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Older/wiser?
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So I started this thread to get an idea on just what kind of preparations some of you are doing. If you really think the elections might change things, how are you backing up your beliefs so to speak. Other than food storage which is a given, what talents or ideas have you
Come up with to make your situation improved. I believe in trade and barter, a friend down the street does all his hay mowing with his Belgium horses just for this reason. Last year I felt the need to get some Nubian goats and all the trimmings (pasteurization machine,hand milking machine etc.) . So following this train of thought, I am curious as to what others think the needs will be and what they are doing to make themselves able to survive in a "Venezuelan type collapse ". I live in a rural community and realize most don't , but ideas
For individual prep come through the spirit , so how do you solve your prep problems?

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I already have my food storage, camping supplies, basic survival skills, hunting experience, and a spare pair of boots. But I think I am still lacking on the spiritual side. If I really had the faith I wouldn't have any fear regarding my fellow man and, like Nephi, I could rely on the power of the priesthood to protect myself. But I am trying to steadily improve in that field.

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I don't think it's faith lacking to look at history or see the collapse of countries. Is it not wisdom to step away from a train derailing . Who's to say that the power of the priesthood won't be in place and used at some point. I believe the spiritual preparation is intertwined with the temporal. Skills and talents from each will be the uniting factor. I think the faith comes when your asked to share your last cup of flour. You know in yourself what you would do , there in lies your faith. Your skills could be a great asset, if there is anything or knowledge you could gain to sharpen them now is the time. I have books on preserving meats the old way(not a hunter) and salt, salt used to be a trading commodity valuable, so cheap now.

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I'm good to go. I follow any promptings I receive. I had one two days ago and followed up on it.

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Curious as to what it was care to share?

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Older/wiser? wrote:So I started this thread to get an idea on just what kind of preparations some of you are doing. If you really think the elections might change things, how are you backing up your beliefs so to speak. Other than food storage which is a given, what talents or ideas have you
Come up with to make your situation improved. I believe in trade and barter, a friend down the street does all his hay mowing with his Belgium horses just for this reason. Last year I felt the need to get some Nubian goats and all the trimmings (pasteurization machine,hand milking machine etc.) . So following this train of thought, I am curious as to what others think the needs will be and what they are doing to make themselves able to survive in a "Venezuelan type collapse ". I live in a rural community and realize most don't , but ideas
For individual prep come through the spirit , so how do you solve your prep problems?
We've wanted milk goats now for a few years but aren't quite ready for them yet. How much did it cost for you to get set up with the goat, machines, and all? I don't know if we would get anything besides the goat and a bucket.

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Ah I found mine from a guy in Layton , I have his number I paid $95.00 ea. Nubians have a good butter content honestly the milk I tasted was great. We are going to breed them this
Winter, and baby goats the family fights over who gets to bottle feed. The hand milker I got
From eBay $85. There is a more expensive one $200. Called utterlyeze I plan on getting
The Pasteurizer also eBay stainless steel was $ 375. Thought I try my hand at cheese making
Got my supplies and press now just so I have options. You can make a simple cheese out of
Powdered milk, lemon juice salt. It is like a Ricotta . Good way to use extra powdered milk
LDScop how's that garden going?

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Moving to higher ground.
Well, not moving yet, but looking around on the higher ground as to where to move to.
I'm working on it. I hope to be there soon.
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More long term food storage. That is the same prompting I have been getting for years now. As a side note, that is the prompting (food storage) I've been getting for quite some time in the capacity of my stake calling as well.

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On a stake level what percent do you think are prepared, active members

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Make more money. That's the brunt of it right now.

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We have dairy goats that I milk by hand. I would never recommend more than a few for anybody inexperienced in goat husbandry. I make butter, occasionally a soft cheese that requires no rennet and soap. We also raise our own poultry for meat and eggs. I just started raising rabbits for butcher and we have a few cows. I also have horses and a wagon if there was ever a gas shortage. Oh and of course the garden and orchard. I may venture out and learn to make my own lye to make my soap.

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JohnnyL wrote:Make more money. That's the brunt of it right now.
Me too, Johhny, me too.

I wondered about my ward here in the big city.
But after getting into the houses of several ward members I have seen the extensive food storage of some. So, there are some that are prepared.
Talking this week a member was telling me about 2 special type goats he had and how people had befriended him because of these goats. He ended up giving them to one who took them to his ranch in Utah.
I have looked at a house for sale in Utah, with a goat cheese factory (small) attached. I could go into the goat cheese business.
It's a good idea, if you find yourself short of money or out of work. Start eating the food supply. To see if you can do it. But really, you should be doing that regularly anyway.
That way the supply never gets too old. Or ends up going to waste.
dc

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I agree, If you believe something, you should walk your talk. I am always trying be more prepared, and always believing that I am still short. Recently I bought a case of D-Cell batteries.

I always thought that skills and tools are important. I have a small machine shop, and all of my adult sons know how to turn a wrench. This past week, a former bishop's brother had a bracket break on his Cub Cadet Mower Deck. He asked me if I had any kind of a welder. I told him that his brother could use my acetylene, or my stick welder or my MIG. Apparently, although he and his brother were Idaho farm boys, and know their way around welding, his brother wanted someone to weld it. I told him that I didn't feel comfortable doing it myself, but I had a son that was a professional welder. So he brought over the deck, and my son welded it (he chose the MIG welder).

Bottom line .... Never ready, but everybody should keep working on pushing the envelope every day, and hope that God will bless us by "filling in" the gaps for us... which I think he will do if we do the best we can.

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Older/wiser? wrote:Ah I found mine from a guy in Layton , I have his number I paid $95.00 ea. Nubians have a good butter content honestly the milk I tasted was great. We are going to breed them this
Winter, and baby goats the family fights over who gets to bottle feed. The hand milker I got
From eBay $85. There is a more expensive one $200. Called utterlyeze I plan on getting
The Pasteurizer also eBay stainless steel was $ 375. Thought I try my hand at cheese making
Got my supplies and press now just so I have options. You can make a simple cheese out of
Powdered milk, lemon juice salt. It is like a Ricotta . Good way to use extra powdered milk
LDScop how's that garden going?
I will have to get with you when we are ready to get our goats. The garden is going good. Everything is growing well with minimal weeds. We already ate all of our radishes and we eat lots of salad and spinach right now. Everything else looks like it will produce well at harvest time. Now I need to cut down a big dead tree for firewood that is next to my house.

As far as other preps, I have had lots of impressions lately. It seems like every day there is something else I feel to do or get. I am just trying to keep it all organized. I don't think one can ever be done prepping or ready for everything.

I'm trying to focus more, almost exclusively, on personal and family spiritual preparedness. The following scriptures are morale patches on our 72 hour backpacks. Miracles will happen for those who are spiritually ready. Through mighty faith and by the grace of God.

Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


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Older/wiser? wrote:On a stake level what percent do you think are prepared, active members
Define what you mean by prepared.

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'When thou art converted strengthen they brethren' I have convinced at least two others in the ward to start with food storage and the third is getting interested.
After food and water storage and family preparedness plan and security, veg garden with rabbits - bug out location, 2hours a day reading news and checking prepper sites so one can get a preemptive knowledge before things go south.
I also belong to a few online prepper site where we occasional have meet ups - so building a network of resources.

The process is endless like ham radios etc... getting advanced medical training ....

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Unfortunately I don't live in an area where I can get livestock or have a large garden. I am prepared with a food storage which I hope will be sufficient for quite awhile if I have to rely on it.

I recently bought some solar panels that are good enough to keep some of my electronic devices like my laptop powered. At least I'll have something to do! A 12 hours of solar collecting is enough to charge the battery for 3 hours of use. It would also work for a keeping a cell phone charged but I doubt that would be useful with the cell towers most likely to be down.

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IMO prepared means really having a yrs. supply of the things you would need to care for yourself and your family. Treating this counsel as important as thithing, word of wisdom ,any other counsel given, keeping the sabbath day holy , Just wondering how many people in a given stake really try to do this. In my ward I don't see much current effort made. Maybe they feel because we are rural we have more local resources or the reality of being hungry or wanting for anything is so far removed people can't see that happening . I can say around here there are those who work at it (few there be) and many who consider it good advise but optional advise.
Spaced out said 2 others , really that's it. The spirit of "preparedness " I believe has gone to many who are not LDS as I have been told by friends who run Walton (the local food storage co.) Maybe it is like any other counsel, you gain a testimony of it as you live it, and if you don't live it you simply don't see the need to make any sacrifice for it.

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Not much prepping in our ward/stake that I can tell. We've lived here almost 30 years and know all the members in the two wards in our town, and many others in farther away units. The subject never - and I do mean never - is talked about in our sacrament meetings, stake conferences, etc. We know a handful of families who have some food storage - none are 'preppers' as most would define the word. If you bring up preparedness (beyond the bare minimum), you either get ignored (with eyes rolling), or told things like, "this is as bad as it's going to get", etc. I mentioned a few pretty obvious possible scenarios to our Bishop's wife awhile ago (just in conversation, nothing too heavy), and she grabbed my arm and said, "I just can't think about things like that, it's too scary!!" And really, the subject was just what if there was a trucking strike and no food was brought in for a few weeks - not even one of the more 'scary' things to ponder. So anyway, not much prepping interest around here in the upper Midwest.

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My ward I is better than my stake. My ward has 5-6 families that are squared away for sure. I have never been one to probe too hard...you know, be the grey man. There are several I suspect are in pretty good shape too, but again, I don't pressure for information. I know of another 4-5 families that are actively pursuing preparedness. There are probably another dozen or so that are doing something, but I don't know that I would call it a priority.

At the stake level I don't ask for numbers. I know from my discussions with the specialists that there are several families in the stake who are squared away. I know of several who are prepared from our "other ward" prior to the boundary changes a few years ago.

At least two members of the stake presidency are included, two high councilman and one bishop. I know my bishop is in the actively working on it group, along with one of his counselors. The other is in the 5-6 prepared families.

If I were to make a guess I would put our whole stake at 3-5% are truly ready. With another 10-15% doing something to get ready. I define doing something as literally doing ANYTHING to prepare.

Our stake presidency is on board with the message, particularly the SP. It's my assignment to get the ward specialists to catch that vision and then pass it along to their wards. I've had success with some and none with others. The two best ones I had were only in the calling for a year. One moved and the other was released.

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Relief Society used to have Homemaking Meetings where they'd help others learn how to can food, learn how to rotate goods, small garden growing help/advice and food storage advice. Anyone's wards still doing that? I haven't see my local wards do this at all in years.

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Oh goodness - nothing like that ^^ in our ward in, well, ever. With the exception of gardening - we do have the occasional RS meeting about that.

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What are you doing about water?

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