Hi I'm new here! Wondering the general thoughts of this forum on Ron Paul's views on liberty (social, economic, etc) and whether you are supportive of his run for presidency (last elections). And what do you guys think of Rand Paul and Mike Lee? Some say they have been corrupted already, but I see it more of a "work with the enemy to seize their power". By power, I mean that which can promote or cause liberty or tyranny. I think Rand Paul sees it as the only hope to change America, and that is to do "whatever" (to a limit) it takes to get the presidential spot, and then he will hold up to the same beliefs and standards as Ron Paul. Hopefully I am right, and this is why I think we should support Rand Paul, as he is already having enough problems from both the liberty lovers and the mainstream warhawks. I think his vote against Russian sanctions and bailing out Ukraine is a strong sign that his real beliefs have not fallen far from the tree of Ron Paul. What do you guys think? Perhaps you don't even like Ron Paul?