedom in this fight against evil is the Book of Mormon.

This leads me to the second great civic standard for the Saints. For in addition to our inspired Constitution, we have the scriptures.

Joseph Smith said that the Book of Mormon was the “keystone of our religion” and the “most correct” book on earth. (DHC, vol. 6, p. 56.) This most correct book on earth states that the downfall of two great American civilizations came as a result of secret conspiracies whose desire was to overthrow the freedom of the people. “And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking,” says Moroni, “and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.” (Ether 8:21.)

Now undoubtedly Moroni could have pointed out many factors that led to the destruction of the people, but notice how he singled out the secret combinations, just as the Church today could point out many threats to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work, but it has singled out the greatest threat as the godless conspiracy. There is no conspiracy theory in the Book of Mormon —it is a conspiracy fact.

Then Moroni speaks to us in this day and says, “Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you” (Ether 8:14.)

The Book of Mormon further warns that “whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold they shall be destroyed. …” (Ether 8:22.)

This scripture should alert us to what is ahead unless we repent, because there is no question but that as people of the free world, we are increasingly upholding many of the evils of the adversary today. By court edict godless conspirators can run for government office, teach in our schools, hold office in labor unions, work in our defense plants, serve in our merchant marines, etc. As a nation, we are helping to underwrite many evil revolutionaries in our country.

Now we are assured that the Church will remain on the earth until the Lord comes again—but at what price? The Saints in the early days were assured that Zion would be established in Jackson County, but look at what their unfaithfulness cost them in bloodshed and delay.

President Clark warned us that “we stand in danger of losing our liberties, and that once lost, only blood will bring them back; and once lost, we of this church will, in order to keep the Church going forward, have more sacrifices to make and more persecutions to endure than we have yet known. …” (CR, April 1944, p. 116.) And he stated that if the conspiracy “comes here it will probably come in its full vigor and there will be a lot of vacant places among those who guide and direct, not only this government, but also this Church of ours.” (CR, April 1952.)

Now the third great civic standard for the Saints is the inspired word of the prophets—particularly the living president, God’s mouthpiece on the earth today. Keep your eye on the captain and judge the words of all lesser authority by his inspired counsel.

The story is told how Brigham Young, driving through a community, saw a man building a house and simply told him to double the thickness of his walls. Accepting President Young as a prophet, the man changed his plans and doubled the walls. Shortly afterward a flood came through that town, resulting in much destruction, but this man’s walls stood. While putting the roof on his house, he was heard singing, “We thank thee, O God, for a prophet!”

Joseph Smith taught “that a prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such.” (DHC, vol. 5, p. 265.)

Suppose a leader of the Church were to tell you that you were supporting the wrong side of a particular issue. Some might immediately resist this leader and his counsel or ignore it, but I would suggest that you first apply the fourth great civic standard for the faithful Saints. That standard is to live for, to get, and then to follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit.

Said Brigham Young: “I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by Him. … Let every man and woman know, by the whisperings of the Spirit of God to themselves, whether their leaders are walking in the path the Lord dictates, or not.” (JD, vol. 9, p. 150.)

A number of years ago, because of a statement that appeared to represent the policy of the Church, a faithful member feared he was supporting the wrong candidate for public office. Humbly he took the matter up with the Lord. Through the Spirit of the Lord he gained the conviction of the course he should follow, and he dropped his support of this particular candidate.

This good brother, by fervent prayer, got the answer that in time proved to be the right course.

We urge all men to read the Book of Mormon and then ask God if it is true. And the promise is sure that they may know of its truthfulness through the Holy Ghost, “and by the power of the Holy Ghost [men] may know the truth of all things.” (Moro. 10:5.)

We need the constant guidance of that Spirit. We live in an age of deceit. “O my people,” said Isaiah in the Book of Mormon, “they who lead thee cause thee to err and destroy the way of thy paths.” (2 Ne. 13:12.) Even within the Church we have been warned that “the ravening wolves are amongst us, from our own membership, and they, more than any others, are clothed in sheep’s clothing, because they wear the habiliments of the priesthood.” (J. Reuben Clark, Jr., CR, April 1949, p. 163.)

The Lord holds us accountable if we are not wise and are deceived. “For they that are wise,” he said, “and have received the truth, and have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide, and have not been deceived—verily I say unto you, they shall not be hewn down and cast into the fire, but shall abide the day.” (D&C 45:57.)

And so four great civic standards for the faithful Saints are, first, the Constitution ordained by God through wise men; second, the scriptures, particularly the Book of Mormon; third, the inspired counsel of the prophets, especially the living president, and fourth, the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

God bless us all that we may use these standards and by so doing bless ourselves, our families, our community, our nation, and the world, I humbly pray, as I bear my witness to the truth of this great latter-day work, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

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[freedomforall]

Will Trump Trump all other candidates? Will Obama Trump a win for a third term? Will the NWO Trump our Constitutional history? Will Satan Trump righteousness from now on? Will Ben Carson Trump Trump? #:-s

[Matchmaker]

I have to agree with Donald T on this one - as likable and intelligent as Ben Carson is, he won't get the nomination this time around, for the reasons Donald said. It's a shame that he couldn't have been the first black President instead of Obama. There are too many unhappy people out there who will look at him and see Obama and not vote for him because of it. It's just as unfair as people looking at Jeb and seeing George, but it happens.

[Ezra]

I have to agree with Donald T on this one - as likable and intelligent as Ben Carson is, he won't get the nomination this time around, for the reasons Donald said. It's a shame that he couldn't have been the first black President instead of Obama. There are too many unhappy people out there who will look at him and see Obama and not vote for him because of it. It's just as unfair as people looking at Jeb and seeing George, but it happens.

Would you vote for the lesser of 2 evils to keep the worse one out???

[freedomforall]

I have to agree with Donald T on this one - as likable and intelligent as Ben Carson is, he won't get the nomination this time around, for the reasons Donald said. It's a shame that he couldn't have been the first black President instead of Obama. There are too many unhappy people out there who will look at him and see Obama and not vote for him because of it. It's just as unfair as people looking at Jeb and seeing George, but it happens.

Would you vote for the lesser of 2 evils to keep the worse one out???

Will you join me in making a comparison, Ezra? Then perhaps the choice, if O and C were the only candidates, will become apparent.

For Jesus?

Against Jesus?

[Matchmaker]

I have to agree with Donald T on this one - as likable and intelligent as Ben Carson is, he won't get the nomination this time around, for the reasons Donald said. It's a shame that he couldn't have been the first black President instead of Obama. There are too many unhappy people out there who will look at him and see Obama and not vote for him because of it. It's just as unfair as people looking at Jeb and seeing George, but it happens.

Would you vote for the lesser of 2 evils to keep the worse one out???

I voted for Obama the first time around because I thought he was the lesser of 2 evils. I didn't care for McCain, and I had little reason to think Obama was being untruthful. He proved me wrong soon after.

[Ezra]

I have to agree with Donald T on this one - as likable and intelligent as Ben Carson is, he won't get the nomination this time around, for the reasons Donald said. It's a shame that he couldn't have been the first black President instead of Obama. There are too many unhappy people out there who will look at him and see Obama and not vote for him because of it. It's just as unfair as people looking at Jeb and seeing George, but it happens.

Would you vote for the lesser of 2 evils to keep the worse one out???

I voted for Obama the first time around because I thought he was the lesser of 2 evils. I didn't care for McCain, and I had little reason to think Obama was being untruthful. He proved me wrong soon after.

This is why we have been counseled not to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

This is some of what has been said


D&C 98:9-10 Admonishes us to seek diligently for honest, wise, good men to uphold in political office, and "whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil."
Hyrum Smith the Patriarch of the Church: "We engage in the election the same as in any other principle, you're to vote for good men and if you do not do this it is a sin. To vote for wicked men, it would be sin! Choose the good and refuse the evil. Men of false principles have preyed upon us like wolves upon helpless lambs. Damn the rod of tyrrany and curse it! Let every man use his liberties according to the Constitution. Don't fear man or devil, electioneer with all people, male and female, and exhort them to do the thing which is right. We want a President of the United States, not a party President, but a President of the whole people, for a party President disenfranchises the other party. Have a President who will maintain every man in his rights." (HC 6:323)
Joseph Smith Jr.: "We shall have the satisfaction of knowing we have acted conscienciously and have used our best judgement, and if we have to throw away our votes, we had better do so upon a worthy rather than an unworthy individual who might make use of the weapon we put in his hand to destroy us!" (Comprehensive History of the Church 2:208-209)


Think of it this way. You are to be judged on your actions. D&c 121 33-40 warns about many lds who are called and not chosen and why. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils and then them using the weapon you placed in there hands as Joseph smith said, is using unrighteous dominion. It's no different then holding the your right arm to a square and saying yes to your support and sustaining of the person who then uses your support to put your fellow men into bondage. Those sins are on your head.

You don't vote to be on a winning side, you vote to be on the lords side.

Vs 38 of d&c 121 . Those who are not chosen fight against God.

You were fighting against God when you voted for Obama. Can you see that?

Will you continue to do the same? Or will you as d&c 98 says seek a good and honest man or woman???
You will be judged for the way you vote and the damages done or blessing done by those you vote for.

I don't vote for evil or the lesser of the 2. The lord always raises someone up who is good to vote for. And very very rarely do they win. Why? Because media is controlled by the gadiantans and they promote the 2 front runners who they would have lead. They are ok with either. Which brand of poison tastes better to you is all you get to vote on since the media has been controlled by them. But you are still allowed to vote for who you want to. You can write them in if you have too.
Please listen to Joseph smith and the scriptures don't vote for evil.