The Trump Victory: What We Saw And What We Need To See

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The Trump Victory: What We Saw And What We Need To See

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The Trump Victory: What We Saw And What We Need To See
By Chuck Baldwin
November 10, 2016
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What We Saw

Let’s be honest: we saw a historic election Tuesday night. The only election coming close to the stunning proportions of this election was Ronald Reagan’s first election in 1980. And even that one didn’t match Trump’s victory. Yes, it was a stunning victory for Donald Trump.

Let’s be clear about what we witnessed. In one presidential election, we saw a man completely demolish the neocon and neolib establishments of both major parties; the media establishment; the globalist establishment; Wall Street; the political machine of an incumbent President; and the Clinton/Bush political/criminal empires. The odds of ANYONE being able to overcome the combined wealth and power of the leviathans above was absolutely zero. Each one of the listed cabals has enough power to destroy any would-be challenger. That Donald Trump was able to beat them all was truly incredible--maybe even miraculous. And he not only beat them; he trounced them.

Over the years, Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul had done the preliminary work of loading the bases for Trump. These men helped awaken the sleeping giant that roared to life Tuesday night. But it was Donald Trump who knocked the ball clean out of the park. And he did it as an outside slugger in the opposition’s home park--a park in which the owners, officials, and gatekeepers had rigged the game to insure he would strike out. To their shock and dismay, he didn’t.

Make no mistake about it: the globalists, neocons, neolibs, international bankers, national media, and power establishment in both major parties are scrambling now to figure out how they were beaten and what they must do to try to reclaim the sudden loss of their power and influence.

Donald Trump might have delayed the total destruction of our freedoms--at least for awhile. We’ll see.

It would certainly appear that the Clinton/Bush Crime Family has been dealt a serious, if not fatal, blow. In one presidential campaign, Donald Trump sent Jeb Bush to the showers and sent Bill and Hillary packing (maybe for another country in order to try to stay out of a U.S. prison). I suggest that the Clintons consider Qatar. It is a country that successfully purchased much influence in Bill’s presidential administration and Hillary’s Secretary of State’s office, and it is also a country that does not participate in U.S. extradition policy.

I tell you the truth, breaking up the Bush/Clinton Crime Family and perhaps ridding the United States of their death grip on U.S. politics might be the GREATEST success of Trump’s victory Tuesday night. The swamp was drained a lot just by getting rid of the Clintons (forever)--and maybe the Bushes too (at least for quite a while).

And forgive me for gloating just a bit. Over a year and a half ago, on April 14, 2015, I made this bold prediction on my Facebook page: “You heard it here first: Hillary Clinton will NOT be our next President.”

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As far as what’s visible, the biggest loser Tuesday night was the mainstream media (MSM). Never in history had the MSM banded so tightly together with the single goal and aim in mind of completely destroying one man’s political campaign. They were relentless and ruthless. They truly used every dastardly, duplicitous, and devilish trick in the book to defeat Trump. And, for once, the American people completely saw through it.

People in this country have been growing increasingly fed up with the overbearing, arrogant, holier-than-thou, rub-your-nose-in-the-dirt establishment. They are sick and tired of the political elite, such as the Clintons, getting away with corruption and criminality. They are sick and tired of corrupt presidents circumventing Congress and attempting to make law via unconstitutional executive orders. They are sick and tired of the media demeaning and lying to them day after day after day. They are sick and tired of all of these foreign wars of aggression that kill and maim their family members while enriching the political and corporate elite. They are sick and tired of immoral entertainers in music and Hollywood flaunting their corrupt and debauched lifestyles while telling them how evil they are for not supporting their corrupt and debauched buddies in politics.

Speaking of the corrupt Hollywood elite, here is another potential blessing of Trump’s victory Tuesday night: several Hollywood super-smuts have said they would leave the country if Trump won. These include Barbra Streisand, Bryan Cranston, Miley Cyrus, Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer, Jon Stewart, Samuel Jackson, Whoopi Goldberg, Neve Campbell, Keegan-Michael Key, George Lopez, Ne-Yo, and Al Sharpton. I hope they are all buying their one-way plane tickets as we speak. It would be worth a Trump victory watching these people’s backsides disappearing over the horizon.

What We Need To See

We need to see Donald Trump follow through with what he said he would do (the good stuff that is). If he doesn’t, it is all but certain that he will be a one-term President.

He needs to follow through with strict enforcement of our national borders. He needs to stop illegal immigration. He needs to deport the Middle Eastern refugees that Obama brought into the country. He needs to cut off financial aid to the illegal aliens that are already here. He needs to immediately lead the charge in a totally Republican Congress to rescind Obamacare. He needs to put an end to our endless wars of aggression in the Middle East. He needs to leave Syria alone and stop meddling in President Assad’s internal affairs. He needs to pull NATO back from encroaching on Russia’s territorial boundaries, waterways and airspace and let Vladimir Putin know that the United States will stop being a global bully. He needs to instruct our CIA (and find a director who will enthusiastically follow his instructions) to withdraw ALL covert U.S. support for Muslim terror groups such as ISIS--in which case, they would quickly dissolve.

Trump needs to lead the charge in Congress to reduce taxes and government regulation and spending across the board. If he would propose dismantling the EPA, BLM, OSHA, and the federal Department of Education (and throw in the Department of Commerce and a bunch more of these government bureaucracies whose only reason for existing is to harass the American people), we would know he means business. He needs to tell the ATF to get off the backs of law-abiding gun manufacturers, retailers, and gun owners. And he needs to fire FBI Director James Comey.

Trump needs to follow through with his trade policies. He needs to lead the charge to expunge NAFTA, to kill TPP dead in its tracks, and to institute fair trade practices, including enacting competing tariffs and imposts and removing the egregious taxes and regulations that have forced businesses to relocate production plants overseas--and give them every financial incentive to bring them back to the United States.

Trump needs to appoint a Supreme Court justice that not only recognizes the constitutional rights of life and gun ownership and possession but one that is also determined to protect the Fourth Amendment. He also needs to follow through with his stated intention of urging Congress to remove the 1954 Johnson Amendment from the 501c3 tax code. In addition, he needs to sign an executive order rescinding most of the executive orders issued by former presidents Obama, Bush, and Clinton.

Trump needs to appoint a special prosecutor to thoroughly investigate and then prosecute Hillary and Bill Clinton along with many of their willing accomplices. If Trump truly wants to drain the swamp, he must begin by bringing these career criminals to justice.

These are the things that we need to see, and if Trump is as genuine and committed to liberty as he claims to be, many of these things we will see.

Now let me caution everyone. That Donald Trump was not controlled by the establishment was obvious. But that doesn’t mean for one second that he cannot yet become controlled by the establishment. Being an outsider does not necessarily mean that Donald Trump truly understands the reach and tentacles of the globalist conspiracy. I truly hope he does; but only time will tell.

Plus, we need to be praying much for Trump’s personal safety, because the power elite would not hesitate to assassinate this man if they felt he was a genuine threat to their globalist agenda and that killing him was the only way they could stop him. I remind you that Mr. Reagan was shot just 70 days after assuming office. Remember that the establishment was absolutely convinced that Hillary would win the White House up to and even during the elections. Trump’s victory came as a total shock to them. I hope everyone around him comprehends the threat level that Donald Trump is now living under and that they are doing everything possible to protect him.

In the meantime, don’t expect House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to willingly support Trump, should he follow through with a smaller government domestic agenda and a non-interventionist foreign policy agenda. At their core, Ryan and McConnell are globalist neocons. In fact, if the Republican caucus in the House truly wants to work with Trump, they will elect a brand new Speaker, one that shares Trump’s stated vision.

Speaking of which, here are some of the things that we do NOT need to see:

We do not need to see Trump putting a lot of neocons and globalists in his administration. This is what seriously compromised Ronald Reagan’s presidency. Trump already chose a soft globalist, Mike Pence, as his Vice President. Reagan chose Granddaddy Globalist George H.W. Bush, which led to all of the assaults against our liberties that have taken place through the successive administrations of Bill Clinton, G.W. Bush, and Barack Obama.

We need to pay close attention to who Trump places in his administration. During his victory speech, he lauded neocon globalists Rudy Giuliani and Chris Christie. That was not a good sign. If Trump loads his cabinet with neocons, globalists, and CFR members (of which none is worse than Newt Gingrich), he dooms his presidency. These people are no friends of liberty or the Constitution and would use their considerable influence to dilute Trump’s less government, more freedom agenda.

We do not need to see Trump giving police agencies the green light to “stop and frisk” people. This has always been one of my greatest concerns about Trump. If he’s not very careful, his strong “law and order” agenda can morph into a further burgeoning Police State.

We do not need to see Trump targeting religious houses of worship for unconstitutional searches and harassment. Freedom of religion is sacrosanct in this country, even for those people whose religion we dislike. Once you eviscerate First Amendment protections for one group of people, NO group of people is safe from government persecution. Germany’s Martin Niemöller taught us that.

Trump’s victory was truly stunning. It was the triumph of freedom-loving people who are fed up with an obnoxious, abrasive, overbearing, arrogant ruling class. Truly, it was the people’s victory. But now those same people must be vigilant to make sure that the ruling class they defeated at the polls does not come back and corrupt the champion who led the revolt. It is okay for people to celebrate--as long as they don’t then do what they have been known to do so often: go into a state of deep and protracted slumber. I remind you that most of the damage to our liberties over the past several decades has come from Republican administrations. Again, please remember that the GOP Congress Trump has inherited is led by staunch neocons.

“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty,” said Wendell Phillips. How right he was. Stay vigilant, folks! And let’s pray that Mr. Trump will be the President that we need “for such a time as this.” And let’s do everything that we can as citizen watchmen to make sure he is.

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It appears we have gotten a start moving the ball back down the field. Our next tricks will be to keep it actually moving before the establishment globalists (AKA latter-day gadiantons) can recover and regain the momentum they seem to have lost. I think this will mean leaning hard on our senators and congressional representatives to actively support the good things that President-elect Trump said he would do. These include supporting

strict enforcement of our national borders.

a halt to illegal immigration.

the deportation of the Middle Eastern refugees that Obama brought into the country,

a halt to financial aid to the illegal aliens that are already here,

the rescinding of Obamacare,

an end to our endless wars of aggression in the Middle East, and the meddling in President Assad’s internal affairs,

a pull-out of NATO back from encroaching on Russia’s territorial boundaries, waterways and airspace .

a withdrawal of covert U.S. support for Muslim terror groups such as ISIS--in which case, they would quickly dissolve,

the appointment of a CIA a director who will follow his instructions instead of those of globalists,

the reduction of taxes and government regulation and spending across the board,

the dismantling of the EPA, BLM, OSHA, and the federal Department of Education,

getting the ATF to get off the backs of law-abiding gun manufacturers, retailers, and gun owners,

the replacement of FBI Director James Comey.

the expunging of NAFTA,

the killing of the TPP dead in its tracks,

the institution of fair trade practices, including enacting competing tariffs and imposts and removing the egregious taxes and regulations that have forced businesses to relocate production plants overseas--and give them every financial incentive to bring them back to the United States.

the appointment of Supreme Court justice who not only recognize the constitutional rights of life and gun ownership and possession but who also will protect the Fourth Amendment.

the urging of Congress to remove the 1954 Johnson Amendment from the 501c3 tax code,

the generation of an executive order rescinding most of the executive orders issued by former presidents Obama, Bush, and Clinton,

the appointment of a special prosecutor to thoroughly investigate and then prosecute Hillary and Bill Clinton along with many of their willing accomplices.

This is a pretty tall order for a POTUS under the present conditions in the United States, what with the globalist establishment so firmly in control of our government and our lives. I expect that neither of our two senators and congressional representative would support many if any of these actions. But I think that among us members of the LDS Freedom Forum there those of us who know of and can contact members of Congress who could be persuaded to support at least some of these actions. They may not be your representatives. But if we are going to do all we can to preserve the freedoms we have and restore those we have lost, within the bounds of the laws of God, this might be a good place to start.

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This was no landslide.
This was the slimmest of victories possible.
Speaking of the "we" here or the Trump voters, they are the minority.
The majority of Americans buy the Hillary Clinton agenda hook, line and sinker.
It's a major delay in the inevitable.
They control the schools. That makes all the difference. The younger generation has been and will continue to be indoctrinated into that agenda, to follow it blindly.
Rather than sit around and watch the news on a daily basis, to see what Trump did this morning, or this afternoon, you might get out there and take the schools back.
That is the only thing that will work.
When I was in school 40 years ago I saw that the problem, the indoctrination had already started and was in full force, tho' not universal. Today it's the entire system.
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A great suggestion - "take the schools back". I have no idea how to shut down the FedGov's involvement in public education. We would probably have to start by getting people (including ourselves) elected to local school boards. Any other suggestions ?

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Is there any chance these bullies, who have supposedly obtained 3 to 4 million signatures, can compel enough members of the electoral college to change their votes to Hillary in December to make Hillary the new President in January instead of Trump?

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Matchmaker wrote:Is there any chance these bullies, who have supposedly obtained 3 to 4 million signatures, can compel enough members of the electoral college to change their votes to Hillary in December to make Hillary the new President in January instead of Trump?

No. Not really.
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