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Do you think it is likely something will happen this fall/winter? (Clarification in post)

Poll ended at March 3rd, 2017, 8:22 am

Yes, The idea something big will happen this fall/winter is affecting my preparations
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30%
Yes, The idea something big will start this fall/winter is affecting my preparataions
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33%
No, I'm preparing with no extra thought given to this fall or winter over any other
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37%
No, I'm not preparing
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Total votes: 30
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harakim
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This Fall/Winter

Post by harakim »

I'm curious. There has been a lot of talk of various prophecies, etc coming to a head this winter. And with the election going the way it is, Germany calling for food storage, etc. I imagine a few folks on the forum are preparing for this winter. So the poll is asking if you are preparing with the expectation something might happen this fall/winter... that this fall/winter is a more likely time than you thought of this spring or next spring or whatever.

For further clarification, I'm not asking if you think something will happen for sure, but just if it is affecting your preparations.

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mirkwood
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Nope. I prepare year round (year after year) with no regard to the spurious garbage that floats around the LDS prepper community.

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gkearney
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Ah...Something always happens all the time, could we be a bit more specific?

I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS
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gkearney wrote:Ah...Something always happens all the time, could we be a bit more specific?
Agreed. What kind of "big"events would we be considering?

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I've been getting ready for four or five years now. I do feel like I'm running out of time.

What am I expecting? Financial collapse, which leads to rioting, starvation, misery, and then, to international warfare.

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The runs in the fabric of society are spreading. I hope this election season doesn't completely rend our society, but it'll happen sooner or later......

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mirkwood wrote:Nope. I prepare year round (year after year) with no regard to the spurious garbage that floats around the LDS prepper community.
Yep exactly!

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Yahtzee
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Post by Yahtzee »

I want to clarify my vote. I think something will start to happen this fall/winter because of economic cycles, not because of any prophecies. I don't know if it will affect me or not (the last one really didn't), but I am preparing for a major economic downturn.

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skmo
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gkearney wrote:Ah...Something always happens all the time, could we be a bit more specific?
It doesn't matter.

If you're a Prepster, or worse, a prepster-hustling Hustler, you don't really care what the imminent threat is as long as you can convince prepster-minded preppers to prep for the prep-needing threats which will kill off everyone who isn't a prepping, well prepped prepster willing to buy the latest prepping guide from a prepster who got their latest dream or crystal ball prep warning from their god about the need to prep everything like a prepping prepster who can out-prep all the other preppers out there because they're more prepped than everyone else can be.

Yes, I mean that to be a sarcastic, asinine run-on sentence. That's what prep-hustlers sound like to me.

We have been warned for generations now of the need to be properly prepared for life's emergencies. In places around the globe it has shown itself to be good advice for the times a dire situation arises. However, we've been instructed to do so in a thrifty and positive manner by God's representatives, not as a fear-based survivalist in isolation.

Prep-hustlers depend on tapping into people's fears and hatred. God teaches us to be grateful, humble, and frugal. When people follow God's directives given to us by His servants, we need not be afraid of predictions of doom and gloom.

Older/wiser?
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I have seen a drastic change in business people's spending habits have changed. When you go on vacation you usually are looking for things to buy, wants not needs, that has changed trust me. People are holding back and not spending like they have in the past. For me personally I feel something, a change ,something around the corner. I have learned to trust what I feel, it has never lead me wrong.

Joy N Wisdom
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Yes, This is it, if you study history of earth cycle's we are going into a mini ice age.
2 billion of the 3 billion year old earth has been a Ice Planet. ( One of many disaster's )

See the very 1st Video on post " LATEST WARNING'S HOTLINE " in General Discussion's, it talks about this.

That's why China has been buying up Africa.

That's why they have been letting in Muslim's
into E.U. because E.U. will have to go to Africa.

That's why Our President O'bama made a deal with Austrailia, S. America, & Africa to send
American's by the 10's - 100's of millions there for $ billion pay off.

That's why the biggest, & most expensive move in U.S. history was by N.S.A. & was done from
low elevation in Georgia to higher ground, because the Navy reported the climate changes facts,
so we could have no frozen artic crippling our response's, and all the Generals agreed, & talked
to Pres. Bush on the huge civil unrest that it would bring also.

That's why Janet Nepalitono said what she said, warning all upon leaving.

That's why Germany right now is drafting Doctor's.

That's why all the smart professors have took off early, or killed for talking.

That's why John Kerry, and France Prime Minister, put it on the calender
how many day's are left, & Beck?, & Alex Jones did also.

That's why the bible, nostradomus ( sp?), mayan calender,
Edgar Cayce & many other's say to prepare.

That's why all the Ice Core sampling & Magnetite? in the Vases & numerous
other Bio-markers have shown a regular cycle.

That's why China & Russia have huge under ground cities for.

That's why the expensive ? elite's mansions & penthouse are vacant now,
& many star's etc, are selling everything.

That's why the Queen's Palace etc. is going to be renovated etc.

That's Why in Sept. /Oct. all of the check's in U.S. were gone and Gov. shut down
cause of Ison coming. Ison's discharge like the Cerrington (sp.?) effects, or plasma
discharges caused the grand canyon on two planet's.

That's why if you could watch N.A.S.A. panicking as they watch this, & asked any,
& all help, & input, it's the scariest thing if seen.

That's why there's crater's covering the Moon & Earth.

That's why the Jade Helm practices, for civilian, & Gov. bought special
bullet's in vast quantity, preparing for civil unrest, worst then in history.

That' why so many Executive Order's were put in place for, lately.

That's why this president has mentioned staying for 3 term's, more
than all the rest of president's combined, cause of disaster's looming on his duty.

That's why the fast tract without congress approval of the T.P.P. so we can guarantee
food to American's in a disaster as has been planned for, or preempting the causality's
the thinking done by the mensa type's at DARPA.

That's why the Gov. demanded all DOD, DOE. , & all agency's of gov. show
a plan of action by March ? 2016 regarding Space Weather Warning's.

That's why Gov. hire's people that will need to stay in there car's 70%
of the time, and do what the core of engineer's say's, 100,000 to million's?'
of them, and to carry firearms etc. etc.
There's a lot more.

See Ice Age is here the real Info. today's Video @
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... cc+forgets" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also go to this You Tube called Adapt 2030 this site's @
https://www.youtube.com/user/MyanmarLiving" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Iv'e been watching him for years & his mentors.
Also a great site is Lisa Haven's site @
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheElissaHill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All these things can be found.

There are very few scientist, or climatologist that can explain how the earth
can, & does have 155 degrees in some countries, & why within 3-4 months
we have temp's in New York colder then ever in world history.
I'm fortunate to have such teacher's / elder's.

......." DON'T BE SCARED, BE PREPARED " ........

What is the definition of a Prophet some say it's the wise use of accurate info / intel.
To Know, & Not To Do, Is Not To Know !

Trust me the church knows, & has plans if there listening to my /our top Wise Elder's of Zion.

I know several people that see the future accurately, through dreams,
visions & constant miracles, which is good, & bad to know by the way.
This a very sensitive subject though, cause the majority of people don't
want to here the truth, & prefer to rather seek favors of men & have their
priesthood taken away.

Good post. Yes, to your question we are preparing I teach preparedness,
the demographic's changed for many of us so were moving, at a cost of $100k,'s,
remember you can always go back, & it's better to be safe then sorry !

We will share more in the LATEST WARNING'S HOTLINE .... posting Take care my dear Brother's & Sister's in Christ ..... Wisdom & Joy

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Joy N Wisdom wrote:Yes, This is it, if you study history of earth cycle's we are going into a mini ice age.
Joy N Wisdom, are you willing to go on record as to what if anything has been revealed to you by the spirit will happend this fall or winter?

I'm not looking for what you think might happen, but what you "know" has been revealed to you will happen.

Joy N Wisdom
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.......................................Earth Changes & Disasters, Much of it Already Has, or is Happening ! ..............................................

It is cycle's, the Chinese Dynasty's recorded all these event's in detail, if their
wise men, or scribe's made one small mistake their whole family was killed.

When the Earth changes, it takes a gradual, period of time, like a Hot Pot
of Water or a Big Block of Ice, basic's of physic's.

So someone predicting what will happen is what people call a Prophet, but
it is also commom sense, & a little process of elimination, & extrapolation's,
& remembering your history, like the Chinese do, or your doomed to repeat it.

Sadly, also you know, many countries will maybe take advantage of disaster's,
war & disaster's are very profitable.

I will not tell you " yet " what, or when. Why, because then you either can agree,
or disagree with my opinion's, or my, wise people, & elder's vision's etc.
This is not such a wise path, thing to do. So we are going to show you instead
the fact's for now, the fact's, that we're allowed to tell you, like giving you a
fishing pole, & teaching you how to fish, so you cannot just pick, like a flip of
a coin, you agreeing blindly with our prophesying etc, versus the fact's.
Plus, you can convince other's much better with the fact's, then also.

By the way there has been offer's of big $ for info. which none of my people want for
the info., we share, that as " SKMO " said it is EVIL :ymdevil: , and as he so well
put perhaps, a Prepster, or a Prep-Hustler, some say it's Disaster & Fear Profiter (ing).

This is a Open Forum so, I am speaking to other's beside's yourself.

First, let me thank you for the ( challenge? ) & calling me on these claims, & info.,
I have claimed, I obviously knew someone would wonder, & do as such, thank you
so much, for your pursuit, & honest, concern's for the truth's that can make a huge
difference in our life's, does not the Scripture say, to test the spirit to see if it be of God,
& to know them who labor amongst you, so kudo's " ILLMAKEYAFAMOUS " .

Also, we must maintain, honesty, decency and mutual respect for this Forum,
& other's thought's, or opinions, correct wouldn't you agree ! .

There will be more info. put on this site, & other's but mainly on the,
.........................." LATEST WARNING'S HOTLINE "..........................................

Also, a how to learn to get close with God, to develop your own gift's as the Scripture's
reveal some of these procedure's.

And again,there is a whole lot of info., then what we have stated already that is crucial,
vip, fact's that will effect all's future soon, more than just Politics, & Economic Problem's.

I know some of you may not like our response to his request, & prefer, time's & dates of
each event to come , but as Scripture say's no man know's the time, or the hour.

Finally saying, "This Fall / Winter, is a pretty huge space of time.

So then, by the way what does it hurt, if you hurry up your, or finished the, sustainable preparedness
plan, Nothing Absolutely Nothing. You just might have saved all Your, & Your Spiritual Family's
Life's, hey, not a bad decision, huh ! . So what, you got ready sooner then you needed to,
Smart Person, Yes !. Cub Scout's know this one, Ha Ha,

.......... My Angel Wife Just Said to You All ! ...........
" If Not You Than Who, If Not Now Then When "

We will share more in the posting, " LATEST WARNING'S HOTLINE "

Boy, am i getting old, & some day's I feel it, but God is't finished with me, or us yet,
so hang in there My Dear Brother's & Sister's ! ,.............. BECAUSE IT"S ! ........

............. Many say ... " It's, ... All For Our Spiritual Family's, & Great, Great, Grandchildren's Future's, & I Totally Agree, .. How About You ! " ..................
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Sorry, but I can't in good conscience choose any of those four options. My best answer would be:
The idea that something bad will happen this fall / winter is affecting my preparation.

I just returned from Las Vegas, accompanying my wife who was attending a conference. On past trips to Vegas I have consistently seen casinos busy around the clock, but not this time. In the morning the casinos were mostly dead and eerily quiet - even at the big name casinos. At lunch and in the afternoon there were more people in the casinos but gamblers were still pretty sparse. Things picked up in the evening and the casinos were fairly crowded from dinner time until I turned in - the latest time being just after midnight. But even in those busy times there were a lot more people walking around than actually gambling.

Older/Wiser mentioned seeing a large change in spending habits. I am not in a position to regularly see that, but I was shocked to see how poor business was in Las Vegas. And when I was fantasizing about a dream vacation I was surprised to see that the cheapest frequent flier mile award tickets for flights crossing oceans were easy to find in late summer and fall. Premium seats are still booking well in advance, but if I had the money for a week in Paris, Dubai, Sydney, or Tokyo I could probably leave on a discount coach frequent flier ticket next week.

I am convinced the odds are good that something bad will happen this fall, and it is changing my preparation in one way:
I live near Seattle, where the temperature can get into the 90s and where very few people have air conditioning. Understanding that heat and powdered milk don't mix, I have put off buying as much powdered milk as an old church brochure advises I acquire. But I plan to buy that milk, if I can afford it, before the end of this month. I don't have any kind of proof and can't point to a personally received vision, but I do believe that the economy is in the toilet and about to start rotating.

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I'LLMAKEYAFAMOUS wrote:
gkearney wrote:Ah...Something always happens all the time, could we be a bit more specific?
Agreed. What kind of "big"events would we be considering?
There are so many predictions out there. It just has to be a big event that would drastically change our way of life and necessitate food storage, savings or other similar preparations on a wide scale.

Where I live, the economy is booming. Staffing positions in my current occupation is a nearly impossible task and almost every business has a help wanted sign. Police shootings are rare and riots unheard of. From my perspective, it seems illogical to think that something would happen in the near future.

However, I do feel like something will happen this fall or winter. I am willing to go on the record saying that because I'm willing to be wrong. I have heard many other people say roughly the same thing and I wanted an idea of how prevalent this thinking is. Oftentimes, I feel like I am deluding myself that something will happen, having been studying the collapse for over twelve years. Just the other day, I was at the store buying some books and I just got a peaceful feeling like I didn' t need to prepare anymore. I still feel like something will happen this fall or winter, though. I'm not sure how to reconcile that.

Prior to that feeling, my belief in the short timeline affected my preparations in that I started to change the order in which I acquire my preparations. I still have a ways to go in terms of communications, books, educational materials, and manufacturing items. I wanted to obtain more food in case friends or relatives come to my house. I had moved more to books because the knowledge in books can allow you to adapt to many different circumstances.

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I know it really doesn't matter if something happens this fall or winter, and I know we won't wake up and everything will be dried up or gone. What I do see is the great resources we have had , the abundance will change. I look to Joseph in Egypt and how in the beginning they would come and trade or buy their supplies, in the end of the 7 years they were in servitude for there needs. So when something happens I would expect the first thing would be rationing ,and you would then be unable to get enough to put away your "food storage" and after several years of struggles it will probably be that the 3 months of supplies will be the difference. You can always spot people who lived through the depression, open a kitchen drawer , you will find bread bags, pieces of used foil, rubber bands, etc. They remember how hard things can really be. Fall or winter doesn't matter if you make it through the tribulations 3mts supplies might be the difference.

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The global economy is a big ponzi scheme of debt and it will unravel spectacularly/overnight type of crash. Things might still go on for a little while but time will be up for preparing as it is starting to rain as in the days of Noah.
Natural disasters will greatly accelerate and compound the global problems this fall/winter.

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