Communism—the Greatest Satanical Threat On The Face Of The Earth

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Communism—the Greatest Satanical Threat On The Face Of The Earth

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Probably the most direct and forceful statement regarding the identity of Satan’s organizations during these latter days was made by the late President David O. McKay to the priesthood of the Church during the General Conference of April, 1966 when he said:

The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth. (Era, June 1966, p. 477; CR 4/66:109)

This information was considered of such vital importance that President McKay repeated it in the General Conference Priesthood Session of April 1969.

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It goes by a lot of different names today, so Communism may not be as recognizable to the younger generation.

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Matchmaker wrote:It goes by a lot of different names today, so Communism may not be as recognizable to the younger generation.

"Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity. … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society."

Antonio Gramsci

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Karl Marx a Jew, sought to force, and not by freewill, to have "all things common" among the people.

This is not the will of God, that the people grudgingly, give, or be forced to be of faith, hope, and charity, and have "all things common" among them.

But as has been taught from the beginning, this is to happen among his people by "freewill", all things common among them a united order, taught and lived by those baptized and covenant people, who by their own freewill will do as written in D&C 42:55----

"And if thou obtainest more than that which would be for thy support, thou shalt give it into my storehouse, that all things may be done according to that which I have said."

This is a freewill offering, to give unto the LORD God Jesus Christ, the poor of the earth, "more than that which would be for thy support", yes do you really need 2 or 3 houses or more, while others suffer without?

And do you really need to build multi-million dollar temples, before you take care of the poor, to see that you along with them, have a home and land, food and raiment, sufficient for your wants and needs?

First see that you are equal in your temporal things, and this not grudgingly, with the tithes and offerings collected, for all having a home and land, food and raiment, amply supplied, then go and build your house of worship, and public benefit projects, to your hearts content.

This of your own freewill, and not because, you were forced to do it.

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While I have no sympathy for communism, I do not agree that it is the greatest satanical threat. It is one of the threats but not the greatest.
The greatest threat is the destruction of the family.

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As written----

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and toungues and nations.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." (See Revelation 13:7)

Yes, all they who come to know not, but are lost in ignorance forever, never coming to know and be able to keep the commandments of Jesus Christ, for they knew them not.

Good to do a personal book report, of "all" the things Jesus Christ has said to do, and be like, and know.

Baptized and covered over, deep, with all his words of living water, enscribed deep upon your very heart and soul, every word of the bread of life, feasted upon, until you know them all, by heart, and soul.

Good to come to know and understand the difference between freewill and force, by one's own choice of their heart, to be pure in heart, or not.

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Robert Sinclair,
Karl Marx a Jew, sought to force, and not by freewill, to have "all things common" among the people.
Is it of any importance that Karl Marx was a Jew?

Why not Karl Marx a Prussian, or Karl Marx a German, or Karl Mark a Caucasian ?

You are always babbling on about the descendants of Ephraim, and how special we are. Do you think that the descendants of Judah, are somewhat less important or worse than the descendants of Ephraim?

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George Clay

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They have been instructed in equity, for thousands of years. It was mentioned, as a possible thought, how to bring about "equity" by whatever means needed, even if by force, to have justice, by Karl Marx.

No more or less important, one tribe than another.

Just that the instructions of Jesus Christ, are the way to bring about "all things in common" by freewill and not by force of arms.

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Robert Sinclair,

I am confused. Your incoherent, flowery, rhetoric, obfuscates whether you think his being Jewish is or is not significant in his thinking, and the creation of such documents as the Communist manifesto.

So again, do you think that the fact that he was Jewish important to the creation of Socialist/Communist ideas?

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George Clay

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Mark wrote:
Matchmaker wrote:It goes by a lot of different names today, so Communism may not be as recognizable to the younger generation.

"Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity. … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society."

Antonio Gramsci
and I think it was Stalin that said that the goal of socialism is communism.

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gclayjr wrote:Robert Sinclair,

I am confused. Your incoherent, flowery, rhetoric, obfuscates whether you think his being Jewish is or is not significant in his thinking, and the creation of such documents as the Communist manifesto.

So again, do you think that the fact that he was Jewish important to the creation of Socialist/Communist ideas?

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George Clay
Yes, I think it had something to do with his pursuit of what he thought was just.

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Robert Sinclair,

So when one looks beneath all of those smiley faces, hearts, and pontifications, there really lurks a streak of antisemitism!

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George Clay

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I am for both the Houses of Israel, Judah and Joseph, to come to understand and know of the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, to have all things common among the people, of their own freewill, equal in their temporal things, and this not grudgingly, as Jesus Christ has had written.

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Robert Sinclair,

I'm sure you are for both houses of Israel, to wear flowers in their hair and come to YOUR idea of "freewill socialism", but that doesn't take away the fact that your comments indicate that until they find your nirvana, you believe that it is Their culture, and their historical religious beliefs that have led to such evils as Communism.

If it walks like a Duck and talks like a duck, it is a duck, no matter how many hearts and smiley faces you put around this garbage.

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George Clay

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George, why such ill will?

I have no ill will towards you.

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The precepts of men, are different then the precepts taught by the LORD Jesus Christ.

For surely it is written----

"Hear now O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? (See Ezekiel 18:25)

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The greatest threat to the saints and the people of the earth, speaking in these terms, is the secret combination. Communism (and so much more) are merely tools of this SC.

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Robin Hood wrote:While I have no sympathy for communism, I do not agree that it is the greatest satanical threat. It is one of the threats but not the greatest.
The greatest threat is the destruction of the family.

Part of communism's goal is to destroy the family. Under communism, the parents have no right and the goals of the state is to teach our children immorality.

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gclayjr wrote:Robert Sinclair,

So when one looks beneath all of those smiley faces, hearts, and pontifications, there really lurks a streak of antisemitism!

Regards,

George Clay
You are reaching here, George. What I understand Robert to be saying is that he believes that Karl Marx was influenced by his religion and that Karl Marx understood that God's desires were to have all things common, because he was a Jew. Although misguided, Karl Marx was driven by his personal sense of justice that was informed by his Jewish roots, which would have taught him that we should have all things common and no poor among us.

That is not anti-Semitism. You seem to be looking for ways to try to discredit Robert Sinclair or to speak evil of him.

-Finrock

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gclayjr wrote:Robert Sinclair,

So when one looks beneath all of those smiley faces, hearts, and pontifications, there really lurks a streak of antisemitism!

Regards,

George Clay
George picks up the antisemitism cudgel. Such a multi-purpose instrument, being almost absolute in squashing any legitimate criticism of anything bad any given Jew or group of Jews might be involved in.

Hugh Nibley has noted that Jews are often found doing or involved in some of the best actions possible, but on the other hand, are often involved in activities just the opposite.

Is it anti-semitic for me to be upset by and to publicly decry Sarah Silverman's statement saying, in so many words: "~If Jesus were alive, I would murder him again by myself?"

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Any well intentioned person, trying to establish equity and justice, outside the guidlines set up by God, as is in ZION, will not be able to establish equity and justice by freewill of the people, for the people.

However well intentioned, it must needs be set up, following the guidelines, established by the one for this earth as written----

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

Yes, even the Lamb of God, The Bridegroom, known, as the Lord Jesus Christ.

Should we follow his instructions, and commandments, for establishing a united order, a govenment given for the benefit of his church, and the temporal salvation of his people, we will have equity and justice, peace and goodwill, among his people, who love him and serve him, and one another.

Good to hearken unto, and follow the instructions, given of the Lord Jesus Christ.

This way you may have "All Things Common Among You", of freewill, and not by force of arms.

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Communism is a godless theology. There is no room for religion. The State becomes God and you must do everything for the State. You won't do good because you fear God and want to please God by keeping his commandments. You will serve the State all for the collective good of the State. Right now there are powerful people trying to get progressivism into the Catholic church. I promise I won't be long before we will be persecuted by progressive religions that say that we need to get with the times. It doesn't matter how many people vote to change Gods laws, God won't budge. We will have to take a stand.

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