Waking Up To Secret Combinations

[lundbaek]

I'd like to forward these bits from Mark Hudson's book to certain friends and acquaintances but it would help to know more about Mark E. Hudson. I could find nothing helpful on Google. Was he once a candidate for legislative office in Utah or in Congress ?

[freedomforall]

I'd like to forward these bits from Mark Hudson's book to certain friends and acquaintances but it would help to know more about Mark E. Hudson. I could find nothing helpful on Google. Was he once a candidate for legislative office in Utah or in Congress ?

Here is the link: The Weightier Matters of the Law

The Weightier Matters of the Law

Mark Hudson, who is running for Congress in District 1 in Utah, has recently written/compiled an e-book titled “The Weighter Matters of the Law”. You can download it here.

This book says it is “a plea for the Latter-day Saints to awaken”. The introductory paragraph is as follows:

This booklet was written for the sincere consideration of my Latter-day Saint brethren and sisters in the last part of the latter days. I truly feel that anyone who will take the time to read and ponder these words will have vital information that they can consider and pray about when contemplating what we are experiencing in the last days. This information could also affect our future as well as our salvation. I am simply sharing with you my testimony about things “as they really are and as they really will be”. I testify that these things are true.

It is no surprise to those that read my blog that I believe there are secret combinations in our government and world today. I believe that the prophets have frequently spoken out about them, and it is up to those “who hath ears to hear” to listen, prepare, and act accordingly.

I have many people ask me why I care so much about it, or why I read about it constantly. This book will address those questions, and hopefully convince you and others of the importance of being aware of things “as they really are”. We cannot be saved in ignorance. Please, read the book.

SEE: http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-we ... of-the-law

For what it is worth, I could not recall where I found this info. Only tonight was I able to find a link. Now we all can be enlightened. :YMPARTY:

Conner's contact page: http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/contact

[freedomforall]

Latter-day Liberty: A Gospel Approach to Government and Politics

Individual liberty is a fundamental aspect of the good news of the gospel. But what is liberty exactly, and what role does it play in our lives? Connor Boyack explores these questions and much more in this detailed analysis of historical developments, secular information, and scriptural insights. The war in heaven continues on earth today, and our agency and liberty are under attack. Arm yourself with the truth by reading this timely book.

[lundbaek]

Thank you, FFA for the work you put into gathering all this information and compiling it here. I realize now that I heard Mark Hudson speak in SLC in the Fall of 2006 when he was a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives, representing, as I recall, the Constitution Party. Chuck Baldwin was the main speaker at that event. That was 10.5 years ago now, during which time I greatly increased my efforts to make more Latter-day Saints aware of their/our divine mandate to learn, uphold. and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, and to awake to and oppose the efforts of the "secret combination" that is increasingly gaining control over our wealth and our government. I even ran for the U.S. House myself in 2008 as an independent write-in candidate, a seemingly futile effort that, nevertheless enabled me to reach over 1000 LDS voters with my message. Unfortunately, or as I should have expected, my effort was treated as a joke by many in our ward and stake, so much so that I discontinued campaigning within our stake. Bur overall, I was and still am pleased with the result. And I still, obviously, continue to find other ways to promote my message. For example, down at the bottom of the lds.org website is a link for making comments about the site. I made the following comment and I'm anxious to see what sort of a reply I get. I wrote: "I'd like to suggest that an occasional article be posted to remind Church members that the Lord established the U.S. Constitution by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto that very purpose (D&C 101:77 & 80), and that Latter-day Saints have been told they must study the inspired Constitution and become involved in the political process ourselves to safeguard our freedoms." A big part of the freedom battle is very similar to missionary work and looking for opportunities to get the messages out to listening ears. .

[freedomforall]

Thank you, FFA for the work you put into gathering all this information and compiling it here. I realize now that I heard Mark Hudson speak in SLC in the Fall of 2006 when he was a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives, representing, as I recall, the Constitution Party. Chuck Baldwin was the main speaker at that event. That was 10.5 years ago now, during which time I greatly increased my efforts to make more Latter-day Saints aware of their/our divine mandate to learn, uphold. and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, and to awake to and oppose the efforts of the "secret combination" that is increasingly gaining control over our wealth and our government. I even ran for the U.S. House myself in 2008 as an independent write-in candidate, a seemingly futile effort that, nevertheless enabled me to reach over 1000 LDS voters with my message. Unfortunately, or as I should have expected, my effort was treated as a joke by many in our ward and stake, so much so that I discontinued campaigning within our stake. Bur overall, I was and still am pleased with the result. And I still, obviously, continue to find other ways to promote my message. For example, down at the bottom of the lds.org website is a link for making comments about the site. I made the following comment and I'm anxious to see what sort of a reply I get. I wrote: "I'd like to suggest that an occasional article be posted to remind Church members that the Lord established the U.S. Constitution by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto that very purpose (D&C 101:77 & 80), and that Latter-day Saints have been told they must study the inspired Constitution and become involved in the political process ourselves to safeguard our freedoms." A big part of the freedom battle is very similar to missionary work and looking for opportunities to get the messages out to listening ears. .

You're welcome.
It was made abundantly clear, too, that politics should not be kept outside the walls of church buildings on Sunday. Church members thinking all they have to do is learn church doctrine and not Constitutional matters are quite mistaken. D&C quotes by you prove that the Constitution is also doctrine we must embrace. Where else can the Elders of Israel come from if not from the ranks of members holding the Priesthood...to save the Constitution from complete ruin?

[lundbaek]

I agree with FFA's statement that "...the Constitution is also doctrine we must embrace." Between what the Lord said (D&C 101:77 & 80) and what latter-day prophets have told us over the years I don't see how that can be disputed. It has, however, been hotly denied by some members. A friend of mine asked Elder L. Tom Perry shortly before he died "Should the members of the Church still study and live by the U.S. Constitution ?" and told me the reply was "Absolutely!" And my friend wrote further that "He seemed quite disgusted about what is going on in this country but reiterated that the Constitution has not become less, but more important in our day.' And yet it has been made very clear to me that it is not a subject to be discussed in Church activities in our stake. A few years ago Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs wrote in his book DOCTRINES OF LIBERTY - INSIGHTS FROM THE BOOK OF MORMON "i perceive a widespread complacency within the Latter-day Saint community on all things political....the Book of Mormon...reveals the design and will of Heavenly Father concerning the political liberty of His children...we have a doctrinal imperative to preserve liberty."

[JeffB]

From: The Weighty Matters Of The Law A Plea for the Latter-day Saints to Awaken A compilation by Mark E. Hudson 2006

The Saints Can Be Deceived

The Latter-day Prophets and Apostles are constantly preaching “the milk” of the gospel, even to life-long members of the Church. “Pay your tithing”, “do your home teaching”, “go to the Temple”, “love your neighbors”, “provide for and nurture your family”, “have Family Home Evening every Monday”, “read your scriptures”, etc., are all common themes and are all very important to not leave undone. While some may get tired of hearing it, it must be needed. If the Saints cannot live the basics of the gospel and stay away from pornography, gambling, worldliness, greed, abuse and violence on their own accord, then the Prophets musts pend their time on these very basic evils and constantly warn the Saints against them. This also means that they are not able to preach about the real “meat” of the gospel and the weighty matters of the kingdom. However, I will make the case that our leaders really are speaking of “the meat” to those who have ears to hear.

There are many wonderful and faithful Latter-day Saints who are doing many of the basic, righteous things of the gospel and yet are still deceived or “blinded by the craftiness of men”. How? It is very important to be obedient to the basics of the gospel as mentioned above. Without obedience to the“milk”of the gospel we will never have the Holy Ghost with us long enough to see clearly and not be deceived nor to ultimately get the “meat”.

We know from the scriptures that even the very elect will be deceived. Consider Joseph Smith Translation of Mathew 1:22:22

For in those days there shall also arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect....

Also in Doctrine and Covenants section 76 the Lord warns that many good men of the earth will go to the Terrestrial Kingdom because they were deceived:

71 And again, we saw the terrestrial world, and behold and lo, these are they who are of the terrestrial, whose glory differs from that of the church of the Firstborn.....
75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.

Is it not possible for Latter-day Saints to be included in this definition of those who were “blinded by the craftiness of men” and hence will inherit the terrestrial kingdom because of it?President Benson apparently thought this could be the case when he stated:

“The Lord said that “the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.”(Luke 16:8) [From Benson’s Civic Standards For The Faithful Saints talk]“

President Marion G Romney also stated in a talk... ‘There is no guarantee that the devil will not deceive a lot of men who hold the priesthood.’”[From Benson’s Be Not Deceived talk in General Conference from the early 60s]

What are they talking about? Can the saints be deceived by pornography, immodesty, alcoholism, gambling, etc.? No! The Saints absolutely know that these things are wrong! Consider the very beginning, even the War in Heaven. What was it fought over?

I agree. You did a good job putting your ideas (and evidence) together. I enjoy reading and came across a fascinating book by Ken Bowers on secret combinations while at Deseret Book. Very interesting explanation on the background on secret combinations and where they are today. https://deseretbook.com/p/hiding-plain- ... -paperback

[freedomforall]

This has been posted before, yet may have a good place here too.

I give credit and thanks to the unknown compiler of it. The idea is to compare then to now. See any parallels?

61 points about Secret Combinations in the Book of Mormon

1.Secret combinations existed in times of old (2 Nephi 26:22)

2.They have secret oaths, covenants, agreements, signs, wonders, and plans (Alma 37:27,32)

3.Alma commanded his son not to reveal their secret oaths and covenants to the general public (Alma 37:27)

4.They murdered the prophets (Alma 37:30)

5.The object of all those who belonged to the secret society was to murder, rob, and gain power (Helaman 2:8)

6.They were established in the more settled part of the land (Helaman 3:23)

7.Those at the head of the government for a time did not know they existed (Helaman 3:23)

8.Many were baptized into the church while the secret society was being established (Helaman 3:24) 43 BC

9.After the people had been blessed so long with riches and were not engaged in wars, the people started to set their hearts on riches, so they began to murder and steal as part of a secret combination (Helaman 6:17)

10.They murdered chief judges (Helaman 6:19)

11.When the Lamanites found out that there were secret combinations among them, they tried to destroy them out of their midst (Helaman 6:20)

12.The Nephites united with the secret combination (Helaman 6:21) 25 BC

13.The members of the secret combination covenanted with each other that they would protect and help each other, and not let each other be brought to punishment (Helaman 6:12)

14.They had secret signs and words to identity each other (Helaman 6:22)

15.They covenanted with each other that they should not do wickedness to each other (Helaman 6:22)

16.They would punish any member of the secret combination that would reveal their wickedness (Helaman 6:24)

17.Gadianton had the same oaths and covenants in his secret combination that existed in the secret combinations of the Jaredites, yet Gadianton did not get those oaths and covenants from the plates, but from the devil (Helaman 6:26)

18.The Lamanites destroyed the secret combination from among them by teaching the word of God to them (Helaman 6:37)

19.The Nephites built them up (Helaman 6:38)

20.The secret combination among the Nephites started with the more wicked people, but eventually spread over the whole land. (Helaman 6:38)

21.The more part of the righteous of the Nephites to believe in their works and to partake of their spoils and join with them in murders (Helaman 6:38) 24 BC

22.The secret combination did obtain sole management of the government (Helaman 6:39)

23.Once in power, they began to abuse the poor and humble followers of God (Helaman 6:39)

24.Nephi asked the Lord to send a famine to get the people to repent of supporting the secret combination and performing wicked deeds. Many died, and they began to repent. (Helaman 11:4)

25.The Nephites swept the secret combination out from among them, and the famine ended (Helaman 11:10)

26.Nephite dissenters searched for the plans of Gadianton (Helaman 11:26)

27.They hid in the mountains (Helaman 11:31)

28.At first the Nephites started to repent, but then the just grew more wicked (Helaman 11:37)

29.Many dissenters of the Nephites joined the secret combination, and many of the children were flattered into joining them (3 Nephi 1:28-29)

30.The Nephites continued to fight the secret combination, even though the Nephites remained wicked (3 Nephi 2:10)

31.The leader of the secret combination invited the leader of the Nephites to become equal brothers with them in the secret combination, and equal in all their possessions (3 Nephi 3:7)

32.The leader of the secret combination declared his society and its works to be good and of an ancient date and that it has been handed down to them (3 Nephi 9)

33.The leader of the secret combination accused the Nephites of having retained the rights of government from the people (3 Nephi 3:10)

34.The leader of the secret combination demanded that the Nephites yield all their possession to them (3 Nephi 3:10)

35.The Nephites defeated the secret combination and attributed their victory to their humility and repentance (3 Nephi 4:33)

36.The Nephites put an end to the secret combination (3 Nephi 5:6)

37.Judge secretly were putting to death those that were testifying to the people about their wickedness. Only the chief judge was legally allowed to put someone to death (3 Nephi 6:23)

38.The judge formed a secret combination among themselves to avoid punishment from their crimes, using the same covenants of previous secret combination (3 Nephi 6:28)

39.This new secret combination sought to kill the people of god, kill the chief judge, and establish a king (2 Nephi 6:30)

40.They murdered the chief judge and the Nephites split into tribes (3 Nephi 7:2)

41.They caused a great contention in the land so that almost all the righteous had become wicked (3 Nephi 7:7)

42.They put a man over them as their king (3 Nephi 7:10)

43.After Christ came and the the Nephites and Lamanites were righteous for many years, they began again to build up a secret combinations (4 Nephi 1:42)

44.The Book of Mormon will be brought forth in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the Lord, because of secret combinations (Mormon 8:27)

45.The Jaredites brought with them a record of secret combinations (Ether 8:9)

46.The daughter of a Jaredite king used an ancient account of a secret combination obtaining a kingdom and great glory as a model for a plan to get her own father's kingdom back (Ether 8:9,18)

47.Moroni purposefully did not write the oaths of the secret combinations because they are already had among all people (Ether 8:20)

48.Secret combinations have caused the destruction of the Nephites (Ether 8:21)

49.Whatsoever nation that upholds secret combinations shall be destroyed (Ether 8:22)

50.Moroni wrote about the secret combinations for the benefit of the Gentiles, so that they could repent and not be overpowered by the secret combinations (Ether 8:23)

51.The Lords commands that when we see secret combinations come among us that we should awake to a sense of our awful situation (Ether 8:24)

52.Those who build up secret combinations seek to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and all people (Ether 8:25)

53.The kingdom of Omer was overthrown because of secret combinations (Ether 9:1)

54.The hearts of all the Jaredites had become corrupt because of the secret combinations (Ether 9:6)

55.The son of a king sought after secret plans of old to dethrone his father (Ether 9:26)

56.A secret combination cause the people to rebel against the king and the kingdom was split (Ether 11:15)

57.The Lord decreed that another people would possess the land because of the wickedness of the people and the secret combinations (Ether
11:21-22)

58.Mighty men rose up and tried to use their secret combination to destroy the king (Ether 13:15)

59.The secret combination killed many people in their effort to obtain the kingdom from the king (Ether 13:18)

60.A king received great strength because of secret combinations (Ether 14:8)

61.A king's high priest murdered his king, and then that high priest was murdered by a member of that secret combinations (Ether 8:9-10)

[freedomforall]

From: The Weighty Matters Of The Law A Plea for the Latter-day Saints to Awaken A compilation by Mark E. Hudson 2006

The Saints Can Be Deceived

The Latter-day Prophets and Apostles are constantly preaching “the milk” of the gospel, even to life-long members of the Church. “Pay your tithing”, “do your home teaching”, “go to the Temple”, “love your neighbors”, “provide for and nurture your family”, “have Family Home Evening every Monday”, “read your scriptures”, etc., are all common themes and are all very important to not leave undone. While some may get tired of hearing it, it must be needed. If the Saints cannot live the basics of the gospel and stay away from pornography, gambling, worldliness, greed, abuse and violence on their own accord, then the Prophets musts pend their time on these very basic evils and constantly warn the Saints against them. This also means that they are not able to preach about the real “meat” of the gospel and the weighty matters of the kingdom. However, I will make the case that our leaders really are speaking of “the meat” to those who have ears to hear.

There are many wonderful and faithful Latter-day Saints who are doing many of the basic, righteous things of the gospel and yet are still deceived or “blinded by the craftiness of men”. How? It is very important to be obedient to the basics of the gospel as mentioned above. Without obedience to the“milk”of the gospel we will never have the Holy Ghost with us long enough to see clearly and not be deceived nor to ultimately get the “meat”.

We know from the scriptures that even the very elect will be deceived. Consider Joseph Smith Translation of Mathew 1:22:22

For in those days there shall also arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect....

Also in Doctrine and Covenants section 76 the Lord warns that many good men of the earth will go to the Terrestrial Kingdom because they were deceived:

71 And again, we saw the terrestrial world, and behold and lo, these are they who are of the terrestrial, whose glory differs from that of the church of the Firstborn.....
75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.

Is it not possible for Latter-day Saints to be included in this definition of those who were “blinded by the craftiness of men” and hence will inherit the terrestrial kingdom because of it?President Benson apparently thought this could be the case when he stated:

“The Lord said that “the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.”(Luke 16:8) [From Benson’s Civic Standards For The Faithful Saints talk]“

President Marion G Romney also stated in a talk... ‘There is no guarantee that the devil will not deceive a lot of men who hold the priesthood.’”[From Benson’s Be Not Deceived talk in General Conference from the early 60s]

What are they talking about? Can the saints be deceived by pornography, immodesty, alcoholism, gambling, etc.? No! The Saints absolutely know that these things are wrong! Consider the very beginning, even the War in Heaven. What was it fought over?

I agree. You did a good job putting your ideas (and evidence) together. I enjoy reading and came across a fascinating book by Ken Bowers on secret combinations while at Deseret Book. Very interesting explanation on the background on secret combinations and where they are today. https://deseretbook.com/p/hiding-plain- ... -paperback

Great. Here is a little reduction in price:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing ... dition=new

Thanks.

[freedomforall]

[freedomforall]

Secret Combinations

An organization of people bound together by oaths to carry out the evil purposes of the group.

The father of lies stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations:2 Ne. 9:9;
I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness:2 Ne. 10:15;
Judgments of God did come upon these workers of secret combinations:Alma 37:30;
Gadianton did prove almost the entire destruction of the people of Nephi:Hel. 2:4–13;
Satan put it into the hearts of the people to form secret oaths and covenants:Hel. 6:21–31;
The Lord worketh not in secret combinations:Ether 8:19;
Nations that uphold secret combinations shall be destroyed:Ether 8:22–23;
They did reject all the words of the prophets, because of their secret society:Ether 11:22;
From the days of Cain, there was a secret combination:Moses 5:51;

[freedomforall]

What are the secret combinations of today?

http://www.millennialstar.org/what-are- ... -of-today/

[freedomforall]

30 Characteristics of Secret Combinations

http://www.ldsfreedomportal.net/combinations.html

[freedomforall]

The Righteous, Seduced by Secret Combinations

http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-ri ... mbinations

[lundbaek]

I believe that when President Benson said, in the October 1987 General Conference, that "A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world." he was warning us of a single conspiracy to alter the American government and make it over into a socialist dictatorship, to gain control over the governments, resources, and wealth of all nations. and to bring all nations under a single, centralized, socialist world government. "A secret combination" means to me a single conspiracy, although that conspiracy is, as I see it, operating in various theaters and in various ways to create strong regional governments like the planned North American Union, the European Union, an African Union is in the planning, as is a Mid-East and Far-East Union, the idea, as I understand, being to eventually federate all the regional unions into a single union. And if I understand Revelation 13:7 correctly, at some point the conspirators will have "power...over all kindreds, tongues, and nations for a period of time, apparently 3,5 years.

I think some of you may have more and better insights into this than I have, so please let's hear from you.

[freedomforall]

I believe that when President Benson said, in the October 1987 General Conference, that "A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world." he was warning us of a single conspiracy to alter the American government and make it over into a socialist dictatorship, to gain control over the governments, resources, and wealth of all nations. and to bring all nations under a single, centralized, socialist world government. "A secret combination" means to me a single conspiracy, although that conspiracy is, as I see it, operating in various theaters and in various ways to create strong regional governments like the planned North American Union, the European Union, an African Union is in the planning, as is a Mid-East and Far-East Union, the idea, as I understand, being to eventually federate all the regional unions into a single union. And if I understand Revelation 13:7 correctly, at some point the conspirators will have "power...over all kindreds, tongues, and nations for a period of time, apparently 3,5 years.

I think some of you may have more and better insights into this than I have, so please let's hear from you.

Is the NWO one of the referenced "beasts" in Revelation?

[kittycat51]

I can't believe in all these posts about secret combinations that NOBODY has mentioned the evil corporation Monsanto. These people in the name of GMO's are saying one thing "oh we are trying to feed the world in a more efficient way" but in reality they are killing people. One of the biggest backers of Monsanto is Bill Gates (along with George Soros). You know they are both eugenicist's and they are on the record many times saying that the world population needs to be decreased by 5 BILLION people! As of the end of 2015 36 countries have BANNED GMO's. Why is the U.S. holding on for dear life? Cough Bill, George oh and Hillary was supported by Monsanto.

Must read articles; the last includes a letter from a dying EPA scientist who is trying to expose things on Monsanto.

http://www.naturalnews.com/054899_eugen ... Gates.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/035105_bill_ ... enics.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-15-h ... osate.html

[lundbaek]

I don't think of the NWO as a government but rather as the program of world governance that Satan & Co. plan to impose on the world.

I think Monsanto is just one of a number of companies that are in cahoots with Satan & Co. My professional life was largely divided between 2 major companies, General Electric and Honeywell. Both of these companies have farmed out a lot of their manufacturing to other countries ostensibly to save on manufacturing costs, but also because buyers in other countries often insist that a certain % of manufacture of a product occur in their country or within the European Union. And I have considered the possibility that such companies are pressured to farm out work to other countries purposely to damage America' manufacturing industry and throw American out of work, although I cannot prove that; only that it is having that effect.

[freedomforall]

I don't think of the NWO as a government but rather as the program of world governance that Satan & Co. plan to impose on the world.

I think Monsanto is just one of a number of companies that are in cahoots with Satan & Co. My professional life was largely divided between 2 major companies, General Electric and Honeywell. Both of these companies have farmed out a lot of their manufacturing to other countries ostensibly to save on manufacturing costs, but also because buyers in other countries often insist that a certain % of manufacture of a product occur in their country or within the European Union. And I have considered the possibility that such companies are pressured to farm out work to other countries purposely to damage America' manufacturing industry and throw American out of work, although I cannot prove that; only that it is having that effect.

I feel sorrow and trepidation for my grand-kids. I'm nearly 70 and may not have to experience the depth of what calamities and destruction will bring as they. Probably for children as well all being in their forties. And I would imagine, Lundbaek, that you are just a little more seasoned than I. I could be wrong, though. Nevertheless, we are faced with some real trying times that even we may find horrific. With threats to freedom within our borders and the NWO predominately from without pushing in, we're in for an increasingly bumpy ride.

[Silver]

We're wrapping up the fun (bread and circuses) time period of the NWO. Next, our masters have strengthened their surveillance technology enough to give us the austerity era. They know everything about us. We can't hide what they want. Greece was a test tube. Sure, there were some protests there, but most Greeks just went along with the austerity imposed upon them. The world is awash in debt and the payday is here. The serfs will be made to pay either with their last shreds of assets, or their lives. Death or slavery, which do you prefer?

I'm buoyed up by the fact that at the end, when the times were most perilous, Mormon taught faith, hope and charity. Our leaders are teaching the same thing now. Faith, hope and charity are eternal principles and they will help us through the tough times we must experience to become a Zion-like people.

[lundbaek]

I wish I felt charity and forgiveness toward those who have purposely created the "awful situation" we are in now, and toward those who thru negligence and inexcusable ignorance or whatever helped facilitate our awful situation.

[freedomforall]

I wish I felt charity and forgiveness toward those who have purposely created the "awful situation" we are in now, and toward those who thru negligence and inexcusable ignorance or whatever helped facilitate our awful situation.

We as a nation are headed toward the very same end as all other corrupt and ungodly societies have. Moral decay, the subjugation of "WE THE PEOPLE", drugs, stealing, perversion, flinging God out of the lives of every race, color or creed in one way or another, wickedness and apathy.
Are we going to be like....oh, where in scripture is read the story of a prophet (I think) that struggles with the Lord because He, the Lord, wants to destroy a city, and the prophet asks if he can find 10 righteous people, would the Lord not destroy the city? As it turns out not one person could be found as being righteous. Have I got the story straight?
The point being, we may see people as doing good because they are not getting busted by the police. But God looks upon the heart, therefore, it is He that will determine when our demise as a country comes up. When His anger is kindled enough, all hell will break loose. So the question will be...how many people will be worthy enough to be able to flee to safety? How many people out of about 325,777,574 will attempt to flee to safety but their hearts will be far from God? 3%?

Will the Lord spare but a very small amount of people living in the US, which is the Promised Land? Or is it now A Cursed Land?

From 3 Nephi 9 we read:

12 And many great destructions have I caused to come upon this land, and upon this people, because of their wickedness and their abominations.
13 O all ye that are spared because ye were more righteous than they, will ye not now return unto me, and repent of your sins, and be converted, that I may heal you?

[freedomforall]

On another note, secret combinations include the people wearing badges, setting up first amendment zones and pointing guns at innocent people.
Here is a man that says Marines were on site, near Bundy ranch, ready to take on the BLM and cops that forgot their oath of office.

Oklahoma Militia of 50,000 Stands Beside Bundy Ranch Against the Feds

[lundbaek]

Oppen.n Mar 16, 2017 I wrote that "I don't think of the NWO as a government but rather as the program of world governance that Satan & Co. plan to impose on the world." Since then I have been wondering who (what person(s) or what group) will be in control of the world government and how will they exercise that control ? I occurs to me that the world will be divided up into regions, each with its own government. As I suggested earlier, the conspirators may create strong regional governments like the planned North American Union, the European Union, an African Union is in the planning, as is a Mid-East and Far-East Union, From reading the first several verses of Revelation 13 it seems to me that Satan will direct the "beast" mentioned in these verses, and the beast will direct or control those in charge of each of the regional governments. This is, of course, speculation on my part. And it seems that the PTB in both Russia and China have their own agenda for world conquest as well. I think the Anglo-American NWO globalist gang will prevail in that confliuct for a while and then be "wiped out", as some have expressed it. I think about these things because of my concern about how to cope and survive under the conditions that will exist as these things happen.

[Original_Intent]

It may be speculation on your part, but it's exactly what has been planned. 10 world regions, they already have the borders drawn.

http://www2.ministries-online.org/biometrics/rome.html

It does seem like some changes may have been made, if Mexico is to stay in the North American Union.