2015 / 2016 Elections discussion

[KMCopeland]

I watched Netanyahu speak yesterday it was awesome. Ted Cruz seemed to agree with the P.M. Rand Paul seemed a little meh.

Do you have any thoughts on the appropriateness of Netanyahu making that speech, in our Congress, agitating against our president's foreign policy?

[OCDMOM]

I watched Netanyahu speak yesterday it was awesome. Ted Cruz seemed to agree with the P.M. Rand Paul seemed a little meh.

Do you have any thoughts on the appropriateness of Netanyahu making that speech, in our Congress, agitating against our president's foreign policy?

Sure my thoughts are that Netanyahu's #1 priority is his country. Can you imagine how frightening it would be to live there? He is very afraid of Iran getting a nuke and so he should be. The Clintons gave nukes to North Korea and promised they only wanted them for energy. Look how well that turned out. I just can't figure out why Democrats, who hate Nuclear power are so set on giving it to countries who hate us.

[Original_Intent]

We have an election on this side of the pond this coming May.
It's too close to call right now but I think Tony Blair may well have got it right when he recently said that "for the first time in many years we're going into this election with a traditional left-wing party (Labour) lining up against a traditional right-wing party (Conservative). And when that happens, we get the traditional result."
The traditional result in these circumstances is a Conservative victory.

How is Nigel Farage doing?

I don't know the answer, but I'll just toss in my opinion that Nigel Farage is a statesman of the first order in my book. We could use many of his caliber here in the states and in other countries around the world.

[OCDMOM]

Why is the media turning on Hillary do ya think?

[lundbaek]

Just maybe the latter-day gadiantons do not want Hillary as POTUS because she would not be as easy to control as other possible candidates.

[KMCopeland]

I watched Netanyahu speak yesterday it was awesome. Ted Cruz seemed to agree with the P.M. Rand Paul seemed a little meh.

Do you have any thoughts on the appropriateness of Netanyahu making that speech, in our Congress, agitating against our president's foreign policy?

Sure my thoughts are that Netanyahu's #1 priority is his country.

And my priority is my country. My country is working round the clock to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. It's delicate and it's tricky. The negotiation can be jettisoned by anything, and one of the things likely to jettison them is Netanyahu butting in. It was disgraceful for Boehner to invite him and it was disgraceful of him to accept.

Imagine this: Imagine it's 2002 and France is very much opposed to George Bush's plans to invade Iraq (he was). George Bush's enemies in Congress, in defiance of hundreds of years of diplomatic protocol, invite the president of France to address Congress, in Washington, about what a terrible idea it is for George Bush to invade Iraq, and also in defiance of hundreds of years of diplomatic protocol, the president of France shows up and does exactly that. Much as I hated George Bush, I would be furious about that if it happened. You should be furious about this no matter how much you love Israel & Netanyahu.

Can you imagine how frightening it would be to live there?

Makes you wonder why anyone does. Maybe it's not as bad as it looks from here. But yes, it's a very dangerous part of the world.

He is very afraid of Iran getting a nuke and so he should be.

I have to wonder if it's actually fear that motivates him. Because Israel has 500+ nukes -- the big kind. The kind that very few countries in the world have. Israel could take everybody over there out tomorrow. I think he wants to get re-elected a lot more than he doesn't want Iran to have nukes. And yes, he really doesn't want Iran to have nukes. Nobody does.

The Clintons gave nukes to North Korea and promised they only wanted them for energy. Look how well that turned out.

The Clintons certainly didn't give nukes to North Korea for goodness sake. North Korea had been working on a nuclear program since the sixties. Maybe earlier. Bill Clinton tried hard to keep them from getting nukes. So did George Bush. They got them anyway. All by themselves in spite of everything we did to prevent it.

I just can't figure out why Democrats, who hate Nuclear power are so set on giving it to countries who hate us.

Well, I'm here to save you all that confusion. The Democrats don't want anyone to have nukes any more than the Republicans do.

You sound as if you think we have the power to decide who does and doesn't get nukes. We don't. Sometimes we're able to prevent it, and that in itself is almost miraculous. But when a country really, really wants a nuclear weapon, it is extremely hard to prevent them from getting one. But we were making excellent progress with Iran. It's too soon to tell how much damage Netanyahu has done. But it was an irresponsible thing for him to do, and an unpatriotic thing for Boehner to do.

Politics used to stop at the water's edge. It's a damn shame that's no longer true.

[Jason]

It will be Hitlery vs. Mitt or Jeb - the whore, false prophet, and beast of the Apocalypse.

Likely the latter...

[KMCopeland]

Liberal, progressive Democratic ideologies are immasculating our military.

This is an old idea that has lodged itself in peoples' minds. It is so not true. The people now voting to emasculate the military are the Republicans, with a few exceptions. The people working the hardest to protect military pensions, benefits, and health care, to protect them from having to fight ridiculous, unnecessary wars and to take care of this generation of damaged veterans are almost all Democrats now.

Government is too big.

This is another righty meme that bugs me. Government may be too big, but this is a huge, complicated country. Our government almost by definition would have to be big. I wish it was a push for good government, as opposed to small government. Would you want a nice small government that was terrible? I think the size is not the problem. I think quality is the problem.

[Jason]

You'll not get a quality government without a quality people...thats where the real problem lies...

[OCDMOM]

You sound as if you think we have the power to decide who does and doesn't get nukes. We don't. Sometimes we're able to prevent it, and that in itself is almost miraculous. But when a country really, really wants a nuclear weapon, it is extremely hard to prevent them from getting one. But we were making excellent progress with Iran. It's too soon to tell how much damage Netanyahu has done. But it was an irresponsible thing for him to do, and an unpatriotic thing for Boehner to do.

Politics used to stop at the water's edge. It's a damn shame that's no longer true.[/quote]
I Disagree with you 100%. Your views on everything are the complete opposite if my views. We can argue until the cows come home and neither of us will ever agree. I'm a conservative and you are a progressive. I believe and vote based on the following:
I'm pro-life will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.
I believe the constitution was inspired, formed in this country so the gospel of Jesus Christ could come forth.
I'm pro-family, I have nothing against Gays, but don't approve of them forcing their agenda on others.
I believe and support the Proclamation of the Family.
I believe the Church is true.
I believe in Jesus Christ.
I support the Prophet and Church leaders.
I believe that we should support Israel.
I believe in the Book of Mormon.
I believe the Prophet Joseph Smith was a true prophet.

[Original_Intent]

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I believe that we should support Israel.
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This is really the only statement I disagree with. I believe that we should support Israel (or any other country, for that matter) in any righteous endeavor.
I believe that support should be primarily moral support. We are bankrupt beyond belief. We should not be providing foreign aid to anyone, including Israel. Any aid should be thru voluntary donation through private organizations - not thru forced taxation.
The knee jerk "we should support Israel no matter what because its Israel and prophecy and chosen people" is so wrong. I think God weeps over those with this mentality. Not saying that's what you were saying, OCDMOM, because there are all kinds of nuances and levels of what "support" means.

But I know there are a lot out there that really do have an "Israel can do no wrong and we should blindly support them" paradigm. Inside the LDS church they also tend to be the "Follow the prophet BLINDLY" folks.

[lundbaek]

It is my understanding of the US Constitution, and that of many others of my acquaintance, that foreign aid is not permitted. Therefore, as Original_Intent stated, "Any aid should be thru voluntary donation through private organizations - not thru forced taxation." And what's left of the Constitution still requires a declaration of war by Congress for the USA to get militarily involved except is case of attack against the USA.

And the logic that "we should support Israel no matter what because its Israel and prophecy and chosen people" is also being applied to the conditional prophecies in 3 Nephi Chapters 16, 20 & 21 as many members believe we should permit and welcome unlimited immigration of Latin Americans into the United States.

[KMCopeland]

You sound as if you think we have the power to decide who does and doesn't get nukes. We don't. Sometimes we're able to prevent it, and that in itself is almost miraculous. But when a country really, really wants a nuclear weapon, it is extremely hard to prevent them from getting one. But we were making excellent progress with Iran. It's too soon to tell how much damage Netanyahu has done. But it was an irresponsible thing for him to do, and an unpatriotic thing for Boehner to do.

Politics used to stop at the water's edge. It's a damn shame that's no longer true.

I Disagree with you 100%. Your views on everything are the complete opposite if my views. We can argue until the cows come home and neither of us will ever agree.

We do agree on one thing: that we'll never agree.

[OCDMOM]

I guess Ms. Clinton won't be running now. If she can't figure out how to use two e-mails on one phone, how can she run a country? She is now being compared to Nixon.

[Jason]

Just political posturing....

Like Giuliani's running off at the mouth as of late. Just setting the stage for the next Democrat to Republican shift...

Say hello to Jeb...

[Robin Hood]

We have an election on this side of the pond this coming May.
It's too close to call right now but I think Tony Blair may well have got it right when he recently said that "for the first time in many years we're going into this election with a traditional left-wing party (Labour) lining up against a traditional right-wing party (Conservative). And when that happens, we get the traditional result."
The traditional result in these circumstances is a Conservative victory.

The election is over.
Tony Blair was right.

[KMCopeland]

We have an election on this side of the pond this coming May.
It's too close to call right now but I think Tony Blair may well have got it right when he recently said that "for the first time in many years we're going into this election with a traditional left-wing party (Labour) lining up against a traditional right-wing party (Conservative). And when that happens, we get the traditional result."
The traditional result in these circumstances is a Conservative victory.

The election is over.
Tony Blair was right.

I'm jealous of your short, sweet campaigns.

[freedomforall]

Dr Ben Carson for POTUS. This man is awesome.



Previous Prayer Breakfast



This man loves the Constitution and our privileges afforded by of it.



What say ye?

[Bee Prepared]

Dr Ben Carson for POTUS. This man is awesome.



Previous Prayer Breakfast



This man loves the Constitution and our privileges afforded by of it.



What say ye?

I agree, he is awesome! His prayer breakfast speech was the best, I particularly like his views on education.

[freedomforall]

Dr Ben Carson for POTUS. This man is awesome.



Previous Prayer Breakfast



This man loves the Constitution and our privileges afforded by of it.



What say ye?

I agree, he is awesome! His prayer breakfast speech was the best, I particularly like his views on education.

He sure gave Obama the what for. In other videos he talks about the idea of being politically correct, the fear of not mentioning God in conversation and how the 1st amendment is being trampled on. He says that people in government have no idea of what our rights really are. They base their opinions and actions on the people who are pushing for a Godless society and big government. He's has the opportunity of straightening out some of these uninformed people that say they defend the Constitutions when in reality they are defending socialism. He also says that Obamacare is basically a bunch of crap.
He is someone to be observed over the next months to see where things go for him. He truly defends our Founders as well. I wonder if he knows that there are several African Americans that were involved in America gaining freedom.

Glenn Beck -5-28-2010- Founders' Fridays- Black American Founders

[OCDMOM]

Do you Think Hilary is trying to lose on purpose?

[Matchmaker]

I really like and admire Dr. Carson, and I think he would make a wonderful President someday. However, I think the powerful forces behind our throne believe it is Jeb's turn now, with Mitt as his VP.

[KMCopeland]

Do you Think Hilary is trying to lose on purpose?

No chance.

[KMCopeland]

My man Bernie.



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[Bee Prepared]

I'm ahead in the polls. ( with people who don't vote)
I'm a pro-lifer but believe in the death penalty.
I will crack down on the sale of marijuana, unless its in honey. Free honey for everyone.
Freedom and Bee's are just one generation from being extinct, I will work on the Bee thing.
I have ways of making terrorists talk;