Chaos will erupt across America in less than 100 days... no matter who wins the election

[moonwhim]

very interesting speculation.....who knows.....?

Chaos will erupt across America in less than 100 days... no matter who wins the election
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

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(NaturalNews) The clock is ticking for America. There are 70 days remaining until the presidential election, and after the results are counted, America will be a tinderbox ready to explode no matter who wins.

What follows is an educated analysis of the political friction now escalating in America. Note carefully that nothing in this article should be construed as any intention to call for violence of any kind. I do reference such acts, however, as part of human history as well as likely outcomes in our near future. What I'm offering here is an analysis and a warning, along with a call to prepare for what's coming.

If Trump wins, the left goes full terror
As I've publicly predicted numerous times over the last year, if Donald Trump wins, the radical extreme leftists go on a violent rampage that leads to the rest of us begging for martial law. After half a dozen cities burn with riots and looting, Trump invokes a national emergency, deploying National Guard troops across the most devastated urban areas, and the radical left finds itself in a shooting war with the government.

If Hillary Clinton wins, all the Trump supporters who have been violently assaulted, spat upon and physically attacked by the radical left un-holster their concealed weapons and start shooting back. This quickly escalates into open warfare between lunatic leftist Hillary supporters and armed Trump "Second Amendment" people who basically figure they've got nothing left to lose anyway, so why not fight to save America?

This was all pointed out in an insightful reader comment posted to The Burning Platform on August 29th:

With the rise of Donald Trump, the plan of the political elites has been to provoke violence and blame it on him, thus scaring the normal populace. Early-on there were the road-blockings, the threatened riots, the cancelled events in Chicago and Cincinnati, the beatings, the police ordered to "look the other way"…and it has continued: The screaming harassment and physical attacks on Trump supporters as they leave his rallies. The spitting. The intimidation. The thrown eggs. The shoves and punches. The cars blocked and damaged. The hats snatched off people's heads, stomped on, and then burned on the ground...

The people who support Trump are increasingly well-armed, and increasingly seething with justifiable rage. For now they hold back. Donald Trump himself has repeatedly observed that "the safest place in America" for anti-Trump protesters is at Trump rallies. And that is true. For now (except for the one old cowboy who punched out the protester, he was an octogenarian outlier). Why is this? Why the docility in the face of clear provocation?

It is because Trump supporters understand that any retaliatory violence now will be instantly, widely, and incessantly portrayed by the whorish mainstream media as proof that "Trump is dangerous" and "Trump's movement is violent" and "Trump invites violence." So his supporters endure the abuse. They endure the spittle. They endure the shoves and punches. They endure the theft of their possessions. They endure the damaged cars and the incessant harassment. For now, for the sake of their political movement and the candidacy of Donald Trump, they do not strike back...

But what happens after the election? It matters not who wins. If Hillary Clinton is elected, by hook or by crook, the mass movement harnessed by Donald Trump will be free to respond to physical attacks. If Donald Trump wins the Presidency, there will similarly be no reason to continue to endure physical attacks and humiliations by the street thugs of the Democrats. Whether Trump or Hillary Clinton is in the White House, there will be no reason to hold back.

Hundreds of millions of guns across America are now in the hands of people who are fed up with being stomped on, ridiculed and marginalized by a corrupt leftist regime that's destroying America
Do the math on this one: You've got 44% of U.S. households that now own guns (and not just one gun each, but several different types of guns). Over the last 8 years, President Obama's anti-gun rhetoric has resulted in the largest surge of gun sales to private citizens ever recorded in American history. As a result of Obama's criminal efforts to try to destroy the Second Amendment via false flag operations such as Operation Fast and Furious, more Americans than ever now own battle rifles such as ARs, AKs and PTR 91s.

People bought all these guns for a reason. And they sure didn't buy them just to turn them over to a corrupt criminal government.

The reader comment continues:

Whatever happens after this Presidential election, it will have been unleashed by the corporate elites and their servants in the media and elsewhere. They will be responsible for blood in the streets... And many will cheer it.

What the author is saying is, essentially, America is quite likely just 70 days away from the start of the next revolution... or even events that could escalate into Civil War.

A Hillary victory would set off an immediate popular revolt
If Hillary wins the election, it's hard not to imagine some sort of popular revolt across America as the citizens reject the obvious criminality and corruption of not just the Clinton crime family but also a complicit mainstream media. The same media that has funneled millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation also intentionally downplays all the Clinton scandals. The entire system is a corrupt, incestuous, rigged f--kfest that benefits the deceitful plutocrats whom the voters are sick and tired of seeing remain in power.

As world history teaches us, it would only take a tiny fraction of the American people marching on Washington to overthrow the corrupt regime and install a new interim government while arresting the mainstream journalists and calling for new, open elections. So much of America is already at the breaking point now that such a move would very likely enjoy widespread support from the population at large.

Such actions are far more common than you might suspect in other countries around the world. When the masses reach their limit on corruption and criminality at the highest levels of government, history has shown they frequently march on the capitol, arrest the traitors, and install new officials to run the government. Sometimes, these people end up being dictators or tyrants who make things worse, so such actions should never be taken lightly. Revolt should only be the very last, reluctant option after every legal, democratic method of restoring the law has been attempted and denied.

If any of this sounds surprising to you, you probably need to study world history and read about the French Revolution, the Bolivar campaign across South America, the Fidel Castro takeover of Cuba, the CIA-instigated revolutions of Central and South American nations, the Cultural Revolution of China, and of course the American Revolution. If you don't know anything about history, then you have no clue how history reliably repeats itself as human populations re-experience the same tyrannies, the same political deceptions and the same inner call for freedom that our ancestors already lived through (or died for).

There's nothing new under the sun... everything we are about to experience has happened before. (And the Clintons are nothing new, either. They're the same old corrupt crony tyrants and sleaze peddlers we've always seen seeking power to rule over others.)

If Trump wins, the globalist banksters crash the debt bubble to unleash mass chaos
Now let's shift gears and explore what happens if Trump wins the election. The day after the election results show Trump to be the clear winner, radical leftists break out into mass protests across America. But Obama is still in power at this point, and Trump won't actually occupy the White House until early 2017. So for the remainder of 2016, Obama will open the borders wide open and even encourage as many illegals as possible to invade the USA in a final "mad dash" to the USA.

Very soon after Trump takes office, the globalist criminal bankers will deliberately crash the global debt bubble so they can blame it all on Trump. Supported by the lying, wholly dishonest propaganda media (CNN, WashPost, NY Times, etc.), global info-terrorists like George Soros will call for Trump's impeachment.

Trump, in turn, will likely call upon "Second Amendment people" to defend America against the globalist attempts to bring it down and destroy his presidency. This situation quickly escalates into a variety of skirmishes across America, which might include many events that could seem unimaginable today: Armed patriots taking over mainstream media broadcast centers, leftist terrorists bombing federal buildings, a rash of sudden "suicides" of high-level Trump loyalists, organized gang assaults on local police stations, the United Nations unleashing "blue helmet" troops on U.S. soil, a "surge invasion" of illegal aliens from Mexico during a time of national vulnerability, international cyber attacks on America's power grid infrastructure, and even widespread calls for states like Texas to secede from the union.

Once the globalists declare open warfare against the Trump administration, all bets are off and anything could unfold over the next few years. Expect things to get very nasty, very desperate and incredibly violent. Life as you know it in America is about to be disrupted in a serious way.

By the way, I also predict that Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and Anonymous will all play key roles in these unfolding events, exposing mind-blowing government secrets that spur populations across many western nations into escalating their action against the corrupt government regimes they've foolishly allowed to rule over them. Much of the real war taking place across our globe right now is a cyber war... a "war of secrets" where the hackers and cyber activists are increasingly exposing all the corruption and criminality of governments, which maintain their power by constantly lying to the public and withholding the truth.

The political establishment as we know it today will not survive intact
When it's all said and done, if Trump wins the presidency, the political establishment as we know it today will be obliterated on multiple levels. For starters, the people have already lost faith in the establishment system, and if things escalate, it's not difficult to envision a near future where Hillary Clinton is imprisoned while people like Huma, Lynch and Eric Holder are tried for treason.

Even if Clinton does win the election and occupy the White House, the global end game is fast approaching anyway. A Clinton White House only further encourages the calls for revolt across the population, and Hillary's deep corruption and criminality is so despised by nearly all soldiers and police officers that it's hard to imagine her being able to demand respect from either of those groups. In fact, it's a lot easier to imagine a military coup against President Clinton that it is to imagine a successful eradication of the Second Amendment by her presidency. Even if Clinton ordered police across America to go door to door and confiscate all the firearms of private citizens, what cop would be stupid enough to even attempt such a suicide mission?

I can't overstate this point: Things are at a breaking point in America, and the only thing holding back a mass revolt right now is the looming election, which presents at least a glimmer of hope to the people of America that they might beat back tyranny and government oppression with a Trump victory. If that possibility is taken from them -- either by the election being stolen at the ballot box or already pre-stolen by outrageously biased media deceptions -- many of them will conclude that they really have no remaining option other than "refreshing the Tree of Liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants", to quote Jefferson.

America has nearly reached the fulcrum of rebellion
"We Are at a Point Where the Encroachment of Government Power Has Historically Resulted in Rebellion," explains this article at The Daily Sheeple (originally from ZeroHedge).

What Washington elites utterly fail to realize is that for many Americans, they have nothing else left to lose if they lose this election. They've already lost their job and their health coverage. In many places across America, they're losing their own national flag and national pride. They've been ridiculed, condemned and spat upon by the dishonest media and the crybully leftist f--ktards, and they realize full well that if they don't draw a line in the sand right here, right now, they're going to be disarmed, enslaved, impoverished and named "enemies of the state" in the very same country they once fought for (and pledged allegiance to).

The psyche of real America has reached its last straw. With the culture under attack, the Constitution demonized, religious beliefs targeted for merciless condemnation and the industrial base of America utterly gutted beyond restoration, there is nothing left to surrender to the demands of the tyrannical left. It is at that breaking point where, in the minds of many citizens throughout history, they pick up pitch forks and march en masse against the oppressors in power.

We are very, very close to that day in America. It may, in fact, unravel in just the next 100 days. No matter who wins this election, mass violence breaks out across America in one way or another.

Never hope for Civil War... be careful what you ask for
Remember: Civil War would be a disaster for America, which is one reason why globalists like George Soros are pushing so hard for it. We should never wish for open bloodshed and nationwide chaos.

As one voice of reason commented on The Burning Platform page:

The last civil war was disastrous for the US – not just in lives and destruction of property, but in turning what had been a truly positive political structure instantly into something much more corrupt. I see no reason to think that another civil war won't do the same.

Yes, we are being pushed towards another civil war quite deliberately. Resist the push. Figure out the real problem and go after it. I do not know exactly what the problem is, but it certainly seems to be a small group of fantastically wealthy and evil people who are using the rest of us like a sociopathic 10-year-old might fry ants. These people need to be identified and blocked from power. Soros seems to be a prominent person among them, but the various other usual suspects seem likely to be the problem as well.

Questions to ask yourself in all this
How will you feed yourself if social chaos halts food deliveries to your local grocers?

Do you possess a means of self-defense that does not depend on dialing 911 and praying somebody shows up to save you?

Do you live within walking distance of the inner cities? If so, prepare to be overrun by raging, violent, angry extremists who respect no law and actually murder police every chance they get.

Do you depend on financial payments from the federal government? How would you survive if those payments stop coming?

If you own firearms, do you know how to use them effectively and safely? When was the last time you practiced with them, or cleaned them? Do you have spare parts? Ammo? Cleaning supplies? When was the last time you checked the battery on your red dot sight?

Stock up on supplies now, food, water filters, emergency medicine kits, survival tools, and much more.

[Obrien]

... I hope not...^^^

[rewcox]

... I hope not...^^^

Maybe he means LDSFF....

[Patriot16]

Dear Moonwhim:

In my opinion, you've just presented (1) a right-winger's unconstitutional and treasonous wet dream of an opportunity to trigger a right-wing rebellion despite the disclaimers to the opposite, and (2) an unpaid advertisement to buy survival products from the Health Ranger's retail business.

The federal constitution presents lawful ways to react to an election with which you disagree and that is to accept it peacefully and then organize to work through the ballot box in the next election. There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for. I'm astounded that self-described constitution-focused "patriots" are so hot to trot for an armed rebellion against the Federal Government. As constitutionally focused as they claim to be, they evidently do not know that there is no provision -- I repeat -- no provision whatsoever in the constitution for any armed rebellion. And there's a reason for that. In 1786 and 1787, under the Articles of Confederation, there was an armed rebellion called Shay's Rebellion in Massachusetts against perceived economic injustices and suspension of civil rights (including multiple eviction and foreclosure notices). Horrified, the states sent representatives to a constitutional convention to call for a stronger national government to suppress future rebellions, resulting in the rejection and replacement of the Articles of Confederation with the current U.S. Constitutional (ratified in 1788) in part specifically to prevent future armed rebellions. Under the constitution which conservatives claim to know and revere, an armed rebellion would be an act of treason and would be unconstitutional. In fact, in 1794, whiskey producers in rural America resisted a new Federal tax on distilled spirits to pay for the Revolution. President Washington himself rode to command a national army against the rebellion. The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new national government had the will and the ability to suppress violent resistance to its laws. That's why I cannot understand how "patriots" can claim to understand and revere the constitution, but ache and dream of a right-wing unconstitutional and treasonous armed rebellion against the Federal Government.

Mr. Adams also seems to have a financial agenda in scaring people enough to get them to buy his products.

Patriot16

[DesertWonderer]

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[moonwhim]

There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for.
Patriot16

When have I ever advocated an armed rebellion?

[Spaced_Out]

Yes political tensions are high and when economy tanks prior to elections it all goes to hell in line with prophecies of US civil war. Hope you guys are all ready.

[Spaced_Out]

People bought all these guns for a reason. And they sure didn't buy them just to turn them over to a corrupt criminal government..

Satan is going to find good use for all those guns and bullets.....

[DesertWonderer]

Yes political tensions are high and when economy tanks prior to elections it all goes to hell in line with prophecies of US civil war. Hope you guys are all ready.

Ridiculous. Ever heard of Venezuela? It's infinitely worse that anything that could happen here in 100 days and you see no civil war there.

[moonwhim]

There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for.
Patriot16

When have I ever advocated an armed rebellion?

Hey, Patriot16! I am waiting for your evidence that I ache and hunger for an armed rebellion. Where is your proof? Huh? Where is your proof???

[Army Of Truth]

There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for.
Patriot16

When have I ever advocated an armed rebellion?

Hey, Patriot16! I am waiting for your evidence that I ache and hunger for an armed rebellion. Where is your proof? Huh? Where is your proof???

Also, Patriot16, what you call "armed rebellion", I call God given right to self defense of me, my family, and my country. Although I wouldn't consider it any type or form of "rebellion" since this is completely Constitutional.

I'm very familiar with Mike Adams and his work (which I love and research) and I've never seen him advocate for an "armed rebellion". That is simply fear-mongering.

[cyclOps]

Yes political tensions are high and when economy tanks prior to elections it all goes to hell in line with prophecies of US civil war. Hope you guys are all ready.

Ridiculous. Ever heard of Venezuela? It's infinitely worse that anything that could happen here in 100 days and you see no civil war there.

There can't be much of a rebellion or civil war if the citizenry is not armed.

[Juliet]

I hear on the news and at rally people counting down. It is as if they know...

[DesertWonderer]

Yes political tensions are high and when economy tanks prior to elections it all goes to hell in line with prophecies of US civil war. Hope you guys are all ready.

Ridiculous. Ever heard of Venezuela? It's infinitely worse that anything that could happen here in 100 days and you see no civil war there.

There can't be much of a rebellion or civil war if the citizenry is not armed.

Not near like we are but there are plenty of guns. They have one of the highest murder rates in the western hemisphere. What do you think they use?Guns.

[samizdat]

No matter who wins, it will be nasty. America is a powder keg with a lit fuse.

[Patriot16]

There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for.
Patriot16

When have I ever advocated an armed rebellion?

In the loving detail of the right-wing armed rebellion you described in the 8/30/16 post which began this thread. That detail suggests that you've spend some time thinking and dreaming about it. Certainly, you put in disclaimers, but the amount of text about a right-wing armed rebellion, its detail, and how certain you said it was outweigh, in my opinion the disclaimers. It's like when polygamy advocates and defenders rave on and on that its NOT about the sex, it IS about the sex.

Patriot16

[moonwhim]

There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for.
Patriot16

When have I ever advocated an armed rebellion?

In the loving detail of the right-wing armed rebellion you described in the 8/30/16 post which began this thread. That detail suggests that you've spend some time thinking and dreaming about it. Certainly, you put in disclaimers, but the amount of text about a right-wing armed rebellion, its detail, and how certain you said it was outweigh, in my opinion the disclaimers. It's like when polygamy advocates and defenders rave on and on that its NOT about the sex, it IS about the sex.

Patriot16

Where is your head at man??
I didn't describe any armed rebellion in loving detail. I just posted an article by Mike Adams. The only thing I wrote was in italics before the title of the article and I said: very interesting speculation.....who knows.....? I never spent time "thinking and dreaming about it"....I never said that anything was certain....Patriot16, you need to learn how to read properly and then comprehend what you are reading!! I imagine that everyone here is laughing at you right now!

[David13]

There are no constitutional avenues for armed rebellion as you and Health Ranger Mike Adams seem to ache and hunger for.
Patriot16

When have I ever advocated an armed rebellion?

In the loving detail of the right-wing armed rebellion you described in the 8/30/16 post which began this thread. That detail suggests that you've spend some time thinking and dreaming about it. Certainly, you put in disclaimers, but the amount of text about a right-wing armed rebellion, its detail, and how certain you said it was outweigh, in my opinion the disclaimers. It's like when polygamy advocates and defenders rave on and on that its NOT about the sex, it IS about the sex.

Patriot16

Where is your head at man??
I didn't describe any armed rebellion in loving detail. I just posted an article by Mike Adams. The only thing I wrote was in italics before the title of the article and I said: very interesting speculation.....who knows.....? I never spent time "thinking and dreaming about it"....I never said that anything was certain....Patriot16, you need to learn how to read properly and then comprehend what you are reading!! I imagine that everyone here is laughing at you right now!

Well, I'm not, as he(she?) is on my ignore list.
But what you describe there sounds like inflammatory, frantic exaggeration. Almost like shouting Fire! when someone lights up a cigarette. Rather melodramatic overreaction. But when there is some ulterior political motive to it, it's nothing but evil and sinister.
dc

[Silver]

Patriot16, let's define some terms so there is no misunderstanding. First, what does "right-wing" mean? Is that a reference to a point on the political spectrum?

[Spaced_Out]

Yes political tensions are high and when economy tanks prior to elections it all goes to hell in line with prophecies of US civil war. Hope you guys are all ready.

Ridiculous. Ever heard of Venezuela? It's infinitely worse that anything that could happen here in 100 days and you see no civil war there.

Scriptures tell us it comes like a whirlwind and not a slow decline like Venezuela. Looking at it from an outsiders perspective Americans (USA) are very aggressive and feel entitled.

One black criminal gets shot in Missouri and there are weeks of riots, now there are fully armed protesters. Joseph Smith prophecy it starts in Chicago and last month the main gangs in Chicago said they are going to employ snipers and automatic weapons against the police.

45% of households in the US get some sort of welfare/food stamps etc... when economy tanks a banking holiday of like 6 moths will be declared and shops run out in days and won't be replenished. Not like Venezuela where you have to stand in queue for 5 hours to get food - there will be none.

Storm's that hit the US like Katrina and Sandy within 2 days the people were rioting raping and killing. In NY after Sandy the emergency services were evacuating a flooded hospital and the people stoned the emergency services demanding food and heating oil as they were cold. I have seen many disasters all over the world the US is the only country where the people act that way. How long will thing last when there is a national disaster.


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[Spaced_Out]

Yes political tensions are high and when economy tanks prior to elections it all goes to hell in line with prophecies of US civil war. Hope you guys are all ready.

Ridiculous. Ever heard of Venezuela? It's infinitely worse that anything that could happen here in 100 days and you see no civil war there.

There can't be much of a rebellion or civil war if the citizenry is not armed.

Not near like we are but there are plenty of guns. They have one of the highest murder rates in the western hemisphere. What do you think they use?Guns.

Venezuela bans private gun ownership2012
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[DesertWonderer]

No. Not really:

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The click-clack of guns being cocked echoes in the cement safe house where seven kidnappers keep watch over a western Caracas slum, their 33-year-old gang leader boasting of grenade attacks on police and growing wealth and power.

Venezuela's socialist economy is suffering triple-digit inflation, severe shortages and a third year of recession, but gangs like this have found strength and profit in the chaos.

They are teaming up with former rivals and buying heavier weapons to control ever-larger territory in the capital and beyond, the criminals, the government and criminologists say.

"The majority of the other slums are our friends. It's not only us anymore, now we do business with each other," said the leader, sat at a desk with his face hidden by a black ski mask. He would only give his name as Anderson.

He said rampant inflation is forcing the gang to be even more active as it seeks to cover sky-rocketing costs for weapons, drugs and even food.

"We used to do one job a month. Right now we are doing them every week," Anderson said, before a phone pinged with news of a drugs delivery. Venezuela's economy suffered 181 percent inflation and shrank nearly 6 percent last year, and is expected to perform worse in 2016. Basic products are scarce and food riots regular.


Daily life for Venezuelans is marked by hunger, sacrifices and uncertainty after years of ongoing shortages, rampant inflation and economic recession.

Yet gangs like this are thriving.

Unlike a growing array of other armed groups in Venezuela - which include pro-government gangs and some small rural guerrilla and right-wing paramilitary forces - the street gangs are largely apolitical.

But as their reach grows, they are another destabilizing factor for President Nicolas Maduro, who is already struggling to govern a nation that is running short of food and medicines despite vast oil reserves and has one of the world's highest murder rates.

He has responded with aggressive raids by soldiers and police, a policy supported by many people sick of criminals but which rights groups say leads to executions and arbitrary arrests. Some criminologists warn the raids encourage gangs to seek out ever heavier weaponry in defense.

While some gangs are teaming up, there are still turf battles and internal disputes, and Venezuela is seeing more of the spectacular violence associated with Mexico's more powerful drug cartels. Police showed Reuters images of bodies left mutilated, hanging from bridges, or beheaded.

As he spoke, Anderson's henchman prowled around him, waving sniper rifles and pistols, changing ammunition clips and peering through a narrow window onto the rooftops and steep alleyways below, as reggae music drifted up.

They have good reason to be on guard.

Two weeks ago, in the nearby El Valle neighborhood, two factions of one gang fought for hours, leaving six leaders dead. The victorious faction released a cell-phone video showing a man pumping dozens of bullets into a victim's head.

Anderson's gang stalks victims for days before snatching them, and tries to get $5,000-$10,000 ransom paid in euros or dollars within 24 hours. He said his gang killed about 10 of its several dozen kidnapping victims last year, usually because families did not pay on time.

In the first six months of 2016, the number of kidnappings reported to just one of several national security forces soared by 170 percent to 326 compared to the same period last year.

The total number of kidnappings is believed to be many times higher than that, since most victims never go to the police.

In this highly polarized country, one of the few things both the government and its opponents agree on is that organized crime is a serious and growing problem.

Even from prison, gang leaders are able to coordinate nationally with street thugs like Anderson, who started his life of crime at 13 and spent 10 years locked up for murder.



'CONSPIRACY'

Maduro says crime is part of a conspiracy by the opposition and the United States. His opponents blame his policies and armed pro-government "collectives," which have multiplied in the past 5 years.

In the opposition-ruled state of Miranda, among Venezuela's most violent, state security chief Elisio Guzman traces the gangs' strength to a 2013 attempt by junior minister Jose Vicente Rangel Avalos to negotiate, promising gang members "territories of peace" where they would give up crime in return for jobs as laborers and support raising chickens.

"They used the money to buy new weapons and vehicles," said the crew-cut policeman, whose officers carry 9 mm pistols and feel out-gunned by gangs who buy heavier weapons on the black market, a trade the government accepts is fueled by corruption in the army.

"They have almost become a guerrilla force, guerrillas in crime," Guzman said.

In a 2015 interview with local media, Rangel Avalos denied giving up territory to the gangs as a policy.

What is not in doubt is that gangs like Anderson's often call the shots in Venezuela's slums, not police. He says the National Guard, a unit of the army used for internal security, also works with them.

"They are in business with us. We buy automatic weapons from them, tactical vests, whatever we need. And they warn us when they are going to send some cops."

The government did not respond to Reuters' requests for interviews for this story.

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MADURO FIGHTS BACK

Speaking at the headquarters of Venezuela's equivalent of the FBI last week, Maduro blamed U.S. popular culture for the rise of drug and gun crime in Venezuela since the 1990s and said gangs have become more paramilitary in nature since 2014.

As well as offering some gang members a way out, Maduro has responded with tough raids that send soldiers into poor neighborhoods in so-called People's Liberation Operations, or OLPs, emulating the iron-fisted strategy used to fight gangs in Central America and Brazil.

"It is our turn for combat," Maduro said at the event, where he gave some police a 50 percent wage hike in a bid to counter the dwindling value of their salaries.

The OLPs, which send police and soldiers sweeping through streets and grabbing suspected criminals from their homes, are popular with the public – a relief for Maduro whose overall support is barely 25 percent, according to a recent poll.

But they have also left a trail of extrajudicial killings in poor neighborhoods and their success in lowering crime is questionable.

Venezuela’s murder rate last year was 58 per 100,000 habitants, official numbers show, second only to Honduras globally.

A recent private calculation, by Dorothy Kronick, the assistant professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania, put that number even higher, at 68 per 100,000.

Even Maduro's attorney general, Luisa Ortega, warned in July the OLPs create more violence, and complained of multiple reports of abuses.

Venezuela's leading human rights group Provea said OLPs contributed to 270 extrajudicial killings at the hands of security forces in 2015, the highest number since 1992.

The operations also encourage gang leaders to unite and seek more powerful weapons, said Keymer Avila, part of a group of Venezuelan and foreign academics researching crime in the country.

At his safe house, Anderson confirmed that.

"It's better to work together than be enemies. It's better to make war with the police than with each other."

[gclayjr]

moonwhim,

While I also believe that there is a high possibility of Chaos triggered either by the election or inauguration, I think there are so many scenarios that I find it pointless to try and specify exactly who will do what to whom. I suppose it is fun to speculate as to what that scenario will be. Which as fine if one doesn't get too arrogant in thinking that they know more than they do. There are many more likely scenarios that don't involve simply one group or another simply rioting because they don't like who won. Although I think that if there is a lot of evidence that the election was stolen, that could pretty immediately trigger a lot of internal violence.

However, how about some other scenarios:

Who could be a better friend of Iran than Obama. if they have the bomb (and I do believe they already have it), they might want to do something like attack Israel before Obama leaves office

Who would be more of a wuss than Obama. If you are Putin, you might want fo do something like Invade the Ukrain before Obama leaves

Suppose that the economic numbers have been twisted even more than most people acknowledge (in order to satisfy animal spirits - Keynes), if you were the incoming president, you might want to expose it so that you don't get blamed for the coming disaster.

As you can see there are many things that could be triggered by this strange election, other than simply a group of citizen's getting mad and revolting.

I do like those Zombie Apocalypse drills, because it kind of points out that it matters little exactly who or what causes a disaster, a lot of the preparation is still the same.

Regards,

George Clay

[LDS Physician]

I personally think that we're all about to witness a fairly normal election process and then Obama will step down as the Constitution demands and the president elect will assume his or her new role as president. I don't think the "losing" side will burn the world down, start nation-wide riots. I certainly don't think massive earthquakes, plagues, and/or storms will start because of an election. It's an interesting time we're in, but I don't think this election is "IT".

[PuppyMama]

One of the things about this forum that is so difficult for me is that there seems to be a general obsession with destruction and the end of times. I guess since Julie Rowe's crap didn't pan out, focus has been shifted in this direction. Chaos is already erupting across America as thugs are shooting police officers with the implied consent of our president. I, for one, think that either candidate (though I am repulsed by both) would be less inclined to support cop killing and would therefore be a change for the better. Riots and chaos are nothing more than uncivilized adult temper tantrums. It's disgusting.